Recently, SportsBusiness Daily reported that CBS Interactive Inc. filed suit against the NFL Players Association regarding the union’s incessant demands for payment arising from the use of player names in fantasy football games.
The only problem? A legal battle concluded earlier this year stands for the proposition that player names and statistics are in the public domain.
“Despite the clarity of the law on this issue, and despite its arguments having been fully considered in the recent litigation, the Players Association continues to make objectively baseless demands for licensing fees from CBS Interactive and others in the fantasy football industry,” the lawsuit, filed earlier in the week, asserts.
The NFLPA also has allegedly threatened CBS that, if a challenge to the union’s right to licensing fees, the NFLPA will refuse to grant CBS the rights necessary to operate fantasy football games. As a result, CBS has also included a claim for antitrust violations.
The dispute is fairly straightforward — CBS believes that a lawsuit arising in connection with major league baseball controls the situation. Earlier in the year, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal of a ruling that the player names and statistics are not subject to licensing fees.
In this case, CBS took the initiative, filing suit in the same Circuit from which the baseball decision initiated. If CBS had waited, the NFLPA could have filed suit in a different jurisdiction, where the baseball ruling would not have constituted binding legal precedent.
The fact that the Supreme Court declined to hear the issue doesn’t mean that the law is fully and clearly resolved. Typically, the Supreme Court only agrees to hear cases that involve issues on which various U.S. Circuit Courts of Appeal have disagreed, or where the Circuit in a given case has blatantly failed to apply existing law properly.
In this case, then, the NFLPA really should have taken the initiative and filed suit in a potentially friendly court. As it now stands, the NFLPA likely will initially attack the present lawsuit by arguing that it should not have been filed in federal court in Minnesota.
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September 7th, 2008 at 7:31 am
Geez, talk about greed.
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September 7th, 2008 at 7:33 am
sports and the supreme court, my favorite!
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September 7th, 2008 at 7:51 am
Yeah, but Kid Rock put out an ad on Sirius that went something like this:
“Don’t worry about downloading my tunes. It’s cool. I mean, let’s face it, I’m (expletive) rich. I mean, really (expletive) rich. All I’m asking is that we level the playing field….do you know how much cash Microsoft and Apple have? Next time you need a computer, just go take one! Need a car? Test drive that baby right off the lot. And you need some gas for it, right? Fill’er up, drive away. Just steal everything!”
I can’t make a video game or a tee-shirt that’s main character is a football player named Ocho Cinco without getting into a fair amount of trouble. Other people are making money off the NFL’s product. As much as I hate those filthy stinking rich bastards, they probably have the right.
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September 7th, 2008 at 8:05 am
And once the Supreme court does hear the case, you’ll then remind us how ludicrous its decision was?
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September 7th, 2008 at 8:28 am
Does this mean I can sue the NFLPA for Shaun Alexander stinking up my fantasy team a few years back?
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September 7th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Does the NFLPA take into account how much fantasy football has helped football become more popular and, thus, more people watch football. This probably doesn’t affect tickets sold to games, but it does affect how many people watch it on television, increasing what networks will pay to air it. Why else would somebody watch today’s Cardinals-49ers game? (unless the lost a bet)
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September 7th, 2008 at 8:44 am
anesthesia, the supreme court has made many ludicrous decisions about sports…
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September 7th, 2008 at 8:46 am
The craziness of all of this is that Fantasy Football is one of the big reasons, football has taken increased in popularity over the last 15 years. Yes football would have a solid audience, but there is no denying that fact the FF, has helped increase the TV ratings, football publication circulation, web page hits and and television ratings. What I would like to see is the people stand up and tell the NFLPA that you are a bunch of greedy bastards, and the fans are still in charge. It would take the fans a single football season to demostrate our power. No tv, no jersey sales, no magazine purchases, and truly, the power of the people would be realized.
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September 7th, 2008 at 8:59 am
bcmcknight77 - Your analogy is awful. The stats are not the product; the game itself is the product. Kid Rocks makes music, which is his product, like Apple makes a computer. This is more like Kid Rock wanted to charge you every time you sung the lyrics or hummed one of the rhythms from his songs in the shower, or CNN charging you for having a discussion about one their news articles. I know humming or singing along does not produce a revenue stream, but really the money to ff sites is used for management of the games. They are charging for organizing the stats, managing rosters, etc, the aren’t reselling the stats. Stats themselves can be gotten from any newspaper for free.
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September 7th, 2008 at 9:03 am
bcmcknight77 - I agree with you in that I don’t blame the NFLPA for trying to go after whatever piece of the pie they can; afterall, that is their job. But in this case, they have no leg to stand on. By charging these websites/companies for the use of player’s names and statistics, they would in turn have to/have the ability to start charging newspapers, magazines, websites, etc for the same thing, the right to use their player’s names and statistics.
This site could be charged for “profiting” off of the NFL players seeing as though it is a site dedicated to using the player’s name and in some cases statistics to create a “product,” in essence, the blog. Take the players names out of it and none of us are reading this.
It’s a dangerous precedent to set. The fact of the matter is, I can sit in my living room with 12 other guys and have my own fantasy draft and we could track everything as we wanted to. All companies like CBS, Yahoo! and ESPN do is provide the software to make it easier. Sure, they make a profit off advertising and some of their professional packages, but they are doing it with information that is readily available for free… legally.
But again, I don’t blame the NFLPA for trying…
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September 7th, 2008 at 9:30 am
I don’t play fantasy football, and I could care less how it is done, but I do agree with the players association. You are using my name without my permission to create a game based on my performance which I firmly believe gambling is going on behind the scenes, then I should be compensated. I hope the new president either forces fantasy football to pay the players for the usage of their names and stats, or put a stop to this stupid nonsense once and for all. Put yourself in their shoes, if someone was using you to make money, wouldn’t you want to get your share. Slavery has not ended in this country, it just got more sneaky and underhanded!
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September 7th, 2008 at 9:31 am
I’ve never quite understood why it is rich people (ya know, the people who provide products and services we obviously want and need to some degree) are so hated.
Then I read Bmcknight’s blog. I forgot, we hate money, and therefore, everyone who makes it must be evil. We all know the only way to counter that evil is to steal what’s rightfully theirs, whether it be a name or an idea.
In the end, they have plenty of money, so it’s in all of our best interest to make sure they can’t make any more. That’s the American way! Dull down competition so everyone has an equal opportunity to let others make money for us!
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September 7th, 2008 at 10:20 am
BFavrefan1 - You put together a coherent argument, the go insane. You really think that Fantasy Football is a form a slavery? Really?
Get some perspective or an education about history before you run your mouth again. There are enough problems in this country without jackasses trying to manufacture more.
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September 7th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Geez! all this fuss over something that’s a freaking waste of time!
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September 7th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
I guess if they did start charging to use the players names, fantasy football sites could combat this by using team names and jersey numbers. For example, instead of paying to use the name Chad Ocho Cinco, they could do drafts by saying Cincinatti Bengals - #85. I’m pretty sure the players don’t own the rights to that. But, then, the NFL would prolly sue for using the team names…
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