The prevailing reaction in most NFL circles in the wake of Thursday’s admission by Browns G.M. Phil Savage that he sent an e-mail that said “f–k you” to a fan (technically, it was “f@#* you”) is shock.
As a league source with knowledge of Savage’s ways told us on Thursday morning, such language is very much out of character.
Said another source on Friday morning, “Shock would be an understatement. I don’t know what to say. I really can’t believe it.”
Of all NFL General Managers, Savage would likely be regarded as far and away the least likely to have snapped in this manner. He’s a devout Christian (or, at a minimum, he wears it on his sleeve for the world to see, which frankly conflicts with our understanding of Matthew 6:5-7).
Indeed, we’re told that, every year at the Senior Bowl, Savage organizes a revival-type meeting for the coaches and scouts in attendance. Per one source, the event has left some NFL types feeling uncomfortable.
And who can forget (actually, we had) Savage’s open call for Christian players?
“We want Christian players who can play football well,” Savage said in 2006. (And that might have been news to owner Randy Lerner, who is Jewish.)
Bottom line? Regardless of whether and to what extent Savage’s professed views are genuine, it was stoopid for him to allow a disgruntled fan to get under his skin.
That said, Savage’s blunder has provided useful instruction for folks in key positions with other franchises. “Every time something happens in Cleveland,” a source told us on Thursday, “I learn something from it.”
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:00 am
You’re saying that it’s un-Christian to be a devout Christian? I guess he “wore it on his sleeve” so much that you had never heard anything about it.
Thankfully, your beliefs give you more freedom to be sanctimonious.
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:03 am
Devout Christian = Goes to church on Sundays and is a hypocrite the other 6 days.
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:03 am
please don’t make it sound like a Christian man has to be a perfect man. EVERYONE makes mistakes, everyone. the difference here is that he acknowledged it & apologized for it. florio, you even said that you were shocked that he admitted it. most people would either deny it, blame someone else, or say that there was nothing wrong for what they did. that is one of the many things that makes his faith real in his life. Matthew 6:1-7 says nothing about not “wearing your faith on your sleeve”, it says that you shouldn’t do it if your motivation is to be seen by others. if your motivation is love for other people than there is nothing wrong with being open about your faith. Jesus, the originator of the Christian faith did nothing but wear his beliefs on his sleeve & tell everyone he came in contact with about them. savage isn’t perfect, he’s just blameless because he takes responsibility for his mistakes.
by the way, that doesn’t make him a good GM.
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:07 am
That’s the consensus feeling around Cleveland as well; mostly the reason why no one really believed the kid that sent the original email, and even more of a reason why many thought it was an intern or someone of the like.
We wonder if he’s cracking under the pressure…
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:10 am
Well I guess Jay Fiedler and Ahmad Brooks are off their radar.
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:12 am
Looks like Savage is starting to buckle under that pressure. I don’t blame him, you got a bisexual quarterback starting, a wide receiver that can only catch a cold, a tight end/soldier that is a complete jackass and a coach that can’t win. A man can only take losing to Pittsburgh for so long before they snap. Hey at least here in Pittsburgh our coaches only email porn back and forth to each us.
Buck up Browns fans there is always next decade!!!
GO STEELERS!!!
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:14 am
A christian isn’t Christ. He’s human. Florio, don’t you claim to be catholic (who are suppose to be christian) or are you like Joe Biden CINO (catholic in name only)? I’m not sure how your understanding of Matt 6:5-7 conflicts with him wearing it on his sleeve. It was about how they prayed in vain repitition wanting reward right away and not grace. I like how you rip everyone who professes to be a christian from Tony Dungy to Kurt Warner. It’s funny how you try to pull out a bible verse rip on a christian. Try reading a little further in the book of Matthew 7 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?” CINO
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:15 am
Wow Christians curse sometimes? What a revelation…
Here’s another good bible verse:
John 8:7 (New International Version)
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.”
If Christians were all perfect, would they need a someone to save them from their sins?
That having been said, Savage still f@#*ed up. But, he has since apologized, and, hopefully, he won’t do it again.
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:18 am
Florio, I am hearing that this isn’t the first time Savage has done this. Word is he often responds harshly to fans or reports or disagree with a mediocre management skills. I am hearing, more importantly, that the fact the Browns are letting this get out is a clear cut sign that they plan on heavily pursuing Bill Cowher this winter and are fully prepared to offer him full control to come to Cleveland. If the next step is some form of verbal punishment and a promise to look into the matter more after the season you know the writing is on the wall. Good Luck Coach Chin you will need it.
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:21 am
So, what the f@#* did he say, anyhow?
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:22 am
Wow. Christians are human too. Imagine that.
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:22 am
Everytime I go to Cleveland I always ask, “Where is the handle for this shithole”?
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:24 am
ForTheGlory says:
November 21st, 2008 at 9:03 am
please don’t make it sound like a Christian man has to be a perfect man. EVERYONE makes mistakes, everyone. the difference here is that he acknowledged it & apologized for it. florio, you even said that you were shocked that he admitted it. most people would either deny it, blame someone else, or say that there was nothing wrong for what they did. that is one of the many things that makes his faith real in his life. Matthew 6:1-7 says nothing about not “wearing your faith on your sleeve”, it says that you shouldn’t do it if your motivation is to be seen by others. if your motivation is love for other people than there is nothing wrong with being open about your faith. Jesus, the originator of the Christian faith did nothing but wear his beliefs on his sleeve & tell everyone he came in contact with about them. savage isn’t perfect, he’s just blameless because he takes responsibility for his mistakes.
–AMEN–
by the way, that doesn’t make him a good GM.
–HALLELUJAH–
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:31 am
Hopefully this will give the Browns enough reason to fire him and make way for Bill Cowher, who will want full personnel control. I say “Bring in the chin!”
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:40 am
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“We want Christian players who can play football well,” Savage said in 2006. (And that might have been news to owner Randy Lerner, who is Jewish.)
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I wonder how many Jewish players actually are in the league…
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:41 am
Hypocritical christians … what a concept.
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:48 am
sounds like front office implosion, high expectations not met by incompetent coach/staff/owner/medical team/ hell there is enough blame to go around. begs the question, was john collins right?
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:49 am
hey cleveland sucks, must of been hell in the 80s when marty lost one game in 5 years to pissburgh….
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:54 am
“We want Christian players who can play football well”
Sorry Jay Fiedler . . .
Oooo, I just thought of something. Remember that story Florio did over the summer about a Muslim player who was supposedly blackballed because his dad was one of the 9/11 terrorists? I think this might bring it back to life!
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November 21st, 2008 at 9:59 am
Echoing the sentiments of: ForTheGlory , cheeseburger, clevefan1, the Matthew reference isn’t the correct context. More appropriate would be James 1:49B “But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger for the anger of man does not achieve the righteousness of God.” He let his sin get the better or him as Paul and all true Christians battle against.
Being a Christian is walking with Christ and as your heart continues to be regenerated you are becoming more sanctified = more Christlike.
As a Christian the struggle is outlined in Romans 7:15B “for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate.” This is the central theme of Rom 7: 14-25.
We all stumble but we continue in our walk seeking forgiveness along the way and living with the results of our sin. Paul called himself the foremost and worst of all sinners. For those that have learned through poor example that Christians are perfect, you’ve been lied to. I hope that Mr Savage has made sought the proper forgiveness. Receiving it doesn’t mean the ramifications will necessarily go away, but seeking it will preserve his witness. I pray that this will be seen. Thank you for this website. It’s been a source of enjoyment for me since its beginning.
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November 21st, 2008 at 10:01 am
You probably know more about Phil Savage than I’ll ever know, but it seems like you’re criticizing him for openly being a Christian. Matthew 5:6-7 is talking about attitude and motives. It’s not saying to hide your Christianity in a closet, it’s saying that you should not put on a spiritual show. You shouldn’t be religious just to impress people. Often, though, God is the only one who can tell the difference. Again, you probably know a lot more about Phil Savage than I do, but it seems to me like you’re playing God and judging his heart and motives, which goes against my understanding of Matthew 7:1-2 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.” And Romans 2:1 “You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.” It’s not up to you to question if Phil Savages professed views are genuine or not. He made a stupid mistake. That doesn’t mean his beliefs are not genuine. We all make mistakes. We all snap and do stupid things. We’re all stupid and broken. That’s why we need a savior in the first place.
One more thing: I want to reemphasize that we are not told to hide our Christianity. Matthew 5:13-16 says: “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men. You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.” In other words, don’t hide it. Let it show! But, let it show out of humbleness towards God and not to impress other people.
Thanks for letting me have a say. I love your website (when you talk about football).
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November 21st, 2008 at 10:09 am
I’d have to say that it’s impossible not to be a hypocritical Christian. I’m a Christian - but I am FAR from perfect… I guess I’m a hypocrite then too. Thank God for the blood of Jesus!
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November 21st, 2008 at 10:12 am
Wow Florio - do you need a blood transfusion everytime you vote?
You are totally in the tank for the Democratic Party.
And now, obviously a bias against religious beliefs.
Non of us are perfect. Savage makes mistakes, and they aren’t limited to his decision making as a GM. But he is human.
He is under a lot of pressure, and sent the email we all would have thought of sending (but hopefully would have held off on hitting send).
He has made a mistake, acknowleged it - time to move on.
Next question….
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November 21st, 2008 at 10:15 am
If god actually existed, this might be relevant.
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November 21st, 2008 at 10:16 am
Not many Jewish players in the NFL that Savage probably insulted with his comment. The most prominent Jew is Olshansky. The list of others with some some Jewish lineage:
Lennie Friedman, a nine-year veteran offensive lineman for the Cleveland Browns.
David Binn, a long snapper for the San Diego Chargers. Last season Binn was selected for the Pro Bowl. Binn’s father is Jewish and his mother is not.
Igor Olshansky, a defensive end for the Chargers. Olshansky went to Jewish day school and married his Jewish school sweetheart. He is the first Russian-born player in the NFL.
Sage Rosenfels, a backup quarterback for the Houston Texans. Rosenfels has a Jewish father and a non-Jewish mother.
Mike Seidman, a tight end for the Indianapolis Colts.
Mike Rosenthal, an offensive tackle for the Miami Dolphins.
Josh Miller, a punter. After being cut by the New England Patriots in August, he was signed by the Tennessee Titans on Sept. 22. He often appears at Jewish community events.
Antonio Garay, a defensive tackle for the Chicago Bears. His mother is Jewish.
The one rookie is Adam Podlesh, punter for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Podlesh has played in every game this season.
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