In the wake of quarterback Brett Favre’s request for a release from the Green Bay Packers, Peter King of SI.com opines that the Packers aren’t likely to comply because Favre is angling to play for the Minnesota Vikings.
King points out that the offensive coordinator in Minnesota is Darrell Bevell, who served for three years as Favre’s quarterbacks coach in Green Bay, from 2003 to 2005.
Thus, King believes that, but for a gentleman’s agreement pursuant to which Favre agrees not to play for the Vikings or any other team in the NFC North, the Packers won’t let him go.
As we recently pointed out, league rules prohibit the Packers from imposing any restrictions on a release. So it would take a gentleman’s agreement to keep Favre out of purple – and as such it would be unenforceable if Favre opts to renege.
But with the Packers claiming that they intend to “do what’s right and in the best interest of the team,” our question is whether the Packers can really do both. It’s in the teams best interests (and in the best interests of G.M. Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy) for Favre to play for no one, if he’s not playing for the Packers. But does blocking him from playing for another team constitute doing “what’s right”?
It’s a topic on which reasonable minds can differ. On one hand, it could be argued that Favre has earned a chance to leave, if the team doesn’t want to make him the starter. On the other hand, it could be argued that Favre created this mess with his wishy-washiness (as depicted in the latest Taco Bill offering) is under contract with the Packers for two more years, and if he’s going to play for anyone, it’s going to be the Packers.
In our view, the Packers lose the upper hand by making the ridiculous suggestion that they’d pay Favre $12 million to be the backup to Aaron Rodgers. We believe that it’s a ploy to force Favre to stay on his farm, thinking that he’s not likely to come back to Green Bay if he’s not the starter — and if he’d be a distraction on the bench.
If we were advising Favre, we’d tell him to call the bluff and show up for camp. The worst-case scenario is that he’d make $12 million while suffering no wear and tear on his soon-to-be 39-year-old body.
But we doubt it would come to that. Eventually, the the Packers’ penny-pinching G.M. wouldn’t be able to justify keeping him around at that kind of a salary, and public pressure would mount to either make Favre the starter or let him try to win the job elsewhere.
The only guarantee is that this one is bound to get uglier before it gets any prettier. Favre might have a heart of gold, but he’s got a head of diamond, and if he has decided that he wants to play he’ll do whatever he has to do to make it happen, and Thompson risks looking like a villain for disrespecting the most beloved player in the history of the franchise.
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July 11th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
I believe greenbay holds the card that says where farve can play. So its no problem. My guess is they send him to the afc for a 3rd rounder.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Go Vikings. If Brett signs with another team I become that teams fan. I am a Packer season ticketholder and I will not attend another game if they let him go. Ted Thompson should be fired immediately. Brett should be welcomed back with open arms. He has earned that. FIRE TT
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
i think it’s odd that no one has mentioned the possibility of welcoming brett back to green bay for a year or two, trading rodgers, and slotting brian brohm as the future starter. he certainly seems to have the chops coming out of college for the job - he was projected as a top-ten pick were he to have come out after his junior year, correct? let him be the new rodgers - sit under favre for a couple of years and then take the reins.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
I’m glad the Pack told Favre to shove it. He retired. He could have stayed. Tough titty.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
I have been going back and forth with what is best for the Packers and I must say I lost a lot of respect for Lord Favre when I read about the whole charter plane story. I have personally met Brett, have is autograph, and my family too has season tickets for the Green Bay PACKERS…NOT the Green Bay FAVRES. While Brett in my mind will always be a Packer I would have a hard time not swallowing him in Queens or Teddy Bears uni…dont know if I could get over that…for awhile…until I change my mind…AGAIN!
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
@ foober — F-A-V-R-E
@ thrill — That’s ridiculous. You expect this team to bend over backwards time and time again in order to grant Favre his daily wishes?
I’m a Packer fan (notice: Packer fan, not Favre fan) and I wish Favre was still the quarterback. I wish he hadn’t made a terrible mistake and retired in the beginning of March. I wish he hadn’t again made a mistake and remained retired in the end of March, when the organization was apparently still willing to accept him back. I wish he was still a Packer.
But the truth is that he isn’t. Brett Favre retired. And the team moved on. What did you expect them to do? Imagine if Ted Thompson were to shell the future of his team (Rodgers is gone if Favre starts) for one last chance with a 38-year old quarterback that has done nothing this off season but draw attention to his inability to commit to a steady future. Packer fans should have his head for that.
It seems that Thompson treated Favre with kid gloves until the last possible second, and the legend still claimed retirement. Thompson is clearly doing what is best for his team and, believe it or not, for his fans. And you people call for him to be fired because of that?
That, friends, is ridiculous.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Three things are wrong with this story.
1. Favre had zero respect for Darrell Bevell - and I went to UW, so I’m no Bevell hater - so that’s not a reason he’d go there. Bevell was his QB coach for some of his worst seasons ever, although most of that blame falls on that idiot Sherman.
2. TT couldn’t care less about ‘public pressure.’ He’s been booed at the last two drafts and is hammered mercilessly by the unhinged lot of so-called ‘Packer’ fans.
3. Favre is not the most beloved player in the history of the GBP. You really need to accept that the team was around prior to 1992. I can name several who are more ‘beloved’ than Favre.
That said, I find it laughable that the nuts out there would lay this at the feet of TT. He was ready to take him back, but Waffle Boy flip-flopped again. That idiot Sherman (and yeah, that’s his name with me forever) damn near ruined Favre’s legacy, and TT and McCarthy restored and saved it. These GB Favre fans looking to mob TT need to get their heads screwed on right. The GB Packers have been around since 1919. I think they’ll ultimately have a longer and deeper legacy than any one player.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
thrill72
If you’re never going to another Packer game, can I buy your tickets from you? I live in Green Bay and can only make a couple of games a year, but y’see, I love the *team* and not just one guy.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
If Favre shows up for camp, they should have him run with the 3rd team offense and then cut him the night before the regular season when his salary becomes guaranteed. He might catch on with the Vikings but without knowing the terminology used, the playbook or the players he would be hard pressed to make a real impact.
I believe if Favre had come out and said he would play somewhere else in March instead of declaring his retirement, he would have been well in his right to do and would have deserved to be released or traded to a team he names. I think by leaving the team and forcing the organization to retool he has forfeited the right to decide his situation.
Unless Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Tony Romo goes down with an injury in the preseason he is not going to go to a team that is a legit contender this year anyway, so the Packers might as well ensure he does as little damage as possible to their own aspirations of success.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
What’s the drop-dead date, whereby if Favre is on the roster, the Pack are on the hook for $12 mil ?
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
thrill72
If you’re not going to be using your season tickets anymore, then sell them to me. I live in Green Bay and love watching the Packers, i.e., the *team,* and not just one guy.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Since avre and his agent are jerking the Packers around all Thompson has to do is bring back Favre then cut him on the day before the season starts. Teams will be cap outand have their rosters set and Favre will have no time to learn the team’s system.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Another Favre thread. What a surprise. This should be good for at least a few more days.
How about some pics of Brady’s GF., Giselle.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
I don’t know how the fans in Green Bay have put up with Favre’s crap for so long. Every rational football fan in the country recognizes that he’s put the team through the ringer with this “will I or won’t I retire” crap for what, four years? It was so bad that the team drafted their QB of the future three years ago. Now, finally retired, Favre decides four months later that he wants to come back, possibly for another team. How can the fans in Green Bay not see that Lord Favre is the one causing this whole mess? I think Florio should start calling him Princess Favre, because that’s how he’s acting. Effing grow a pair, buddy. If you want to play for another team, have the balls to say it. Don’t pull this behind the scenes crap that could end up with another hard working man (Thompson) losing his job. Forget calling Favre a warrior or iron man. Last time I checked, real men don’t pull prima donna crap like this. Real men own up to their intentions and don’t let others take the fall for their actions.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
thrill72 is exactly right
screw TT
favre took the pack to the championship, we were a field go away
from going to the super bowl
favre is a hall of famer he should be able to do what he wants
TT and aaron rodgers can go make love to each other somewhere else
TT should get on his knees and kiss favres a**
without favre TT wouldnt have made it to the championship
let alone the playoffs
BRETT FAVRE IS GOD
BOW DOWN AND WORSHIP HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Everyone is forgetting that right before the draft, Favre wanted to unretire and the Packers were willing to welcome him back. Then he changes his mind, *again*. I’ve been a Packers fan for a very long time and have always been a fan of Favre, but when you back out on a team not once but twice, I don’t think the team owes you anything. Besides, if Joe Montana can be traded, why not Favre? McCarthy and Thompson have worked hard at changing the culture that Mike Sherman put in, a culture of Favre doing whatever he wants. I’m glad they’re putting a stop to it. No one, not even a hall of famer, is above the team. Rodgers may not be the second coming of Favre, but this is his time and he deserves his shot. Thompson has been right a lot when it comes to personnel and it showed last year. I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to handling Favre. I hope Dan Snyder is watching and drooling. I hope Snyder goes nuts and offers the farm for Favre. The Pack will be a better team this year, with or without Favre.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Actually the packers very probably told farve to retire. That they have plans for the future.
ONly problem is farve wants to keep playing. I’m guessing the packers still own his rights so the only way this could come out okay is with a trade.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Hell, no gentlemen’s agreement is necessary. Green Bay could trade Favre for a 7th rounder to any team they want, and Brett can suck on it or actually retire. Better than simply releasing him to go to the Vikings.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
As a Vikings fan, I really don’t want to see him in purple. I can’t get that image out of my head of his (at that time) last interception where he missed the open man. Vikies don’t have the cap room anyway.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
emocow is right
get rid of rodgers
he doesnt even care about the fans
n the fans own the team
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Favre’s purposely jerking Thompson around. So he has to go. Ted Thompson has done nothing but load the Pack with weapons. He even invited Favre to come back and unretire before the Packers changed the entire offense to play to Aaron Rodgers’ strengths.
Frankly the idea of Favre as a Viking does NOT scare me. Their head coach “Frank Burns II” would not be able to handle Favre’s ego. And their offensive weapon is at RB, not WR. Plus they play in a dome. Plus Al Harris and Charles Woodson know Favre better than any CBs in the league, and picked him off routinely in practice.
Aaron Rodgers leading the Pack to victory over a Favre-led Vicequeens squad opening day would silence alot of Thompson’s critics.
But here’s the kicker: Minnesota would have to offer at least TWO 1st round picks. Nobody in the league would get better value for those picks than Ted Thompson.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Favre’s the villain, not Thompson.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
thrill72:
Unless I’m forgetting, TT was executive of the year last year. I’m from Green Bay and love Favre as much as the next Packer fan, but if you try an come back by saying it was because of Favre’s season that Thompson was praised, then you’re mistaken. This is a solid young team that only a few years ago was 4-12. Would you rather have Brett back and get everything he wants (like in the Sherman days) and post 18 TDs and 20 ints? Brett was great for this franchise but he needs to get over his need for affection and praise from people he really doesn’t need it from. Make a decision based on how YOU feel (not how your agent or your mom or brother feel) and stick to it.
I say come up with an agreement with Brett to not sign with Minny or Chicago, and then look for trade partners - perhaps Tampa, Baltimore, or Carolina. If a valid trade agreement can’t be worked out, then amicably part deals under the “gentleman’s agreement” that he won’t go play for Minnesota. I think Favre is man enough to stand up to that.
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July 12th, 2008 at 12:01 am
One more thing: The only reason Favre would want to play for Minnesota is to get back at Ted Thompson. There could be no other reason.
Minnesota is Green Bay’s Junkyard.
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July 12th, 2008 at 12:03 am
“But does blocking him from playing for another team constitute doing “what’s right”?”
Are the games Lord Favre is playing with the Packers, doing “what’s right”?
I’ve said this before, Favre is trying the retire, then unretire trick to get out of his contract, like Seau did. He’s also trying to win public sympathy with this BS. Oh, poor me, I want to play football again, but the meanie Packers won’t let me! Like poster akhhorus said, tough titty!
If he wants to play football again, he’ll play wherever the Packers trade him to. Don’t like that Brett? Then say effing retired.
Unconditional release…what effing balls this guy has.
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