With Mike Vick still in line to be released from federal prison in July 2009, the great unknown is whether he’ll be reinstated to play NFL football at any point during the 2009 season.
There’s a vague sense that Vick will be welcomed back, and a recent endorsement from owner Arthur Blank won’t hurt in that regard.
Still, Vick has now pleaded guilty to three felonies arising from his six-year pattern of conduct, and he somehow escaped prosecution for killing dogs.
A report from the United States Department of Agriculture, recently posted at The Smoking Gun, illustrates the extent of Vick’s enterprise. Here are some of the things that caught our eye.
Concerned about being seen attending dog fights, Vick observed the action from an upstairs room at the shed in which the fights were staged.
In April 2007, only a couple of weeks before the dog yard was first discovered by authorities, Vick and codefendant Quanis Phillips killed a pit bull by slamming it to the ground several times.
Codefendant Purnell Peace shot and killed a dog at Vick’s direction after the dog jumped out of the ring during a fight, was put back in, and lost.
Vick purchased the property in remote Surry County, Virginia because he believed he could conceal the dogfighting operations from the public.
Most importantly, the report points out that Vick failed a polygraph exam administered on October 12, 2007 regarding whether he participated in killing dogs. He later recanted his statement that he was not involved in killing dogs, and he admitted that he had indeed taken part in the killing of dogs.
Given the timeline, this specific incident is very significant, in our view. By October 2007, Vick already had pleaded guilty to federal charges unrelated to the killing of dogs. But he still faced potential criminal charges in Virginia, including multiple counts of killing dogs.
And so with Vick unable to talk his way out of the situation, which could have resulted in an extended prison stay in Virginia, he received a legal miracle of sorts when prosecutor Gerald Poindexter failed to obtain an indictment on charges that Vick killed dogs.
Little attention has been given to this arguable miscarriage of justice, and we hope that someone with a voice louder than ours will delve deeply into what precisely happened between Poindexter and the grand jury that opted to disregard Vick’s admission that he intentionally and deliberately killed dogs.
Vick also told authorities that he know of no other NFL players or pro athletes engaged in dogfighting, and he apparently passed the polygraph test on this issue.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
they’re dogs. grand juries have more important things to consider.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
I dont understand, what is the problem, I mean, they are just stoopid animals, right?
-Clinton Portis, Whoopi Goldberg, the Vick family, Falcons fans, Va Tech fans, etc.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
The real miscarriage of justice is that Vick is in prison and Jared Allen and Adrian Peterson are walking free.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
vick is a terrible person and the NFL should ban him for life.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Poindexter is just another politician who likes to sniff athletes. The people of Virginia should do a recall election and fire him.
Vick is a sociopath - doubt it? Look up the characteristics on line.
He should not be allowed back into the NFL. Yet, with Roger Inconsistent Goodell having no back bone I think Vick might be suspended for the 2009 season if at all.
The NFL is rapidly becoming a joke with absolutely no integrity.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
“…the great unknown is whether he’ll be reinstated to play NFL football at any point during the 2009 season.”
if pacman can get reinstated 32 times, why not?
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Geez Florio, I am sorry the bad black man ran over your pink poodle
and then ate it.. but geez dude, get over it… As horrific as it
can be made to sound, they were dogs, not children. They were dogs not hookers or wives or girlfriends or bitches in a bar.
They were dogs not drunks staggering down the side of the road..
Where are the 493 column miles of rant and rave about guys that have
been CONVICTED of killing people, or Obstructed Justice with regards to the KILLING of PEOPLE.. Where is the indigantion, the rage, the horror that such people are not only allowed to play in the league
without sanction, or “sudden death” causes.
Lets start with Ray Lewis, what he pled to was vastly more serious than everything PacMan Jones was ever accused of, never mind convicted (which in fact was dammed little) It was vastly more serious than what Vick was convicted of. I think illegally killing dogs (that IIRC, belonged to Vick) is a lot more heavy duty than shanking some guy outside a bar, or at least lying about who did shank him.
Is Michael Vick a nice guy? hell no.. Would I want Michael Vick to marry my sister (secret smile, welll hmmm.. maybe… ) NO!@
If I had a choice to pardon one of Vick or Lewis?? Vick without a thought, Jones or Lewis, again Jones without a thought.. Vick or Jones, beats the hell out of me, they are both dickheads IMHO.
Note I have stayed away from Tank Johnson and the arsenel from hell and several others.
Can we please just put this all to rest and do what we want to do here
which is read about breaking news about FOOTBALL!
(and I dont mean the annual cons vs guards game)
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
I’d like to see your indignation, Florio, directed at Pacman Jones, who is responsible, either directly or indirectly, for permanent paralysis of a young man who had a bright future ahead of him. He has also assaulted a woman, threatened several people, taken illegal drugs, and been found guilty of extortion.
Not that Vick isn’t guilty, but at least the guy is doing time and owning up to his behavior. Which is more than we can say for Pacman, who keeps getting free passes from the NFL, despite being arrested six times since he was drafted.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
After such classics as:
Calling yourself Ron Mexico, and giving women Herpes, and hiding your pot in a water bottle and getting busted at the air port.
I actually thought Vick was an idiot, but this shows that he is a criminal, and calculated his moves like a criminal (sidenote, he must have miscalculated, and didnt factor the idiocy of the rest of his family). Taking the time to buy a house, in a remote area, for the purpose of creating a dog fighting enterprise (not for money, he was already rich, but for the entertainment, for the purpose of watching fights, training dogs, and clearly, for the enjoyment of watching animals suffer). He knew he was breaking the law. He hid from the cameras on “fight night”. He lied about all of it, over and over and over and over. Lying to the authorities, lying to the NFL, lying to himself for all we know, lol. Every step of the way, he thought he was getting away with it. Knowin full well that what he was doing was serious. If it was “just some dogs”, and all of the excuses, and playing it off as if it was no big deal, he sure went to a lot of trouble, and took a lot of measures, to make sure that he wasnt busted. That sounds like the actions of a guy, that knew full well it wasnt “just some dogs”, it was a big deal, etc
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
thank you Mike … YELL IT LOUDER …. please
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
And he WALKED out of Virginia State Court with “NO Additional Jail Time”.
Go figure!!
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
This guy’s a piece of garbage.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Many 0-16 seasons to the team that signs him, even if it is my team.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Vick is SCUM. I hope he rots in hell for what he did to those dogs.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Piece of S**t!!
What an absolute a**hole…..if he weren’t an NFL “QB” he would have been in jail a long time ago. He knew that what he was doing was wrong and did everything to conceal it. He’s not sorry for killing the dogs, only that he got caught…..
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
I hope that guy is repeatedly raped in prison. He deserves worse.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
I see no reason he should ever be allowed back to the NFL.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Vick is who we thought he was.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
McFlorio, is it really a miscarriage of justice? Vick lost at least $100 million (his current deal, endorsments, anf future money),he has served jail time, and is no longer a beloved figure. Most folks caught dog fighting dont receive any near a penalty this harsh. I do not condone what he did in any way, but saying it’s a miscarraige of justice is going a little too far. Vick has paid a stiff penalty for his crimes. Why don’t you go run for office there and prosecute him your self since you feel so strong about it.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
This is wrong on all fronts. It would be a great injustice to our society for him to be reinstated to the nfl. I for one will write the commissioner with my opinion.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
This is going to be flooded with comments about how Vick is a monster. But people need to think objectively on this one. Are dogs awesome? Yes. Could I ever watch a dogfight or kill a dog? Probably not, but I may kill a dog in defense if I had to. Do I think Vick should be in jail/suspended from the NFL for the rest of his life? No!
Come on people, cows and chickens are animals just like the dog, but most people could care less when that guy with the PETA flyer shows you how mistreated your 10 piece chicken nuggets were.
Anyway, as far as Vick being let back in the NFL, Let Him! The other players that are suspended, even Pacman, still make six figures+ while they are not playing football. Vick is doing PRISON TIME. I say when the government deems him ready to play in the NFL again, and when a team is willing to give him a chance, the NFL should open its doors to Vick after he has served his punishment.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Florio, I pretty much think you are an arrogant ass, but on this issue, I have to give you credit. This scumbag should NEVER be allowed back in the NFL. The Virginia voters should be all over Poindexter as to why he has dropped the ball on state charges as well.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Want to be forgiving but additional information about killing dogs whose only
crime was not being vicious enough doesn’t make that easy. Rot in hell, pal, at
12 cents/hour.
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November 25th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Time for you guys to move on from this story. If you have a beef with Poindexter - and you surely do - then try to leverage that beef without using Mike Vick to do so and retelling taudry aspects of his conviction documents to amplify your points.
Try to distinguish your targets a little more appropriately. Are you gong after Vick? Are you going after Poindexter? Or is this article just a hodge-podge of lets see what will stick and lets run with that….?
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November 25th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Could you stop reporting every story across the wire about Vick, Florio? Last I checked, he’s still in prison paying his debt to society. Your bias here is laughable. Why would other media outlets want to delve more deeply into this subject? It’s was hammered into submission for the better half of a year. Vick isn’t even in the league right now for crying out loud. And of course Blank endorsed the guy, as will most NFL players. The fact is, regardless of what PETA thinks of MV, he had the chance to roll over on a lot of guys in the league and didn’t. Whether or not he’ll be a factor is up for debate. But he’ll certainly be back, at which point we can hopefully start talking his potential impact on the field.
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