In an exclusive interview with Greta Van Susteren of Fox News, quarterback Brett Favre claims that the Green Bay Packers want him to play neither for them nor for anyone else.
Several minutes in to an often rambling monologue with few moments of clear, succinct thought, Favre delivered the key contention: “I was told that playing in Green Bay was not an option, regardless of what you hear from up there, and, you know, I’m not making it up. I was told that playing in Green Bay was not an option. And then I was told that we can’t imagine you playing or can’t envision you playing with another team as well. What does that tell me? It tells me we don’t want you playing, period.”
But Favre himself says that he “can’t envision being with anyone else” and “haven’t envisioned being with anyone else,” despite the fact that he asked for his unconditional release only three days ago.
That obvious point was never brought up by the interviewer, who interrupted Brett’s stream of consciousness from time to time only to lob meaningless softballs.
As one point, for example, Van Susteren asked Favre if he has filed any official retirement papers. And as we’ve pointed out a few dozen times in this space, the question of whether he has filed any official retirement papers is meaningless. If he didn’t file them, he can unretire. If he filed them, he can still unretire.
She also mentioned that Favre’s back-and-forth deliberations as to whether he’ll retire have happened in past years, and in so doing implied that the Packers should have expected him to do it again. A more balanced interviewer would have included, at a minimum, a question pressing him to address why he has opted to permit his annual will-I-or-won’t-I-retire considerations to become a matter of public record, discourse, and speculation.
As to the initial outcome of this year’s round of “I’m A Grown Man Who Can’t Make A Decision,” Favre strongly implies that coach Mike McCarthy pushed him into making that decision as to whether to retire in March, at a time when Favre was not prepared to make the full commitment to play football. Favre also points out that McCarthy has said that he knew Favre would have second thoughts, which points to an inference that the Packers preyed on Favre for a decision at a time when they knew he was likely to decide to retire.
Favre claims that, during his retirement press conference, he “sort of left the door open” about returning. And on June 20 he tried to go through that door. When he met resistance about returning, he told McCarthy, “So that mean’s either you give me my helmet, welcome back, you release me, or you attempt to trade me.”
The team’s resistance to letting him play for another team supposedly, per Favre, arises from its desire to protect Favre’s legacy. “Apparently now they’re wanting to protect my legacy by bringing me back and having me be a backup. Boy, that is really good.”
Though we’ve concluded that Favre is being a bit of a diva (our case was made for SportingNews.com on Monday), the notion that the Packers have tried to steer him into not playing anywhere seems to be credible, and it causes us to conclude that both sides share blame on this one.
Still, if Brett wants to play, he needs to merely show up and play. While he thinks that the Packers have in some way “done him wrong,” they’re due to pay him $12 million in 2008, which will become fully guaranteed if he’s on the roster on opening day.
We should all be so wronged by our employers.
Anyway, there’s a second part of the interview, which will be aired on Tuesday night. And we really can’t stand such obvious ploys to increase ratings.
And did we mention that our latest take on Favre as a diva can be seen right here?
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July 15th, 2008 at 8:14 am
“Though we’ve concluded that Favre is being a bit of a diva… it leads us to conclude that both sides share blame on this one.”
Hey Mr. Mike,
I think your attention to this story has been instrumental, and that your words here as quoted above are key. There’s no doubt that Favre spoke hastily and impulsively at the end of the season when he was physically spent and emotionally exhausted.
However, I’m stuck on the point about How A Marquis QB Deserves To Be Treated at this stage of his career. I feel strongly that he deserves to call his own shot. I think the Packers owe it to Favre to let him come back as the starter or release him.
Do the Packers somehow owe it to Aaron Rogers to protect his psyche from the mean old veteran in case he ever gets on the field and actually accomplishes something? By comparison to Favre, I don’t think they owe Rogers anything.
Do the Packers owe it their own organization to make sure they hurry up and move on to Glory Days so much greater than the recent past? I don’t beleive so. The Packers had been in the doldrums for almost 30 years before Brett got started in the mid ’90’s.
Brett has been prolific. He has almost single-handedly written a new modern legacy for a storied NFL franchise. If Brett is not the guy to call his own shot in his last year or two, then who is? Who will ever be?
He’s physically able and mentally ready. He’s got a decent team around him. He’s one of the top 10 or so to ever play. Let him call his own shot, I say. What’s the rush to do anything else? What’s the argument against it that makes any sense?
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July 15th, 2008 at 8:14 am
There are always two sides of story. We need to hear more from Brett and maybe give the Packers a chance to rebuttal before we can judge the whole situation.
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July 15th, 2008 at 8:16 am
I thought when Favre retired a couple months ago that he made the right decision; however, how can he blame the team for not wanting him back? They spent 2 (2!) draft picks on QB’s this offseason in order to rebuild after Favre and now he expects them to just take him back regardless. The team is more important than one player and draft picks are one of the most important things for a team that is trying to rebuild.
It boggles my mind why Favre can’t understand why the coaching staff and above don’t like the situation they are in. Hasn’t he been around the league long enough to know that teams use draft picks to address needs and for the future, but Favre wants to cripple the team into keeping him or releasing him and subsequently having to play against him at somepoint (if he signs with an NFC team).
This whole thing is a joke and Favre is tarnishing his record as being one of the greats. Going on Fox News and acting like the good guy in this situation makes me think that he really doesn’t care about who he manages to screw over just so he can play again. I wish one of the questions asked would be something like, “Do you think it’s reasonable for the Packers to take two rookie quarterbacks in the NFL Draft and then welcome you back with open arms even though you retired?”
Or how about, “Would you be willing to play again for less than $12 million if you love the game so much and just want to play for anyone no matter what the price?”
I’d be interested to know if this is more about money than actual love of the game.
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July 15th, 2008 at 8:16 am
Now we hear from Brett.
Brett, playing in Green Bay is not an option.
Watching you suit up in another uniform is not an option either.
TT/MM decided it was time to retire #4, problem is, Brett is the one to make the decision, not TT/MM.
TT/MM have shown a special arrogance, one that decides when to send a legend out to pasture.
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July 15th, 2008 at 8:17 am
Favre is the psycho ex-girlfriend keying your car and providing sexual favors to all your friends out of revenge for your breaking up with (him)her.
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July 15th, 2008 at 8:23 am
“That obvious point was never brought up by the interviewer, who interrupted Brett’s stream of consciousness from time to time only to lob meaningless softballs”
…described that interview perfectly.
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July 15th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Hey Florio and everyone ripping of Favre, let me ask you a question. If you retired from your job after being forced into a decision and then 3 months later decided you wanted to work again, how would you feel if your boss told you that you were not allowed to work at your old job or to find a new one? You would be really upset. So get off off Favres back ok.
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July 15th, 2008 at 8:34 am
Hey to all of you ripping Favre, how would you feel if you were forced into early retirement and then your boss told you that you could not work at your old job or any job. You would be really upset. So Get off Favres back.
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July 15th, 2008 at 8:40 am
Cornflorio…nice dig at the only real news network at the end there.
Anyway, Favre did this to himself, year after year with his retirement talk…the Packers spent the entire off season gearing the offense to a differnt QB and drafting picks based on Favre being gone…now, he sees nothing wrong with it…”Arrogance” by the Packers organization?? Are you kidding me…I’m a Packer fan, but Favre is a little kid who couldn’t decide between a dilly bar and an ice cream sandwich…
Favre, from a Packer fan, if you weren’t too lazy after your sweet INT (gag) last year in OT to want to work out and stay in shape over the off season, you are better off throwing your interception sfor an AFC team. I love him as much as the next Packer fan, but this debacle has got to stop. TT/MM are perfectly correct here, Favre, now YOU sleep in the bed YOU made. AND STOP THROWING YOUR TEAM UNDER THE BUS FOR YOUR MISTAKE! Shut up, and you’ll get your chance to be traded to an AFC team.
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July 15th, 2008 at 8:42 am
Brett Favre has held this team hostage for the past 3 offseasons. Now, he finally retires, decides to unretire in March and 2 days before the announcement that he is coming back, decides to retire again. Are you kidding me? What is this team supposed to do? Brett Favre is not the ENTIRE Packers football team and it is time for him to knock it off. He’s arrogant and thinks the team owes him whatever he wants. Sure he was the best the Packers had, but they were damn good to him as well. 2 wasted first round picks on a QB when deep down he know fully well he was coming back. I hope he comes back and throw 100 interceptions. Dude thinks it’s ALL about him ALL the time.
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July 15th, 2008 at 8:46 am
I don’t get all the people saying that Brett should be allowed to do whatever he wants, simply because he’s been around for a long time. He DID make the call - when he signed a contract that has three years left on it. This is yet one more decision he’s made that he’s now stuck with and hating, but sure to blame someone else for.
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July 15th, 2008 at 8:51 am
He ruined his legacy when he decided to do this interview with Greta.
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July 15th, 2008 at 8:53 am
Today’s superstar multimillion dollar athletes aggravate me as much as anyone. But Farve IS the Packers- he is the one that made them relevant again. If anyone deserves a benefit of the doubt or ’special treatment’ hasn’t someone like Favre earned that right??
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July 15th, 2008 at 8:56 am
@ Tom,
You can’t tell a guy like Brett that he can’t play for the Pack and he can’t play anywhere else either. He’s got a right to work if he’s able…
@ Jim_R,
Hey, sounds like a personal problem, my man… LOL
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July 15th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Long time Packer fan here. I totally disagree with the way the Packers are handeling this. Yes, Favres a drama queen, but after all he’s done, he dose not deserve to be treated this way.
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July 15th, 2008 at 9:02 am
Tom: “It boggles my mind why Favre can’t understand why the coaching staff and above don’t like the situation they are in.”
I think it was pretty clear that Favre understands this. What he doesn’t understand is why they won’t let him play elsewhere.
I think I am one of the only under-30 Packer fans who remembers life before Favre. Favre is not the Packers. But I do think he deserves to call his own shots. Both sides are equally to blame here. From the sounds of it, they did want him back after the season (MM tried to convince him to stay) and when he first waffled in late March. It is pretty rough for Favre to say he wants to come back a month before training camp, but, hey, maybe he’s earned it. As someone pointed out, the reasons Favre wants to come back are the reasons that have made him one of the most beloved and legendary players of all time (commentors here notwithstanding). I think he does give the Pack the best shot this season, and I say let him play.
BTW, the whole interview is right here: http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2314390&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b0c12f2749
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July 15th, 2008 at 9:02 am
How about this solution… Favre, Cook, Thompson, McCarthy and Rodgers all sit down in a room together and come up with a list of viable options (start Favre, release Favre, trade Favre, trade Rodgers, etc.) then submit the list to the shareholders for a vote. The team is owned by the community, so let the community decide. That releases the burden of the decision from Packers management and for once the FANS have a voice. Love that democracy!
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July 15th, 2008 at 9:07 am
You know, when I heard he was doing the interview with someone from Appleton, a supposed Packer fan, I hoped that maybe she would ask some of the tough questions, such as why he had his mom (his mom for christ’s sake, he’s 38 years old) talking for him on national TV, trying to throw the Packers GM under the bus.
But that was naive. The only way he’s doing an interview is if it’s 100% controllable. Surprisingly, a journalist sold out their integrity (not getting into whether she had any before, I don’t bother watching political shows) to get ratings.
This all could’ve been done silently, until the Pack had made the decision to keep him (as open competition) or trade him (to a Favre-approved team) avoiding the media shitstorm and leaving Florio with 71% fewer articles the past couple of weeks and the douchebags at ESPN more free time to figure out which city’s nickname to steal next. The Packers sure as hell had nothing to gain by leaking this to the media.
What’s sad is I could feel my mind changing by this interview. Maybe he wasn’t a bad guy after all. However, knowing all the other issues surrounding this, I still think he takes most of the blame. I bet it swayed a lot of people, though. I bet this Sunday Lambeau has a few more tailgaters. And the circus continues.
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July 15th, 2008 at 9:07 am
The Packers leadership is just being plain stupid on this one. They have every right to be frustrated with Favre’s indecision(s), but the fact of the matter is that Favre is going to be their starter this year and he gives their Super Bowl caliber team the best chance to win this year. There is no other feasible option.
Instead of keeping their distaste for Favre’s return in-house, however, they chose to go on a P.R. rampage about it despite the fact the end result (Favre will start) was inevitable.
As soon as Favre decided to come back, they should have recognized this inevitability, publicly welcomed him back, and privately aired their grievances to Brett. At least then they’d save some face.
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July 15th, 2008 at 9:11 am
I think it is a shame that Brett’s feeling trump the entire organization. Maybe everyone else has a feeling that they want to move on, but since Brett is this iconic figure he gets to determine the fate of the franchise. Maybe they would do better this year with Favre, but I also think they would suffer more in the long run, and it would all be to satisfy his massive ego. And if the Packers own his right to play, they can decide to ship him somewhere or let him rot on the bench. He needs to go away and let the Packers organization, its fans, and the NFL move on. Buh-bye.
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July 15th, 2008 at 9:13 am
“We should all be so wronged by our employers.”
Florio, being the proponent of fairness and balance in reporting that you are…
The Packers have been saved from the uncertain future of Aaron Rodgers during the brief window of opportunity their Super Bowl caliber team presents. Pro Bowl quarterback Brett Favre has decided to return following a career year, giving the Packers a significantly better chance of winning the Super Bowl.
We should all be so wronged by our employees.
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July 15th, 2008 at 9:23 am
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@ Jim_R,
Hey, sounds like a personal problem, my man… LOL
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ROFL! He’s quite the diva. I feel so bad for the Packers organization, players and fans. Favre is PO’d because his attempts to play the role of GM were rebuffed, and his incessant flip-flopping at the expense of the team’s ability to plan for the upcoming season and the future weren’t secondary to Favre’s wishes. Boo Hoo, Brett. Multi-million dollars for an athelete who can’t make up his mind and can’t commit and can’t handle practice and meetings and cold weather absolutely breaks my heart. Poor baby. Poor, poor baby. We should beg Brett to come back. We should throw everything under the bus for our special diva. ROFLMAO!
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July 15th, 2008 at 9:26 am
“how would you feel if you were forced into early retirement”
Bert Farve wasn’t forced to do anything.
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July 15th, 2008 at 9:29 am
“You can’t tell a guy like Brett that he can’t play for the Pack and he can’t play anywhere else either. He’s got a right to work if he’s able…
Right. Tell Bert that Jack in the Box is hiring.
What, you thought that he has a right to work IN THE NFL? Think again.
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July 15th, 2008 at 9:31 am
“the fact of the matter is that Favre is going to be their starter this year and he gives their Super Bowl caliber team the best chance to win this year. There is no other feasible option.”
I dunno man, I think you need to look the word “feasible” up.
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