We went into the 7:00 p.m. EDT hour with an open mind, even though we were pre-disposed to embracing ESPN’s new-old Primetime show and finding more reasons not to like Football Night in America.
So we pulled both networks up on the split screen and hopped back and forth until we decided that we have a preference.
It was/is Football Night.
The difference is that NBC has extended highlights, and ESPN didn’t have many — if any.
The content on ESPN was solid, but we can get analysis and other stuff in plenty of places, and at plenty of times. At 7:00 p.m. EDT on Sunday, we want one thing.
Highlights.
The lack of the same on ESPN wasn’t the result of some production decision gone awry in Bristol; when NBC bought the Sunday night games, NBC also bought the right to do an exclusive Sunday evening highlight show.
We also liked the reunion of Keith Olbermann and Dan Patrick, the former ESPN anchors who seamlessly handed the highlights packages back and forth with enthusiasm and humor, most of which was appropriate. (Olbermann was poking a bit too much fun at Tom Brady’s blown ACL for our liking, and he impishly snuck in a couple of homages to his Countdown shtick.)
Our primary advice to NBC? The show needs to show more highlights.
The thing that made Primetime so good was the fact that Chris Berman would narrate extensive, thorough clips of the game in an oft-breathless voice that made us think that each recorded play was happening in real time. For folks whose can’t follow nine games at once even if they have the hardware in the house to do so, the evening highlights show is the only chance to get a semi-meaningful look at what happened in each game; we want something more than the highlights that will be played over and over again on SportsCenter the next day.
The problem remains that Football Night is cluttered up with stuff we don’t need or want, such as Cris Collinsworth, Jerome Bettis, and Tiki Barber periodically yukking it up.
Still, despite some flaws, it’ll be the preferred destination.
Hopefully, ESPN’s effort to draw eyeballs away from NBC will prompt the peacock network to continue to try to come up with ways to improve the effort.
The best place to start is more highlights.
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September 8th, 2008 at 8:32 am
I agree completely… the more highlights the better
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September 8th, 2008 at 8:41 am
After the Steelers put on the most dominant performance of the day, why did they have no highlights from that game?
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September 8th, 2008 at 8:44 am
The best place to get highlights is nfl.com. It takes them a bit to get them up but you can watch them whenever you want at your own pace without all the brutal commercials.
Highlight shows are almost unwatchable with all the studio guys trying to talk at once. Then the highlight YOU wanna see comes on… after the break! To hell with television, I’ll watch the highlights I want to when I want to, thanks…
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September 8th, 2008 at 8:46 am
I honestly prefer the NFL Network’s highlights show to either NBC or ESPN.
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September 8th, 2008 at 8:49 am
I agree with your choice. However, I can’t watch that show because of that left wing loser OBBOY who can’t keep his politics out of sorts. I felt the same way about Gammons for many years, hadto quit reading his stuff because I want to read about sports, not have your politics shoved down my throat!
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September 8th, 2008 at 8:51 am
Could not disagree more strongly with you on this, Florio. Football Night has gotten progressively worse and Olbermann is nauseating, rivaled only by baseball man Costas in that department.
As far as Primetime, I was all excited to see it, flipped over and f-ing baseball was on. WTF??
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September 8th, 2008 at 8:57 am
when will PFT finally show some highlights?
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September 8th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Who cares about the ’show’ did you see the Game???? Okay, I get it, Bob Costa sucks. He always has his name first when he interviews anyone. On the day of the second coming it will be “Bob Costa interviews some guy named Jesus”
Cris Collingsworth is terrible. Even if he does think that he was one of the greatest receivers of all time - his opinion, he still sucks - anal is a good description.
Tiki should have held out for the Today Show - enough said.
Keith Olbermann is great and he carries the show. He is quick witted and half of his really funny stuff is stepped on by Cris who is afraid of not being ‘the main guy’.
Dan Patrick was a great off season pick up. He is very funny and very sharp when it comes to the game.
Jerome Bettis is great. He’s there to have fun and that’s how it should be.
NBC should keep Keith, Dan and Jerome. It would be as good as Fox if they did that.
Did you see how good the Bears played???? I think the mantle is shifting back to the entire NFC. This will be a great season. Lots of really strong teams coming out of the gate.
Dan Patrick.
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September 8th, 2008 at 9:42 am
Way to many “Analyst” on football night. Less yacking and more highlights are always more preferable. I thought ESPN did a good job with their new/old primetime, but it goes to show i said it before and i’ll say it again, they (ESPN) kept the wrong package when they had both sunday and monday night games. You can tell the wished they would have kept the sunday package for the rights to do highlights at 7:00 pm.
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September 8th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Two big things I noticed; first, Tiki has an almost sickening bias towards the NFC East… to the point where I don’t think he said anything meaningful about any of the other 28 teams not in the NFC East. I mean whats the point of having him on there if thats all he’s gonna talk about. I’m tired of Tiki and can’t wait for the count(drop the “O”) to get his own cooking show or whatever his aspirations are and leave the football to the football guys.
Second, the whole highlights thing is a joke because it showed several clips from the Cowboys/Browns, Jets/Dolphins, and Pats/Chiefs games… then it showed a single clip from a few other games… then no clips from some of the others (Titans/Jax got no highlights).
Its not perfect but I sure hope the pregame gets better.
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September 8th, 2008 at 10:32 am
I miss ESPN Primetime. No matter what NBC does it will never be as good Chris Berman talking over the highlights. I hate the NBC show. It would be vastly improved if they got rid of Collingsworth, Costas,
Bettis, Barber, King, Patrick and Olbermann. Did I leave anybody out.
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September 8th, 2008 at 10:50 am
NFL Sundays are becoming one long over hyped blur.
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September 8th, 2008 at 11:15 am
I agree that the NBC show needs more highlights and less “analysis” from Bettis and Barber who only answer softball questions.
The other problem with the program is that it starts too early - 7 pm ET. Most of the late afternoon games don’t end until 7:10 or 7:15 (case in point - the exciting Carolina-Chargers game). Since the Sunday game night doesn’t start until 8:15-8:20, why not push back the start of the show and just have an hour long program? I know. I know. It’s all about money, Stupid. NBC probably makes millions from Chevy for that extra minutes.
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September 8th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Titans fan,
There were no highlights of that awful game. (except for maybe Chris Johnson).
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September 8th, 2008 at 11:45 am
The NBC show was impossible to watch with the bantering of Keith O. He was horrible. Dan Patrick wasn’t much better.
I would have switched to NFLN but their HD channel and their highlight show were not even in HD. Crazy.
I ended up watching no highlights until the game came on.
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September 8th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Dear Espn, Could u just go back to the old primetime days wit tom jackson and chris berman and could u also play the nfl primetime highlight music and not the sportscenter highlight music is that to much to ask for i tell u the truth espn could mess up a wet dream..
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September 8th, 2008 at 11:49 am
I tuned over to Fox and caught their end of day highights. It was much better. More highlights and less jibber-jabber. Strahan’s debut was pretty decent.
I agree with Florio that the kiddie table of Colinsworth, Bettis, & Barber was a distration. I’d go further and say it was awful! If I wanted to watch The View, I tune into the View! Tiki professes his love of the NFC East. Bettis’ feelings still hurt after the Rams sent him away, boo-hoo. And Collinsworth is like the kid who got beat up in the school yard. It’s not so much what he says, but how he says - like a snarky whiner (David Spade with out the wit or humor).
-DeathSpiral
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September 8th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
I wouldnt go so far as to say football night works. I would say its starting to feel like it works because its been so long now since weve had a real highlight show available on sundays. NBC is running this thing like its a pregame, not postgame show. I dont care what Tiki has to say about the days games, just give us the damn highlights.
ESPN gave in-depth highlights supplemented by quick and insightful commentary from Berman and Tom Jackson. NBC spends the bulk of the hour letting us watch their paid employees talk about tomorrows newspaper headlines, and occasionally shows some football. Everything about the NBC setup is worse in every possible way; for example, it bugs the hell out of me that we watch 50% of the highlights from a camera stationed behind Jerome Bettis’ giant head. I dont need to see those guys watching the highlight, id much prefer to be able to see it myself.
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September 8th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Olbermann is an idiot. He thinks he is a comedian, but he’s not funny. I hope they run him off this show like MSNBC did today….
I actually turned the show off and waited till kickoff to come back to NBC.
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September 8th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
bavaro89,
Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up for me! Yeah those highlights from the Ravens/Bengals game were sooooo much better.
My point was there’s more of an emphasis on strickly the big market teams. And I know what you’re gonna say, “that’s what everyone wants to see, the big market teams…” but does anyone ever think that maybe the small market teams remain small because they get no airplay. Hell even Jax (who I hate) cant get any airplay… the only way Jax gets any “highlights” is if MJD breaks one off for something like 80 yards… and even then it barely gets mentioned.
It would be good to see them go over every game from the day. And yes, that whole watching the highlights over their should thing is a little weird.
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September 8th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
NFL Network’s highlight show is great, except that it isn’t in high definition. WTF? All games are now in HD, and NFL Network does other stuff in HD, why not the highlight show???
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September 8th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Football Night is the worst NFL show on tv. They should cancel it and just start the SNF broadcast with John and Al(and skip the faith hill crap).
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September 8th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Let’s just say we wouldn’t want steve2e to analyze, say, anything. Haha, kidding, man. “Bob Costas sucks … Cris Collingsworth [sic] is terrible … Jerome Bettis is great.”
Football Night in America was awesome. You know what I believe was on for much of the same time, though, is the OT on Fox. How do you guys think that show compared?
Because I didn’t care about flipping between ESPN and NBC … it was between Fox and NBC, and analyzing myself a day later, I believe I preferred Football Night in America by a moderate margin.
You know who is honestly awful? The Bus, Jerome Bettis. In one analysis, all he did was talk about each nuance of I believe the Pitt game and said each mentioned name or unit played “outstanding” or something to that effect, literally, for the entire time he was describing the Steelers’ effort. That was it. He is not good. He has never been good. Oh well.
I don’t mind Tiki, though I know I’m in the minority on that. And what’s with the posters slamming Cris Collinsworth … are you guys insane? He’s gooooood. And obviously it doesn’t get much better than Costas, Olbermann, and Patrick. I wonder if the show will be tweaked or if it will keep going as is.
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September 8th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Olberman is a piece of garbage. He is not a journalist as he wears his bias on his sleeve, his face, in his words, in his tone and in everything he says and does. I am surprised he doesn’t end every sentence with “Obama Obama….OBAMA!” Much like the rest of the mainstream “media,” there is such a overwhelming bias in favor of the Party of the Jackass (see their own mascot) I can only watch Fox news and C-Span for my political fix. Oh hell, this is a football site. That said, Adrian Peterson is OVER RATED. Big time.
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September 9th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
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September 8th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Olberman is a piece of garbage. He is not a journalist as he wears his bias on his sleeve, his face, in his words, in his tone and in everything he says and does. I am surprised he doesn’t end every sentence with “Obama Obama….OBAMA!” Much like the rest of the mainstream “media,” there is such a overwhelming bias in favor of the Party of the Jackass (see their own mascot) I can only watch Fox news and C-Span for my political fix. Oh hell, this is a football site. That said, Adrian Peterson is OVER RATED. Big time.
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Thanks for sharing this. I haven’t had anyone stupid to laugh at all day.
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