We reported last week that the Packers believe they have sufficient evidence to prove that the Vikings tampered with quarterback Brett Favre. We also shared an unconfirmed rumor we’d heard that Favre had been using a team-issued cell phone, and that call logs obtained by the team showed multiple calls to/from Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell and at least one to or from head coach Brad Childress.
The Bob McGinn item we mentioned earlier in the day puts some meat on that bone. As quoted by the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, McGinn writes for the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that Favre was using a team-issued cell phone, and that the records show calls with Bevell and Childress.
As one league insider told us in the wake of last week’s rumor-based item to this effect, the fact that Favre was using a team-issued cell phone at any time during his career with the Packers would be a violation of the salary cap rules, unless the value of the phone was included within Favre’s total cap number.
It’s not an issue after Favre retired, since his salary is off the books and the Packers can pay him whatever they want. But it’s definitely an issue if Favre was using the phone while an active member of the roster, and if the team didn’t account for the value of that perk in its cap calculations.
If the Packers get in trouble, it could be a small price to pay for the ability to gather hand-in-the-cookie-jar evidence of tampering. Then again, if this is something that went on for years with Favre and other players, the Packers might wish in the end that they’d just let the whole thing go.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:02 pm
That additional $45 a month is going to bust the salary cap?
Also, shouldn’t there be a plug for Sprint in this thread somewhere?
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Great point, Florio…Favre might’ve been racking up millions and millions of dollars in cell phone charges each year. It’s a problem many of us with teenage children face.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Brett Please go away!
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:15 pm
I have an idea. How about we just pick up Wisconsin and throw it into the middle of the Atlantic so we don’t have to read about this crap anymore? It’s one thing after another.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:16 pm
On a local sports radio show here in Wisconsin a Packers beat writer made it sound like all the players have one of these team issued cell phones. That sounds more like a fringe benefit than a salary cap violation, and I would imagine there are limitations. That’s probably why it so easy to track and so stupid by Favre.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:16 pm
So typical - the guy makes tens of millions of dollars through his career, and he doesn’t want to pay his own telephone bill. Just a good ol’ boy.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Yes, but as you already reported, they can talk about anything they want, except for trade proposals and the like. It’s pretty damning evidence, but you can’t prove what they talked about just from cell phone records.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:28 pm
I can’t honestly see the Packers getting in real trouble if they hand out cell phones to every player…..
Are there situations where teams have gotten caught handing out extra gear, extra food or extra tickets that would be equal the $$ that phone plans would have? What was their punishment….did they even get a letter of reprimand?
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:36 pm
The issue isn’t that the cell phone would have put the Packers over the cap… but that they didn’t report it to the NFL. It is, therefore, a violation. Would it be OK if they lied about a player’s salary, as long as it didn’t put them over the cap?
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:39 pm
FREE BRETT FAVRE (CELL PHONE SERVICES)!!!
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Florio, you missed a perfect opportunity to push Sprint’s Simply Everything plan!!!
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Newsflash! The cellphone WOULD NOT have to count against the salary cap! It is a team issued phone, a phone owned by the team, not given to Favre, but loaned to Favre. If a team can’t give their employees a phone then the players would be able to miss meetings, oversleep, etc. Charging the Packers or any other team for giving their players loaner cellphones might cause us to look at all other aspects of player benefits. Should we deduct the gas used by the team plane to and from games from the salary cap? Should the player’s contracts include tickets and fare for the bus from the hotel to the stadium? Should the players be charged a membership fee for working out at the team facility gym?
Many corporations give their employees cellphones so their employees can be at their beckon call and yet nowhere in those employees’ tax records do loaner phones appear. You’re way off base here, Florio.
NFL teams are well within their rights to clothe, feed, transport and loan cellphones to their players without having salary cap implications.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:44 pm
You guys are missing the forest for the trees. It’s not that a cell phone bill isn’t expensive, it’s that added bonuses that are not accounted for in a player’s salary is a violation of the salary cap.
This is why Florio wrote “it’s a small price to pay for the ability to gather hand-in-the-cookie-jar evidence of tampering.”
This isn’t TMZ-like at all. PFT is one of the few sports media outlets not concerning itself with stupid top 10 lists, or overselling Fantasy Football right now. It is delving into the stories of the day and providing intrigue.
Good find, Mike! Keep up the good work!
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:50 pm
So, if Sprint was the official provider of Green Bay Packers players, would you have posted this Florio?
Darn Mike Sherman and Cellcom…
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:51 pm
is this a joke? this whining and bitching about the smallest infractions is becoming pitiful.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:54 pm
yeah…pretty damning evidence considering the 49ers getting hit with a 3rd rounder for emails with Briggs’ agent from what I understand…this is a LITTLE bit more important (1st ballot HOFer up against a Lamborghini crashing over-rated over-paid teddy bear)…TAKE AWAY SOME PICKS…except for AD, their last 5 years of 1st rounders have not panned out…so I guess they wont be out too much.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Notice the article states that Brett called Bevell and Childress, NOT the other way around. Hard to prove anything when Brett was the one initiating the conversation. What are they supposed to do? Hang up on him? Good luck making that one stick.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 6:02 pm
NFL players love the freebee stuff. They will take anything that is free….legally.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 6:10 pm
It does not matter if the price of the cell phone bill would bust the Packer’s cap or not. If it isn’t listed against the cap, and it was used by Favre, then it is a violation regardless of the amount, or if it busted the cap, as it is an unaccounted for perk. They must list all these things towards the cap, or it is a violation. I hate to bring up spygate again, but there is a parallel. It did not matter if the Patriots benefited a little, a lot, or if the taping of coaches signals actually hurt the Pats. The league says it is against the rules, and so they were punished. In the same respect it does not matter that if they had actually counted the cell phone against the cap, it would not have put them over. The mere fact is that if he was using a team issued phone as a perk while he was under contract and it WASN’T listed, means it is a violation.
However, I doubt this will go anywhere. The league will not likely come down on the beloved Favre and the Packers any more than it would the Jets or the Giants.
Also, there is no evidence that he was using the phone while under contract with the Packers. Until there is, this is a moot issue.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Isn’t this getting “a little” out of hand here?
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July 22nd, 2008 at 6:12 pm
I have a company-provided cell phone, and I don’t consider it a benefit. In fact, I consider it a *responsibility* because I have to answer it whenever my boss or a client calls at odd hours. It would be easy for the Packers to argue that the phones are provided to players so that coaches can contact them 24×7.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 6:16 pm
“Hi this is Brett Favre, call me anytime. we can talk about fishing, tractors, or Tampa 2 defense and west coast offense.”
The commercials and PR opportunities don’t count against the cap either, but there are always perks for the face of the franchise.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 6:19 pm
He had roll-over minutes from last year’s playoff games when he rolled over for the Giants weak secondary.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 6:19 pm
#88 was taken in 2002 by Ike Hilliard.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Team cell phones for the players? What else? Team cars? Team houses?
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