Comments on: TOP ROOKIE PAY CONTINUES TO RISE http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:38:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: bestdayz http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-60642 bestdayz Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:47:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-60642 Your market argument is only partially applicable....keep in mind that most sports leagues are anti-trust organizations that share revenue and collude on most major decisions.....so not very market free..... when i see a couple of guys getting 20 mill in guarantees thats one thing...but the entire top10 now gets that much... there should scaled pay but the contracts offered can vary.....this way it protects the cap and it also the player who is not locked into a deal taht is below his pay grade for too long.....of course if you choose the lesser years you are gambling that you will be an instant star or starter or veyr good....and if you're not you don't have the cushion...perhaps it would light a fire under many a rooks arses knowing that they have to play for the 2nd contract.....if they got drafted outside the top 10.... Your market argument is only partially applicable….keep in mind that most sports leagues are anti-trust organizations that share revenue and collude on most major decisions…..so not very market free…..

when i see a couple of guys getting 20 mill in guarantees thats one thing…but the entire top10 now gets that much…

there should scaled pay but the contracts offered can vary…..this way it protects the cap and it also the player who is not locked into a deal taht is below his pay grade for too long…..of course if you choose the lesser years you are gambling that you will be an instant star or starter or veyr good….and if you’re not you don’t have the cushion…perhaps it would light a fire under many a rooks arses knowing that they have to play for the 2nd contract…..if they got drafted outside the top 10….

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]]> By: E-Nasty http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59514 E-Nasty Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:25:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59514 @ iron_city - AMEN @ iron_city - AMEN

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]]> By: iron_city http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59417 iron_city Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:02:26 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59417 Nobody is holding a "gun to anyone's head", moron. It's what the market is bearing. If the team's didn't pay it, where would the draftees get their money from? Who else would pay them besides an an NFL team - the government? You jackasses. Nobody is holding a “gun to anyone’s head”, moron. It’s what the market is bearing. If the team’s didn’t pay it, where would the draftees get their money from? Who else would pay them besides an an NFL team - the government? You jackasses.

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]]> By: moonbeam http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59366 moonbeam Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:34:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59366 when you watch a nfl game,check out the corporate seats, see how many kids are jumping around,are these corporate clients?nooo. i think the irs is going to get the idea that these seats are not really being used for business deductions,but for personal use.when the irs comes to this conclusion,watch for how many seats go on the market. it's ludicris that the middle class in america is shouldering the tax burden for a bunch of fat cats. and who ever gets elected in november will just pass it all off as business as usual,if you don't have to,why upset the people who use the seats,they're contributors. when you watch a nfl game,check out the corporate seats,
see how many kids are jumping around,are these corporate
clients?nooo.
i think the irs is going to get the idea that these seats
are not really being used for business deductions,but for
personal use.when the irs comes to this conclusion,watch
for how many seats go on the market.
it’s ludicris that the middle class in america is
shouldering the tax burden for a bunch of fat cats.
and who ever gets elected in november will just pass
it all off as business as usual,if you don’t have to,why
upset the people who use the seats,they’re contributors.

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]]> By: Tim http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59350 Tim Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:09:50 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59350 I would love to see an owner draft a player then refuse to sign him to one of these deals. Let him sit on the shelf for a year with no income and see how high he goes the next draft. F - it. It doesn't pay to give that much money to an unproven player. I would love to see an owner draft a player then refuse to sign him to one of these deals. Let him sit on the shelf for a year with no income and see how high he goes the next draft.

F - it. It doesn’t pay to give that much money to an unproven player.

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]]> By: doclobster http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59342 doclobster Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:27:33 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59342 "literally holding guns to the owners’ and GM’s heads?" I hate people who say "literally" as if it has no meaning. “literally holding guns to the owners’ and GM’s heads?”

I hate people who say “literally” as if it has no meaning.

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]]> By: stanjam http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59335 stanjam Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:16:39 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59335 Nice to be a rookie in the NFL! If you have the talent to go in a top round, you automatically get enough money guaranteed to live the rest of your life in luxury, never wanting for anything or worried about your monetary security (well, as long as you don't blow it all or land in jail). All this without ever having to worry about producing. Where is the incentive to play well? Nice to be a rookie in the NFL! If you have the talent to go in a top round, you automatically get enough money guaranteed to live the rest of your life in luxury, never wanting for anything or worried about your monetary security (well, as long as you don’t blow it all or land in jail). All this without ever having to worry about producing.

Where is the incentive to play well?

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]]> By: bwnyc http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59328 bwnyc Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:57:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59328 Not only are the top rookies getting out of control, but the gap between the top picks and second, third, fourth rounders is getting wider and wider. Considering it's largely a crap shoot anyway, it's no wonder you see teams like the Eagles trading out of the first round year after year. Not only are the top rookies getting out of control, but the gap between the top picks and second, third, fourth rounders is getting wider and wider. Considering it’s largely a crap shoot anyway, it’s no wonder you see teams like the Eagles trading out of the first round year after year.

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]]> By: CoryDangerous http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59326 CoryDangerous Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:55:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59326 2 years from now, when Tebow graduates, he'll be getting $100m+ with a $50m signing bonus. 2 years from now, when Tebow graduates, he’ll be getting $100m+ with a $50m signing bonus.

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]]> By: Ilovethiscrap http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59318 Ilovethiscrap Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:25:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59318 Look for this to be a HUGE item in this upcoming labor dispute. This could be a show-stopper if the Players Association balks at all. If it were up to me, I would say follow what the NBA does with it's rookies as far as thier first contract. make it manageable and guarantee ALL moneys in the rookie contract with something I like to call a "HOOK". after their 3rd year, a DRAFTED player can use his "HOOK" to force the owner to the table. Nothing says the owner has to give a bigger contract, but at least sit down and give a fair evaluation. If the owner/player don't come to an agreement, then the Rookie can opt out of the remainder of the contract. Look for this to be a HUGE item in this upcoming labor dispute. This could be a show-stopper if the Players Association balks at all. If it were up to me, I would say follow what the NBA does with it’s rookies as far as thier first contract. make it manageable and guarantee ALL moneys in the rookie contract with something I like to call a “HOOK”. after their 3rd year, a DRAFTED player can use his “HOOK” to force the owner to the table. Nothing says the owner has to give a bigger contract, but at least sit down and give a fair evaluation. If the owner/player don’t come to an agreement, then the Rookie can opt out of the remainder of the contract.

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]]> By: rs691919@yahoo.com http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59313 rs691919@yahoo.com Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:07:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/21/top-rookie-pay-continues-to-rise/#comment-59313 The NFL definitely needs to put a stop to this. These rookies and their agents are literally holding guns to the owners' and GM's heads and forcing them at gunpoint to sign these outrageous contracts. Maybe the FBI should also get involved to stop these wanton acts of crime. The NFL definitely needs to put a stop to this. These rookies and their agents are literally holding guns to the owners’ and GM’s heads and forcing them at gunpoint to sign these outrageous contracts. Maybe the FBI should also get involved to stop these wanton acts of crime.

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