Comments on: FLACCO SIGNING IS IMMINENT http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:38:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Jeremiah W http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57686 Jeremiah W Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:52:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57686 Derek Anderson. Check & Mate? WTF are you talking about? Did not see DA or the Clowns in the playoffs, and I don't expect to see it anytime soon either. Carson my S don't stink Palmer either for that matter. Peyton has only one ring, and ussually sucks in the post season. Defense wins as long as the QB does not blow it. Turnovers and the abillity to run and stop the run are still more important than the QB in reality football. Fantasy football, Peyton and Palmer may win every season. The 2006 Clowns had the worst O line in the AFC N. They added J Thomas, Stenbach and Jamal Lewis, and all of a sudden they have one of the best lines in the division. The truth is they are good on O line because they have 3 really tough options on O that all reqire some form of help for most defenders. The WR needs a S to at least roll coverage. they have a TE who is a mismatch for LBs and safties, and a RB that will ususaly break a tackle and bust over 5 ypc vs a 7 man front. That is Y they have a good looking O line. There just is not enough players left on D to scheme up any fancy blitzes or line stunts, so they can do simple 5 on 4 pass pro and combo block troublesome DTs. Back to the Ravens. They did not have to draft an O lineman in the first round because they got Jared Gaither last year with a 5th round supplimental. He may not be Ogden, but he would have been drafted ahead of at least half the 8 OTs in the first round of this draft had he entered it. Ben Grubbs was our #1 last year and was solid to spectacular at times. Jason Brown got some votes for all pro at LG last year and has been moved back to the C position where he was drafted. Yanda was a 3rd rounder last year started 12 games at RT, but looks like a G and has been slotted at RG. RT is Terry who was a 2nd rounder 4 years ago. The Ravens also drafted 2 guys in the 3rd and 4th for depth. O line may be a question mark, but not a real concern. To your question though, I would rather have a dominant line than all pro QB, but as long as the defense and run blocking is solid, the QB just has to manage the game to win. Derek Anderson. Check & Mate? WTF are you talking about? Did not see DA or the Clowns in the playoffs, and I don’t expect to see it anytime soon either. Carson my S don’t stink Palmer either for that matter. Peyton has only one ring, and ussually sucks in the post season.

Defense wins as long as the QB does not blow it.
Turnovers and the abillity to run and stop the run are still more important than the QB in reality football. Fantasy football, Peyton and Palmer may win every season.

The 2006 Clowns had the worst O line in the AFC N. They added J Thomas, Stenbach and Jamal Lewis, and all of a sudden they have one of the best lines in the division. The truth is they are good on O line because they have 3 really tough options on O that all reqire some form of help for most defenders. The WR needs a S to at least roll coverage. they have a TE who is a mismatch for LBs and safties, and a RB that will ususaly break a tackle and bust over 5 ypc vs a 7 man front.
That is Y they have a good looking O line. There just is not enough players left on D to scheme up any fancy blitzes or line stunts, so they can do simple 5 on 4 pass pro and combo block troublesome DTs.

Back to the Ravens. They did not have to draft an O lineman in the first round because they got Jared Gaither last year with a 5th round supplimental. He may not be Ogden, but he would have been drafted ahead of at least half the 8 OTs in the first round of this draft had he entered it.
Ben Grubbs was our #1 last year and was solid to spectacular at times. Jason Brown got some votes for all pro at LG last year and has been moved back to the C position where he was drafted. Yanda was a 3rd rounder last year started 12 games at RT, but looks like a G and has been slotted at RG. RT is Terry who was a 2nd rounder 4 years ago. The Ravens also drafted 2 guys in the 3rd and 4th for depth.

O line may be a question mark, but not a real concern.

To your question though, I would rather have a dominant line than all pro QB, but as long as the defense and run blocking is solid, the QB just has to manage the game to win.

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]]> By: Chris from MD http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57642 Chris from MD Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:01:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57642 Let me ask all you Raven's fans something: Would you rather have a decent QB and a fantastic offensive line, or a fantastic QB and a decent OL? Really, the Ravens should have went OL in the first round, and taken Chad Henne, Brian Brohm, or any of the other number of QB's available later. I think Flacco will be a bust. Sure, he's got size, a good arm, etc, but so did Kyle Boller, Ryan Leaf, and so many others. Really though, all I need to say is Derek Anderson. Check & Mate. Let me ask all you Raven’s fans something:

Would you rather have a decent QB and a fantastic offensive line, or a fantastic QB and a decent OL?

Really, the Ravens should have went OL in the first round, and taken Chad Henne, Brian Brohm, or any of the other number of QB’s available later.

I think Flacco will be a bust. Sure, he’s got size, a good arm, etc, but so did Kyle Boller, Ryan Leaf, and so many others.

Really though, all I need to say is Derek Anderson. Check & Mate.

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]]> By: ppdoc http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57464 ppdoc Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:00:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57464 Love all you Ravens haters chiming in. Especially the fans of motorcycle Ben and the Offensivelineless Squealers. Bottom line - we will know in a couple of years if Ozzie was right or wrong. Drafting a QB is a crapshoot. Ask the Niners about Alex Smith, the Bungles about Klingler, Akili etc.., The Chargers about Leaf. The signs about Flacco are good. Great arm, learns quickly, doesn't make the same mistake twice. How he plays at game speed is the question. How fast he can get to NFL speed is the question. But with McGahee, Heap, and Mason at least he has some weapons to use. Last time I checked, Cam Cameron has had some success developing QB's. Quake in fear you AFC Northers. We're coming at you with a high intensity coach and a Top Five defense and a new attitude on offense. To the Squealer fans, the Clown fans, and the Bungle fans (all 8 of you) - don't even think about buying tickets this year - your reception will be less than welcoming. Love all you Ravens haters chiming in. Especially the fans of motorcycle Ben and the Offensivelineless Squealers. Bottom line - we will know in a couple of years if Ozzie was right or wrong. Drafting a QB is a crapshoot. Ask the Niners about Alex Smith, the Bungles about Klingler, Akili etc.., The Chargers about Leaf. The signs about Flacco are good. Great arm, learns quickly, doesn’t make the same mistake twice. How he plays at game speed is the question. How fast he can get to NFL speed is the question. But with McGahee, Heap, and Mason at least he has some weapons to use. Last time I checked, Cam Cameron has had some success developing QB’s. Quake in fear you AFC Northers. We’re coming at you with a high intensity coach and a Top Five defense and a new attitude on offense. To the Squealer fans, the Clown fans, and the Bungle fans (all 8 of you) - don’t even think about buying tickets this year - your reception will be less than welcoming.

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]]> By: keeperdude http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57418 keeperdude Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:22:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57418 Who cares how many points Navy scored? He did not have problems beating Navy. His D had problems stopping Navy. Get a clue. Who cares how many points Navy scored? He did not have problems beating Navy. His D had problems stopping Navy. Get a clue.

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]]> By: Jeremiah W http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57264 Jeremiah W Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:51:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57264 "And Navy put up 52" and he was the QB not a DB, what does that have to do with anything? I tink he looks like a great prospect. Only time will tell, but this signing is almost irrelavant since the last thing any Ravens fan I know wants to see is him under center week 1. Unless he plans to re enter the draft, he will be the Ravens QB eventually. Also I really don't want to hear any Bungles or Clowns talking smack about our offense until you A. win a playoff game, or b. at least feild a defense ranked higher than our offense. “And Navy put up 52″ and he was the QB not a DB, what does that have to do with anything?

I tink he looks like a great prospect. Only time will tell, but this signing is almost irrelavant since the last thing any Ravens fan I know wants to see is him under center week 1. Unless he plans to re enter the draft, he will be the Ravens QB eventually.

Also I really don’t want to hear any Bungles or Clowns talking smack about our offense until you A. win a playoff game, or b. at least feild a defense ranked higher than our offense.

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]]> By: Chris from MD http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57248 Chris from MD Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:32:23 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57248 "Hard time beating Navy? He put up 59 pts on Navy. More than Pitt, more than ND. With 1-AA talent" And Navy put up 52 “Hard time beating Navy? He put up 59 pts on Navy. More than Pitt, more than ND. With 1-AA talent”

And Navy put up 52

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]]> By: jgd3rd http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57215 jgd3rd Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:40:47 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57215 It really doesn't matter. Smith should start. After the half-way point of the regular season, Flacko will be the back-up if he signs during camp or shortly afterward. If he signs before camp he might start the year as the back up...this potential signing is not that big of a deal in my opinion. Eventually it will get done. And to all you Ravens haters out there....you better look out. If you overlook the Ravens you'll get an "L'. Remember the Ravens are a much better team when they are hunting (underdogs) than they are when they are being hunted (favorites). This much is certain. The info in "()" are a public service for all the Steeler fans who wouldn't have been able to figure out what was meant otherwise. It really doesn’t matter. Smith should start. After the half-way point of the regular season, Flacko will be the back-up if he signs during camp or shortly afterward. If he signs before camp he might start the year as the back up…this potential signing is not that big of a deal in my opinion. Eventually it will get done.

And to all you Ravens haters out there….you better look out. If you overlook the Ravens you’ll get an “L’. Remember the Ravens are a much better team when they are hunting (underdogs) than they are when they are being hunted (favorites). This much is certain.

The info in “()” are a public service for all the Steeler fans who wouldn’t have been able to figure out what was meant otherwise.

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]]> By: tkebean http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57207 tkebean Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:27:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57207 Boller (you know, the ravens other first round, "surefire" QB) had a cannon arm too. Ravens fans loved him when was drafted too. It all worked out so well. Flacco is the second coming of Boller. Boller (you know, the ravens other first round, “surefire” QB) had a cannon arm too. Ravens fans loved him when was drafted too.

It all worked out so well.

Flacco is the second coming of Boller.

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]]> By: JWBBZ http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57200 JWBBZ Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:10:19 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57200 Flacco for President....this guy's a gamer just watch. The Blackbirds will see benefits in year 2 Flacco for President….this guy’s a gamer just watch. The Blackbirds will see benefits in year 2

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]]> By: FartFaceKilla http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57182 FartFaceKilla Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:45:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57182 Flacco is the MAN!!!! Have any of you actually seen him play in college??? Dudes got a CANNON arm, and great accuracy. He threw the ball like 70 yards at the rookie challenge...and it was a spiral...and it went straight...and he didn't look like he strained himself throwing!!! Hate on him all you want...but if you don't know the details on him...then you just look and act like a moron. Flacco is the MAN!!!!
Have any of you actually seen him play in college???
Dudes got a CANNON arm, and great accuracy.
He threw the ball like 70 yards at the rookie challenge…and it was a spiral…and it went straight…and he didn’t look like he strained himself throwing!!!
Hate on him all you want…but if you don’t know the details on him…then you just look and act like a moron.

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]]> By: keeperdude http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57177 keeperdude Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:41:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57177 Hard time beating Navy? He put up 59 pts on Navy. More than Pitt, more than ND. With 1-AA talent. Hard time beating Navy? He put up 59 pts on Navy. More than Pitt, more than ND. With 1-AA talent.

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]]> By: Bearable http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57158 Bearable Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:21:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57158 Welcome to the basement in the AFC NORTH! This division is as bad as the NFC NORTH!! FLACCO WILL START EARLY IN 2008. THERE IS A RULE IN the NFL with rookie Qb's "They suck the first years" Welcome to the basement in the AFC NORTH! This division is as bad as the NFC NORTH!! FLACCO WILL START EARLY IN 2008. THERE IS A RULE IN the NFL with rookie Qb’s “They suck the first years”

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]]> By: Michael LaRocca http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57128 Michael LaRocca Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:52:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57128 If Flacco signs with Baltimore, Favre's gonna be stuck choosing between Tampa and Canada. If Flacco signs with Baltimore, Favre’s gonna be stuck choosing between Tampa and Canada.

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]]> By: Chris from MD http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57127 Chris from MD Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:52:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57127 I C light pounder: The stillers couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. Why don't you ask Big Ben if he got the number of the track that ran him over a couple years ago. (I'm not a Ravens fan, at all. Can't stand'em, only team I can't stand even more? The Stillers.) I C light pounder:

The stillers couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag. Why don’t you ask Big Ben if he got the number of the track that ran him over a couple years ago.

(I’m not a Ravens fan, at all. Can’t stand’em, only team I can’t stand even more? The Stillers.)

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]]> By: icase81 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57121 icase81 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:41:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57121 E-Nasty: You should not be on the internet! You can't even spell PALKO. E-Nasty:

You should not be on the internet! You can’t even spell PALKO.

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]]> By: philwauke http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57118 philwauke Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:35:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57118 This isn't news. All draft pick signings are imminent. This isn’t news. All draft pick signings are imminent.

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]]> By: I C light pounder http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57100 I C light pounder Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:20:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57100 the ravens suck! please football gods send Farve to this team so the best DEF in the NFL, the Pittsburgh Stillers can knock him on his ass. no contest send in Flacco, Smith, Farve or anyone in that position and the Stillers will crush them Go Stillers the ravens suck! please football gods send Farve to this team so the best DEF in the NFL, the Pittsburgh Stillers can knock him on his ass. no contest send in Flacco, Smith, Farve or anyone in that position and the Stillers will crush them

Go Stillers

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]]> By: dlmcc0202 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57092 dlmcc0202 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:11:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57092 Im confused. Flacco has been practicing with the team right? But he didn't yet sign? Didn't Brady Quinn and Fatso Russell miss practice time because they didn't sign their rookie contracts? Or does that only apply to training camp? Either way, its way too early to try and judge whether Flacco will be a bust or a good QB in the league. Lets see him play some games before we judge. Im confused. Flacco has been practicing with the team right? But he didn’t yet sign? Didn’t Brady Quinn and Fatso Russell miss practice time because they didn’t sign their rookie contracts? Or does that only apply to training camp?

Either way, its way too early to try and judge whether Flacco will be a bust or a good QB in the league. Lets see him play some games before we judge.

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]]> By: Jeremiah W http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57081 Jeremiah W Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:50:10 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57081 WHat does that mean? They have been talking for weeks so they must be close? How about a detail or two? Rumoured amout and terms of the deal or something. You are just filling up the page. WHat does that mean? They have been talking for weeks so they must be close? How about a detail or two? Rumoured amout and terms of the deal or something. You are just filling up the page.

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]]> By: Toeny http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57079 Toeny Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:48:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57079 Sweeet, another qb for the ratbirds to add to their list of failures since Dilf's departure. Sweeet, another qb for the ratbirds to add to their list of failures since Dilf’s departure.

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]]> By: E-Nasty http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57076 E-Nasty Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:44:10 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57076 This guy should NOT have been a 1st round pick. He couldn't even beat out Tyler Falko. This guy should NOT have been a 1st round pick. He couldn’t even beat out Tyler Falko.

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]]> By: WhoDeyThinkGonnaBeatDemBengals http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57075 WhoDeyThinkGonnaBeatDemBengals Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:43:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57075 This guy has not thrown an NFL pass, yet the "experts" would lead you to believe he is the next coming of Joe Montana. Of course these are the same guys who tabbed Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Cade McNown and Kyle Boller as can't miss players. Face it Baltimore, if you go with a rookie this season you are staring at 6-10. Give Troy Smith the ball for a few weeks and see how he performs. This guy has not thrown an NFL pass, yet the “experts” would lead you to believe he is the next coming of Joe Montana. Of course these are the same guys who tabbed Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Cade McNown and Kyle Boller as can’t miss players.

Face it Baltimore, if you go with a rookie this season you are staring at 6-10. Give Troy Smith the ball for a few weeks and see how he performs.

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]]> By: Richkotite http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57073 Richkotite Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:39:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57073 Who gives a flyin' Flacco? He won't be ready for at least a year. We want King Diva Favre so we can win now!! Who gives a flyin’ Flacco? He won’t be ready for at least a year. We want King Diva Favre so we can win now!!

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]]> By: tkebean http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57069 tkebean Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:37:26 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57069 Flacco couldn't beat out Palko...yeah, he's going to be great. This ought to keep Baltimore's QB situation muddled for few more years. Flacco couldn’t beat out Palko…yeah, he’s going to be great.

This ought to keep Baltimore’s QB situation muddled for few more years.

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]]> By: Chris from MD http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57064 Chris from MD Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:27:49 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/16/flacco-signing-is-imminent/#comment-57064 And Ravens' fans love this kid even though he had a hard time beating Navy. I personally think they should have went offensive line. It doesn't matter what QB is behind that porous offensive line, if he can't stay upright, he can't make the throws. And Ravens’ fans love this kid even though he had a hard time beating Navy.

I personally think they should have went offensive line. It doesn’t matter what QB is behind that porous offensive line, if he can’t stay upright, he can’t make the throws.

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