Comments on: TROY SMITH TO START FOR THE RAVENS? http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:29:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: NonYahooHotmailAcct http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-59783 NonYahooHotmailAcct Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:55:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-59783 And the refusal to give Kyle Boller a legit chance continues... They put him in an awful situation last year, and he was the best QB on the roster then, and STILL IS. And the refusal to give Kyle Boller a legit chance continues…

They put him in an awful situation last year, and he was the best QB on the roster then, and STILL IS.

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]]> By: skaybaltimore http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-59246 skaybaltimore Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:50:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-59246 I'm with Nixon and Miz. Mike -- you really dropped the ball on this one. I’m with Nixon and Miz. Mike — you really dropped the ball on this one.

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]]> By: Kevin from Philly http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-59117 Kevin from Philly Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:40:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-59117 History lesson: Ohio State QB gets drafted late, shows a little something and gets promoted to start the following season. The name? Bobby Hoying. The result? 2-14, coach fired, Eagles hire Andy Reid and draft McNabb. Maybe you'll get the second part, but I'm guessing all you get is the 2-14 part. History lesson:

Ohio State QB gets drafted late, shows a little something and gets promoted to start the following season. The name? Bobby Hoying. The result? 2-14, coach fired, Eagles hire Andy Reid and draft McNabb. Maybe you’ll get the second part, but I’m guessing all you get is the 2-14 part.

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]]> By: theduke http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-59073 theduke Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:52:10 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-59073 The funniest part of this comparison is that the Ravens would have never been in a Browns like "pickle" had they not waived Browns starting QB Derrick Anderson! Have to agree with the majority here though, this and many other teams would love to be in the Browns' shoes. Only problem for the Ravens is I think they may have 3 Fryes and not 1 Anderson or Quinn. Not to mention they don't have a Braylon Edwards to help any of their cases. The funniest part of this comparison is that the Ravens would have never been in a Browns like “pickle” had they not waived Browns starting QB Derrick Anderson!

Have to agree with the majority here though, this and many other teams would love to be in the Browns’ shoes. Only problem for the Ravens is I think they may have 3 Fryes and not 1 Anderson or Quinn. Not to mention they don’t have a Braylon Edwards to help any of their cases.

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]]> By: Tyler.Durden http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-59011 Tyler.Durden Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:39:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-59011 I'd take troy over joe anyay I’d take troy over joe anyay

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]]> By: Fanball58 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-59010 Fanball58 Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:39:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-59010 Crushing Touchdown Run - The Wolverines may disagree after he ran all over them out of no where at the Big House in '04. In '05 Troy sharing time with Zwick cost the Buckeyes the Texas game at the 'Shoe cause Troy did nothing but run the Cows ragged that day - when he played, while Zwick "Hoovered" every time he was in there. Troy also gave ND all they wanted in the bowl game. In '06 he didn't need to run so much with all those hoss' on the squad and he threw for 2542 yards in a Buckeye offense that got away from the spread. Hats off to the Gators for pressuring and containing him with no Ginn on the field and an O line that forgot how to play football in the title game. Troy can play. What do the Birds of B-more have to lose by giving him a chance? Boller has proved he isn't the answer and Flecco has no seasoning - he didn't even play in Div I where most everyone is good. With every player at every position very good in the NFL, Flecco has some work to do before being handed the starting job. Crushing Touchdown Run -

The Wolverines may disagree after he ran all over them out of no where at the Big House in ‘04.

In ‘05 Troy sharing time with Zwick cost the Buckeyes the Texas game at the ‘Shoe cause Troy did nothing but run the Cows ragged that day - when he played, while Zwick “Hoovered” every time he was in there. Troy also gave ND all they wanted in the bowl game.

In ‘06 he didn’t need to run so much with all those hoss’ on the squad and he threw for 2542 yards in a Buckeye offense that got away from the spread. Hats off to the Gators for pressuring and containing him with no Ginn on the field and an O line that forgot how to play football in the title game.

Troy can play. What do the Birds of B-more have to lose by giving him a chance? Boller has proved he isn’t the answer and Flecco has no seasoning - he didn’t even play in Div I where most everyone is good. With every player at every position very good in the NFL, Flecco has some work to do before being handed the starting job.

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]]> By: zoinks http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58969 zoinks Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:34:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58969 I never cease to be amazed by the people who want to see their rookie QB on the field. You do realize that, no matter what the future holds for Flacco, there's about a 95% chance that Flacco is gonna suck for his first couple years, right? Troy Smith playing well would be the best thing that could happen for the Ravens. If he can give them a couple solid years while Flacco learns the ropes, then the team can make a fairly painless transition in a couple years, as the Chargers did going from Drew Brees to Phillip Rivers. (It makes for a tough decision down the line, but it's a good problem to have). Throwing Flacco in there too early could ruin him, or at the very least, stunt his growth. QB's almost always take 3-4 years to fully develop; until they reach that point, you just hope their growing pains don't lose you too many games. I never cease to be amazed by the people who want to see their rookie QB on the field. You do realize that, no matter what the future holds for Flacco, there’s about a 95% chance that Flacco is gonna suck for his first couple years, right?

Troy Smith playing well would be the best thing that could happen for the Ravens. If he can give them a couple solid years while Flacco learns the ropes, then the team can make a fairly painless transition in a couple years, as the Chargers did going from Drew Brees to Phillip Rivers. (It makes for a tough decision down the line, but it’s a good problem to have).

Throwing Flacco in there too early could ruin him, or at the very least, stunt his growth. QB’s almost always take 3-4 years to fully develop; until they reach that point, you just hope their growing pains don’t lose you too many games.

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]]> By: brian_21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58943 brian_21 Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:50:03 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58943 This was my idea, to start Troy Smith. Let's see if he can play at the NFL level. He certainly conquered college. This was my idea, to start Troy Smith. Let’s see if he can play at the NFL level. He certainly conquered college.

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]]> By: BlitzDorsey http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58931 BlitzDorsey Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:51:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58931 What a dumbazzed thing for Florio to say. I think the Browns are pretty happy they "found something" in Derek Anderson. Florio makes it seem like the Ravens would be screwed if Troy Smith had a good year and actually proved, oh I don't know, that he's better than some overrated stiff from Delaware that couldn't even cut it at Pitt. I am telling everyone right now: We will look back on Joe Flacco as the BUST of the 2008 NFL draft. One-year wonder on the I-AA level. LOL. What a dumbazzed thing for Florio to say. I think the Browns are pretty happy they “found something” in Derek Anderson. Florio makes it seem like the Ravens would be screwed if Troy Smith had a good year and actually proved, oh I don’t know, that he’s better than some overrated stiff from Delaware that couldn’t even cut it at Pitt. I am telling everyone right now: We will look back on Joe Flacco as the BUST of the 2008 NFL draft. One-year wonder on the I-AA level. LOL.

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]]> By: RavensFan19 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58904 RavensFan19 Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:54:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58904 Miz - couldnt agree with you more for almost everything. The reason why I say that Harbaugh is going to want to see Flacco out there eventually is simply because he was the 1st round draft pick of Harbaugh's first year here. It could be construed as kind of a blunder if Troy Smith comes out guns blazing and wins games for the Ravens. For instance, they could have taken say a cornerback like Antione Cason or the guy from Southern Florida with the 18th pick (which I thought CB was a much bigger need than QB as shocking as it might be to some people to hear) and still been able to pick up Chad Henne or Brian Brohm in the 2nd round. Probably Ray Rice would have been there as well. This isn't to say that I didnt like the draft, because I thought we drafted well, but I just think that there was better value at some of the other positions in the 1st and 2nd rounds than QB. To me, Brohm would have been a better choice because he is the most pro-ready out of all of the QB options from this past draft, which there werent many IMO. Flacco could pan out to be excellent, but he has more of a chance of being another 1st round bust. Harbaugh will be the type of coach to let the best guy win, but he is going to want to see Flacco in there eventually...even if that means benching or trading Troy Smith regardless of how well he is playing. DeVoodoo - The investment is not the same at all. A few million dollars separate the two. Not too mention that the 18th pick could have been used on several other players that probably could become day one starters and be cornerstones of their respective side of the ball. For example, these guys were left in the 1st round that, IMO, were of better value for a 1st round pick than Flacco was... OT - Jeff Otah, OT - Sam Baker, CB - Mike Jenkins, CB - Antione Cason, DE - Lawrence Jackson, DE/DT - Kentawn Balmer, CB - Aqib Talib, (Top of the 2nd round): DE - Philip Merling, CB - Brandon Flowers, WR - Devin Thomas, WR - Jordy Nelson, CB - Tracey Porter, etc, etc, etc. Now, dont take this post as a "I hate Flacco" post, because I dont. I like Flacco. I just think we could have taken a CB or OL in the 1st and still been able to address the QB spot in the 2nd. Odds are, we could have still gotten Flacco in the 2nd round. Miz - couldnt agree with you more for almost everything. The reason why I say that Harbaugh is going to want to see Flacco out there eventually is simply because he was the 1st round draft pick of Harbaugh’s first year here. It could be construed as kind of a blunder if Troy Smith comes out guns blazing and wins games for the Ravens. For instance, they could have taken say a cornerback like Antione Cason or the guy from Southern Florida with the 18th pick (which I thought CB was a much bigger need than QB as shocking as it might be to some people to hear) and still been able to pick up Chad Henne or Brian Brohm in the 2nd round. Probably Ray Rice would have been there as well.

This isn’t to say that I didnt like the draft, because I thought we drafted well, but I just think that there was better value at some of the other positions in the 1st and 2nd rounds than QB. To me, Brohm would have been a better choice because he is the most pro-ready out of all of the QB options from this past draft, which there werent many IMO. Flacco could pan out to be excellent, but he has more of a chance of being another 1st round bust.

Harbaugh will be the type of coach to let the best guy win, but he is going to want to see Flacco in there eventually…even if that means benching or trading Troy Smith regardless of how well he is playing.

DeVoodoo - The investment is not the same at all. A few million dollars separate the two. Not too mention that the 18th pick could have been used on several other players that probably could become day one starters and be cornerstones of their respective side of the ball.

For example, these guys were left in the 1st round that, IMO, were of better value for a 1st round pick than Flacco was…

OT - Jeff Otah, OT - Sam Baker, CB - Mike Jenkins, CB - Antione Cason, DE - Lawrence Jackson, DE/DT - Kentawn Balmer, CB - Aqib Talib, (Top of the 2nd round): DE - Philip Merling, CB - Brandon Flowers, WR - Devin Thomas, WR - Jordy Nelson, CB - Tracey Porter, etc, etc, etc.

Now, dont take this post as a “I hate Flacco” post, because I dont. I like Flacco. I just think we could have taken a CB or OL in the 1st and still been able to address the QB spot in the 2nd. Odds are, we could have still gotten Flacco in the 2nd round.

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]]> By: Miz http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58876 Miz Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:32:51 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58876 Also, Ravensfan19, I agree with most of what you said except the part with Harbaugh wanting to see Flacco out there. He will let the best man for the job win, point blank. Whether it's Troy SMith, Joe Flacco, or Aaron Brooks. empty13, please. THe Steelers had 2 defensive starters out. Not to mention in his first start, in Seattle, at arguably the loudest stadium against one of the best pass rushing teams last year, he faired well consider the circumstances...No McGahee, among other key starters. Also, Ravensfan19, I agree with most of what you said except the part with Harbaugh wanting to see Flacco out there. He will let the best man for the job win, point blank. Whether it’s Troy SMith, Joe Flacco, or Aaron Brooks.

empty13, please. THe Steelers had 2 defensive starters out. Not to mention in his first start, in Seattle, at arguably the loudest stadium against one of the best pass rushing teams last year, he faired well consider the circumstances…No McGahee, among other key starters.

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]]> By: Miz http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58871 Miz Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:27:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58871 There is an influx of stupidity within these comments. Brasho, since you have a crystal ball and all with you knowing already Troy is not a NFL caliber QB, can you tell me the winning lotto numbers? Nixon, I agree with everything you said. Troy Smith was an option QB? LOL. Please watch football then let's talk. There is an influx of stupidity within these comments. Brasho, since you have a crystal ball and all with you knowing already Troy is not a NFL caliber QB, can you tell me the winning lotto numbers?

Nixon, I agree with everything you said.

Troy Smith was an option QB? LOL. Please watch football then let’s talk.

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]]> By: SeanMartin http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58866 SeanMartin Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:20:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58866 Smith played behind NFL sized linemen at OSU. I've been saying all this time that he should be starting; give him the opening start and take it from there... Smith played behind NFL sized linemen at OSU. I’ve been saying all this time that he should be starting; give him the opening start and take it from there…

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58855 empty13 Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:56:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58855 troy has two more pro starts than flacco and is 1-1. and before anyone shouts that he beat pittsburgh, the steelers didnt need the game and still almost won. they are even. boller is like 21-23 as a starter. not good either, but he was easily the best qb they had last year and might still be. troy has two more pro starts than flacco and is 1-1. and before anyone shouts that he beat pittsburgh, the steelers didnt need the game and still almost won.

they are even.

boller is like 21-23 as a starter. not good either, but he was easily the best qb they had last year and might still be.

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]]> By: bgman http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58850 bgman Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:38:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58850 How did you not work Brett Favre's name into this story? Especially considering the Ravens are one of only a few teams he could logically end up. How did you not work Brett Favre’s name into this story? Especially considering the Ravens are one of only a few teams he could logically end up.

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]]> By: DeVoodoo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58839 DeVoodoo Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:16:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58839 Your logic is a little flawed on this one, Florio. You're essentially saying that the Ravens would be unhappy to go to the post-season. It matters little if it's Smith or Flacco that takes them there. If one emerges as the Future of the Franchise, then so be it. All it took were 1st and 5th round picks to find their starter. What does it matter if it's the 5th rounder or the 1st rounder who emerges? The investment was the same. Your logic is a little flawed on this one, Florio. You’re essentially saying that the Ravens would be unhappy to go to the post-season. It matters little if it’s Smith or Flacco that takes them there. If one emerges as the Future of the Franchise, then so be it. All it took were 1st and 5th round picks to find their starter. What does it matter if it’s the 5th rounder or the 1st rounder who emerges? The investment was the same.

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]]> By: radioslay http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58829 radioslay Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:55:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58829 Does Kyle Boller get to play the role of Charlie Frye? Does Kyle Boller get to play the role of Charlie Frye?

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]]> By: RavensFan19 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58828 RavensFan19 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:49:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58828 Not a surprise here at all. Troy has heard all of these knocks several times before in his career. When he was at Ohio State he wasnt considered much more than a RB. He even started off as nothing but a kick returner. Tressell favored the big-strong-armed QB (Justin Zwick), but Troy got his opportunity and the rest is history, as they say. This is no different than what he was facing at Ohio State. The guy may not be the "ideal" height of what you are looking for in an NFL QB, but really, what does that matter? Drew Brees is only 6' tall and he fares pretty well. With the way some people talk about how Troy isnt going to be an NFL QB because he isn't between the heights of 6'2" and 6'5" you would think that his OL at OSU were only 5'8" and then magically grew to heights of 6'3"+ when they were drafted into the NFL. Nick Mangold (6'5"), Steve Rehring (6'7"), Kirk Barton (6'6"), Alex Boone (6'8")...etc etc etc. Troy is going to start because he picked up Cam's offense quickly and has been throwing the ball extremely well during practices. He has been there working out with the team, with the coaches, and he has been earning the respect of the entire organization. He knew that he would have to work to be the QB and he is going to have to work to keep the starting job. The bigger picture here is Flacco was a 1st round pick and he is getting into camp on time. However, he has been considered a project with incredible upside. That being said, it is very likely that we could be looking at a situation like the Browns have, or what the Chargers had with Brees and Rivers. Regardless of how well Troy does, eventually Harbaugh and Cam are going to want to see Flacco out there. Personally, Flacco is going to do nothing but benefit by sitting and watching Troy play. He will get to stand on the sidelines, pick players brains, and be beside Harbaugh during game time. All of those things are going to help him transition from Delaware to the NFL. A lot of Baltimore fans are afraid that he was a man amongst boys at U of Delaware, but now in the NFL he is going to hit a wall of mediocrity. Personally, I am happy that we potentially have to very good young QB's on this squad. It's about time. A situation like the Browns have or like the Chargers had could only be dreamt about in Baltimore considering our leading franchise passer currently is Kyle Boller. The best QB we have had is Trent Dilfer and that is really only because he did a good job at not making too many turnovers. Testaverde, Grbac, Wright, Stoney Case, Redman...the list goes on and on and on...for a franchise that has been around for just over a decade with a Lombardi trophy, we have really never stepped up to the plate in regards to finding and developing a legitimate franchise QB. Troy is a proven winner, has a strong arm, good pocket awareness, has played and won against top competition, makes good decisions, can make plays with his feet, and he earns the respect of his teammates. He has all of the tools to succeed. As with anything, only time will tell. Not a surprise here at all.

Troy has heard all of these knocks several times before in his career. When he was at Ohio State he wasnt considered much more than a RB. He even started off as nothing but a kick returner. Tressell favored the big-strong-armed QB (Justin Zwick), but Troy got his opportunity and the rest is history, as they say.

This is no different than what he was facing at Ohio State. The guy may not be the “ideal” height of what you are looking for in an NFL QB, but really, what does that matter? Drew Brees is only 6′ tall and he fares pretty well. With the way some people talk about how Troy isnt going to be an NFL QB because he isn’t between the heights of 6′2″ and 6′5″ you would think that his OL at OSU were only 5′8″ and then magically grew to heights of 6′3″+ when they were drafted into the NFL. Nick Mangold (6′5″), Steve Rehring (6′7″), Kirk Barton (6′6″), Alex Boone (6′8″)…etc etc etc.

Troy is going to start because he picked up Cam’s offense quickly and has been throwing the ball extremely well during practices. He has been there working out with the team, with the coaches, and he has been earning the respect of the entire organization. He knew that he would have to work to be the QB and he is going to have to work to keep the starting job.

The bigger picture here is Flacco was a 1st round pick and he is getting into camp on time. However, he has been considered a project with incredible upside. That being said, it is very likely that we could be looking at a situation like the Browns have, or what the Chargers had with Brees and Rivers. Regardless of how well Troy does, eventually Harbaugh and Cam are going to want to see Flacco out there. Personally, Flacco is going to do nothing but benefit by sitting and watching Troy play. He will get to stand on the sidelines, pick players brains, and be beside Harbaugh during game time. All of those things are going to help him transition from Delaware to the NFL. A lot of Baltimore fans are afraid that he was a man amongst boys at U of Delaware, but now in the NFL he is going to hit a wall of mediocrity.

Personally, I am happy that we potentially have to very good young QB’s on this squad. It’s about time. A situation like the Browns have or like the Chargers had could only be dreamt about in Baltimore considering our leading franchise passer currently is Kyle Boller. The best QB we have had is Trent Dilfer and that is really only because he did a good job at not making too many turnovers. Testaverde, Grbac, Wright, Stoney Case, Redman…the list goes on and on and on…for a franchise that has been around for just over a decade with a Lombardi trophy, we have really never stepped up to the plate in regards to finding and developing a legitimate franchise QB.

Troy is a proven winner, has a strong arm, good pocket awareness, has played and won against top competition, makes good decisions, can make plays with his feet, and he earns the respect of his teammates. He has all of the tools to succeed. As with anything, only time will tell.

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]]> By: eckiles http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58821 eckiles Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:35:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58821 I don´t see the problem here as well. If i had an nfl team to coach and i had the problem of probably choosing between two potential starting quarterbacks i would welcome it anytime... I don´t see the problem here as well. If i had an nfl team to coach and i had the problem of probably choosing between two potential starting quarterbacks i would welcome it anytime…

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]]> By: PatLeland http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58816 PatLeland Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:22:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58816 Ok..I'm going to have to disagree. Baltimore's elite defense is getting old. All three pro-bowl linebackers are free agents after this season. Both starting corners are in their 30s. The best thing for Baltimore is to give Troy a fair shot and try to win before they have to rebuild the defense not hand the team over to Flacco, who has nothing going for him but a first round pedigree and a big arm and go through his growing pains, why replay the boller situation again? If having two QBs that are viewed as starter quality is a problem, I hope my team always has plenty of problems. Ok..I’m going to have to disagree. Baltimore’s elite defense is getting old. All three pro-bowl linebackers are free agents after this season. Both starting corners are in their 30s. The best thing for Baltimore is to give Troy a fair shot and try to win before they have to rebuild the defense not hand the team over to Flacco, who has nothing going for him but a first round pedigree and a big arm and go through his growing pains, why replay the boller situation again? If having two QBs that are viewed as starter quality is a problem, I hope my team always has plenty of problems.

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]]> By: Gailikk http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58812 Gailikk Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:12:10 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58812 I say good for the Ravens. Think of the potential in this situation. You start Smith, if he succeeds at the position, you trade him for a number 2 and 3. If he sucks, no big loss. If he is to good to trade, then give up Flacco for a second and third and life moves on. Can't seem to go wrong unless both qb's just plain suck. Can't argue with that. I say good for the Ravens. Think of the potential in this situation. You start Smith, if he succeeds at the position, you trade him for a number 2 and 3. If he sucks, no big loss. If he is to good to trade, then give up Flacco for a second and third and life moves on. Can’t seem to go wrong unless both qb’s just plain suck. Can’t argue with that.

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]]> By: porksoda http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58811 porksoda Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:05:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58811 There is no reason at all to think that a 5th round pick from a year ago with little experience will come out and play at any where near a pro bowl level like Anderson did. It would be crazy to throw Flacco out to the wolves immediately. Let him be backup for a year or two until he gets used to the nfl system, then send him out. The Ravens won't be winning the super bowl any time soon, there is no reason to risk the future of the franchise. There is no reason at all to think that a 5th round pick from a year ago with little experience will come out and play at any where near a pro bowl level like Anderson did. It would be crazy to throw Flacco out to the wolves immediately.

Let him be backup for a year or two until he gets used to the nfl system, then send him out. The Ravens won’t be winning the super bowl any time soon, there is no reason to risk the future of the franchise.

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]]> By: seaner44 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58799 seaner44 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:33:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58799 WOW, after seeing what the browns did last year, and in a similar situation leaving the rookie on the bench for a year or two in Green Bay, Cincy etc... why wouldn't you want to have the same problems as the Browns? WOW, after seeing what the browns did last year, and in a similar situation leaving the rookie on the bench for a year or two in Green Bay, Cincy etc… why wouldn’t you want to have the same problems as the Browns?

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]]> By: GeauxSaints12 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58798 GeauxSaints12 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:30:23 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58798 The only thing bad about the “Browns-style pickle”,is that if your player that you selected in the later round does very well and makes your team very good, it means you wasted a pick drafting a 1st round quarterback. I mean if Smith does what Anderson did last year and does it again the following year, you just wasted money on someone you didn't need. The only thing bad about the “Browns-style pickle”,is that if your player that you selected in the later round does very well and makes your team very good, it means you wasted a pick drafting a 1st round quarterback. I mean if Smith does what Anderson did last year and does it again the following year, you just wasted money on someone you didn’t need.

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]]> By: DaDence http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58797 DaDence Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:28:50 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58797 Great plan - it worked awesome when they started Future Hall of Famer Kyle Boller as a rookie... Great plan - it worked awesome when they started Future Hall of Famer Kyle Boller as a rookie…

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]]> By: Crushing Touchdown Run http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58784 Crushing Touchdown Run Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:59:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58784 "...option-style skills..."? He did not run one option play at Ohio State. Ever. “…option-style skills…”? He did not run one option play at Ohio State.

Ever.

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]]> By: joebrowns12 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58782 joebrowns12 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:51:28 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58782 You're right, there is nothing worse then having an overabundance of quality quarterbacks. You’re right, there is nothing worse then having an overabundance of quality quarterbacks.

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]]> By: Fade 2 Black http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58778 Fade 2 Black Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:38:37 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58778 Hey Mr. Mike, I have thought that, due to his physical stature (smallish for a QB if I recall) and his option-style skills from O-State... it is unclear if Smith is a legitimate NFL starter. (Those Theisman and Flutie days seem to be gone.) So maybe the Ravens just wanna warm up the offensive engine before they put Flacco behind the wheel. F2B Hey Mr. Mike,

I have thought that, due to his physical stature (smallish for a QB if I recall) and his option-style skills from O-State…

it is unclear if Smith is a legitimate NFL starter.

(Those Theisman and Flutie days seem to be gone.)

So maybe the Ravens just wanna warm up the offensive engine before they put Flacco behind the wheel.

F2B

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]]> By: Robut M. Nixon http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58776 Robut M. Nixon Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:35:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58776 Why is a "Browns-style pickle" a bad thing? I can name 20+ teams in the league who would love to have that problem. And why is it so critical to "get Flacco ready, and to let him play, sooner rather than later"? Because he was picked in the first round? Because he's making a lot of money? That's insane. If Smith starts and plays well, you keep him in. Hopefully he develops into a franchise starter, and you name your price in a Flacco trade. If Smith struggles, you send in Flacco and keep Smith on as a backup. I just don't see why you'd rush a guy who played 1-AA ball and has little experience with a pro-style offense, or why sitting him a year because the incumbent plays well is some sort of "risk" or "problem." Why is a “Browns-style pickle” a bad thing? I can name 20+ teams in the league who would love to have that problem.

And why is it so critical to “get Flacco ready, and to let him play, sooner rather than later”? Because he was picked in the first round? Because he’s making a lot of money? That’s insane. If Smith starts and plays well, you keep him in. Hopefully he develops into a franchise starter, and you name your price in a Flacco trade. If Smith struggles, you send in Flacco and keep Smith on as a backup.

I just don’t see why you’d rush a guy who played 1-AA ball and has little experience with a pro-style offense, or why sitting him a year because the incumbent plays well is some sort of “risk” or “problem.”

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]]> By: brasho http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58773 brasho Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:28:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/19/troy-smith-to-start-for-the-ravens/#comment-58773 This is assuming, of course, that Troy Smith is really an NFL-calibre starting QB, which he isn't. Think of it this way, at his best Smith is comparable to Shaun King, at worst Joe Hamilton, either way it won't be enough to hold off Flacco if he turns out to be decent. This is assuming, of course, that Troy Smith is really an NFL-calibre starting QB, which he isn’t. Think of it this way, at his best Smith is comparable to Shaun King, at worst Joe Hamilton, either way it won’t be enough to hold off Flacco if he turns out to be decent.

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