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Comments on: JETS GET PERMISSION TO TALK TO FAVRE http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:14:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: IPBprez http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62769 IPBprez Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:12:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62769 favrefromover(?) - I hear your passion, man. I really do. But, you are quite mistaken if you think Rodgers hasn't been competing for that Starting Job. It's, even now, being re-reported that last year Rodgers was proving that he deserved the Job over Favre last year and that's from Jay Glazer. The deal here is to go with the guy who wins it in Training Camp as it alway has been. Am I a Favre-hater? Nothing of the sort. I even have Favre's Plaque for 200 TD's (it's #8 of 200). I luv the guy to death, seriously. But, this primadonna routine is what's got most Packerfans staying home as oppose to marching on Lambeau en masse. You know it, as well as any other diehard Cheesehead. Heck, most of us guys would damn sure dump a girlfriend who behaved that way. Where is it that Favre is above being grownup about this and behaving like a man, first & foremost? How does he rate a free pass? My take, is that when he faxes that paperwork, the first thing he does is state he will damn sure WIN BACK his J*O*B. It's the class thing to do, period! It's the righteous way to end his great career - with gusto! Go Packers - Go IPB favrefromover(?) - I hear your passion, man. I really do. But, you are quite mistaken if you think Rodgers hasn’t been competing for that Starting Job. It’s, even now, being re-reported that last year Rodgers was proving that he deserved the Job over Favre last year and that’s from Jay Glazer. The deal here is to go with the guy who wins it in Training Camp as it alway has been. Am I a Favre-hater? Nothing of the sort. I even have Favre’s Plaque for 200 TD’s (it’s #8 of 200). I luv the guy to death, seriously. But, this primadonna routine is what’s got most Packerfans staying home as oppose to marching on Lambeau en masse. You know it, as well as any other diehard Cheesehead. Heck, most of us guys would damn sure dump a girlfriend who behaved that way. Where is it that Favre is above being grownup about this and behaving like a man, first & foremost? How does he rate a free pass? My take, is that when he faxes that paperwork, the first thing he does is state he will damn sure WIN BACK his J*O*B. It’s the class thing to do, period! It’s the righteous way to end his great career - with gusto!

Go Packers - Go IPB

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]]> By: wingnut http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62765 wingnut Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:55:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62765 Who do you blame for the Brett Favre mess Brett Favre PFT.com Ted Thompson Bus Cook Mike McCarthy Who do you blame for the
Brett Favre mess

Brett Favre
PFT.com
Ted Thompson
Bus Cook
Mike McCarthy

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]]> By: Bob S. http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62713 Bob S. Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:11:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62713 If the Giants received so much backlash for their plan of seat licenses at the new stadium, it will be much, much worse for the Jets when they too announce their plans. Giants have a base of season ticket holders going back 50-60. Jets don't even have as well off fans as Giants do. Getting Favre is a must for the Jets as they move into the new stadium NEXT year and that means Favre will be around at least 2 more years. If the Giants received so much backlash for their plan of seat licenses at the new stadium, it will be much, much worse for the Jets when they too announce their plans. Giants have a base of season ticket holders going back 50-60. Jets don’t even have as well off fans as Giants do.

Getting Favre is a must for the Jets as they move into the new stadium NEXT year and that means Favre will be around at least 2 more years.

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62637 empty13 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:44:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62637 actually no, when bf throws a playof pick it is more like a high flying and far falling wounded duck into a centerfielder's glove. circa playoff losses to iggles and gynauts... it does seem tampa is playing some game to jack up the bidding however. bf going diva has to have driven down trade value/interest at least a little. i am sure the "just release brett" crowd is now warming up... actually no, when bf throws a playof pick it is more like a high flying and far falling wounded duck into a centerfielder’s glove.

circa playoff losses to iggles and gynauts…

it does seem tampa is playing some game to jack up the bidding however.

bf going diva has to have driven down trade value/interest at least a little. i am sure the “just release brett” crowd is now warming up…

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]]> By: gbpack1967 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62632 gbpack1967 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:39:31 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62632 jrh42 says: July 25th, 2008 at 2:21 pm Nice try… Favre won’t except a trade to the jets. He doesn’t want to have to carry a team on his back like he did last year. Yeah every time Jennings or Driver went 30 yards after taking a 2 yard pass, he was really carrying the team.. jrh42 says:

July 25th, 2008 at 2:21 pm Nice try… Favre won’t except a trade to the jets. He doesn’t want to have to carry a team on his back like he did last year.

Yeah every time Jennings or Driver went 30 yards after taking a 2 yard pass, he was really carrying the team..

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]]> By: svnrdr http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62622 svnrdr Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:26:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62622 Brett Favre in a jet's uniform is akin to smearing feces on Heidi Klum. Brett Favre in a jet’s uniform is akin to smearing feces on Heidi Klum.

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]]> By: jjcruiser http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62620 jjcruiser Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:22:51 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62620 Sweet! If I were the Patriots I would offer Green Bay a Sixth Rounder to trade him to the Jets. Sweet! If I were the Patriots I would offer Green Bay a Sixth Rounder to trade him to the Jets.

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]]> By: JoeSixPack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62599 JoeSixPack Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:10:10 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62599 Henry Plainview - I'm sure the Jets had no intention to use that videotape "during the playing of the game" as the rules previously read. Of course, Goodell closed that loophole with his memo in September of 2006, so they would have been cheating. Though I guess most ignorant fans would consider any taping prior to the memo which admitted the open loophole to be cheating as well - that's why so many stupid fans like to claim that the Patriots were "cheating" in 2001, 2003, and 2004 during their Super Bowl victories. Frankly I've always been quite impressed that the Patriots were able to cheat by breaking a 2006 rule back in 2001 - though most ignorant fans tend not to bother with such logic. Henry Plainview - I’m sure the Jets had no intention to use that videotape “during the playing of the game” as the rules previously read.

Of course, Goodell closed that loophole with his memo in September of 2006, so they would have been cheating.

Though I guess most ignorant fans would consider any taping prior to the memo which admitted the open loophole to be cheating as well - that’s why so many stupid fans like to claim that the Patriots were “cheating” in 2001, 2003, and 2004 during their Super Bowl victories.

Frankly I’ve always been quite impressed that the Patriots were able to cheat by breaking a 2006 rule back in 2001 - though most ignorant fans tend not to bother with such logic.

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]]> By: JetMan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62590 JetMan Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:03:38 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62590 let me see, do i want a hof qb, who played like one last year, or do i want a scrub with no arm or a scrub who stinks? yea, i think i'll take the hof'r. since you guys are so quick to get rid of this rare talant i would love to help you out. throw in grant and maybe you can shake baker from us. let me see, do i want a hof qb, who played like one last year, or do i want a scrub with no arm or a scrub who stinks?

yea, i think i’ll take the hof’r. since you guys are so quick to get rid of this rare talant i would love to help you out.

throw in grant and maybe you can shake baker from us.

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]]> By: JoeSixPack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62589 JoeSixPack Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:02:49 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62589 minnesconsin says: yeah, gotta love that stellar pats 2ndary man… what’s that? what a joke that is. Good to hear! That's exactly what they said when Ty Law was injured going into the playoffs years back when a no-name defense won the Super Bowl! Too bad Samuel wasn't sitting out against the Giants. If he doesn't blow his coverage on Tyree, that catch never gets made and everyone's feeling the hate for a 19-0 team. minnesconsin says: yeah, gotta love that stellar pats 2ndary man… what’s that? what a joke that is.

Good to hear! That’s exactly what they said when Ty Law was injured going into the playoffs years back when a no-name defense won the Super Bowl!

Too bad Samuel wasn’t sitting out against the Giants. If he doesn’t blow his coverage on Tyree, that catch never gets made and everyone’s feeling the hate for a 19-0 team.

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62587 empty13 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:02:20 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62587 atlanta would be more like t2's dream for bf to land... atlanta would be more like t2’s dream for bf to land…

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]]> By: JoeSixPack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62583 JoeSixPack Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:57:31 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62583 The question is whether Favre will want to talk with them. Didn't he previously say he didn't want to play for a team that sucked? That would rule out the Jets. Then again, at this point he's probably lowering his standards. Favre on the Jets is definately an upgrade. The interceptions that Pennington throws are soft and easy for opposing teams to catch. Clemens throws his interceptions much harder. Favre still throws the hardest, and most accurate interceptions out of all of them. Gloves or some extra padding on opposing players' numbers might be in order. The question is whether Favre will want to talk with them. Didn’t he previously say he didn’t want to play for a team that sucked?

That would rule out the Jets. Then again, at this point he’s probably lowering his standards.

Favre on the Jets is definately an upgrade. The interceptions that Pennington throws are soft and easy for opposing teams to catch. Clemens throws his interceptions much harder. Favre still throws the hardest, and most accurate interceptions out of all of them. Gloves or some extra padding on opposing players’ numbers might be in order.

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]]> By: kayC http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62573 kayC Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:46:51 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62573 I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, Henry, and assume that the weirdo conspiracy theory you tried to present was in honor of the new X-Files movie coming out today, and not an actual attempt at making a point. The Truth Is Out There! I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, Henry, and assume that the weirdo conspiracy theory you tried to present was in honor of the new X-Files movie coming out today, and not an actual attempt at making a point.

The Truth Is Out There!

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]]> By: Rob0769 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62562 Rob0769 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:41:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62562 Well, I see it as a win/win for Jets fans if the trade happens. Either their team goes to the playoffs or the overrated Mangini who really has done nothing in this league other than learn under Belichick will be fired. I am betting the latter to happen myself. Well, I see it as a win/win for Jets fans if the trade happens. Either their team goes to the playoffs or the overrated Mangini who really has done nothing in this league other than learn under Belichick will be fired. I am betting the latter to happen myself.

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]]> By: Torc http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62561 Torc Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:41:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62561 "Unless they meet in the Super Bowl." It could happen, probably in section 110. “Unless they meet in the Super Bowl.”

It could happen, probably in section 110.

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]]> By: Tileman http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62557 Tileman Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:38:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62557 This deal can't get done fast enough. Whoever gets Favre will be getting the 06 Favre with 29 int's. Good luck with that. Go Pack Go This deal can’t get done fast enough. Whoever gets Favre will be getting the 06 Favre with 29 int’s. Good luck with that.

Go Pack Go

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]]> By: roofles http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62542 roofles Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:29:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62542 "Hahah…that will be grand to see Favre in a Jets uniform. Cheapie Ted does is such a joke. Why he is a general manager I don’t know but I love it. Time for a beer that I will have with a smile on my face thinking about the screwed up Packers. Go Lions." lol, all of this from a lions fan? are you kidding me? “Hahah…that will be grand to see Favre in a Jets uniform. Cheapie Ted does is such a joke. Why he is a general manager I don’t know but I love it. Time for a beer that I will have with a smile on my face thinking about the screwed up Packers.

Go Lions.”

lol, all of this from a lions fan? are you kidding me?

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]]> By: ericpad http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62540 ericpad Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:27:23 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62540 Favre and the packers have been in discussion since earlier this week about potential trade teams . . .I'm sure this has been in motion since then. Favre probably already ok'd them as a potential destination. Favre and the packers have been in discussion since earlier this week about potential trade teams . . .I’m sure this has been in motion since then. Favre probably already ok’d them as a potential destination.

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]]> By: meekdog78 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62533 meekdog78 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:24:20 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62533 40for60 "Hahah…that will be grand to see Favre in a Jets uniform. Cheapie Ted does is such a joke. Why he is a general manager I don’t know but I love it. Time for a beer that I will have with a smile on my face thinking about the screwed up Packers. Go Lions. " tt makes unpopular decisions that make a team better...ill take him any day over the guy in detriot that no one can figure out how he keeps his job. he must have pictures of the owner with a goat or something. 40for60 “Hahah…that will be grand to see Favre in a Jets uniform. Cheapie Ted does is such a joke. Why he is a general manager I don’t know but I love it. Time for a beer that I will have with a smile on my face thinking about the screwed up Packers.

Go Lions. ”

tt makes unpopular decisions that make a team better…ill take him any day over the guy in detriot that no one can figure out how he keeps his job. he must have pictures of the owner with a goat or something.

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]]> By: Henry Plainview http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62531 Henry Plainview Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:23:10 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62531 Goodell and skulldugery, say it ain't so. it's not like he didn't work for the Jets in the past. it's not like the memo on videotaping was sent out in 2006, not 2007 and the Jets were caught illegally taping by the Pats in their playoff game. nothing was done about that, hmmm. then, the Pats get caught the next year against the Jets and it's the end of the world. yeah, Goodell is as honest as they come. NFL Videotaping Controversy Chronology September 6, 2006 NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Ray Anderson writes in a memo to all 32 NFL teams, that videotaping is prohibited during the game.2 November 12, 2006 A New York Jets cameraman is caught taping by the Patriots in Gillette Stadium. When the story comes to light almost a year later, Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum tells the New York Daily News the story is “completely false.” In December 2007, Jets Head Coach Eric Mangini characterizes the story as true. Mangini calls permission for such taping a “common courtesy” which NFL clubs extend to one another – despite the fact that the Jets’ employee was apprehended by Patriots’ staff and told to leave.3 No documents have come to light specifying that “otherwise illegal taping with permission” enjoys any special category of immunity from league action. December 10, 2006 The Miami Dolphins defeat the New England Patriots, using an enhanced-audio videotape Dolphins Coach Nick Saban says he got from television, and Dolphins players say he purchased: "Reaction around the league office was, 'That's football,' " AFC spokesman Steve Alic said.4 Neither coach nor players said the tapes were obtained from a structure “…enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead,” as mandated by the NFL’s operations manual, as regards the shooting of video for coaching purposes.5 The enhanced video does seem to fit the League’s description of the product of information-gathering equipment for coaching purposes. In the league's Constitution & Bylaws, it reads: "Any use by any club at any time, from the start to the finish of any game in which such club is a participant, of any communications or information-gathering equipment, other than Polaroid-type cameras or field telephones, shall be prohibited, including without limitation videotape machines, telephone tapping, or bugging devices, or any other form of electronic devices that might aid a team during the playing of a game."6 September 9, 2007: Members of the New York Jets security staff confiscate a camera from New England Patriots employee Matt Estrella, and “cameragate” begins.7 1http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2696227 NFL: Dolphins did no wrong vs. Patriots. Len Pasquarelli, ESPN.com. December 13, 2007. 2 http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2007/12/videotaping_rul.html Videotaping Rules. Mike Reiss, The Boston Globe, December 12, 2007. 3 http://www.nydailynews.com/[...]spy_for_a_spy_jets_started_video_battle-1.html Spy for a spy: Jets started video battle. Rich Cimini, New York Daily News, December 12, 2007 4 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2696227 NFL: Dolphins did no wrong vs. Patriots. Len Pasquarelli, ESPN.com. December 13, 2007. 5 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3017542 NFL's No-Video Rule. Mike Sando, ESPN.com, September 13, 2007. 6 http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2007/12/videotaping_rul.html Videotaping Rules. Mike Reiss, The Boston Globe, December 12, 2007. 7 http://www.nydailynews.com/[...]eric_mangini_exposes_bill_belichicks_spy.html Eric Mangini Exposes Bill Belichick's Spy Games. Rich Cimini, New York Daily News, December 10, 2007. Goodell and skulldugery, say it ain’t so. it’s not like he didn’t work for the Jets in the past. it’s not like the memo on videotaping was sent out in 2006, not 2007 and the Jets were caught illegally taping by the Pats in their playoff game. nothing was done about that, hmmm. then, the Pats get caught the next year against the Jets and it’s the end of the world. yeah, Goodell is as honest as they come.

NFL Videotaping Controversy Chronology

September 6, 2006

NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Ray Anderson writes in a memo to all 32 NFL teams, that videotaping is prohibited during the game.2

November 12, 2006

A New York Jets cameraman is caught taping by the Patriots in Gillette Stadium. When the story comes to light almost a year later, Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum tells the New York Daily News the story is “completely false.” In December 2007, Jets Head Coach Eric Mangini characterizes the story as true. Mangini calls permission for such taping a “common courtesy” which NFL clubs extend to one another – despite the fact that the Jets’ employee was apprehended by Patriots’ staff and told to leave.3 No documents have come to light specifying that “otherwise illegal taping with permission” enjoys any special category of immunity from league action.

December 10, 2006

The Miami Dolphins defeat the New England Patriots, using an enhanced-audio videotape Dolphins Coach Nick Saban says he got from television, and Dolphins players say he purchased:

“Reaction around the league office was, ‘That’s football,’ ” AFC spokesman Steve Alic said.4

Neither coach nor players said the tapes were obtained from a structure “…enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead,” as mandated by the NFL’s operations manual, as regards the shooting of video for coaching purposes.5 The enhanced video does seem to fit the League’s description of the product of information-gathering equipment for coaching purposes. In the league’s Constitution & Bylaws, it reads:

“Any use by any club at any time, from the start to the finish of any game in which such club is a participant, of any communications or information-gathering equipment, other than Polaroid-type cameras or field telephones, shall be prohibited, including without limitation videotape machines, telephone tapping, or bugging devices, or any other form of electronic devices that might aid a team during the playing of a game.”6

September 9, 2007:

Members of the New York Jets security staff confiscate a camera from New England Patriots employee Matt Estrella, and “cameragate” begins.7

1http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2696227 NFL: Dolphins did no wrong vs. Patriots. Len Pasquarelli, ESPN.com. December 13, 2007.

2 http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2007/12/videotaping_rul.html Videotaping Rules. Mike Reiss, The Boston Globe, December 12, 2007.

3 http://www.nydailynews.com/…spy_for_a_spy_jets_started_video_battle-1.html Spy for a spy: Jets started video battle. Rich Cimini, New York Daily News, December 12, 2007

4 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2696227 NFL: Dolphins did no wrong vs. Patriots. Len Pasquarelli, ESPN.com. December 13, 2007.

5 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3017542 NFL’s No-Video Rule. Mike Sando, ESPN.com, September 13, 2007.

6 http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2007/12/videotaping_rul.html Videotaping Rules. Mike Reiss, The Boston Globe, December 12, 2007.

7 http://www.nydailynews.com/…eric_mangini_exposes_bill_belichicks_spy.html Eric Mangini Exposes Bill Belichick’s Spy Games. Rich Cimini, New York Daily News, December 10, 2007.

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]]> By: Bob S. http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62530 Bob S. Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:23:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62530 What Thompson wants most is to trade Favre to the Saskatchewan Roughriders. What Thompson wants most is to trade Favre to the Saskatchewan Roughriders.

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]]> By: minnesconsin http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62529 minnesconsin Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:22:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62529 "Gonna take NE for my FF defense if Favre lands there. Those picks returned for TD’s will be worth quite a bit." yeah, gotta love that stellar pats 2ndary man... what's that? what a joke that is. “Gonna take NE for my FF defense if Favre lands there. Those picks returned for TD’s will be worth quite a bit.”

yeah, gotta love that stellar pats 2ndary man… what’s that? what a joke that is.

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]]> By: jrh42 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62526 jrh42 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:21:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62526 Nice try... Favre won't except a trade to the jets. He doesn't want to have to carry a team on his back like he did last year. Nice try… Favre won’t except a trade to the jets. He doesn’t want to have to carry a team on his back like he did last year.

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]]> By: omegalh http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62523 omegalh Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:18:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62523 also, the trade must be okay. its mostly about the Jets convincing Favre that he wants to be a Jet. they have everything but a right corner and a QB. And perhaps depth. also, the trade must be okay. its mostly about the Jets convincing Favre that he wants to be a Jet. they have everything but a right corner and a QB. And perhaps depth.

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]]> By: omegalh http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62522 omegalh Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:16:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62522 J E T S! JETS JETS JETS! J E T S! JETS JETS JETS!

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]]> By: 40for60 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62510 40for60 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:07:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62510 Hahah...that will be grand to see Favre in a Jets uniform. Cheapie Ted does is such a joke. Why he is a general manager I don't know but I love it. Time for a beer that I will have with a smile on my face thinking about the screwed up Packers. Go Lions. Hahah…that will be grand to see Favre in a Jets uniform. Cheapie Ted does is such a joke. Why he is a general manager I don’t know but I love it. Time for a beer that I will have with a smile on my face thinking about the screwed up Packers.

Go Lions.

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]]> By: remedy29 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62500 remedy29 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:58:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62500 I can not decide if this is a good thing or not. The Jets with Chad Pennington are already Playoff bound this year (despite what all the Jets haters say). The Jets have a solid team, but lack deep threat receiver's. I also think Favre will not be able to handle the New York media. The media will actually get on him and rip him when he throws bad interceptions. I can not decide if this is a good thing or not. The Jets with Chad Pennington are already Playoff bound this year (despite what all the Jets haters say). The Jets have a solid team, but lack deep threat receiver’s. I also think Favre will not be able to handle the New York media. The media will actually get on him and rip him when he throws bad interceptions.

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]]> By: CoryDangerous http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62499 CoryDangerous Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:58:47 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62499 "(Unless they meet in the Super Bowl.)" Florio FTW! “(Unless they meet in the Super Bowl.)”

Florio FTW!

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]]> By: gbbaby1 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62498 gbbaby1 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:56:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62498 Anyone that thinks Favre will agree to a trade to go to a 4-12 team in the Jets is an idiot. Favre will be the starting QB on Sept 8th for the Green Bay Packers. If he shows up he will beat out Rodgers. If he performs evenly with Rodgers in camp they would be foolish to not start Favre. Rodgers will have to completely outperform Brett to win the starting job and that will not happen. Welcome back Brett!!!! See you in Tampa! Anyone that thinks Favre will agree to a trade to go to a 4-12 team in the Jets is an idiot. Favre will be the starting QB on Sept 8th for the Green Bay Packers. If he shows up he will beat out Rodgers. If he performs evenly with Rodgers in camp they would be foolish to not start Favre. Rodgers will have to completely outperform Brett to win the starting job and that will not happen. Welcome back Brett!!!! See you in Tampa!

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]]> By: meekdog78 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62497 meekdog78 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:55:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62497 i thought last year the best storyline that could have possibly happened would have been packers/patriots in the superbowl...packers win...brett favre finds moss on the sidelines and says "i told you so." we came close to finding out if that could have happened. so here's the best possible story line that can come out of this favregate mess. favre goes to an afc team (currently at least has the appearance of a possibility with the jets). rodgers does well in gb, favre does well with his new team and they meet up for the superbowl. before the superbowl it looks like everyone was right...the ones who said favre could still play and the ones who said rodgers was ready. after the superbowl, one will be proven the better option. favre finds ted and mike on the sidelines after the game and one of them gets to say, "i told you so." not saying it will happen. but that would be the story of the year if it did. i thought last year the best storyline that could have possibly happened would have been packers/patriots in the superbowl…packers win…brett favre finds moss on the sidelines and says “i told you so.” we came close to finding out if that could have happened.

so here’s the best possible story line that can come out of this favregate mess. favre goes to an afc team (currently at least has the appearance of a possibility with the jets). rodgers does well in gb, favre does well with his new team and they meet up for the superbowl. before the superbowl it looks like everyone was right…the ones who said favre could still play and the ones who said rodgers was ready. after the superbowl, one will be proven the better option. favre finds ted and mike on the sidelines after the game and one of them gets to say, “i told you so.”

not saying it will happen. but that would be the story of the year if it did.

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]]> By: The Q-man http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62496 The Q-man Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:55:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62496 Goddell(I know it's Goodell)....thinks his divine interest in the Brett saga is that a New York team will get his lordness. Goddell(I know it’s Goodell)….thinks his divine interest in the Brett saga is that a New York team will get his lordness.

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]]> By: scorpion53061 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62494 scorpion53061 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:54:40 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62494 As a Packer fan, it was tough seeing Mike Holmgren leave Green Bay. We knew he wanted out the year before and it tarnished his reputation with Packer fans and even the players to some extent. But this situation is much worse. Let's say he stays, walks into camp and is handed the starting job. Veterans, who used to love Favre now tire of all the attention he gets and will chafe at the fact he missed all the minicamps and preperation preparing for a football season requires. The coach will look at him with disdain because of the "liar liar pants on fire" game they have been playing back and forth. (Yeah they haven't come out and called Brett a liar, but they may as well have.) The fans like us, who are saddened that a once great partnership with the man from Mississippi has now become the old boyfriend who won't go away. Every time he throws an interception, he should have retired, and the ugliness from them will just get much worse. Could the utterly impossible happen, and the air get so bad, that you might actually here fans boo him? And of course, when they go on the road, fans in those cities, already having made the franchise and himself a laughingstock, take their shots and enjoy it. Teams having been torched by Favre through the years extract their pound of flesh at his and the team's expense. I remember the 70's and 80's and we were a laughingstock cause we couldn't win. Now we will be even though we played in the NFC Championship last year. And of course, as we have seen with what distractions do to football teams...........the win loss record will suffer. And the kicker........Aaron Rodgers who I believe will be a great NFL QB, leaves in free agency because he feels betrayed by management. All that's left is a couple greenhorns that will need time to mature. And I don't want to go through the David Whitehurst experience again. (see Green Bay Packers 1979-1982) As many have said there is no good end to this. And the results will effect will have far more reach than just this problem of whether he plays or not. As a Packer fan, it was tough seeing Mike Holmgren leave Green Bay. We knew he wanted out the year before and it tarnished his reputation with Packer fans and even the players to some extent.

But this situation is much worse.

Let’s say he stays, walks into camp and is handed the starting job. Veterans, who used to love Favre now tire of all the attention he gets and will chafe at the fact he missed all the minicamps and preperation preparing for a football season requires. The coach will look at him with disdain because of the “liar liar pants on fire” game they have been playing back and forth. (Yeah they haven’t come out and called Brett a liar, but they may as well have.) The fans like us, who are saddened that a once great partnership with the man from Mississippi has now become the old boyfriend who won’t go away. Every time he throws an interception, he should have retired, and the ugliness from them will just get much worse. Could the utterly impossible happen, and the air get so bad, that you might actually here fans boo him? And of course, when they go on the road, fans in those cities, already having made the franchise and himself a laughingstock, take their shots and enjoy it. Teams having been torched by Favre through the years extract their pound of flesh at his and the team’s expense. I remember the 70’s and 80’s and we were a laughingstock cause we couldn’t win. Now we will be even though we played in the NFC Championship last year.
And of course, as we have seen with what distractions do to football teams………..the win loss record will suffer.

And the kicker……..Aaron Rodgers who I believe will be a great NFL QB, leaves in free agency because he feels betrayed by management. All that’s left is a couple greenhorns that will need time to mature. And I don’t want to go through the David Whitehurst experience again. (see Green Bay Packers 1979-1982)

As many have said there is no good end to this. And the results will effect will have far more reach than just this problem of whether he plays or not.

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]]> By: jdbaker01 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62492 jdbaker01 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:52:20 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62492 Mangini is looking to add more mangina. Mangini is looking to add more mangina.

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]]> By: Kevin from Philly http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62489 Kevin from Philly Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:50:21 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62489 A quick web search gave the Jets an estimated cap space of $8+ mil, so it's conceivable Favre could be squeezed in. It'd be interesting to see how fast the NY papers kill him the first time he launches one of his wounded ducks in the Meadowlands. Might take the heat off Eli when he has his post Super Bowl breakdown. Still, I'll beleive it when it happens. A quick web search gave the Jets an estimated cap space of $8+ mil, so it’s conceivable Favre could be squeezed in. It’d be interesting to see how fast the NY papers kill him the first time he launches one of his wounded ducks in the Meadowlands. Might take the heat off Eli when he has his post Super Bowl breakdown. Still, I’ll beleive it when it happens.

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]]> By: LuvThatDirtyWatah http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62487 LuvThatDirtyWatah Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:47:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62487 Gonna take NE for my FF defense if Favre lands there. Those picks returned for TD's will be worth quite a bit. Gonna take NE for my FF defense if Favre lands there. Those picks returned for TD’s will be worth quite a bit.

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]]> By: pack05 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62486 pack05 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:46:51 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62486 Well said, favrefromover!! The Packers plus Favre equals a very real chance at winning the Super Bowl. The Packers plus Rodgers equals...what? An unknown...maybe the playoffs...maybe only a handful of wins...who knows? Well said, favrefromover!! The Packers plus Favre equals a very real chance at winning the Super Bowl. The Packers plus Rodgers equals…what? An unknown…maybe the playoffs…maybe only a handful of wins…who knows?

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]]> By: LuvThatDirtyWatah http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62485 LuvThatDirtyWatah Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:44:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62485 The Jets are the first team to fall for the Packers/Bucs pump up the price? Tannebum and Mangini are such newbies. The Jets are the first team to fall for the Packers/Bucs pump up the price? Tannebum and Mangini are such newbies.

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62484 empty13 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:43:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62484 well, ffo... is bf willing to compete or is he still awaiting the red carpet? or will he veto a trade to any team but minnehaha? a qb who cant make up his mind may not be an asset after all. what is this talk of a rookie - is brohm the starter? well, ffo…

is bf willing to compete or is he still awaiting the red carpet?

or will he veto a trade to any team but minnehaha?

a qb who cant make up his mind may not be an asset after all.

what is this talk of a rookie - is brohm the starter?

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]]> By: irishpat http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62482 irishpat Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:42:38 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62482 Im still convinced the Bucs are just raising the price tag. I dont think they really want him. They just want to ensure that half their division (Panthers and Falcons) dont get him or pay out the @ss for him. Worst case scenario, the longer the bucs look interested, the higher the price and the longer the negotiations take place, making it more difficult for the Packers and their fans as well as giving Farve less time in camp to throw some ints. The media always links everyone to the bucs, because a) they never comment either way, which makes the agent always say they are interested to draw up actual interest b) they are impossible to read, look at the past couple drafts, no one would have guessed who they picked c) they arent afraid of veteran free agents d) they have more salary cap space than almost anyone e) its draw attention off of the jerrremy stevens pickup Im still convinced the Bucs are just raising the price tag. I dont think they really want him. They just want to ensure that half their division (Panthers and Falcons) dont get him or pay out the @ss for him.

Worst case scenario, the longer the bucs look interested, the higher the price and the longer the negotiations take place, making it more difficult for the Packers and their fans as well as giving Farve less time in camp to throw some ints.

The media always links everyone to the bucs, because
a) they never comment either way, which makes the agent always say they are interested to draw up actual interest
b) they are impossible to read, look at the past couple drafts, no one would have guessed who they picked
c) they arent afraid of veteran free agents
d) they have more salary cap space than almost anyone
e) its draw attention off of the jerrremy stevens pickup

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]]> By: ericpad http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62481 ericpad Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:40:19 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62481 Jets will get this deal done by Saturday Jets will get this deal done by Saturday

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]]> By: PHOOL http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62480 PHOOL Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:40:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62480 Brett Farve and Bubba Franks on the same team again Brett Farve and Bubba Franks on the same team again

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]]> By: ampats http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62478 ampats Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:34:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62478 Mike, unless they meet in the Super Bowl? And the price of gas next week will be $1.09 a gallon Mike, unless they meet in the Super Bowl? And the price of gas next week will be $1.09 a gallon

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]]> By: Acrobat http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62476 Acrobat Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:31:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62476 Looks like his Madden Curse will be in the form of the New England Patriots defense! Go Pack! Go Rodgers! Looks like his Madden Curse will be in the form of the New England Patriots defense!

Go Pack! Go Rodgers!

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]]> By: pantengeli http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62475 pantengeli Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:31:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62475 wow..... so i got one question... What do they do about the madden cover lol wow….. so i got one question… What do they do about the madden cover lol

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]]> By: Wrathchild http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62473 Wrathchild Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:30:33 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62473 "Unless they meet in the Super Bowl." LOL! “Unless they meet in the Super Bowl.”

LOL!

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]]> By: favrefromover http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62471 favrefromover Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:29:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/25/jets-get-permission-to-talk-to-favre/#comment-62471 Dear Mr. Thompson: Respectfully submitted, please consider the following prior to trading Brett Favre. Yesterday, Mike McCarthy said our goal this year is to "Win a World's Championship." If our goal is to win a world's championship, why would you consider adding a greater risk toward achieving our goal by not starting the most experienced and best talent at any position? In yesterday's wrap up Q&A, Mr. Murphy admitted that you believe the TEAM will compensate for any learning curve our QB may experience. Are you not taking an unnecessary risk in looking away from Brett Favre's experience? Perhaps if the "Team" played better last year, everyone would not look at the interception as the reason we lost to the Giants. Keep in mind, our TEAM, allowed them to tie the game and take us into overtime and win. And, if this year the team plays better as you must believe, better with the same QB, wouldn't that make us a better team? Is Aaron ready? You can answer this better than me, but as a former professional athlete I do know it's easier to perform when the spotlight is not on you. And it is in my experience that ONLY experience helps you maintain a high level of performance when the spot light turns on you. You seem to be looking away from experience, why? From an athlete's perspective, it is a completely different scenario to perform at a high level when all the expectations around you are set so high. Favre has lived with this for 16 years - Aaron Rodgers has never experienced anything close to what he is walking into. (And why is he walking into this role and not earning it like every other person on the team?) When all the game planning is built around you and you become the center of attention, Aaron's performance may suffer. With Brett, he is a known entity and we know what we can expect. This should be making your job easier, not more as you said yesterday, "Distressing." How will Aaron Rodgers hold up to the pressure? Maybe good, maybe not so good. But why when Brett Favre can still play, do we have to find out now? Over 4,000 yards, 28 TDs and a passer rating of 95.7 just last year. Are you working in the best interest of the team in helping us all achieve Mr. McCarthy's goal of winning a world championship by not allowing Brett Favre to compete for the starting role? I find it hard to believe we can consider ourselves contenders for any title with a rookie QB. Please be prudent in the next few days and do what is best for helping us achieve our goal of bringing the Lombardi trophy back home. Thank you! Dear Mr. Thompson:

Respectfully submitted, please consider the following prior to trading Brett Favre.
Yesterday, Mike McCarthy said our goal this year is to “Win a World’s Championship.”

If our goal is to win a world’s championship, why would you consider adding a greater risk toward achieving our goal by not starting the most experienced and best talent at any position?

In yesterday’s wrap up Q&A, Mr. Murphy admitted that you believe the TEAM will compensate for any learning curve our QB may experience.

Are you not taking an unnecessary risk in looking away from Brett Favre’s experience? Perhaps if the “Team” played better last year, everyone would not look at the interception as the reason we lost to the Giants. Keep in mind, our TEAM, allowed them to tie the game and take us into overtime and win. And, if this year the team plays better as you must believe, better with the same QB, wouldn’t that make us a better team?

Is Aaron ready? You can answer this better than me, but as a former professional athlete I do know it’s easier to perform when the spotlight is not on you. And it is in my experience that ONLY experience helps you maintain a high level of performance when the spot light turns on you. You seem to be looking away from experience, why?

From an athlete’s perspective, it is a completely different scenario to perform at a high level when all the expectations around you are set so high. Favre has lived with this for 16 years - Aaron Rodgers has never experienced anything close to what he is walking into. (And why is he walking into this role and not earning it like every other person on the team?)

When all the game planning is built around you and you become the center of attention, Aaron’s performance may suffer. With Brett, he is a known entity and we know what we can expect. This should be making your job easier, not more as you said yesterday, “Distressing.”

How will Aaron Rodgers hold up to the pressure? Maybe good, maybe not so good. But why when Brett Favre can still play, do we have to find out now? Over 4,000 yards, 28 TDs and a passer rating of 95.7 just last year.

Are you working in the best interest of the team in helping us all achieve Mr. McCarthy’s goal of winning a world championship by not allowing Brett Favre to compete for the starting role?
I find it hard to believe we can consider ourselves contenders for any title with a rookie QB.
Please be prudent in the next few days and do what is best for helping us achieve our goal of bringing the Lombardi trophy back home.

Thank you!

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