Packers G.M. Ted Thompson might have been feeling neglected while he watched on Monday night Part One of the Brett Favre interview. After all, it was coach Mike McCarthy and not Thompson who was mentioned most often by Brett, primarily with respect to the perceived effort to force him to decide whether to retire in March and then with respect to the attempt to persuade him not to press for a chance to return with another team in June.
But Thompson gets his share of attention, in Part Two.
According to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, Favre slams Thompson in the segment that will air Tuesday night on Fox News, and Favre points to three incidents that caused him to not trust Thompson.
First was Favre’s desire that the team add receiver Randy Moss in 2007. We reported, numerous times, that Favre was actively lobbying the team to acquire Moss after two failed seasons with the Raiders. There was also a rumor that the team’s failure to try to land the star receiver, who revived his career in a big way with the Patriots last season, prompted Favre to make noise about leaving the team. Though it’s still unclear whether the latter proposition is accurate, it’s now obvious that Favre wanted Moss — and that Favre didn’t appreciate Thompson’s decision not to be honest about that fact with the public.
“I worked my butt off . . . to try to get them to sign Randy Moss,” Favre told Fox News.
Second, Favre says he tried to get Thompson to re-sign guards Marco Rivera and Mike Wahle, both of whom left via free agency.
Third, Favre pushed hard for Thompson to consider hiring former 49ers and Lions coach Steve Mariucci, but Thompson rebuffed Brett, hiring Mike McCarthy instead.
“[N]one of those had anything to do with me retiring once again,” Favre says, “but, you know, it’s hard for me to trust, you know, this guy when I — either I’m told one thing and everyone else is told another, or he’s telling the public one thing and telling me another. And so — and that’s part of the reason for the [request for a] release.”
So Favre didn’t retire from the Packers because of mistrust for Thompson, but now Favre wants out in part because he doesn’t trust Thompson.
But, Brett, didn’t you say you want out because the Packers told you that they don’t want you to play?
More importantly, Brett, when did you become the quarterback/General Manager of the Packers?
Maybe we finally understand why Favre kept quiet for so long on this topic. Now that he’s opening his mouth, he’s sounding like an idiot.
Regarding this apparent effort to smear Thompson by dredging up outdated and irrelevant pisses and/or moans, Favre needs to realize that he hasn’t always been truthful, either. On July 2, for example, he said that the talk of his desire to return is “rumor” and that there’s “[n]o reason for it.”
So before Brett says “you know, it’s hard for me to trust, you know, this guy when I — either I’m told one thing and everyone else is told another, or he’s telling the public one thing and telling me another,” Favre should ask “this guy” in the mirror whether he has been doing the very same thing.
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July 15th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Bf wasn’t the gm and doesn’t get credit for personnel decisions either way.
He looks like an indecisive fool.
Can u see a bart starr acting this way?
He is trying to also drive a wedge into the locker room and who knows how that will play out after this year.
It’s all about him, his ego is as big as all outdoors.
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July 15th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
McCarthy has proven to be a good coach.
Wahle and Rivera have proven to be over the hill.
The Packers’ WR corp has proven to be a top 5 group.
I love you, Brett; but it’s a damn good thing Ted doesn’t listen to you.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
“how does this guy cram being gm, head coach and qb all into one workaday schedule.”
You forgot “selfless saint”.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Actually, Thompson did more than get lucky on some draft picks. He knew when to cut ties with Javon Walker (great decision), he was one of the few teams willing to pay Woodson that kind of money (great move), he let Ahman Green walk last season (good move), etc.
If you look at their starters (not touching the QB one), Thompson made a shrewd trade for the RB and underrated signing for the TE, drafted the FB, one WR, two interior OL, one DT (Jolly or Harrell, whoever starts) two LBs, both Safeties (actually, Bigby was an UDFA I believe), and the kicker, and also made another good signing in Pickett. That’s all since 2005. I call that a great start.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
What is going on with Mr. Favre here? GM’s are the ones that make the decisions for what players are best for the team, not the players. Use as example one Michael Jordan. MJ never had a say in the players that came to Chicago and they played just fine. Suddenly he gets GM jobs in Washington and Charlotte and every draft pick sucks! There is a reason that there is a division of labor between the players playing the game and the guys making the decisions on who those players should be for each team. On his whinning about Moss, there is no guarantee that Moss would have been as good in Green Bay as he is in New England. He could have decided he hated cheese and complained about being in Wisconsin because of it!
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Favre is no more selfish than any other NFL player.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
I’ve always hated the way Brett Favre played. Guy just heaves up the rock; hopes something good happens. In his 13th year — or even in his “last” season (2008 edition) — the guy always has moments of pure desperation, when he forgets he’s an aging athlete on a field of juiced-up science experiments(hey, look at Donovan McNabb today versus 2000 — is that just Campbell Soup that’s made him look, ahem, much more “muscular”? See — I sh*t where I eat, too, cuz I’m a Philly fan!!). I have marvelled at a “what a great leader” the guy is, and what “a great quarterback” — because that’s what John Madden and Peter King of told me (so it must be right, eh?!). B-S!!!
Now, I can legitimately hate Brett Favre, even more than I did after the 2006 season, when it was this same parade of “oh, what will BRETT do? Will he or won’t he? Will he let his team know before the draft? Oh, it’s June and we still don’t know about poor Brett… is his heart in it anymore? Does the team LOVE HIM unconditionally? Why did the girl in college get upset when he walked into the room, drunk on like 6 or 7 beers and with his penis exposed, wanting sex? …. Ooops! Sorry! Wrong late-round QB I’m talking about there … I almost thought we were talking about the Redskins again!! Sorry about that!!!
Anyway, back on “oh, is Ted Thompson wiping the immortal ass of Brett Favre the right way?!” Let’s ask Brett’s brother, Dip-shiztz “Coat-tails” Favre, what he thinks:
“I think that Brett has been hosed here [burp!]. The Packers didn’t even really try to get Randy Moss last year — they wanted to put in some ‘good behavior’ clauses into his contract, like his mooning the fans in Lambeau was all that big of a deal [fart!]. I means, his teammates, his receivers and that O-Line, they just suck SO BAD. And the fans, man, who would want to play another decade in that Godforesaken place. It ranks of rotten cheese. [Burp! Fart!] They just all so suck. But if they would just let him role the franchise, like in “Madden: Franchise”, he might come back for a couple of games. Oh, and they gotta put his very smarty bro in a the coach job two.”
Ya, when I read that over at Brett’s “Official Web Site”, I just finally had it. Green Bay fans should recall, as the Diety Brett Favre too should note, that football is a “team game”, including the coaching and support staffs that make it all possible for a guy to play like 17 years — instead of sucking in all-time obscurity as a back-up as Brett did before G.B got him.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Since I’m a Pats fan, I remember the Randy Moss trade very well. New England was realistically the only team who could have signed him. They were the only team he was willing to renegotiate his contract for. He wants to go to a team that had a change at the playoffs/super bowl. I believe the previous year the Packers had only won 4 games. Brett, I agree that you should be the starting QB of the Packers right now. I think you’re more proven and better than anyone else they’ve got at the position, but stop blaming the GM for his inability to sign one player who had no interest in going there in the first place.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
“Brett Favre”
From hero to Ass in less than 60 min .
He should kissing Ted Thompson Ass for getting Mccarthy in there.Brett Favre –What a Freaking jerk.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
“There is not a GM in the NFL who did not blow it by not offering the Raiders a 3rd rounder for Moss since the Pats got him for a 4th and he set the record for TDs.”
You’re forgetting the fact that Moss was going to go only where he wanted to go.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Once again…all you haters. Rivera and Wahle were dominating in our system even though they didn’t do much elsewhere. Here they were the best in the league and after they left, the Packers line was horrible for years. Brett was beat to a pulp with the replacements.
About the coach, at the time, who knew MaCarthy was so good. All he was saying is that he pushed for Mooch, TT led him to believe he was agreeing with Brett and went elsewhere. You don’t hear Brett complaining about our coach now. Wake up. That’s not what he’s saying…he’s saying, TT lied his little white head off and blew off all of his suggestions.
He should have a small say in things. Tom Brady does. Montana did. Peyton does. Brett turned this franchise around and you can’t even let him give an opinion? Wow. Come on Packer fans. Don’t let this pinheads article sway you against the best thing that’s ever happened to the Pack.
And TT should be flogged by the whole Moss thing. Brett offers to give him part of his salary and you lowball the guy with a joke offer. Right!
Stop letting these guys that write these articles get to you. They’re doing it just to have you read their crap. Stop questioning your loyalty to Favre and stop listening to all these armchair bonehead reporters who write here even though they..A…are not Packer fans or B….don’t know the facts.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Memo to all you who say “they should have signed Moss — that Favre is right about that?”
Oh ya, based on what? The Patriots with Randy Moss won a bunch of meaningless regular season games and then collapsed in the Super Bowl. And, they also had Wes Welker and Donte Stallworth, too, not to mention a great O-line.
Seems like Thompson got the Packers the talent that almost got them the same result — without the huge headache that Randy Moss would have been in GB. And, you know Favre — with a guy like Moss on the field, Favre would have had 10 more INTs, at least, as every time he felt “pressure”, he would be sure to make another wounded duck, ill-advised pass to Moss, who would be triple-covered every play.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
“Brett was lied to and is only guilty of changing his mind.”
Please remove Brett’s jock strap from your head. Even assuming TT did not do something as promised (read: “as Brett Farve wanted”), why are TT actions considered “lying” while Brett’s actions are merely considered “chaning [ones] mind”.
Did Brett not promise he was retiring? Did Brett not reiterate that position to TT when TT asked him if he was considering coming back in the offseason? Please, Brett is the one who put Brett and the Packers in this position. I realize your president of the Brett Favre fan club but considering Favre’s actions over the past three offseasons, its undeniable that Brett Favre loves him some Brett Favre and thats about it.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
I’m as sick of this story as everyone else is. I remember thinking when he “retired” that it didn’t make any sense. It’s one thing to go out on a great season or on top of the mountain, but to go out throwing a god awful pass in the NFC title game in OT, nobody wants to end a career like that, especially not a first ballot HOF. I’m fine with the Pack saying they’re done with him and yes Favre is making himself look worse by the day. That being said the Pack can not not have their cake and eat it too. Everyone knows that he is the best QB they have right now but it sounds like an open competition will not be a fair one. Can anyone see MM/TT letting him take back the reigns after all this crap?
If you have no intentions on letting him play you have to cut him or try and get the best value you can get from him. Favre’s agent should be creative, have him traded to the AFC in a wink wink deal and move him from there back into the North. Everyone else in the country wants this to happen.
As much as an idiot he’s coming off as he can clearly still get it done, let the guy play, see if he can come back to Lambeu and kick your ass. If he’s not your #1 than you should be able to handle it.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
You know, Brett Favre knows that he’s not the General Manager. So, let’s not get into that. And, don’t complain that he’s doing that. Someone on here wrote earlier exactly what winning teams do using the example that if Tom Brady wants Randy Moss, he gets him. Unfortunately, I agree with that, and that was written by a Patriots fan…but that’s neither here nor there. Brett should be taken on his ability(one), his extensive knowledge of the game(two), and what components he knows he needs to succeed(three). Good teams do this! They listen to their quarterback’s needs.
What really matters is that this is all Ted Thompson to Ted Thompson. He drafted Aaron Rodgers and these other two quarterbacks this year and wants to see the fruits of his GM position. He is turning Green Bay into a corporate entity which is fine, but that’s not what Green Bay is about. So, if he wants to do that he needs to go somewhere else. Green Bay is about empty streets on Sundays, watching football huddled together with blankets at Lambeau, wearing “Cheese-heads”, Green Bay is about passion for football, Green Bay is about Brett Favre.
Here’s Ted’s dilemma: He’s got an expensive unproven QB, He’s got a proven veteran QB that’s also expensive, and he just signed two rookie QB’s in case said expensive unproven QB fails. No-one uses 4 QB’s(unless you’re the 49ers a couple years ago.) He made the Randy Moss mistake by not signing him cheap when Brett wanted him. And, the big AND, he’s starting to trash-talk Brett Favre through the head coach Mike McCarthy. Who does that?
Every move that Ted has made and is making digs a deeper grave for himself. He’s not going to win this one. He’s going to have to go. He might win the immediate battle of wills, but the fan base is going to revolt and be in upheaval against him, similar to that of Matt Millen(Lions GM.) If you want to move on, move on when Brett says you can move on, not before.
Brett Favre is not being a diva as some have put it or trying to get un-necessary attention either. He’s just trying to do what’s right for him and defend himself after being backed in a corner by Ted Thompson. Not letting the man play Ted? Not releasing him? Come on. He’s not your slave…he’s not a slave period. Right now, if Ted Thompson denies Favre whatever he wants he’ll be a hunted man. If Brett wants to play for another team and stinks, who cares? He’ll enjoy it and get out, but let him do it on his terms.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Ok, I’m a Packer fan to the death and I love[d] Brett. That said, who in the hell does he think he is? The way he’s talking, it’s like everyone should “consult” him before make any decisions whatsoever regarding the team. He IS NOT the Packers! Unfortunately, he thinks that everything revolves around him. It’s time to shut up and disappear on his land. He has irreparably damaged his image and “legacy” permanently. He could have been remembered as a legend and now he looks like a DIVA.
Oh, Favre, we need to paint the walls in Lambeau’s restrooms, what color do you want us to use?
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Let’s see Favre want’s to tell the team who to hire as for as players hell he even want’s to tell them you to have for GM and HC.
If everyone takes a real good look at what Favre has said over the past since the hiring TT it becomes evident that Favre wants it the way it used to be,not having to go to OTA’s hardly any parcipatation at training camp.
There is no question Favre wants it like it was with the old coaching staff where it was what ever Favre boy wants Favre boy gets
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Let me get this straight. You bash the GM for not getting you Randy Moss yet you have one of your best years, statistically, have the NFC Championship game AT HOME in a blizzard and throw a wounded duck that gets picked off in OT and leads to the winning FG…then you say you don’t have it in you anymore for what is required Mon-Sat in the NFL but later say you retired early because you felt pressured by the organization to make a decision? Mr Favre, as a budding GM, you should know that it’s important to know who will be coming back next year so that you can make the proper adjustments to your roster in the offseason…
As a Brett Favre fan this is a very disappointing way to end an otherwise HOF career. Unfortunately, it probably sheds some light on what kind of a ‘team’ player he really was.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Moss hung up on the Packers when they let him know he had to keep his behavior in check in GB before a potential trade at the time, plus over half the Packer fans did NOT want Moss due to his tasteless mooning incident at Lambeau. Thats why Moss isn’t a Packer. Get over it 4.
Both sides need to swallow some pride as its best for all that he starts in GB this year. Give Rodgers a new contract. If he’s a bust he’s a bust but we can’t afford to lose him. He was expecting to sit this year anyway as everyone was surprised that favre retired with such a good team on hand.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Is retard.com/blog re-directing to this URL?
“You have a new, ego driven, GM in T.T. who is trying to control the team and create whatever his vision may be.”
Heaven’s no! A general manager who - gasp! - wants to control the team AND SHAPE IT INTO HIS VISION?! Please, stop Ted Thompson before he lets Mike McCarty call the plays on the field!
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
“First of all. All of you who aren’t Packer fans should zip it.”
Yeah okay. Actually, Packers fans are the ones who should STFU. At least WE can look at the issue with an un-biased and objective perspective. All the Favre Homers (doesn’t seem to be too many of you) are placing the player before the team. What’s happening to Brett Favre is in the best interest of the Green Bay Packers’ “big picture”. You Favre-worshippers should be siding with the Packers…..who will be there trying to compete long after Brett Favre is gone. You don’t sabatoge the future of the team so one egomaniac QB can get another year squeezed into his career. Hell, the vast majority of Packers fans seem to be siding with the Packers.
And yes, Brett Favre has lied to the media and lied to the fans. He said last night he’s “never envisioned playing with another team”……and yet he asked for his release (because he doesn’t envision playing for another team of course). And now we’re hearing reports that he may be headed for Washington. Yep, he’s never thought about playing for anybody else. LOL. SO FUNNY that all Favre’s brain-dead sheep followers aren’t sticking it to him for ending his career with another team. Brett has done this to himself, nobody has done this to him.
But keep staging those rallies, maybe by the time training camp rolls around you might actually have attracted more than a couple hundred people cumulatively. Green Bay has moved on from Brett Favre.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
“…move on when Brett says you can move on.”
This is exactly the position that TT has allowed to take place, and he’s finally begun to think about putting his foot down. His actual error here is that he hasn’t been putting his foot down emphatically enough. This crap about being a backup is just silly.
Anyway, Favre DID say they could move on, so TT did. They drafted another set of QBs and are ready to get the guy in that looked pretty good last year in limited time. And as soon as Aaron Rodgers starts to assert himself… Brett Favre comes rolling around, with his family “leaking” the idea that he might want to play again.
TT hasn’t been a perfect GM with regards to Brett Favre, but it’s not because he’s rebuffed Favre - it’s that he’s been a p*ssy about it. Virtually everything else Thompson has done has been the correct thing. Their finances are tight, their team is one of the elite teams in the NFC even with Aaron Rodgers (see footballoutsiders.com).
Put your foot down, Thompson! The more you hem and haw about it, the more leverage and opportunity you give for Favre to undermine you. Get it over with and trade him for a third-round/second-round conditional pick. There’s nothing Favre can do about it except keep squawking and lowering his trade value; he can either retire, or play for the team you send him to.
It’s almost like Thompson is hoping Favre will file the retirement papers AFTER he’s declared that he wants to play. Fat chance. And it’s almost like Favre expects Thompson to release him to play for the Vikings. Yea, fat chance. Time to start getting warmed up for your Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Brett.
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July 15th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
I keep reading how worthless he must be, but I don’t see the Packer fans screaming for them to just cut him. Which is it?
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July 15th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Anyone up for going down to Lambeau this Sunday and having a rally in support of TT?
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July 15th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
One thing I take issue with here is “Randy Moss’s tasteless mooning incident”. from what I read this is a tradition that the Packer fans bestow on visiting teams when they arrive or leave on the team bus (they moon them for real). Moss was simply giving some of it back to the fans, this is after all a great rivalry no? Is that tasteless? Unless the story I read was wrong don’t hate on the guy because he was having fun with the fans, you sound like Joe Buck, that guy is a freaking clown!
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