In the wake of an embarrassing session of sister-kissing in Cincinnati with the Bengals, which became even more humiliating when legitimate questions were raised regarding the question of whether anyone in the organization knows that a regular-season game is declared a tie if the score is knotted after 75 minutes of action, Eagles coach Andy Reid tried to get his team’s attention this week by going Holmgren on them.
Per Bob Ford of the Philadelphia Inquirer, Reid tore into the team during a Wednesday morning meeting.
“I guess he felt his normal mild-mannered self wasn’t working,” linebacker Omar Gaither said. “With Coach Reid, when the volume goes up and he starts turning red, you start paying a little more attention.
“It’s like a kid who isn’t getting good grades,” Gaither added. [Editor’s note: Or, as the case may be, a kid who’s doing drugs.] “He said, ‘You’re better than this. What’s going on?’ The volume went up and the words hit home.”
Reid told the players that jobs were on the line (including, presumably, his own).
Next came a players-only meeting. Said safety Brian Dawkins of the experience, “Hopefully, everything got through. We’ll see. Talking only goes so far.”
Ford thinks that talking could be supplemented by sending guys to the bench, especially since Reid didn’t rule out demotions when asked about the possibility.
If the Eagles lose at Baltimore to a team now led by one of Reid’s former assistants coaches on Sunday, it’s only gonna get worse.
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:12 pm
..or like a kid who is selling drugs, or a kid who is carrying a unlicensed gun in his car…
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:13 pm
WHAT took so LONG ??? It is about time that he showed some emotion as opposed to his press conferences. I hope that he let them know that last week was a TOTAL embarassment and its time that the man up!
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:16 pm
The Eagles win this game and Westbrook won’t play much. If the Eagles put up 30 points and loose, Andy should fire Jim Johnson on the spot.
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:22 pm
About time…but it may be a little too late. Hopefully, jobs on the line…mean job openings in ‘09.
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:22 pm
[Editor’s note: Or, as the case may be, a kid who’s doing drugs.]
Thats low.
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:22 pm
“If the Eagles lose at Baltimore”
When they lose to Baltimore.
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Put up 30 points??? Against Baltimore??? They managed all of 13 against Cincy!
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:24 pm
““It’s like a kid who isn’t getting good grades,” Gaither added. [Editor’s note: Or, as the case may be, a kid who’s doing drugs.]”
Are you trying to tell us something about Florio Jr.?
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Only two weeks too late Andy.
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:27 pm
a little late for all of this now… no way eagles make the playoffs this year. Neither the Redskins or Cowboys will let that happen.
THEY COULDN’T BEAT the BENGALS!
This will just add to the story of Andy Reids meltdown.
It’s over. done. pack it up. seriously.
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:29 pm
amen dawkphan
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Florio,
Love your blog, but you are better than that “Or, as the case may be, a kid who’s doing drugs” comment.
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:44 pm
I’m a life long Redskins fan…I’ve despised Any Reid over the years only because he, for the most part, puts up good physical teams. Nothing but respect for the guy…you don’t want him? Someone else will…same goes for Jimmie Johnson. There’s something to be said (and Dan Snyder needs to learn this as well) for sticking with a good coach through losing. Losing happens…it comes and goes…you try to limit the amount of time it comes your way. But it’s going to at some point. Winning? Ride it out baby!! Hail!
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:44 pm
He can’t even get the meetings in time when they need it, let alone the plays. This should have happened last week, when they had a chance.
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:45 pm
…or like a kid sticking pills up his ass to sneak them into prison.
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:53 pm
5 bucks says as soon as fatboy was finished, he looked over at the captains and said “time’s yours…”
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November 21st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
I am betting on Baltimore. Harbaugh has detailed information on the Eagles playbook, and its not like they have changed that thing in the past 4 years.
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November 21st, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Too little, too late, Andy.
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November 21st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Geez….you’de think Mickey D’s scrapped the McRib or something…
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November 21st, 2008 at 3:16 pm
what the hell is smush talking about he made NO sense whatsoever
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November 21st, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Real classy Mike….make fun of the disease of addiction.
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November 21st, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Uh, this is about the 20th “players only” meeting of the season.
No one listens. There is no leadership. Dawkins is no longer playing at a level that commands the respect of the younger players, and McNabb is a clown. The locker room is full of 30+ year olds, guys for whom the game of football is a job. This is NOT a team full of young players trying to gel. C’mon. And why would they be motivated? Playoffs are out, and they see a guy in the locker room who got screwed on cash (Sheppard) and has been held hostage by the team.
The GM is to blame for the ill-will and lack of team cohesion. Oh, but Andy Reid is the GM too, so can a player ignore the fact that his coach is also the guy who is going to hammer then when their contract is up?
Reid has been here a decade. Over that span - and I have watched every game as a passionate fan - he has won TWO games he was not supposed to win. Two. 1+1. Both against Dallas, one of which came with Garcia at the helm.
Face it, the MO of the Eagles front office - headed by Reid - has been to beat down “the help” and keep the players in line. Outspoken or talented guys were silenced or released (Trotter, Owens, etc), in favor of C+ guys like Jason Avant who will do as they are told and sign for a cheap price and many years.
Reid is also incapable of taking a hard line. The last player he punished was George Hegeman back in 1998. No one is ever demoted or has a fire lit under them (See Akers, David). All the problems I saw on Day 1 of his administration are still problems a decade later, nothing ever gets fixed.
And need more proof? This is a guy who, after his sons were jailed for being gun-toting drug dealers, was slammed by the judge for having prescription drugs all over the house after the kids were released back to his care.
He’s clueless. He does not notice important details. He is careless. He throws up his hands and gives up when the going gets tough. He has no answers.
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November 21st, 2008 at 3:31 pm
smush, you and i are both eagle fans but in my book the defense is playing well enough to be 8-2 while i think the offense has played about 3-7 and special teams at 5-5. The d has been left on the field way too long and in the losses the offense didn’t do much. see how many of the points scored by the offense were set up by the d and how many points the d set up were left on the table by andy’s horrible play selection and everyone’s terrible execution. just my opinion….
while i hope they win on sunday, if they play the way they played the past three weeks they will have their heads handed to them.
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November 21st, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Dustin: “couldn’t beat Cincy” is a bad argument. Two words for the Cowgirls and Injuns: Saint Louis.
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November 21st, 2008 at 5:49 pm
If Schottenheimer became the OC the fans would be screaming that all we do is run and never pass on 3rd and 4….
I understand the logic of “they only put up 13 against Cincy”. However they did put up plus 30 on Dallas and the Giants. The Giants have a pretty good defense too right. Seasons ebb and flow. Sometimes you end up loosing or tying a crap team and the next week you blow out a great team… (not calling Baltimore great or saying it will be a blowout). My prediction Eagles 27 - Ravens 13.
The defense lost the Dallas and Giants game - special teams was not much of a help. I also blame defense for the Bears game. In some of these games the offense had a couple of bad plays - usually on short yardage but it shouldn’t even have gotten to that point. I truly believe that the GM is the biggest culprit. The Eagles defense is very overrated. They cannot stop the run when they need to and it has been this way for years.
I do hear a lot of what you guys are saying. I also hear the people up in the 200 (formerly 700)level talking. In my opinion people throw way too much blame at Donovan and not enough at Reid/Banner.
Get a GM. Let the GM decide what to do with the coaches and coordinators and players.
I thought that Schobel (sp?) should have been cut after the Bears game where he missed that block and Buck did not get the yard and TD). Sometimes you gotta send a message - so yes, IF the Eagles put up 30 and loose - Jimmy should be fired as a message (Big IF, I know).
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