Though it remains to be seen whether the Packers filed tampering charges against the Vikings based on a hunch or hard evidence, our guess is that folks in Minnesota are feeling a little nervous right now about how the situation could unfold.
In the past, the NFL generally looked the other way regarding tampering. Two years ago, the Patriots claimed their relationship with receiver Deion Branch had been disrupted by the Jets. Though New England was seemingly confident in its case, the controversy died quietly.
Earlier this year, however, the league smacked down the 49ers for allegedly engaging in contract talks with agent Drew Rosenhaus regarding Bears linebacker Lance Briggs at a time when the Bears and 49ers were talking about a possible trade. Though Rosenhaus didn’t testify at the hearing and the Niners denied that any discussions with Rosenhaus had centered on Briggs, the league was able to find that tampering had occurred based on the contents of internal 49ers e-mail messages at key intervals of the overall time line.
In this case, Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell presumably will deny talking to Favre about playing in Minnesota. As to Favre, who suddenly has developed a case of chronic verbal diarrhea, there’s a chance that he’ll talk long enough to both exonerate and implicate the team. If anyone can make sense of what he’s saying.
The question ultimately will be whether the Packers can develop evidence beyond the phone calls between Bevell and Favre. As we pointed out on Wednesday, no rule prohibits the two men from being friends, or from talking on the phone like pre-teen girls with 44-ounce Slurpees and the Sprint Simply Everything plan.
For now, it seems that the Packers don’t have a smoking gun. Per the Associated Press, they’re relying upon the number of calls between the two men, and a belief that interest from the Vikings drove Favre’s interest in playing again.
But if members of the Vikings’ coaching staff and/or front office were dumb enough to trade e-mail messages regarding the possibility of landing Favre, and if those messages mesh with the trail of calls between Favre and Bevell, the Vikings could be in very hot water.
Even if the Packers don’t have, and can’t find, hard proof to support their claim, the move makes sense. At a minimum, the claim will likely scare the Vikings away from pursuing Favre, if they were ever inclined to do so. (The 49ers, after all, didn’t sign Briggs once he became an unrestricted free agent.)
And as our own Taco Bill points out, the charge allows the Packers to paint Favre as a traitor, and as a liar. He recently told Fox News that he hasn’t envisioned himself playing for another team. The Packers now contend that he has, and that the team in question is one of the Packers’ most hated rivals.
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July 17th, 2008 at 11:30 am
I know that, as a Packers fan, I’m supposed to be hating each of these ungodly twists and revelations to this whole Favre saga. But it’s all just so incredibly absurd. I’m really going to be disappointed when it ends.
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July 17th, 2008 at 11:34 am
At least it gives us something to talk about other than arrests.
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July 17th, 2008 at 11:37 am
My prediction. The Monday Night season opener between the Vikings and Packers will be the highest rated ever, no matter what jersey, if any, Favre is wearing.
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July 17th, 2008 at 11:37 am
judging by the boatload of favre pics of the day and contant articles, you have profited very nicely from his “chronic verbal diarrhea”
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July 17th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Wow another story from the NFL - National Farve League…..
Isn’t his 15 minutes up yet? He had a good career - now he should just go away….
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July 17th, 2008 at 11:54 am
Here’s a conspiracy theory idea. The Packers don’t know either way
whether or not the Vikings are tampering and don’t actually care.
However, what better way to divert the attention of the entire mess
the franchise is in than to claim tampering and put the focus there.
BF gets less attention; TT and Coach get less; “rookie” quarterback
gets less; and the negative vibe focused on one of their arch enemies - the Vikings!!
Can we please just push pause until Green Bay and BF figure this out?
Let’s get into camp and get organized behind TJack and see what this
season can bring!! BF is never going to be a Viking so let’s the
Packers figure out their own stupidity!!
KAS
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July 17th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Florio, you of all people should be smart enough to know that this is all part of the PR campaign by the Packers front office to make Brett Farve out to be the bad guy, but also to scare away any potential team (especially the Vikings) that would be interested in signing him when they eventually cut him. (Which they are going to do.)
Ted Thompson is one of the most dishonorable GM’s in the business, with a history of screwing over his veteran players without even batting an eyelash. It’s no wonder that Favre doesn’t get along with him. This entire debacle with Favre was his doing, and by buying into his claim of tampering charges (which apparently you have) you are doing exactly what he wants you to do. If anyone should have a story on PFT leading people to believe they are the bad guy, it should be him.
$0.02,
–Z
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July 17th, 2008 at 11:59 am
I was wondering….what happens if after investigating (or whatever they do) they find that indeed the Vikings were talking to Farve…..what would happen to Minnesota???????
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Agree w/ KSteiner.
Shrewd (and most likely sober) move by the Sconnies trying to divert focus to a heated and hated rival who is trying to sneak in and scoop up Brett Fav-ra.
Only thing that makes me sleep easier is that Capt. Fred Smoot isn’t around to be chartering a boat for a tour of Minnesota lakes to help in the recruiting.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Yeah, the first thing I thought of when I heard this is this was an effort by Thompson to keep the fans in check by blaming the whole situation on a hated rival. And if they can send a little distraction westward while the Vikings prepare for what looks to be a solid season, so much the better.
‘Cause I certainly don’t believe the Vikings had anything to do with Favre’s decision to come back and his lack of desire to play for the Vikings. Former QB coach or not, I can’t see that Favre has any particular hankering to play for the Vikings. While I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that Favre & Bevell were chatting, and that Bevell floated the question of whether Favre would consider coming to the Vikings, I sincerely doubt Bevell has that much influence over Favre and his actions.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
the charges were filed last week… which means Brett’s interview came afterwards.
It’s not just a jab at the always great on newspaper Vikings, its a warning shot at all the other teams in the NFL to stay away. Retired or not, BF is under contract, for some reason 12 million isn’t enough to come play for a GM he hates, as if every other player in the league loves their GM.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
New conspiracy theory. The whole will he or won’t he is a sham devised back in March by TT, MM, and Favre. Favre has no intention of returning, but with GB being threatened by a solid (and building) Minnesota team, they devised one lasts plan for Brett to beat the Vikes.
Brett makes the first move and contacts his old QB coach. The Super Bowl hungry Vikes have no way to resist and try to get Favre to come play for them. Favre will remain retired, however Minesota will lose out on a first rounder next year, costing them a valuable player.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Mike you kind of alluded to it in your report here, but I think that this is the first step in the Packers plan to release Favre. You are probably right that this will scare the Vikings away from signing Favre as a free agent, because doing so would almost be admitting they were guilty of tampering.
Then they would just have to worry about Favre signing in Chicago, which as a Packer fine would suck, but this year I would much rather see him in Chicago than Minnesota. Minnesota has a far better team than Chicago, which I hate to admit, because I live on the WI side of the MN/WI border, but it is true. Favre in Minnesota would be far worse than Favre in Chicago, and this tampering charge will make it very hard for Minnesota to sign him, whether they are guilty or not.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
I totally didn’t understand Farve retiring when he did. He stuck it out when the team wasn’t very good & then he quits when he gets one game away from the SuperBowl? It made no sense. The team wanted to know where he was as far as wanting to come back as recently as May. He stuck by his decision then.Should the team hold a spot for him as the starter when he kept telling them he was staying retired? This has been going on for 3 years now with him going as far as holding a press conference to state that he hasn’t made up his mind yet.I find it difficult to understand how anyone can be on Favre’s side on this after what he has done over the last several years.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
if favre cared about Green Bay, he would testify against the Vikings in order for them to lose draft picks. But obviously its easy to see that he doesnt care about them at all.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
What are they gonna do? Subpoena Farve’s & Bevell’s phone records? Can the NFL do that?
Damn, I wish I knew a lawyer…
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Has anyone stopped and thought about the whole Madden video game curse??? eeesh! Maybe there’s something to it. I betcha that if #04 does play this season that gets injured. And if that happens (if a player who was friggin’ retired at the time it was announced that he would be on the game’s cover) the comes out of retirement and then gets injured, would any player be stooopid enough to be on next year’s cover?
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
I agree that this is a PR play first and foremost for the Packers. There is no need to dissuade the Vikings from signing Favre because the Packers have no intent of releasing him.
If the commiss fines the Vikings for tampering, all the better. But, I suspect the intent is to change the focus of conversation.
If the Vikings are smart (big stretch), they turn the PR around on the Packers by making a statement to juxtapose (thanks Tiki) the relational skills of Vikings employees (vis-a-vis, two long time friends talking about anything but coming to play for the purple) as opposed to Packer management who: will not talk to arguably their greatest player ever, plays out confrontation with that player through the media, and tells the public and the player different stories. The Vikings should point out this to be the attempted smear that it is.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Let me see if i understand what happened.
Brett retired. GB had a press conference where he cried and acted like he still wanted to play but did not feel like dealing with the OTAs and the constant speculation.
GB drafts 2 QBs and makes plans to play Rodgers.
Brett starts doing the interviews and opens the door to a possible comeback.
The Pack does not really want him back. They also don’t want to let him play for anyone else.
Brett does not accept the terms and the pissing match begins.
TT tries to paint Brett as a backup or a flip flopper.
Brett tries to paint TT as an idiot.
Brett is made to look like a fool for “not sticking to his decision” and spewing “verbal diareah” about his beloved GM, who he never really got along with.
Brett has a contract with about 30 million left on it.
If he shows up before week 6, the pack has to pay him or cut him.
The media eats anything Brett drops from either end up with a spoon, particarally the “verbal diarea” and the rest of us are basically disgusted by it at this point.
His contract and the fact that he is retired make any kind of trade unlikley to impossible, so basically nothing that is said or done until Brett makes his move for unretirement, will change the fact that when he does the Pack has one of two options. Pay him a whole lot money and hope his heart is still in it, or cut him and face the PR hit they are attempting to brace for now by making Brett look like a liar instead of like almost every really good vet player near the end of the line. How upset was GB whe Reggie unretired and played for the Panthers? There was no S storm of controversy because he was not turned into some sort of demigod by the media.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
CoryDangerous,
No way the Commissioner takes away a #1 pick. SF only lost a #3 and that was for trying to work a deal with Brigg’s agent. Old friends talking does not rise to this level. Personally, I suspect that this goes away. Goodell talks sense into the Packers and the charge gets dropped. At worst, a monetary fine is asssessed. I can’t see a draft pick being lost over hearsay.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Chris from MD says:
July 17th, 2008 at 11:34 am
At least it gives us something to talk about other than arrests.
DITTO!
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
I think your definitive statement as to why the 49ers were convicted of tampering by Goodall is based solely on a blog entry from Tim Kawakami. If so, you’re not being smart. I don’t think Tim’s story has been confirmed by any other published source. Tim has a history of disclosing 49er stories that nobody else confirms that in many cases turn out to be dead wrong. Tim also has a very open agenda of being hostile to the 49ers and wanting the owners, head coach and general manager replaced. I’m being nice, what I really mean is that Kawakami pushes half truths & lies to further his campaign and it does you no favors to repeat them as fact.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Bert Farve, an active party to cheating? SAY IT AIN’T SO.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I think the contract will be restructured for a trade to whatever interested party there may be. I don’t believe Green Bay will pay Favre $12 million to be a backup.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
I’m sure I’m not the first to suggest that Farve replace Millen in Detroit.
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