As expected, the Tennessee Titans have re-signed quarterback Chris Simms, only two days after cutting him. In so doing, coach Jeff Fisher basically admitted to violating the rules against having verbal agreements with players.
“Chris totally understood the move, and we assured him we’d get him back under contract and we did,” coach Jeff Fisher said.
Remarked a league insider in response, “Holy shit.”
Then the league insider was a bit more specific (but far less entertaining): “I’m not sure the league office is going to look very favorably upon that transaction and quote. It sure looks and sounds like a pre-existing agreement to manipulate the roster.”
The Titans dumped Simms on Saturday so that they could sign an extra punter, in the event that Criag Hentrich couldn’t play.
The reaction in some circles was to assume that the Titans and Simms had a wink-nod-belch-fart agreement in place with Simms, with Simms being told he’d be re-signed, but with neither Simms nor the Titans ever admitting to it.
And, amazingly, Fisher has essentially admitted to entering into a verbal understanding with Simms that he’d be brought back.
Complicating matters is that Fisher is the Co-Chair of the Competition Committee, and thus in our view he should be avoiding not only rules violations but any conduct that might appear to constitute a violation.
In the end, the Titans’ message to Simms was in line with our speculation from Saturday night: “Look, Chris, you’re already going to be paid for the week because you were on the team as of close of business on Tuesday. And you were going to be the third quarterback on Sunday. So we’re just going to slide you off the roster today, and we’ll bring you back next week.”
As we understand the rules, that’s simply not permitted. It now remains to be seen whether the league will do anything about it.
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
1. Dude could not be that stupid.
2. If is a rule, it’s a dumb one. At my job site, IT contractors are let go, w/the understanding that they could come back in a week or two when a new contract is signed. The companies that do that take a risk that said employee(s) will jump for a better offer. Simms could have done the same.
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Kill yourself.You always go on and on about rules violations that simply do not exist.I know that a simple caveat added to the conversation between coach and quaterback such as “If we decide to sign a qb again this season,it will be you.” Would nullify any possible rules violation.
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Yo, Simms, you got a hall pass, son?
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
I know this is a violation of the rules in the grand scheme of things. Simms did have an opportunity to sign with any other team while not on the Titans roster. Looks to me like no other team needed or wanted his services. I like Simms and hope he does well. But until more starters start dropping like flies Simms will probably still be the 3rd option.
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Not that big a deal…..what was Simms gonna do, say no?
What’ the league going to do to em?
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
The Titans are tainted and need a * next to their win column this season. Where’s the congress? Where’s the docked draft pick? Most of all, where are the haters who can’t get over the fact that all teams don’t play by the rules.
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
florio … this is much ado about nothing …. happens all the time … releases followed by a resigning … no big deal … and as poster #1 said, Simms was free to move on if he so desired ….
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Nick…”Kill yourself”?!
Decaf baby…
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
5-0*
Not that there’s anything wrong with that…
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
And if it were the Patriots all you excuse makers would be yelling holy hell!
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
So if you’re gonna claim that rules were broken, don’t you think you you should - you know - find out what the rules actually are?
It would make sense that “verbal agreements are null and void” but it doesn’t make sense to try and suggest that a team can’t declare their intentions in a situation like this. As long as both sides realize that the team can’t be held to the verbal agreement if they change their mind, and that the player isn’t required to re-sign with the team if he changes HIS mind, I don’t see how this would be a violation of any rule.
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
If there was no money changing hands, no issue then. All they had to say was “sorry, we have to cut you to make room for a punter. If you are still a free agent next week we will sign you back.” That is not against the rules. The only thing the league can do is put in a two-week limit to resigning players they cut. Otherwise, more power to the Titans for playing by the rules that exist, and to Fisher for not being afraid to say it.
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
I love all of you people whining about how its a minor rule. Please never have children, all we need are a bunch of little brats running around ‘well, its just a tiny rule, its okay to break it’. Rules are rules, especially in a freakin billion dollar G A M E. If you don’t want to follow the rules either 1) don’t take part in the league that has accepted those rules or 2) attempt to get the rule changed/removed. But follow the rules and enforce the rules that are on the books properly.
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Patriots suck!
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Yeah, that verbal agreement would be ‘none and void’.
Signed,
Emmitt Smiff
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October 6th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Lock ‘em up.
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October 6th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
I don’t see a problem with voicing an intention - we want to re-sign you next week. The only way I see there being a problem is if another team approached Simms and he rebuffed them saying he already had an agreement in place. Short of that then, that is within his prerogative. If he wants to rejoin the Titans, and is willing wait for their offer while ignoring others, he does so at his own peril.
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October 6th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Florio,
For what its worth I appreciate you mentioning articles like this. It gives me a window into the game within the game and I and many other readers enjoy it.
Does it justify me going to the site a thousand times a day? My boss would say no, that is of course if I had a job…Whatever I love this site and enjoy the fact that you are 100% thorough in your analysis and opinions.
I imagine situations like this occur all the time. Teams wouldn’t do this with players at the top of their roster so it does not usually come into play. But this weekend Simms was a free agent and if Garcia and Griese got hurt chasing some blondes (Raymond the male Masseuse and a golden reiriever respectively) and happened to slip on a Mcdonalds bag, then Tampa could have signed him. Fisher acknowledged as much, to me there is no harm and no foul.
For the record a similar scenario unfolded a few years ago in the NBA. Carlos Boozer had a wink/nudge verbal in place with the Cavaliers and he ended up bailing on it to sign with the Utah Jazz.
Fisher probably could have explained it a touch better, because we all knew what he meant, but its not quite what he said; which could leave room for interpretation.
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October 6th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
@Nideak - I’m all for following the rules, but when Mr. Florio throws out a disclaimer like “As we understand the rules”, he obviously doesn’t know what the rule actually is.
Is it “thou shalt not verbally express your future intentions when releasing a player” or is it “do not engage in verbal agreements because they are unenforceable.” I suspect it’s something along the lines of the latter - but then he wouldn’t have anything to write about the issue.
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October 6th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Bellicheat is pissed….that he didn’t think of it first.
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October 6th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
I don’t understand how the rule could be such that this would be a violation of it. That’s just a terrible rule then. If the team is planning on just making a temporary move (unless they’re actually planning on carrying two freaking putners all season) because roster sizes are way too small, I don’t see why the team can’t give the player a heads up as to their intentions. They are cutting a person from their team, essentially firing him and making him unemployed. If they intend to bring him back as soon as they can, why not tell him. For one thing, this way he doesn’t spend the weekend pissed off because he got cut with no real explanation. If they didn’t tell players this, the player may not want to come back if he was too offended by being cut for a punter. It just seems they’re forgetting that these are human beings interacting with each other.
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October 6th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Hey Mr. Mike,
Those “Wink-Nod-Belch-Fart Agreements”
always come back to bite ya!
LOL
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October 6th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Find me the rule. It makes no sense for this to be against the rules.
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October 6th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
“Minor rule”? Huh? Conspiring to circumvent roster limits is “minor” now? Just like tampering is “minor,” I guess, *sigh*.
Why is everyone always so blase about cheating that involves who actually ends up on your roster? That stuff’s huge…big enough to help win Denver some Superbowls, in fact.
If Simms instructed his agent not to pursue other opportunities because he’d been promised his job back in a couple of days, that’s a big deal.
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October 6th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Even if he violated the rules, the league will simply look the other way… just like they did last season when Fisher & Dungy had an agreement to make sure the Titans made the playoffs!
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