Though it remains to be seen whether the Packers filed tampering charges against the Vikings based on a hunch or hard evidence, our guess is that folks in Minnesota are feeling a little nervous right now about how the situation could unfold.
In the past, the NFL generally looked the other way regarding tampering. Two years ago, the Patriots claimed their relationship with receiver Deion Branch had been disrupted by the Jets. Though New England was seemingly confident in its case, the controversy died quietly.
Earlier this year, however, the league smacked down the 49ers for allegedly engaging in contract talks with agent Drew Rosenhaus regarding Bears linebacker Lance Briggs at a time when the Bears and 49ers were talking about a possible trade. Though Rosenhaus didn’t testify at the hearing and the Niners denied that any discussions with Rosenhaus had centered on Briggs, the league was able to find that tampering had occurred based on the contents of internal 49ers e-mail messages at key intervals of the overall time line.
In this case, Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell presumably will deny talking to Favre about playing in Minnesota. As to Favre, who suddenly has developed a case of chronic verbal diarrhea, there’s a chance that he’ll talk long enough to both exonerate and implicate the team. If anyone can make sense of what he’s saying.
The question ultimately will be whether the Packers can develop evidence beyond the phone calls between Bevell and Favre. As we pointed out on Wednesday, no rule prohibits the two men from being friends, or from talking on the phone like pre-teen girls with 44-ounce Slurpees and the Sprint Simply Everything plan.
For now, it seems that the Packers don’t have a smoking gun. Per the Associated Press, they’re relying upon the number of calls between the two men, and a belief that interest from the Vikings drove Favre’s interest in playing again.
But if members of the Vikings’ coaching staff and/or front office were dumb enough to trade e-mail messages regarding the possibility of landing Favre, and if those messages mesh with the trail of calls between Favre and Bevell, the Vikings could be in very hot water.
Even if the Packers don’t have, and can’t find, hard proof to support their claim, the move makes sense. At a minimum, the claim will likely scare the Vikings away from pursuing Favre, if they were ever inclined to do so. (The 49ers, after all, didn’t sign Briggs once he became an unrestricted free agent.)
And as our own Taco Bill points out, the charge allows the Packers to paint Favre as a traitor, and as a liar. He recently told Fox News that he hasn’t envisioned himself playing for another team. The Packers now contend that he has, and that the team in question is one of the Packers’ most hated rivals.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
It’s time to cut the cord on Favre!!! LEt release him so we all can move on! Training camps start next week and I tried of the this week National Favre League events to last a lifetime.
JUST CUT THE CORD TED! MOVE ON!
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Cant we just get passed this already please oh and mike nice subtle ad placement with the sprint simply everything plan
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July 17th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
HA! The joke’s on the Packers, since the Vikings losing a first-rounder is no loss at all:
Vikings’s last five first-round picks:
2004 Kenechi Udeze DE USC
2005 Troy Williamson WR South Carolina
Erasmus James DE Wisconsin
2006 Chad Greenway LB Iowa
2007 Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma
The first one has a life-threatening disease, the second one is blind, the third one piled up five whole sacks in three-plus years, the fourth one missed his entire first year with injury. Okay, the fifth one is Purple Jesus. But still!
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July 17th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
If Favre and Bevell were not friends, there would be circumstantial evidence, at best. Since they are friends, nothing will come out of this. Even if there were conversations about Favre playing for the Vikes , who is going to admit it? Bevell would lose his job and any future job. Favre would tarnish his reputation by destroying a friends career; and Cook, (if anything was going on and if he was involved in that alleged activity) would certainly never get another client, and could face disbarment.
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July 17th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
What I don’t understand is why the Packers management wasn’t willing to sit down privately and talk to Favre, without bringing the media into the whole thing. After all, this guy is still the face of the Green Bay Packers, and he took their team to a top-4 finish last year. On the way he finished 4th or 5th in the league in almost all the passing stats - completion %, yards, QB rating. Even if the Packers didn’t want him back, this could have, and should have, been handled quietly, and I blame Packers management for that. After all, Favre didn’t give a single interview until after Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy spent all of last weekend talking to the press. That’s when everything took an ugly turn. I think I might be pretty upset, too, if my old boss said, “You have two choices: Stay retired, or come back and be humiliated.” And the reality is, it’s not the Packers decision whether Favre stays retired; they have no right to force that on him - but they also are not required to take him back. I think an agreement could have been reached in private before things turned dark, but no one even tried. Not that Favre has handled everything well on his end, but he deserved a little more respectful response than he got. Thompson is a cutthroat jerk (never mind that he’s too stupid to give Ryan Grant a contract), and this is not the first or last time he will behave this way toward a respected veteran player. I can only hope his days in Green Bay are numbered.
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July 17th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
@SamIAm
I wasn’t being even remotely serious.
@fretileoctogenarian
I’ve stated that at least 3 times on this site.
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July 17th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Heads up people, new sponsorship coming: Seven-Eleven slurpees will now get a weekly post in this space!
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July 17th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
I would say that this is like two guys fighting over the affections of the prom queen but it’s closer to two guys fighting over the affections of the lunch lady with the big hairy mole on her lip.
Good luck with your “Least Supportive of the Starting QB” nominations at the Irrelevant Franchise Awards, guys.
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July 17th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Hot water for discussing a player they would have to trade for? Goodell is ruining this league. SO WHAT!!!
Goodell screwed the pooch royally in the SF tampering thing. Precedence has been set. Mommy Goodell is going to punish the Vikes they because they talked to a guy that will never ever play for them.
Give me a break. Bring back the good old days where everything goes. This is gettin to be CRAP. Goodie Two Shoes Goodell must go.
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July 17th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Why do I get this funny feeling that Ted Thompson is being advised by Karl Rove?
Every step Thompson has taken has been purely political, where perception and spin is more important than truth, and winning the day’s new cycle is more important than doing the right thing.
His talking points have gone from: “We wanted Brett back, but he changed his mind again” to “We changed our offense to fit Aaron Rogers” to “We want to protect Brett Favre’s legacy” to “He can come back, but only as Aaron Roger’s back-up” to “He can come back and compete for the starting job” to “We would agree to trade Brett, but no one has shown any interest in him” to “This is all Minnesota’s fault because they were illegally contacting him to come out of retirement to play for them.”
Thompson, any thought that Favre was just emotionally spent when you pressured into retiring in March, and after some time off he realized what he really wanted was to come back as the Packers starter and complete what wasn’t finished last year? Or do you think it was all some diabolical plan to screw the franchise that he always be remembered for just to play for a rival team?
Or is Ted Thompson just channelling Mark Peterson (the Chicago area police officer who allegedly has killed three of his wives)? Thompson is acting like a possessive ex-boyfriend with his “I don’t want you, but don’t want anyone else to have you either” attitude.
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July 17th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Should be easy to prove. Just have the Pats chech their tapes.
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July 17th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Mossey Cade says:
July 17th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
“HA! The joke’s on the Packers, since the Vikings losing a first-rounder is no loss at all:
Vikings’s last five first-round picks:
2004 Kenechi Udeze DE USC
2005 Troy Williamson WR South Carolina
Erasmus James DE Wisconsin
2006 Chad Greenway LB Iowa
2007 Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma
The first one has a life-threatening disease, the second one is blind, the third one piled up five whole sacks in three-plus years, the fourth one missed his entire first year with injury. Okay, the fifth one is Purple Jesus. But still!”
Kenechi will more than likely come back for the ‘09 season. Greenway had the same stats this past year as Green Bay’s loved A.J. Hawk. AD is Purpul Jeezus. 3 of 5 ain’t bad.
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July 17th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Jeremiah W:
You had me until “particarally”.
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July 17th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Come on Law Dogs,
You can’t “suddenly” develop “chronic” verbal diarrhea. Chronic means its been going on for a long time. The appropriate diagnosis is “Acute Onset” verbal diarrhea. The treatment, is of course, a higher fiber diet and a general habit of thinking before speaking.
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July 17th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
THE VIKINGS ARE CHEATERS, STRIP THEM ON THEIR SUPERBOWL WINS. oh wait…
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July 17th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
All Thompson has said is that BF needs to unretire to get back on the roster so they can jointly figure out what to do with no preconceptions as to BF’s role. What’s unreasonable and political about that? The only argument from BF is that TT would then fine him for not being in camp. A pathetic response by any criteria.
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July 17th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Mossey Cade, the only difference is that if the packers are using the pick, they wont f–k it up
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July 17th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Zzzzzzzzzzz…………
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July 17th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Are you guys actually serious? How can anyone take Favre’s side on this? After the crap Favre has done over the last 3 years in the offseason there should be no way he can be defended.
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July 17th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
I hope the Vikings take him put on one of their famous boat parties…….and throw him overboard into the ocean
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July 17th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
I have a question Mr. Florio, Is there any recourse that the Packers could face for filing a false charge. Because if there was no punitive action against false accusations, one would think that any team at this point could claim tampering whether there was evidence or not and just hope the league stumbles upon something. If there is no evidence then the accusing team would say… “Oops, My bad” and if they do find something your opponent would lose draft picks or other penalties. I guess my point is that this is B.S. everyone knows its B.S. The Packers are doing this to keep Favre away and possibly handicap the only team in the division that stands a chance of dethroning them. This looks to me that they are afraid. More afraid of having Favre show up on Monday the 9th of September in the other jersey. That also tells me they are possibly planning on letting Favre go. And this is a preemptive ploy to keep the Vikings paws off of him.
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July 17th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Oh second Question, What if Favre wanted to come back in another role other than a player. Could Darrell have asked him to come in and be a Quarterbacks Coach. I know that would never happen but is it a possibility to come back as a coach even if you have 2 years remaining on contract to play? How long would Brett have to wait before he could coach?
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July 17th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Mossey/Trikee,
Packers won’t F-up the pick??
Vikings’s last seven years of first-round picks:
2007 Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma
2006 Chad Greenway LB Iowa
2005 Troy Williamson WR South Carolina
Erasmus James DE Wisconsin
2004 Kenechi Udeze DE USC
2003 Kevin Williams DT Oklahoma State
2002 Bryant McKinnie OT Miami
2001 Michael Bennett RB Wisconsin
Packer’s last seven yeear’s of first-round picks:
2007 Justin Harrell DT Tennesse
2006 AJ Hawk LB Ohio State
2005 Aaron Rodgers WR Cal
2004 Ahmad Carroll CB Arkansas
2003 Nick Barnett LB Oregon St
2002 Javon Walker WR FSU
2001 Jamal Reynolds DE FSU
Using the Bakay Tale-of-the-Tape method, lets break it down scientifically:
2007 - Vikings (no comparison)
2006 - Push (Hawk and Greenway both solid)
2005 - Packers, but questionable. If Brett returns and Rodgers leaves in a year, then push as both bust.
2004 - Vikings (don’t make me compare)
2003 - Vikings (Barnet is solid, Williams is a multi-Pro Bowler)
2002 - Vikings (McKinnie is an anchor, Walker on his third team and currently auditioning for the Mean Machine)
2001 - Vikings (at least they got 1 Pro Bowl year out of Bennett)
The Vikings can draft talent. They just find a way to choke it away.
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July 17th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
“Mossey Cade, the only difference is that if the packers are using the pick, they wont f–k it up ”
The Packers screw up more first round picks than hit on them.
Antwan Edwards - who?
Jamal Reynolds - who?
Bubba Franks - crappy Jets TE now
Javon Walker - yeesh. long on talent, short on brains
Nick Barnett - Good pick
Ahmad Carroll - bust
Aaron Rodgers - TBD
AJ Hawk - Good player, but he may never live up to his #5 overall status
Justin Harrell - we’ll see if he’s any good, he should start this year with Williams gone and Jolly likely headed to prison.
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July 17th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
looks to me like bf is being political. he has been telling everyone else how to do ther job, and then he went greta on the situation.
if he thinks he is the gm, can he really be in trouble for tampering?
the packers own the rights to 2 more years of favre - if he wants to play. since other teams think he is still worth tampering for, i wouldnt cut him just yet either. i dont think yall will find any other gm in the league who would just release him period. he would have to go pacman/henry.
the pack doesnt mind punishing the vikes, who are pretty clueless in some respects, but the real goal is to get bf to be a team player and come to camp OR STICK TO WHAT HE SAID HE WOULD DO IN MARCH.
bf didnt decide to come back till after the pack had moved on. how convenient. he seems to constantly forget - they own the rights to his next 2 seasons and dont have to release him.
and the vikes are just in the same doo doo they were in last year. pretty good overall team except for one little problem at qb.
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