There was a somewhat bizarre item on ESPN.com this morning, which gave credence to a recent non-ESPN report suggesting that the NFL already has determined that the Raiders violated league rules in connection with an accusation by owner Al Davis that the Patriots tampered with receiver Randy Moss in 2007. The initial non-ESPN report indicated that the league already has determined that the claim of tampering made by Davis was and is false.
Since then, however, the ESPN.com story has been revised to reflect what we understand (and what we reported) to be the true state of affairs. Thus, the current report from Chris Mortensen (who also was the subject of verbal stink bombs from Davis last week) is that the league has advised the Raiders that, if they have evidence of tampering, they should produce it.
And Mort was clear in his refutation of the report from Tuesday that we exposed as premature at best, downright false at worst: “An NFL source firmly denied to ESPN that the Raiders were threatened with sanctions in the letter.” (Indeed, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello has said as to the report of correspondence threatening sanctions against the team, “No such letter was sent.”)
The new version of the ESPN.com item concludes with this Editor’s note: “In an Oct. 9 story on ESPN television and ESPN.com, information that indicated ESPN had confirmed facts regarding possible sanctions in a letter from the NFL to the Oakland Raiders was incorrectly characterized due to internal editing. The report should have indicated that ESPN confirmed the existence of a letter asking the Raiders to provide evidence of tampering.”
Wow. It’s a good thing that the folks who posted on Tuesday the initial report of certain sanctions for the Raiders don’t deal in reckless rumor or fiction. And we sure hope they didn’t trumpet to the world that the erroneous ESPN.com story affirms their mission and commitment.
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October 9th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
This is why the Patriots dont let him or Sal Palontonio into Gillette Stadium.
I wish i could be 100% wrong at my job and not get fired.
Who’s running ESPN these days, Merrill Hodge?
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October 9th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Mike baby, a certain Steelers QB is still alive. More people read your material than Morts.. remember when you were a fledgeling yourself before you got MDS.
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October 9th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
“Who’s running ESPN these days, Merrill Hodge?”
No, but his hairpiece is.
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October 9th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Quote..
The new version of the ESPN.com item concludes with this Editor’s note: “In an Oct. 9 story on ESPN television and ESPN.com, information that indicated ESPN had confirmed facts regarding possible sanctions in a letter from the NFL to the Oakland Raiders was incorrectly characterized due to internal editing. The report should have indicated that ESPN confirmed the existence of a letter asking the Raiders to provide evidence of tampering.”
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was incorrectly characterized due to internal editing - my big fat lumpy a$$
I bet there was no editing, but the rush to see who gets it out first.
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October 9th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
I doubt this will get posted, but i hope you read it.
I am an AVID follower of this site and I check multiple times a day and read pretty much everything posted. During the whole Kiffin/Davis brouhaha and the ensuing firing and press conference, I sensed some inconsistencies in your views on things and I was pleasantly surprised when you admitted that that may have been influenced by Lombardi, etc. Since then I’ve checked out his work, and I’ve definitely noticed that he’s trying to compete with you. He wants to show you up. He does not like you, Florio.
But I’ll say this: that site does not come close to satisfying my hunger for the NFL. It’s not witty enough, ballsy enough, or entertaining enough. I’m gonna follow this Florio/Lombardi feud closely and all the way I’m cheering: KICK HIS ASS FLORIO!!
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October 9th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
and people wonder what Al is talking about when he says the media has it in for the Raiders.
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October 9th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
c’mon, this ESPN/ ABC…..not exactly the best of friends with Al Davis or Amy Trask. ESPN thinks the whole world wants to watch the yankees play the red sox, and the Pats play the Skins….this is the same ESPN who was all excited about the jets getting McFadden, and then when the raiders did, they said McFadden will not make it in the NFL..
ESPN is full of raiders haters, and has an east coast bias, plain and simple.
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October 9th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
In his response to Goodell, Al Davis also mourned the passing of Terry Bradshaw.
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October 9th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
This is nothing new. but I guess raiders fans “can’t see the forest through their own sleaze” Anybody who at least pays a passing attention can see media bias against oakland. but so what…. it won’t change anything.
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October 9th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Rog probly just doesnt want to waste any $ in court.
besides, he knows al is just that crazy guy in the coffin under alameda county coliseum…
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October 9th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
“Wow. It’s a good thing that the folks who posted on Tuesday the initial report of certain sanctions for the Raiders don’t deal in reckless rumor or fiction. And we sure hope they didn’t trumpet to the world that the erroneous ESPN.com story affirms their mission and commitment.”
I love it! Those “folks” still haven’t even updated their report and block my comments asking them to do so. They block comments asking for retractions on any erroneous report.
Mike & Co., thank you guys so much for having the guts to admit when you mess up and allowing readers to actually disagree with your viewpoints.
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October 9th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
The commish does not care to go to court and waste money going after
Al.
What and give him more pub on the alleged conspiricy against the raiders?
They are a joke and nothing will change until al is six feet under.
As a Raider fan I won’t spend one more dime of my money supporting
his Bull@#$%!
Just Go Away Baby
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October 9th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Like 99% of all reports about the raiders, rumor mongering….don’t surprise me anymore…I don’t even watch espn anymore too many raider haters on their…
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October 9th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
ragin..
You couldn’t be more right.
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October 9th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Coach Kevlar, PFT blocks critical comments too. One would be naive to think otherwise.
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October 9th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
While I’m at it, it’s funny how since Al’s press conference, several here have criticized Florio’s stance on the subject and accused him of everything from getting paid to being Al’s lover. Yet, most of these comments do nothing to address the validity of the claims Davis made. Most offer up some “hilarious” cryptkeeper and/or Mr. Burns comparison and heaps of praise for Kiffin and his quest for $3.5 million before ending with a variation of “…the Raiders will never be good again until Al is dead…”
Then again, I doubt those people watched anything beyond the 3-minute ESPN special-edit clip followed by Kiffin’s 8+ minute response exclusively on Sportscenter…
.I am a Raiders fan and when I first began to visit this site, I figured I would have to look elsewhere when it came to objectivity regarding the team. I don’t want to read articles by blatant supporters either, just facts.Or some rumors and opinions that aren’t passed off as fact.
Florio deserves credit for acknowledging that Davis may not be the only one to blame in this mess after considering the claims’ and the evidence clearly presented. He has done this despite the overwhelming opinion that he is foolish and despite most media outlets refusing to accept that their opinions of both men might have been a bit off.
Most places (and people) just ignore everything Al said except for the money and then talk about Kiffin becoming the next Shanahan/Gruden/Lombardi. Or Davis is dismissed as a crazy, old liar who faked his letter to Lane and Kiffin is a “class individual” for not responding to the claims–even though he has had no problem airing out dirty laundry in the press and as a source for the past year.
It’s nice to read something that doesn’t quote Sapp or reference Shanahan as proof that Al Davis’ is lying and Kiffin was a great coach that was not acting in his best interest. Just because he’s not slamming the Raiders and Davis in this case does not make Florio a puppet for Al. It just shows he has the ability to voice his own opinion, the guts to stand by it and the balls to publicly admit his mistakes.
Other places block comments that disagree or ask that an incorrect article be retracted or amended with a follow-up. They also won’t allow comments that question the motives of the writers and their feelings towards certain individuals or teams. PFT dishes it to anyone when it is justified, but has enough integrity to give credit when it is needed and present all sides of the equation.
I better shut up now, before I’m accused of being Florio’s lover or someone in the Raiders front office…
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October 10th, 2008 at 1:51 am
ESPN = Fox news…
Constant nonsence speaking in absolutes…
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October 10th, 2008 at 1:55 am
Coach Kevlar has rat teeth says:
“While I’m at it, it’s funny how since Al’s press conference, several here have criticized Florio’s stance on the subject and accused him of everything from getting paid to being Al’s lover. Yet, most of these comments do nothing to address the validity of the claims Davis made.”
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In case you missed it in the first article from October 1st here, titled “Belichick Denies Tampering With Moss”
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/10/01/belichick-denies-tampering-with-moss/comment-page-3/#comments
I provided a link to a PFT article from April of 2007 that talks about how the Raiders were not only looking to trade Moss, but had given Moss permission to talk to other teams to see if he could work out a trade.
http://archive.profootballtalk.com/4-23-07through4-30-07.htm
If that’s not enough, I’m sure if you go through archives from that time period of Oakland area newspapers and other football sites, you will surely find other similar stories. But if that’s not enough evidence to convince you that tampering most likely did not occur, then I guess we can wait for Al to present his evidence at his next presser.
I realize that this is just one of Davis’ claims, but I did feel it was worth noting that Al seems to be mis-remembering the events on this subject.
The other claims - they’re open for debate. But Davis’ case was weakened when he brought up allegations of tampering.
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October 10th, 2008 at 2:50 am
It is what it is, and whatever it takes for you to bash the Raiders…
Enjoy…Raiders don’t care.
Let the haters hate…
There is no bandwagon like the Pats have, and no begging
of hope like the Iggles and most other teams have…
We’ve won and lost for many years…But we’ve been there.
One way or another…Big CRAZY Al…He’s why we love and question
the RAAAIDUHHHS..
It’s RAIDER NATION or nothing..
No other sports. No other teams…PERIOD.
RAIDER NATION..ONLY & ALWAYS..FOR GOOD AND BAD..
GFY TO ALL HATERS..
Preach your hate…We’ve no feelings…
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October 10th, 2008 at 3:06 am
ESPN and Mort can never say anything good ’bout the Raiduhs.
Even in the last Bowl we were in they had an ax to grind…
ESPN later said “why doesn’t Al respond to Kiffin’s comments?”…
Then when Al took the offensive they said “He should keep quiet.”
ESPN is the sports version of Entertainment Tonight…
Guess they should just tell us more about Favre…
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October 10th, 2008 at 7:05 am
BSPN at it’s finest, again. What a joke they’ve become.
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October 10th, 2008 at 11:14 am
BSPN…gotta love that…well if Kiffin does not get a job as a waterboy again at USC…you know BSPN will hire him along with all of the other Raider Haters they have….lets face it, fact is they all hate the Raiders because the Raiders back in the day kicked the crap out of all of those commentators on the field….As Al put it “We’ll be back, we’ll be back!” In the meantime just be competitive!
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October 10th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
If Mort (the professional liar) is wrong and the league is really about to sanction the Raiders..does he get down graded to plain ole “liar” or will he be an “amateur liar”?
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October 11th, 2008 at 8:09 am
antdogg24 says:
October 10th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
If Mort (the professional liar) is wrong and the league is really about to sanction the Raiders..does he get down graded to plain ole “liar” or will he be an “amateur liar”?
He DID lie, antdogg24, where have you been?
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October 13th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
HOLY COW! you mean sports news reporters jump to conclusions and report stories that are erroneous and untruthful just to try and get a scoop?! I never would have guessed with all the weeks of reporting that since preseason Lane Kiffin would be fired on Monday.
that was my sarcasm. thank you.
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