In a recent interview on WDVE in Pittsburgh, ESPN analyst Merrill Hoge blasted Titans quarterback Vince Young, calling Young “a soft baby.”
The full audio is right here.
Among other things, Hoge said that Young was recruited to attend Oklahoma, and that the folks at Oklahoma pulled the plug because he “was the most immature crybaby they’d ever met.”
Hoge also said that, during the Week One game against the Jaguars, when Young reportedly tried to pull himself out of the game and later got hurt, some of the defensive players were happy, since they believed it gave the team a better chance to win the game.
Hoge also dredged up an incident from 2006, when Young missed the team plane for a road game. Hoge says that, after Young caught up with the team, he pulled his hood over his head and cried in the locker room.
Most importantly, Hoge claimed that coach Jeff Fisher “fought like crazy” to keep the Titans from drafting Young, who was drafted (per Hoge) because Titans owner Bud Adams wanted to stick it to the franchise’s former city of Houston. The current NFL franchise in Houston, the Texans, had the first pick that year and passed on Young. Hoge says that Adams then ordered the powers-that-be to take Young.
Not surprisingly, Fisher disputes Hoge’s comments, but Fisher doesn’t make a very convincing case.
“I’ve helped Merril,” Fisher told the Tennessean. “He has called me and asked me questions. But we talk football, we don’t talk about life. If I spent all my time trying to figure out why people say things or do things, I am taking away from coaching my football team. I don’t want to spend any more time discussing it.’’
For his own part, Hoge has had to address the controversy sparked by his candid, blunt assessment of Young.
“I know people think that I hate Vince Young,” Hoge told the Tennessean. “I’ve never met Vince Young and I don’t want him to fail. I’ve been critical of him, but that’s my job. Everything he has gone through, I hope he’s able to work his way through it.”
Possible translation? “Oh, crap. You mean when I talk on the radio in Pittsburgh they tape what I said and play it on the Internet?”
Regardless of anything said by Fisher or Hoge after the fact, Hoge said what he said, there was no ambiguity, and if his remarks are even close to being on the money it means that one of the few remaining undefeated teams in the AFC has a major problem that it needs to deal with at some point during or after the 2008 season.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 8:36 am
all these years and i never knew his name was spelled Hoge. Learn something new every day.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 8:38 am
Maybe that score of 6 was the result of VY being graded on a curve.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 8:39 am
There’s no football in crying. Or something.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 8:40 am
Hoge’s words are only so true….
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September 23rd, 2008 at 8:49 am
Well Hoge was pretty much the only analyst who said Vince shouldn’t have been drafted so high in that draft. Seems he was right non the money. Many people thought he was crazy at the time.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 8:51 am
get on little doggy-
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September 23rd, 2008 at 8:52 am
Geoff Ketchum who runs Rivals.com’s Orangebloods.com (Texas Longhorns) has totally disputed and refuted what Hoge has to say. I’m a paid member on that site and Longhorns/Vince Young fan. Hoge is a bitter man and a racist. He’ll do anything/say anything to put VY down and I can’t believe that ESPN continues to let him use their airtime to spew this type of garbage. It’s one thing to give an evaluation of a player, but to continue to put him down and then make things up is simply irresponsible journalism. I don’t buy anything this guy says and his insight is worth about as much as that lint covered penny you find in your pants you haven’t worn in 10 years.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 8:56 am
one too many concussions, Hoge. That guy is the Jay Mariotti of ESPN.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 8:59 am
Heard this over the weekend, the limo info is old news. Hoge should keep “off the record” conversations between friends because this puts a buddy under unnecessary stress. Hoge has likely destroyed any future “off the record” communication w the way he handled this.
Apparently it was well known that Vince was immature & Bud ignored the feedback from his advisors(coaches). Well this is going to be an expensive ego gratifying check that has been signed by the owner.
Winning Rookie of the year might have been the worse thing that happened to Vince, his ego & ignorance of the coaching staff likely intensified . Fisher knows QBs, look at his analysis of Jay Cutler for Shanahan .
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:04 am
I hate Merrill Hoge!! But he might be on to something here.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:05 am
Heard this over the weekend, the limo info is old news. Hoge should keep “off the record” conversations between friends because this puts a buddy under unnecessary stress. Hoge has likely destroyed any future “off the record” communication w the way he handled this.
Apparently it was well known that Vince was immature & Bud ignored the feedback from his advisors(coaches). Well this is going to be an expensive ego gratifying check that has been signed by the owner.
Winning Rookie of the year might have been the worse thing that happened to Vince, his ego & ignorance of the coaching staff likely intensified . Overlooked in this is his “heartless & immature” comments about Matt Leinhart. Fisher knows QBs, look at his analysis of Jay Cutler for Shanahan .
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:10 am
Hoge also unloaded on Matt Lienart.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:12 am
If there is anyone in the NFL Analyst Game that has a bigger flamethrower in his mouth, (By this I mean Hoge burns alot of bridges with his words)I have yet to hear from them.
I think I respect this guy’s opinion even less than Mark Schlereth, and his nickname is “Stink”.
I won’t bet the farm on it, but I truly believe this dragged out soap-opera in the media will strengthen Vince Young’s will to play football, play it at a high level, and shut the mouths of all the FORMER NFL players who now make a living speculating on the game. Titans will finish this season with Vince at the helm, not Kerry Collins…
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:17 am
Wow, makes it sound like Young is worse than Leinart. I thought his horrible performance this year was because he was temporarily insane, but now it sounds like it’s his intelligence as well.
Why did these guys look so good in college? Why were they drafted above Cutler? If it was really just because, “Bud Adams wanted to stick it to the franchise’s former city of Houston” that’s hilarious because Adams was only sticking it to himself.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:22 am
Even if he weren’t so unstable, Young is just not a very good quarterback or an accurate passer. I never heard him described as someone who could “make all of the throws”. Great college quarterbacks don’t always translate to great or even very good pro quarterback. It’s a different game. In college, Young benefited from the wide hashmarks which creates a more wide open game. The NFL is more suited to guys like Matt Ryan and that kid at Georgia now and less for guys like Young and Tebow.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:22 am
Why’s Hoge so antagonistic towards Vince? I mean, it’s one thing to say that you don’t think VY can handle the pressures of being a quarterback in the NFL; it’s another to go off on him routinely and call him a “crybaby” in a public forum.
Men who cry over something as silly as missing the team plane aren’t “crybabies”. They’re clearly dealing with some kind of mental or emotional problem, and making fun of them/calling them names probably isn’t constructive.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:31 am
I would have to agree with Hoge,I remember on Draft Day that year,the commentators were also saying that Bud Adams wanted Young over the heated objections of the scouting staff….
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:35 am
It seems to be well past the point of criticizing Young’s football abilities and commenting on whether he is tough enough or a leader. He obviously has some emotional issues, perhaps clinical depression, and guys like Hoge that continue to take potshots sound like they aren’t smart enough to understand that.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:37 am
what’s ironic is that Jay Cutler was drafted by the Broncos only after Shanahan consulted Jeff Fisher on the pick and his thoughts of Cutler…and he turned out to be the best of the 3 QBs (Young & Leinart)!
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:42 am
Jeez Merrill, tell us how you really feel…
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:44 am
“Geoff Ketchum who runs Rivals.com’s Orangebloods.com (Texas Longhorns) has totally disputed and refuted what Hoge has to say. I’m a paid member on that site and Longhorns/Vince Young fan.”
–So you’re an admitted Vince fanboy, making you completely unobjective here.
“Hoge is a bitter man and a racist.”
–That’s an allegation you better be ready to prove. I’m a Bengals fan and thus no Merril Hoge fan, but that’s a bit much.
“He’ll do anything/say anything to put VY down”
–He’s an analyst, and Vince Young sucks. Sometimes being an analyst means criticizing players who suck and can’t take the pressure. Why the hell would Hoge care about Young, anyway? Your story doesn’t make sense.
“but to continue to put him down and then make things up is simply irresponsible journalism.”
–He’s not “putting him down”, he’s recognizing that Young’s not bringing much to the table - something that’s pretty obvious since he seems to have lost his job to Kerry f’ing Collins. That plus his mental breakdown a couple of weeks ago seems to prove Hoge’s point. As for making things up…let’s see if they’re true. Of course Fisher has to deny it, that’s his coach. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
I’ve got nothing against Young personally, but he just doesn’t seem to have what it takes to lead an NFL team. Enjoy your UT national championship and move on.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:46 am
Yeah, it’s looking more and more like Fisher & the scouting staff wanted Cutler.
When they couldn’t convince Adams, Fisher told Shanahan how great Cutler was, and Shanahan - without ever speaking to Cutler - traded up to get him in the 11th.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:48 am
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September 23rd, 2008 at 8:52 am
I’m a paid member on that site and Longhorns/Vince Young fan. Hoge is a bitter man and a racist.
Stop playing the racist card you bigot.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:53 am
I have little to no respect for Hoge’s opinion, but he got this right. It may offend some, but those offended should stop crying along with VY.
To VY: grow up Mama’s boy, the world is not going to get handed to you, you have to stand up for yourself and go after it.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 9:58 am
How about a little story credit here? Or maybe Hoge is reading this site and saw my diatribe on how Fisher didn’t want Young. I said this was nothinng more than Bud Adams thinking he was sticking his thumbs in the eyes of every Oiler fan for not fighting for a new stadium.
It’s all in the archives within the last month. 8/27 @ 6:03; 9/8 @ 2:02; 9/10 @ 10:27.
Fess up, Hoge.
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