The New York Jets have upped the ante with tight end Chris Baker in their protracted contract squabble.
A month after Baker didn’t practice during a mandatory minicamp because of an allegedly bad back, the Jets have placed him on the Physically Unable to Perform List due to the supposed injury.
Asked if the move, which as a practical matter bars Baker from training camp practices until he is removed from the list, was related to the dispute, agent Jonathan Feinsod said, “No comment, no comment, no comment.”
Last year, the Jets were dealing with another disgruntled veteran, Pete Kendall. The dispute between player and team got ugly during camp, with Kendall alleging that the Jets were trying to get under his skin by, for example, assigning him to the rookie dorm. Kendall eventually was traded to the Redskins.
This time around, keeping Baker out of practice could keep Baker from disrupting the team. But, if he truly isn’t injured or if any past injury has healed, Baker should be able to challenge the PUP designation through a grievance.
Baker is the third veteran player, including Kendall and receiver Laveranues Coles, to claim that the team broke promises to adjust their contracts. Baker was explicit in June regarding his criticism.
“Guys are definitely concerned about it,” Baker said . “I can guarantee you after this is all said and done there will be someone out here going through the same thing next year and the following year because of the way things are handled here.
“My advice to guys would be if you’re going to do anything, as far as with this organization, get it in writing, because things may be said with a wink and then the next thing you know they say something has been misconstrued. This is three times and, like I said, this is going to continue to happen.”
As a commenter pointed out in response to one of our Jeremy Shockey stories from earlier in the day, a trade of Baker from the Jets to the Giant could make a lot of sense.
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July 21st, 2008 at 11:19 pm
If “a lot of sense” means “the Giants trading for another headache they don’t need, just cause it’s an easy thing to write/predict,” then, yeah, it makes a lot of sense. He’s a dime a dozen TE, I don’t think Reese is that stupid. Course, Reese waited way too long to trade Shockey, so maybe last year Reese just got lucky.
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July 21st, 2008 at 11:47 pm
I just realized Aaron Rodgers was at the ESPYs simply to be talked to about the Favre situation…
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July 22nd, 2008 at 12:50 am
Does nyone think it was Bakers first agent that messed this up? I mean Baker did fire him, right?
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July 22nd, 2008 at 1:04 am
Baker took himself out of several practices during minicamp, claiming back problems. Good call by Mangini and Tannenbaum to call his bluff. I’d fully support a trade, to the Giants or anyone else. Baker’s a mediocre TE and his contract demands are legitimately mystifying to me…I honestly don’t know what he thinks he’s done to deserve a raise.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 1:23 am
You know what else would make a lot of sense? Baker going anywhere in the NFL, because only 5 teams have a legitimate tight end…
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July 22nd, 2008 at 1:31 am
Somehow, this must be the Pats fault…lol
Karma’s a bitch , Mangenius.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 2:19 am
Isn’t placing a player on PUp when they are not truly injured some sort of violation? I think I remember something about that. For years people (players, other teams, etc.) have been complaining about the Jets violating league rules, from taping to practice violations. Interesting that no serious investigations never ensue. Of course, they aren’t the Patriots, are they? And with the “commish” being a former employee, I guess they can play fast and loose with the rules all they want!
If not an actual violation, at the very least this is yet another example of the crappy way the Jets and Mangini go about their business. If you have a problem, they will do everything they can to destroy you. When they are done water boarding you, they will trade your carcass away to another team. And they wonder why they don’t get anywhere?
Pay homage to Czar Mangini! OR ELSE!
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July 22nd, 2008 at 2:26 am
something smells rotten in Denmark.
I wonder if the Bengals will use the same strategy as the jets for Chad.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 5:55 am
dick v says:
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:26 am
something smells rotten in Denmark.
I wonder if the Bengals will use the same strategy as the jets for Chad.
Dick V thinks the Tight End Situation
“smells rotten.” Won’t go further with that.
Anyhow, we could make use of Baker in
Baltimore. We have placed two TEs on IR.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 7:20 am
No way that Baker will win an appeal. He is injured. His brain is injured for doing this crap.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 7:54 am
stanjam: The Pats accused the Jets of illegally taping but the Jets had permission to tape where they were taping from. The Pats whined about tampering w/ deion Branch but nothing ever came from it. It’s funny seeing a Pats fan whine about the league coming down on them when they essentially got a slap on the wrist w/ the spygate issue. The Pats get the benefit of the doubt in every issue.
As far as Baker goes, this man was a FA just 2 years ago. he had the opportunity to sign w/ any team for whatever $ he could get but no one would pay him except the Jets. I like Chris,he’s a good player BUT he’s not worth these headaches. He’s not in the same situation as Kendall and he’s not as important. He had his chance to make his money but he didn’t get offers, that’s not the fault of the Jets.
W/ regards to seeing Coles in this report as a player who accused the Jets of lying, Coles GOT his new deal so he shouldn’t be on that list of disgruntled players. Kerry Rhodes also got a new deal as did jerricho Cotchery and Bryan Thomas. If they want to keep players they pay them, Baker is expendable, they felt Kendall was expendable(although it made them have to pay through the roof for Faneca this year) so they weren’t willing to renegotiate w/ those players.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 9:02 am
Gueeze, how can you question Ratgini’s motives? He wouldn’t falsify an injury report? He’s such a Boyscout, a real life hero to many in NY! The man that almost brought down the Patriots Dynasty! Surely, Mr. Rat wouldn’t do anything unethical?
The fact is he learned all those “rules interpetations from the Master, Bill Belichick!” See the Ratboy wants it both ways! He wants to be his own man, but everything he does Belichick has already done it! Now he’s playing games with the injury report and tip toeing the line of what acceptable. Next thing you know, we’ll find out the Jets have been taping too! Wait, we already know he’s as guilty as BB, he just couldn’t figure out how the tapes helped…So the NY mafia known as the NFL Headquarters got together and decided to get BB. They almost succeeded, almost!
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July 22nd, 2008 at 9:35 am
nyjunc: you must be a Jets fan. That would explain how you can clearly ignore that the majority of the League office is a bunch of Jets fans and the ones that aren’t are Giants fans. Those two teams have a completely different set of rules than the other 32. Do you actually think the NFL will look into this and find a problem? No chance.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 9:42 am
The Physically UNWILLING to Perform List.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 9:46 am
I love how Pats fans all absolve belichick and blame Mangini. Mangini wasn’t the guy who was warned not to tape anymore but then defied league orders and did it anyway and maybe if Belichick wasn’t such a jerk to mangini it wouldn’t have been reported?
If the league office wanted to get belichick he would havce been suspended for a year and not slapped on the wrist w/ money that to him is pocket change and stripping a 1st rd pick in a year they had 2 1st rounders. They could have at least taken the top 10 pick you had, the Pats always get the benefit of the doubt and you should appreciate that instead of whining about how the Pats were treated after they were caught cheating.
Is it strange for someone who was mentored by a coahc to emulate what they did? Belichick does alot of the things Bill Parcells did and if mangini has success coaches under him will try to emulate his style. That’s the way things work.
By the way, the Patriots dynasty has been over. It’s been 4 years since your last SB- they don’t put dynasties on hold.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 9:58 am
Mangini and Tannenbaum are playing a dangerous game. First, they do some real bush league stuff with Pete Kendall (”accidentally” putting him in the rookie dorms, playing him into the fourth quarter in the second preseason game when all the other veteran starters had been long out of the game, moving him to back up center eventhough they had no replacement for him at starting left guard).
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July 22nd, 2008 at 10:00 am
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Then, they promise to redo Coles contract and reneg. Now they are playing with Baker. That is three players they promised something and renegged.
Unless the Jets turn around their woes quickly, Mangini and Tannenbaum will lose the team. It is one thing to treat players like crap and win, but no player will put up with ownership treating them like crap and still lose.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 10:01 am
Coutre: I am going to bill you for a new computer. I just spit out my drink all over my computer. The League office is full of Jet fans? What do you have to base this on? No team has been screwed more often than the Jets over the years and no team has gotten more breaks this decade than your Pats. Be thankful NE was only slapped on the wrist for the spygate scandal and be thankful they destroyed the tapes or else you guys would have really been screwed but the Pats are the darlings of the League and have been for quite some time.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 10:16 am
Why don’t you call up the league office and ask? There are at least 10 former Jets employees at the league office, including the commish. There are probably another 50 employees that have Jets season tickets. There is an unbelievable amount of bias in favor of the Jets and Giants.
You should put a child proof spill cover on your cup if you are going to spill it so easily.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 10:31 am
They Jets seem to be quite childish regarding their contract situation.
This just in, the Jets sent the league office a note reading: “Do you like me? Yes, No, Maybe.”
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July 22nd, 2008 at 10:49 am
@Robo
Good point, except:
1. The Jets didn’t renege on any promise to Coles. They negotiated with him and then guaranteed the final 2 years of his contract–which is pretty generous considering his age and recent injury history.
2. Why do you assume these players are telling the truth? Just because they claim the front office lied to them doesn’t make it so. Right now it’s a case of he said/he said.
The Kendall situation was handled very, very poorly, with disastrous results, and Mangini and Tannenbaum should be taken to task for it. But they rewarded Coles for being a warrior, and now they’re refusing to give in to the demands of a mediocre TE who, as nyjunc said, actually tested the FA market 2 years ago–and got NO OFFERS.
Oh, and as for everyone bitching about the Jets “faking” an injury: Mike conveniently left out that Baker pulled himself from multiple practices during minicamp, claiming back pain. You play with fire, you get burned, Baker.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 10:50 am
nyjunc,
It is generally believed the league offices have a NY bias (both Jets and Giants) and that was a belief long before the Spygate stuff. Goodell grew up in Bronxville, NY and interned with the Jets in 1983. He does have ties to the Jets. I have no idea if Goodell has any biases towards or against other teams, but him having a bias towards the Jets isn’t as crazy an idea as you make it out to be. I would like to think as Commissioner, he puts his biases aside from all rulings, but who knows. Even Peter King wrote that Goodell was in particular upset that Belichick taped signals in his backyard in NY.
Also, the Pats did not get a lienent punishment. They got the worst punishment any team has ever gotten for a relatively minor crime no matter how much people want blow it up since stealing signals is a part of the game, but videotaping them isn’t.
As a Pats fan, I am pissed that they destroyed the tapes. According to many sources and reported by Fox Sports, those tapes had evidence of other teams cheating. If true, that helped other teams. The fact they destroyed the tapes which obviously had nothing other than what we already know. Why would the Pats offer up evidence of other cheating assuming they did anything else when all evidence was handed over volutarily and Belichick’s response was that he misinterpreted the rule? If Belichick offered up a bogusly rumored videotape of the Rams’ walkthrough, how could he claim to Goodell that it was a misinterpretation of the rules.
The supposive addition evidence of other cheating on the videotapes destroyed is just figments of the imagination of Patriots haters and conspiracy theorists minds. Even if there were other instances of the Pats cheating (which considering the intense media scrutiny and desperation to dig up evidence of other cheating by the Pats, doesn’t exist), it defies logic to believe the Pats would have given it to Goodell in the first place. At least evidence of other teams cheating by videotaping the Pats’ sidelines is at least plausible to support Belichick’s argument that he misinterpreted the rule.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 10:57 am
Robo:
They gave Coles a new deal. The problem was kendall who renegotiated in ‘06 b/c the Jets were going to release him and he wouldn’t have been able to make as much anywhere else. Then he wanted his money back. The Baker stuff is pure nonsense. Why on Earth would the Jets promise him a new deal when he just signed a new deal 2 years ago? he had his chance at FA, no teams wanted to pay him so why would the Jets in a position of strength sign him then promise him more money? I like Chirs, he’s a good player but he’s replaceable. This is not like losing Kendall a year ago.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 11:23 am
Coutre: B/c there are former Jets employees at the League office dosn’t mean the Jets get special tratment. There is not a team that has been screwed more over the years than the Jets. Whether it was blown calls, compensatory picks, the Chad Morton dispute,… The list goes on and on.
Robo: It may have been the biggest penalty to date BUT why did they destroy the tapes? The Pats were warned not to do it again after being caught multiple times. They spit in the Commish’s face and he dealt w/ it. He easily could have suspended Belichcik or taken away their top 10 pick instead of the #31 pick.
Don’t use Peter King as a source, he’s the biggest Pats homer in the media. This guy doesn’t even think Rodney Harrison is a dirty player.
The Pats got off light, I am sure other teams cheated as well but they didn’t get caught b/c they were smart about it. The Pats were wanred after being caught a few times and they kept doing it. That’s the Pats fault, I’m not sure how much the taping helped then though I’m sure it must have helped if they kept doing it. I am not a patriots hater that thinks they deserve an *, I have admired the Pats oorganization until recent times but they have been getting special treatment from the League and the media for years. it finally caught up to them last year but that’s what happens when you win as much as they have.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 11:34 am
nyjunc,
Wow, you have a serious case of Patriot envy don’t you? There is always an “excuse” as to why the Jets are clean, yes? Are you really telling me that the Jets aren’t breaking rules and bending arms? Please. If you think your team is innocent, you might want to watch a game like Tennis, because there isn’t a team in the league that is clean. Just so happens that the Jets appear to be dirtier than most, and could care less about their players.
Oh, and the Jets taping? Yeah, they say they were given permission to tape, but not to tape the coaches, ok? And how many players and other teams need to file complaints before a NY fan will admit there is something going on? The only thing you need not worry about is that your team gets in trouble, because Goodell is a former Jets employee. Oh, and I am sure that Ratgini has enough dirt to blackmail the Jets, so he should be your coach for many years! Enjoy him.
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