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Comments on: CAMPBELL WILL COACH AT WEST POINT http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:40:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: John Cittebart http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-62292 John Cittebart Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:52:06 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-62292 The bottom line is that the U.S. Army owns Caleb Campbell’s rights—not the Detroit Lions. And does it really a surprise us that the U.S. government’s left hand does not know what it’s right hand is doing? But Campbell knows the drill—and he’s lucky he owes the military two years of service instead of five because the new rule took effect in 2005—a year after he started attending West Point. He had fantastic football talent coming out of high school and could have obtained a scholarship at many universities but he chose West Point. The general public does not realize that students who drop out of West Point after a year or more, are obligated and serve time on active duty as enlisted soldiers as pay back. And Detroit knows the drill too—that’s why they drafted him in the 7th round. The bottom line is that the U.S. Army owns Caleb Campbell’s rights—not the Detroit Lions. And does it really a surprise us that the U.S. government’s left hand does not know what it’s right hand is doing?

But Campbell knows the drill—and he’s lucky he owes the military two years of service instead of five because the new rule took effect in 2005—a year after he started attending West Point. He had fantastic football talent coming out of high school and could have obtained a scholarship at many universities but he chose West Point. The general public does not realize that students who drop out of West Point after a year or more, are obligated and serve time on active duty as enlisted soldiers as pay back.

And Detroit knows the drill too—that’s why they drafted him in the 7th round.

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]]> By: 78thballothalloffamer http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-62237 78thballothalloffamer Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:45:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-62237 This whole thing is so odd. After the Pat Tillman scandal you'd think that a military facing a recruiting crisis would want to avoid more bad press all over ESPN. This whole thing is so odd. After the Pat Tillman scandal you’d think that a military facing a recruiting crisis would want to avoid more bad press all over ESPN.

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]]> By: 33243324 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-62094 33243324 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:27:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-62094 Once upon a time a QB named Roger was in a more dire situation and had to go to Vietnam, came back and did OK for himself in the NFL as a QB. If Campbell is close to half the talent he might do OK. Once upon a time a QB named Roger was in a more dire situation and had to go to Vietnam, came back and did OK for himself in the NFL as a QB. If Campbell is close to half the talent he might do OK.

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]]> By: BigD201 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-62082 BigD201 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:02:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-62082 Shame on the DoD for overruling the Army. Did they forget that we are currently at war in two countries on the other side of the world with an all volunteer Army? Giving people a reason not to enlist or not to go to a Military Academy is what a decision like this does. Is it really worth it in order to gain one more Graduate Assistant Coach at West Point? I can hardly wait till we start to hear about this fiasco in the Presidential Campaign. Shame on the DoD for overruling the Army. Did they forget that we are currently at war in two countries on the other side of the world with an all volunteer Army? Giving people a reason not to enlist or not to go to a Military Academy is what a decision like this does. Is it really worth it in order to gain one more Graduate Assistant Coach at West Point? I can hardly wait till we start to hear about this fiasco in the Presidential Campaign.

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]]> By: SevenDollarBologna http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-62044 SevenDollarBologna Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:39:58 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-62044 Man, this kid lucked out big time! (assuming he can make NFL* roster) Man, this kid lucked out big time! (assuming he can make NFL* roster)

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]]> By: korikill http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-62018 korikill Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:57:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-62018 no they don't ampats. He did not sign a contract, so he can be drafted again next year by any team. If he's NOT drafted again next year, he then becones a free-agent and can sign with ANY team. no they don’t ampats.
He did not sign a contract, so he can be drafted again next year by any team. If he’s NOT drafted again next year, he then becones a free-agent and can sign with ANY team.

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]]> By: Favre2012 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-62010 Favre2012 Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:48:20 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-62010 this is assuming the Army doesn't go back on it's word again... this is assuming the Army doesn’t go back on it’s word again…

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]]> By: malpow http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61998 malpow Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:34:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61998 Instead of making Campbell a coach, they could send him to Ranger school, and then send him to Afghanistan. Where he could get killed by friendly fire, and then they could cover it up, just like Pat Tillman. Playing in the NFL is a once in a lifetime opportunity, and if Campbell knew that he would not be allowed to do it, He probably wouldn't have gone to West Point. There are so many turds in the League. Goodell should do everything he can to bring in a non-turd. I hope that Goodell sues the DOD to get Campbell grandfathered in under the old policy. Let him play for a few years, then he can coach at West Point, or recruit, or go to Iraq. Instead of making Campbell a coach, they could send him to Ranger school, and then send him to Afghanistan. Where he could get killed by friendly fire, and then they could cover it up, just like Pat Tillman.

Playing in the NFL is a once in a lifetime opportunity, and if Campbell knew that he would not be allowed to do it, He probably wouldn’t have gone to West Point.

There are so many turds in the League. Goodell should do everything he can to bring in a non-turd. I hope that Goodell sues the DOD to get Campbell grandfathered in under the old policy. Let him play for a few years, then he can coach at West Point, or recruit, or go to Iraq.

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]]> By: apeck http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61990 apeck Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:28:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61990 If there is one thing that can be said of this whole fiasco, it is this: Campbell is handling this like a true gentleman. I suppose he can't really complain (beinga soldier and all), but he isn't showing any signs of malcontent or even frustration publicly. Seems like a good kid, a true "Marinelli Guy." Hope he gets a shot in a couple years and Detroit gets first dibs. What the NFL should do is tell Detroit they can have another 7th round pick OR first dibs on Campbell if/when he comes back. If there is one thing that can be said of this whole fiasco, it is this: Campbell is handling this like a true gentleman. I suppose he can’t really complain (beinga soldier and all), but he isn’t showing any signs of malcontent or even frustration publicly. Seems like a good kid, a true “Marinelli Guy.” Hope he gets a shot in a couple years and Detroit gets first dibs.

What the NFL should do is tell Detroit they can have another 7th round pick OR first dibs on Campbell if/when he comes back.

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]]> By: The Q-man http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61984 The Q-man Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:18:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61984 Screw Detroit, they got Matt Millen....they deserve everything they get. Screw Detroit, they got Matt Millen….they deserve everything they get.

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]]> By: ampats http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61980 ampats Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:16:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61980 They do Shukey. Ever hear of a QB by the name of Roger Staubach?? He was a Navy grad ,completed his service & had a very successful career in Dallas. They do Shukey. Ever hear of a QB by the name of Roger Staubach?? He was a Navy grad ,completed his service & had a very successful career in Dallas.

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]]> By: minnybacker http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61970 minnybacker Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:06:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61970 not that i agree with the DoD, i think this is horseshit. but he knew when he signe on at the Academy what he was up against. and that education he recieved is money in the bank. don't cry too long for him. not that i agree with the DoD, i think this is horseshit. but he knew when he signe on at the Academy what he was up against. and that education he recieved is money in the bank. don’t cry too long for him.

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]]> By: samh http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61962 samh Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:59:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61962 If Campbell signed a contract, then I believe the Lions would retain his rights or he'd be a FA... I think he would only have to re-enter the draft if he didn't sign a contract after being drafted. The Lions should probably get a 7th-round compensatory pick, imo. If Campbell signed a contract, then I believe the Lions would retain his rights or he’d be a FA… I think he would only have to re-enter the draft if he didn’t sign a contract after being drafted.

The Lions should probably get a 7th-round compensatory pick, imo.

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]]> By: mikemboston http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61948 mikemboston Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:31:40 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61948 What a debacle this became, but is anyone really suprised. I'm not going to argue one way or the other if a player like Campbell should be aloud to pursue an NFL career. The fact that Department of Defense over ruled the Army is just an outright disgrace. You make a decision and you stick to it. You don't just jerk someone around like that and play with their emotions. It would take an idiot to not see the value of an Army guy playing in the NFL and spending his free time recruiting other young men to join and hope for the same dream. When is the last time a military team has been any good besides the pass happy Airforce team in the WAC? It's like the DOD would rather win a pissing contest than do what's best for the country...wait that sounds familiar, I guess it all starts at the top doesn't it. What a debacle this became, but is anyone really suprised. I’m not going to argue one way or the other if a player like Campbell should be aloud to pursue an NFL career. The fact that Department of Defense over ruled the Army is just an outright disgrace. You make a decision and you stick to it. You don’t just jerk someone around like that and play with their emotions.

It would take an idiot to not see the value of an Army guy playing in the NFL and spending his free time recruiting other young men to join and hope for the same dream. When is the last time a military team has been any good besides the pass happy Airforce team in the WAC? It’s like the DOD would rather win a pissing contest than do what’s best for the country…wait that sounds familiar, I guess it all starts at the top doesn’t it.

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]]> By: TxPacker http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61947 TxPacker Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:27:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61947 Since the Lions chose him in the draft, do they retain the rights for him to use when he becomes eligible, or will they be compensated for the wasted pick? Also, will this now make West Point football players an entity teams will not choose in the future? It would seem the Government may be starting another Favre episode. Will they change their mind in a couple months?! Since the Lions chose him in the draft, do they retain the rights for him to use when he becomes eligible, or will they be compensated for the wasted pick?

Also, will this now make West Point football players an entity teams will not choose in the future?

It would seem the Government may be starting another Favre episode. Will they change their mind in a couple months?!

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]]> By: cliffclav http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61946 cliffclav Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:27:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61946 So what happens to Detroit? Will they get an extra pick next year? are they out of luck for drafting someone from the military. Or will they have dibbs on campbell when he becomes available? So what happens to Detroit? Will they get an extra pick next year? are they out of luck for drafting someone from the military. Or will they have dibbs on campbell when he becomes available?

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]]> By: longdarkface http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61945 longdarkface Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:26:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61945 It didn't seem like the Army was interested in screwing this guy over. The DOD seemed to be the ones pulling the rug out from under him. It didn’t seem like the Army was interested in screwing this guy over. The DOD seemed to be the ones pulling the rug out from under him.

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]]> By: shukey11 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61944 shukey11 Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:23:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61944 I believe the nfl should put in place a system in wich any military personel drafted should be able have the team hold their contracts or draft rights until thier service commitment is finished. its not like every year a player from army navy or the airforce is drafted. I believe the nfl should put in place a system in wich any military personel drafted should be able have the team hold their contracts or draft rights until thier service commitment is finished. its not like every year a player from army navy or the airforce is drafted.

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]]> By: Kolb4President http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61943 Kolb4President Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:20:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61943 Did West Point really need another reason for those with athletic talent to shun their instituion? Showing Campbell trying to make the pros does more for their football program than his advice will help on the field. Why not make him agree to come back to coach after he could no longer make a team, while keeping the tenure requirement? Surely, he would have jumped at that opportunity. Did West Point really need another reason for those with athletic talent to shun their instituion?
Showing Campbell trying to make the pros does more for their football program than his advice will help on the field. Why not make him agree to come back to coach after he could no longer make a team, while keeping the tenure requirement? Surely, he would have jumped at that opportunity.

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]]> By: Ches http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61941 Ches Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:17:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/24/campbell-will-coach-at-west-point/#comment-61941 It's really to bad for him. At least he won't be overseas. It’s really to bad for him.
At least he won’t be overseas.

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