While they were surveying NFL coaches to find out which players were the dirtiest, ESPN.com also asked them who they thought were the smartest offensive (non-QB) and defensive players in the league.
Hines Ward of the Steelers and Zach Thomas of the Cowboys came out on top of the voting. While Rodney Harrison dominated the voting for dirtiest player, neither Ward nor Thomas dominated their respective voting. Ward won four of the 30 votes cast, narrowly edging Kevin Mawae, Jeff Saturday and Randy Moss who finished in a three-way tie with three votes apiece.
Ward’s always been known as a heady player and centers are in charge of running the line, so no surprises there. It’s a bit surprising to see Moss do so well in the rankings, though. He’s so physically gifted that it’s easy to overlook other facets of his game. Furthermore, you wouldn’t expect coaches to credit the brains of a player who earned the ire of many for his lackadaisical approach while in Minnesota and Oakland.
On the defensive side, Thomas got six votes while another middle linebacker, Ray Lewis, finished with four. John Lynch and Ed Reed each received three votes.
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July 1st, 2008 at 3:27 pm
How did Matt Birk not win in a land slide? It probably should have been Birk or Moss, at least for the recognizable players. Among the players that everyone knows, these two are probably the most intelligent in the NFL. Of course, perhaps they are speaking of pure football intelligence, in which case, Wrad is a good dicision as well.
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July 1st, 2008 at 3:34 pm
I wonder who wins the vote for league’s ugliest player. I’m sure some this would be a ballot O-Lineman will win.
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July 1st, 2008 at 3:37 pm
one more concussion and Thomas will be off that list.
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July 1st, 2008 at 4:07 pm
I’ve read a few articles about how Moss is a really smart player over the years. I think there was one at the beginning of last season that had Belichick talking about how he is one of the few wide receivers who can read a defense like a quarterback.
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July 1st, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Didn’t Kevin Curtis score the highest of active players on the Wonderlic? If you’re talking overall intelligence, he gets the nod to me. He can speak properly, clearly, and SOUNDS intelligent.
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July 1st, 2008 at 4:22 pm
In another poll for dumbest ex-player, Emmit Smith cleans house with every vote cast in his favour.
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July 1st, 2008 at 4:24 pm
I saw Zach Thomas on an ESPN quiz show…lets just say I am assuming that the respondents limited their judgement to football IQ.
Even at that, I’d go with Darren Sharper on the defensive side of the ball (of course, I am biased).
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July 1st, 2008 at 4:25 pm
I’m sorry… before last season, Randy Moss’ career was in a tailspin. He breaks the TD record and all of a sudden he’s one of the brightest on the field players? That name really surprised me on this list. Especially after his stint in Oakland. Talented? Absolutely. Smartest? I don’t see.
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July 1st, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Apparently, ESPN.com is as bored as the rest of us with the offseason. Really, does anyone really care about who the coaches think about this stuff? What next what non-QB is most likely to bang a supermodel, actress, or Playboy Playmate?
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July 1st, 2008 at 4:38 pm
If by “brightest” the NFL meant someone who cheap shots opposing players while in a vulnerable position, then prances around with a big goofy smile and hides behind a persona of someone who “plays hard”, then yes, Hines Ward is very deserving…
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July 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm
O-linemen the ugliest? Have you never seen AJ Hawk?
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July 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
The thing to remember is that Hines Ward plays on the Steelers, so compared to the dim bulbs stoked on steroids on the rest of the team, Ward looks bright.
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July 1st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Well, in the land of retards…
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July 1st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Ugliest player = AJ Hawk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxsu0ufd6YI
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July 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Kotite: The fact that he quit on a team that couldn’t get the ball to him doesn’t necessarily put Moss in the ’stupid’ category, what it does is that it makes him a quitter on bad situations. It’s seldom that Belichick takes time to praise players and when he does he’s very clear about it and it’s hard not to believe him, from the players I remember, he’s praised Troy Brown, Jason Taylor and Randy Moss. He spoke of Randy Moss as a highly intelligent player years before the Patriots acquired him. For example on Randy Moss’ first year with Oakland they opened the season against the Patriots and the week leading up to it all Belichick did was talk about how smart an offensive player Moss is. The praise has also been given my numerous other coaches and GMs.
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July 1st, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Robo769….
Apparently you cared enough about this to read the article and comment on it….
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July 1st, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Well, if they included the QB, it would have to be David Carr. How can you be that bad and still be in the league. Sounds pretty smart to me.
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July 1st, 2008 at 6:13 pm
add Ed Reed to that list, josere.
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July 1st, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Like when Belly-hick said this when he heard that Randy Moss liked to smoke weed and when he tried run down a traffic cop:”What a f*&%ing genius.”
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July 1st, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Ohhh I wouldn’t say that Emmitt’s all that dumb. He’s marketed himself well, stashed his money instead of spending it on Lambo’s, Dom, hookers and crack, and he pretty much maintained a sterling reputation throughout his playing career and into his post-football life. He’s not very well-spoken, but neither is Stephen Hawking.
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:22 pm
I’ve never heard anything remotely close to a bright comment come out of Randy Moss’ mouth.
His encounter with the meter maid shows his true intelligence. He’s an idiot.
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:00 pm
With ~1700 players in the NFL is it surprising that two players, Hines Ward and Kevin Mawae both received votes as the league’s brightest player and the league’s dirtiest player? I guess one coach’s cheating is another coach’s brilliant play.
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:09 pm
If Randy Moss was smart, it wouldn’t have taken him 7 years to learn to keep his big mouth shut sometimes, and to stop smoking dubbies in public, if at all…
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July 2nd, 2008 at 1:29 am
Ya gotta love Hines. In an era of whiny, prima dona, “don’t throw to me over the middle, “I play when I want to play”, “get your popcorn ready” (gag, arrgh, barf, puke: excuse me) wide receivers, a crazy, non-selfpromoting, body sacrificing team player who turns the table and decleats opposing linebackers and defensive backs is a breath of fresh air. When he gets creamed, (which is often, cuz he’ll go over the middle and sacrifices his body for the catch) he just gets up with is usual semi-crazed grin. You won’t see him getting in the face of the defender for a cheap shot or whining to the ref for a unnecessary roughness flag. He’s a real football player and defines what a “Steeler” should be. Cry if you want, I’ll just grin like Hines.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 9:56 am
I can tell you as a Raven’s fan that the ugliest player is definitely Terrel Suggs. The man should just keep that helmet on everywhere he goes!
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