In the wake of our Thursday blurb regarding comments from Browns G.M. Phil Savage relating to the status of receiver Joe Jurevicius, several readers have raised questions about the operation of the Physically Unable to Perform list.
Many players are on the PUP list at the outset of training camp, and this does not impact in any way their ability to play in the regular season. Limitations apply only when the player is on the PUP list to start the regular season, since such status automatically knocks the player out for at least six weeks of the regular season.
So the PUP list operates like the old injured reserve rules, which likewise resulted in a six-week stashing of the player on the roster. The difference is that, for the PUP list, the absence is due to an injury that predated the opening of training camp. For injured reserve, conditions occurring during camp were included.
In this case, Savage’s comments weren’t focused on Jurevicius being on the PUP list to start training camp, but to begin the regular season.
And, as one league source opined to us on Thursday, that’s a telling admission. “If [Savage is] saying that, the injury must be bad,” the source said. “You would never hear [Pats coach Bill] Belichick admit something like that about one of his players.”
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July 18th, 2008 at 7:45 am
What did the Pats do with Seymour last year? Sure they didn’t indicate Seymour’s condition was that bad at the start of camp. But if the player isn’t in camp for four weeks, it’s pretty much clear he will be a non factor for the first four to six weeks anyway, because that is at least the time he’ll need to catch up after he is back in training.
I guess the last seasons - Seymour in NE, Bob Sanders in Indy - showed that its probably better to put the player on PUP and have the team win the first six to eight games without such a player, to have him in December, when things really matter and you need endurance.
As some teams have realized, no team has ever won a SB in September, but several have screwed their chances in that period. If you’re too good in September, that’s a guaranteed disaster for December and January.
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July 18th, 2008 at 9:26 am
I think his (savage) comments mean exactly what he said. They would reevaluate him in late August (4-6 weeks normal recovery time for surgical procedure) to see if hes ready to play. If not, they may have to place him on the pup list depending on how close he is to returning…
PS. who gives a crap on what Belichick would do in this situation.
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July 18th, 2008 at 9:33 am
Good God, what is it with Cleveland? Edwards, Winslow, Bentley, and now Jurevicius. Is that town just one massive staph infection or what?
What the hell are these guys doing, swimming in Lake Erie?
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July 18th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Question: are visiting players at all concerned about the alleged staph infection problems in Cleveland’s facilities?
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