While yours truly was spending most of the afternoon and into the early evening taking in the annual Marshall-West Virginia game in Morgantown, MDS was holding down the PFT fort.
He posted among other things an item regarding the $15,000 fine imposed on Saints coach Sean Payton for criticizing game officials who missed the fact that Broncos linebacker Jamie Winborn lined up offside during a key third-and-one play at the end of New Orleans’ loss at Denver.
On Monday, Payton reportedly called the no-call a “hard pill” to swallow and that he would be raising the matter with NFL officiating guru Mike Pereira.
The decision meshes with Commissioner Roger Goodell’s recent memo reiterating that the policy prohibiting criticism of officiating means what it says, notwithstanding information we recently received from NFL spokesman Greg Aiello suggesting that discipline would arise only in the event of personal attacks on officials or criticism of the integrity of officiating.
But why, then, didn’t Chargers coach Norv Turner get fined for calling the officiating blunder that caused his team to lose to the Broncos a week earlier “unacceptable“? And why hasn’t Cowboys owner Jerry Jones been fined for twice ripping publicly into referee Ed Hochuli in the days after Hochuli’s last name transformed into a verb?
A cynical mind would think that Turner got a free pass because he made his remarks as part of a mandatory post-game press conference, and the league recognized that there’s no way he could have been expected under the circumstances to say nothing about the error. A cynical mind also would be inclined to wonder whether the league office is treading carefully with Jones, an influential owner who could go a long way toward brokering a new CBA or blowing everything up and pushing pro football toward a baseball-style system without a salary cap.
Regardless, the rules are either going to be applied as written, or they’re not. And if for every fine issued there are multiple circumstances in which fines should have been issued but weren’t, this means that the league isn’t applying its rules fairly and consistently.
So the league either needs to change the manner in which this specific rule is applied, or the league needs to change the rule to something that the league will be able to apply consistently.
Such as, for example, a rule prohibiting only personal attacks on officials or criticism of the integrity of officiating.
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September 28th, 2008 at 9:15 am
Florio - Do you mean more consistency from the league head quarters? Consistency from Goodell? Marshawn Lynch gets nothing for a plead down Hit-and-Run involving injury, Kaczur nothing announced, Matt Jones nothing announced, Marvin Harrison nothing announced, vs the suspensions so widely publicized? There is no consistency in how Goodell handles things as there is no written policy/procedure for detrimental “personal conduct”.
Yes there needs to be consistency for all things coming out of the league office. Including fines for people like Jerry Jones, Norv Turner and Sean Payton. Do you think that will happen with or without the NFLPA stepping in or a new CBA?
Jerry Jones was not fined because money talks louder than anything else in sports.
Norv Turner was not fined “because it was right after the game” - come on many coaches have been fined in the past for saying something in their post game comments. So why not now?
Sean Payton was fined, days later?
Consistency is absent from the rulings from the league office since right after the last super bowl. What happened? Did the owners remind Roger who pays him?
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September 28th, 2008 at 9:16 am
I would say the difference is that he announced that he would ask the league to look into it. If he had stopped at “hard pill to swallow” there probably wouldn’t be a fine.
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September 28th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Payton got fined because he was the most recent. Goodell drew a proverbial line in the sand (retroactively, perhaps) that Payton was the last one to cross.
If the league started to crack down on past infractions where would it stop? The second to most recent? The third? Fourth? You could go back quite a ways.
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September 28th, 2008 at 9:28 am
I feel the officials should be called out and scrutinized. They should be held accountable just like everyone else in the league. How about imposing fines for officials making horendous calls, i.e. hoculi?
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September 28th, 2008 at 9:36 am
WE (the funs) need to take Jerry Jones’s open critism of Hockuli more seriously. Does the name “Donaghue” rings any bells?
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September 28th, 2008 at 10:01 am
His owner should have fined Payton for going for that TD just before halftime instead of kicking the 18 yard FG that completely altered that Denver game and cost the Saints the loss. Stupid/reckless decision!
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September 28th, 2008 at 10:13 am
Just another example of Goodell’s ineptness as Commish. This guy is terrible and is clearly controlled by a few of the league’s high profile owners. Do you really think Pac Man would have been reinstated if he played for the Rams or the Jaguars? Goodell has one set of rules for his buddies and another set for the rest of the NFL.
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September 28th, 2008 at 10:39 am
The NFL officials are scrutinized. It is just done by the leagues Head of Officiating. He is charged with reviewing each and every call. I am certain if he deems a call as questionable, or irronious then he will speak with the game official who made the call.
I can see why the league frowns upon coaches and others associated directly with the NFL into questioning the game officials. Doing so impedes on the integrity of the game.
I would imagine that most fans would take the word of the coach of his or her team over that of others. Afterall, aren’t they supposed to know the rules. That being the case, when a coach or coaches call out a referee it makes the league look bad.
I am not saying it is right or wrong, it is just the way it is.
Secondly, I don’t think there is a team in the NFL who hasn’t been aided by a bad or missed call at some point in time. I know my team has.
Lastly, officials, like the rest of us are human, and none of us are perfect. I expect the official to do the very best job that he is capable of doing, and try to remember that he is only human.
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September 28th, 2008 at 11:51 am
As a Saints fan, I don’t care about that call, we should have won the game by playing better than the Broncos and we didn’t. I do however think it is ridiculous that Payton got fined coming off of a week where everyone and there mom took shots at Hochuli in the press. I liked Goodell when he started all these hard line policy’s, but if your going to be inconsistent it undermines any authority you are trying to establish. Quit playing favorites if you really want fans to think the NFL is fair.
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September 29th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Jerry Jones has been fined per interview with Ed Werder.
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