Comments on: DRUCKENMILLER TO CONTROL STEELERS? http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:04:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: nosupeforu http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53318 nosupeforu Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:47:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53318 News flash for the Church of Rooney members...Druckenmiller didn't become a billionaire by allowing other people to run his business. News flash for the Church of Rooney members…Druckenmiller didn’t become a billionaire by allowing other people to run his business.

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]]> By: bavaro89 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53300 bavaro89 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:21:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53300 The Rooney family is certainly NFL royalty, but weren't Art Modell, Jim Isray, and Al Davis considered that also? My point is that pro football is a business pure and simple. That trend was always there since the NFL-AFL merger, but picked up steam in the late 80's- early 90's when accomplished businessmen like Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft showed the rest how much money can be squeezed out of their product. The Rooney family is certainly NFL royalty, but weren’t Art Modell, Jim Isray, and Al Davis considered that also?

My point is that pro football is a business pure and simple. That trend was always there since the NFL-AFL merger, but picked up steam in the late 80’s- early 90’s when accomplished businessmen like Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft showed the rest how much money can be squeezed out of their product.

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]]> By: The Q-man http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53283 The Q-man Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:56:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53283 So the four brothers can't get along or think that someone is giving them the low ball on the money. The team is estimated to be worth $1 billion and the brothers need and want their money NOW! They are not football nuts, they are greedy owners, this is hundreds and hundreds of million dollars being talked about here. So the four brothers can’t get along or think that someone is giving them the low ball on the money. The team is estimated to be worth $1 billion and the brothers need and want their money NOW! They are not football nuts, they are greedy owners, this is hundreds and hundreds of million dollars being talked about here.

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]]> By: Thunderlipps http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53216 Thunderlipps Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:43:51 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53216 I"m not a Pitt. fan, nor do I like them, or most of their fans (for that matter), but I do respect both. If I was a Pitt fan, I would be very nervous about this potential change of ownership. Regardless of a new owners wealth or being a "fan", the long history of the Steelers was built on a foundation of philosophies... all leading back to the Rooney families 70+ years of experience. Make no mistake about it, if/when this happens, there will be changes... lots of changes. I would imagine mostly negative. Some will be immediately obvious, others may take some time to show their affect. I”m not a Pitt. fan, nor do I like them, or most of their fans (for that matter), but I do respect both.
If I was a Pitt fan, I would be very nervous about this potential change of ownership. Regardless of a new owners wealth or being a “fan”, the long history of the Steelers was built on a foundation of philosophies… all leading back to the Rooney families 70+ years of experience. Make no mistake about it, if/when this happens, there will be changes… lots of changes. I would imagine mostly negative. Some will be immediately obvious, others may take some time to show their affect.

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]]> By: ClevelandSucks http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53201 ClevelandSucks Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:33:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53201 if you aint from pittsburgh, its plain and simple you're a jagoff if you aint from pittsburgh, its plain and simple you’re a jagoff

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]]> By: Gailikk http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53159 Gailikk Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:50:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53159 If this was the Lions, and we talked about someone buying out the ford family, would tradition get in the way of the publics collective foot on the ford family kiester as they were kicked out the door? Nostalgia aside, I respect the roony family, but if they can't keep it together then the league will move on. I hated it when Eddie Debartlo lost the 49ers to his sister, but I accepted it and even though I dislike her, she is the owner. If this was the Lions, and we talked about someone buying out the ford family, would tradition get in the way of the publics collective foot on the ford family kiester as they were kicked out the door?
Nostalgia aside, I respect the roony family, but if they can’t keep it together then the league will move on. I hated it when Eddie Debartlo lost the 49ers to his sister, but I accepted it and even though I dislike her, she is the owner.

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]]> By: Frank Burns http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53152 Frank Burns Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:40:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53152 What people don't realize yet is how much of even more of a powerhouse the Steelers are about to become. Druckenmiller makes the other "rich" owners look like beggars with his huge bucks. And he's a Pittsburgh boy through and through, so the team's set for another 75 years in the 'burgh. Unlike say, Dallas, which will be moved as soon as L.A. waves the big bucks in front of Jerry "Chase that Buck" Jones. What people don’t realize yet is how much of even more of a powerhouse the Steelers are about to become. Druckenmiller makes the other “rich” owners look like beggars with his huge bucks. And he’s a Pittsburgh boy through and through, so the team’s set for another 75 years in the ‘burgh. Unlike say, Dallas, which will be moved as soon as L.A. waves the big bucks in front of Jerry “Chase that Buck” Jones.

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]]> By: zygi milf http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53150 zygi milf Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:39:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53150 I completely agree with him (patrickdonovan). I think he (patrickdonovan) makes several good points. Please don't tell him (patrickdonovan) to get a grip on himself (patrickdonovan). I completely agree with him (patrickdonovan). I think he (patrickdonovan) makes several good points. Please don’t tell him (patrickdonovan) to get a grip on himself (patrickdonovan).

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]]> By: finch http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53130 finch Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:21:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53130 i completely agree with patrickdonovan i completely agree with patrickdonovan

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]]> By: jgd3rd http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53126 jgd3rd Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:11:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53126 All Steeler Faithful, The Rooney family is very lucky to be in the position they are which is a place of high regard and extrodinary wealth. Apparenly the family has been living off of the investment from their father / grandfather without having parlayed it into greater wealth by you know getting a job and doing something other than "being a Rooney". It is a shame that the family has chosen, for all these years, to simply live off the fat of the land. Now reality strikes and apparently a controllong interest in the club may be sold. So what? What has the current owner done for the Pittsburgh Steelers....one champiopnship in 25 or more years? I know its a sentimental thing - I'm sure you can have a statue in the present owners likeness built, before he dies even. Odds are good that you'll find a better owner then the present one. And that owner will have actually have done something other than having sat around and been a Rooney for his entire life. If Rooney goes does the shame Rooney Rule go with him? To the Rooney's I say good riddance and thanks for the memories. It time to move forward. Its not like people are pondering the Steelers moving to LA or elsewhere. Patrickdonovan needs to get a grip of himself....jeeez. All Steeler Faithful,
The Rooney family is very lucky to be in the position they are which is a place of high regard and extrodinary wealth. Apparenly the family has been living off of the investment from their father / grandfather without having parlayed it into greater wealth by you know getting a job and doing something other than “being a Rooney”. It is a shame that the family has chosen, for all these years, to simply live off the fat of the land.

Now reality strikes and apparently a controllong interest in the club may be sold. So what? What has the current owner done for the Pittsburgh Steelers….one champiopnship in 25 or more years? I know its a sentimental thing - I’m sure you can have a statue in the present owners likeness built, before he dies even. Odds are good that you’ll find a better owner then the present one. And that owner will have actually have done something other than having sat around and been a Rooney for his entire life.

If Rooney goes does the shame Rooney Rule go with him?
To the Rooney’s I say good riddance and thanks for the memories. It time to move forward.

Its not like people are pondering the Steelers moving to LA or elsewhere.

Patrickdonovan needs to get a grip of himself….jeeez.

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]]> By: bavaro89 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53121 bavaro89 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:03:50 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53121 Not bad for a former first round flop out of Virginia Tech. I kid. I kid. Not bad for a former first round flop out of Virginia Tech.

I kid. I kid.

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]]> By: ctfwest http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53094 ctfwest Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:09:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53094 I am not a steelers fan but it is a sad day if and when this deal happens. The Rooney family is as much NFL as the Mara family is with the Giants. Yes I am a Giants. I live in Philadelphia and when Jeff Laurie bought the Eagles his biggest thing was that it was his life long dream to own an NFL team. He tried to purchase the Patriots years before he bough thte Eagles. But having a life long dream does not equal into football knowledge. That is what the Eagles owner learned the first couple of years before turn the team over to Football people. It is a lesson that Dan Snyder still doesn't know. I am not a steelers fan but it is a sad day if and when this deal happens. The Rooney family is as much NFL as the Mara family is with the Giants. Yes I am a Giants.

I live in Philadelphia and when Jeff Laurie bought the Eagles his biggest thing was that it was his life long dream to own an NFL team. He tried to purchase the Patriots years before he bough thte Eagles. But having a life long dream does not equal into football knowledge. That is what the Eagles owner learned the first couple of years before turn the team over to Football people. It is a lesson that Dan Snyder still doesn’t know.

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]]> By: CoryDangerous http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53059 CoryDangerous Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:12:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53059 If this happens, which seems more and more likely, I hope Druckenmiller will at least run the team similar to the Rooney's. Pittsburgh has a rich history, and I'd hate to see one of these 'hands on' Jerry Jones, Al Davis, Dan Snyder type of owners calling all the shots. If this happens, which seems more and more likely, I hope Druckenmiller will at least run the team similar to the Rooney’s. Pittsburgh has a rich history, and I’d hate to see one of these ‘hands on’ Jerry Jones, Al Davis, Dan Snyder type of owners calling all the shots.

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]]> By: I C light pounder http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53042 I C light pounder Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:45:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53042 I am mad about this. The Chief was one of the founding fathers of the NFL it would be ashame to see the Rooney name not with da stillers. Even though the guy is from da burgh it will still not be the same. The Steelers are the Steelers because of the tradition they established a long time ago. it seems like it will be fine now and a few years, but a long way down the road i can see this biting us in the ass. I can see in 10 years from now the Drunkenmiller will turn the Steelers into smug assholes who like to smell their own farts (just like some other teams The Colts, The Pats just to name a few). It is a sad week for Steeler nation and truely the end of and era is near : ( I am mad about this. The Chief was one of the founding fathers of the NFL it would be ashame to see the Rooney name not with da stillers. Even though the guy is from da burgh it will still not be the same. The Steelers are the Steelers because of the tradition they established a long time ago. it seems like it will be fine now and a few years, but a long way down the road i can see this biting us in the ass. I can see in 10 years from now the Drunkenmiller will turn the Steelers into smug assholes who like to smell their own farts (just like some other teams The Colts, The Pats just to name a few). It is a sad week for Steeler nation and truely the end of and era is near : (

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]]> By: patrickdonovan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53030 patrickdonovan Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:33:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53030 While I am sure Mr.Druckenmiller is a great guy, is charitable, and ridiculously successful, I still believe if he wants to help the Steelers and achieve his boyhood dream of owning them he should buy out 2 of the brothers and figure out a way to "lend" Dan Rooney the ching to buy out the other 2 brothers. The Steelers were started by the Rooneys and always have been run by them as well.. They have a system for success in place and stick with it. That is how they ( the Steelers ) have become the billion dollar cash cow they organization has become. For someone to buy a majority stake leave Dan Rooney in control till he leaves and then tamper with them (the Steelers) after the Rooneys pass away is folly. The Rooneys aren't young and I'm not sure whether they have younger family members who are interested in and working with the team who could pick up the pieces after Dan and Art II move on to the big league in the sky. I am sure however that having investors whose dream of owning franchises come in and meddle and tinker with something that shouldn't meddled with almost always goes bad. Druck if you listening, don't ruin the dreams of many Steelers fans and help Dan Rooney by investing but not taking away the Steelers and make sure this dream isn't about pleasing your ego. To Dan Rooney's brothers and their kids who only care about the race tracks and casinos, you should be ashamed of yourselves for bein' greedy lil unappreciative curs and your father and grandfather deserved better with regards to the way you have treated your brother Dan, his son Art II ,the team, and the city of Pittsburgh and the team's fans worldwide. What a terrible message this continues to put out to our society. When is enough money enough?!?!?! While I am sure Mr.Druckenmiller is a great guy, is charitable, and ridiculously successful, I still believe if he wants to help the Steelers and achieve his boyhood dream of owning them he should buy out 2 of the brothers and figure out a way to “lend” Dan Rooney the ching to buy out the other 2 brothers. The Steelers were started by the Rooneys and always have been run by them as well.. They have a system for success in place and stick with it. That is how they ( the Steelers ) have become the billion dollar cash cow they organization has become. For someone to buy a majority stake leave Dan Rooney in control till he leaves and then tamper with them (the Steelers) after the Rooneys pass away is folly. The Rooneys aren’t young and I’m not sure whether they have younger family members who are interested in and working with the team who could pick up the pieces after Dan and Art II move on to the big league in the sky. I am sure however that having investors whose dream of owning franchises come in and meddle and tinker with something that shouldn’t meddled with almost always goes bad. Druck if you listening, don’t ruin the dreams of many Steelers fans and help Dan Rooney by investing but not taking away the Steelers and make sure this dream isn’t about pleasing your ego. To Dan Rooney’s brothers and their kids who only care about the race tracks and casinos, you should be ashamed of yourselves for bein’ greedy lil unappreciative curs and your father and grandfather deserved better with regards to the way you have treated your brother Dan, his son Art II ,the team, and the city of Pittsburgh and the team’s fans worldwide. What a terrible message this continues to put out to our society. When is enough money enough?!?!?!

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]]> By: samh http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53018 samh Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:21:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53018 I haven't seen it mentioned here, but apparently the three 16% shares are up for sale because those three Rooney brothers also have "gambling interests." That is now forbidden by NFL rules, so they are being forced to divest. I haven’t seen it mentioned here, but apparently the three 16% shares are up for sale because those three Rooney brothers also have “gambling interests.” That is now forbidden by NFL rules, so they are being forced to divest.

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]]> By: monger http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53011 monger Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:01:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53011 This sort of highlights one of the financial dilemmas of owning an NFL franchise. Many times the yearly profit of the teams is quite small compared to the huge investment of buying the team. The real financial payoff comes from the increased value of the team when you sell. The trouble is, you have to sell to get that money. Kind of like buying a house to live in. It's not going to produce any money for you until you sell it. As for Druckenmiller or anyone else owning an NFL team. It takes a billionaire to own a team. For some inexplicable reason, billionaires tend to have something called an ego, and there's no way they're going to pay out that much money and not have an active voice in how the team is run. There's no such thing as a silent majority partner. This sort of highlights one of the financial dilemmas of owning an NFL franchise. Many times the yearly profit of the teams is quite small compared to the huge investment of buying the team. The real financial payoff comes from the increased value of the team when you sell. The trouble is, you have to sell to get that money. Kind of like buying a house to live in. It’s not going to produce any money for you until you sell it.

As for Druckenmiller or anyone else owning an NFL team. It takes a billionaire to own a team. For some inexplicable reason, billionaires tend to have something called an ego, and there’s no way they’re going to pay out that much money and not have an active voice in how the team is run. There’s no such thing as a silent majority partner.

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]]> By: shuxion http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53000 shuxion Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:26:19 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/09/druckenmiller-to-control-steelers/#comment-53000 I thought it was gonna be Jim. An XFL Legend. I thought it was gonna be Jim. An XFL Legend.

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