In response to our rant about the possibility that PSLs will squeeze out of the stadium the blue-collar fans who helped make the game what it is, a fan of the Chiefs has pointed out to us some other evidence of a fundamental change in the manner in which folks are now expected to watch live football.
In a “Chiefs Fan Code of Conduct,” folks attending home games are told that Arrowhead Stadium staff will “proactively intervene” to prevent behaviors such as . . . drum roll, please . . . standing.
We’ve been to enough football games to know that it can be a pain in the arse when the guys in front of you decide to stand up, if for example the road team is facing third down and seven in the fourth quarter of a tie game. But that’s football. The easy answer? Stand up, too. And if you don’t like all of the sitting and standing, then don’t go to a football game (or to a Catholic church — rim shot).
The Chiefs also have set up a text-messaging system that allows fans who might be offended by behaviors like standing to report the situation to the powers-that-be. It provides the non-confrontational types who might be offended by sitting a way to tattle while still maintaining plausible deniability.
We don’t mean to pick on the Chiefs here. For all we know, every other team prohibits standing as well. (We welcome PFT Planet to post links in the comments to any other no-standing policies from other venues.)
And maybe, down the road, it’s just another way to raise money. Fans will be able to stand.
If they’ve purchased a Personal Standing License.
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June 28th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
I bet the crowd at the 1936 Munich Oylmpics were less afraid of getting arrested than fans of the NFL are today. This policy SUCKS.PERIOD.
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June 28th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
“What next, cheering too loud?”
Yes.
If an owner has a 70,000 seat stadium (that the people of his city paid for, fans or not), than the prices will be rise until only the 70,000 wealthiest fans are the only ones who can get into the game, and the 70,001st gets left out in the cold. These people are not a blue collar crowd and they HATE to stand at sporting events.
Oh, and its going to get worse.
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June 28th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Not everyone wants to stand all game. If you do, do it in front of you TV. The stadium wasn’t built for your sole convenience. The comments here are a perfect snapshot of what’s wrong with America today…no one gives a shit about anyone else.
And, the true measure of a fan isn’t how long you can stand or how loudly you can cheer. That’s simply the measure of how much of an obnoxiuos meathead you are.
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June 28th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
I agree on the excessive standing thing. It’s a bit narcissistic and forces everyone else to stand. Some older folks can’t stand so much. Standing before a big 3rd or 4th down play or a big series is fine. But doing it for some guy who paints his fat belly in the hopes of getting some time on the jumbotron is ridiculous.
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June 28th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Actually tuckrule, an overwhelming majority of nfl crowds want to stand for parts of the game, 3rd downs, goal line stands, kickoffs, stuff like that.
Its the people who don’t want to stand, and want everyone to abide by their wishes alone, who don’t give a shit about anyone else.
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June 28th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Great, now every stadium will become more like Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte. This is benefiting the wine-and-cheese folks and hurting the real fans.
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June 28th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
If you want to stand up while watching the game, do it in front of your TV. People don’t pay to go to games to look at your back. How loudly you can cheer and how long you can stand is not the measure of how much of a fan you are…it’s the measure of how much of a meathead you are.
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June 28th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Why is this being made into a blue collar vs. white collar thing (or whatever other code words people like to use for economic status)? I’ve seen members of both groups that know how to be a fan and members of both groups that don’t.
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June 28th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
We can complain about passionate fans at football games now???
EXCELLENT!!!
I’m going to go complain to my local symphony that all the audiences silent, unwavering staring is really creeping me out. It’s extremely unnerving and distracts from MY enjoyment of the music so it MUST stop!!! 10 second blink increments must be enforced at all times. This i command!!!
Sure, i could just not looking at the audience just as easily as a football fan could stand up if they can’t see… but i’d rather be able to tell others what to do.
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June 28th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Great now the Jets and Giants will look into selling Personal Standing Licenses.
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June 28th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Lots on here haven’t been to NFL games lately. You are told to:
“Sit down”,
“Shut Up”,
“You’re Yelling Too Much”,
“You can’t do that”, etc.
It’s crazy, and if you complain, you could get arrested and have your future of going to games, taken away from you.
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June 28th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Its not to measure how obnoxious one is. I don’t know if anyones ever heard about this little thing called home field advantage? Maybe because it’s entertainment and you are meant to go have fun, let loose, cheer for your team? I don’t know but sports are supposed to be fun events not suit and tie, read the Sunday paper events in my opinion.
If you wanna sit, relax, in peace and quiet; I think sitting at home on the couch hanging out with the family is better place than a football stadium to go to. Or buy “box seats” so you don’t have to deal with the rest of us hooligans.
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June 28th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Sweet Christ on a stick, how uninformed was the Chiefs fan who sent that bit of “news” in? “No standing” has been a policy for YEARS. They announce it, and many other rules, at the beginning of home games.
The only time it gets enforced is when some drunk is the only person standing and is screaming and hollering like a moron. It doesn’t actually mean fans can’t stand and cheer during the game.
I mean, use some common sense. Have you SEEN games played in Arrowhead Stadium? Does it look like anyone’s been told to sit?
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June 28th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
It’s a Chiefs game for God’s sake, how much standing and cheering could possibly be going on?
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June 28th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
The Ravens have enforced a similar policy when people complain about standing. With the big money being shelled out for PSL’s and the Jared Lorenzen sized price for tickets Joe Sixpack is out and guys named Todd,Kyle, Gavin, Evan,Cole and Biff are in.
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June 28th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Is it any wonder we’re a morbidly obese nation? Standing is some of the best exercise these fat bastards will ever get.
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June 28th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
I think this is a great policy and I for one welcome our new {piss} ant overlords.
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June 28th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
AMEN Patherfan … in reading some of these comments those of you posted talking about us that stand … y’all need to stay the eff at home then!!!!!! … if I’m yelling my azz off and the other 68,000 along with me cause a false start on 3rd & short, we did our effin job IMO … if that makes me an effin “meathead” then I guess I am … and y’know what??? … I’m effin proud of it then … I want to be there making noise with the other 68,000 … I want the enjoyment I get out of being there … that is why I paid my $750 for season tix … and its the best $750 I could ever spend on entertainment … I’ll be dammed if someone is gonna make me sit down and be quiet … AND I DON’T DRINK WHILE IN THE STADIUM EITHER … I don’t and won’t pay that ridiculous price they charge … football games are ermotional and are not meant to be black tie affairs … if you want to sit on your hands then sell your PSL’s to someone who actually wants to be there in the middle of it all and will actually appreciate being there … I almost bought club level PSL’s this offseason, but noticed how those seats are always empty b/c those rich SOB’s are up in there yucking it up with other rich SOB’s not ;paying a damn bit of attention to the effin game … who would I high five when KVB gets in there and sacks the QB?!?!?!?!?! … so I decided to stay in the upper deck where I am now with all the common folk who “appreciate” their PSL’s … peace …
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June 28th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
I’ve had to deal with people standing, people being too loud and drunks but none compare to the IDIOT sitting next to me at Candlestick section 14 Row Z Seat 22. I’d rather have people stand in front of me than that guy can whine and bitch all game about anything and everything. Everybody at that game knew how bad Alex Smith was playing, we don’t need to hear you go on about it like a crackheads John Madden
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June 28th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
The “no standing” rule is also enforced at Gillette. I forget which, but either the Globe or the Herald did a story on how all the code of conduct for ticket holders was so strictly enforced that there was no home field advantage because the crowd doesn’t cheer. (I know, I know; cue the Spygate jokes about home field advantage.) Then there’s the issue of not designing the place with enough women’s bathrooms, thus women had to use men’s bathrooms, thus the Krafts revoked those people’s season tickets for using the wrong restroom. Seriously.
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June 28th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
this does not surprise me. we have been harassed at dolphin games for the past 5 years for standing during the 2 minute warning! i hope that you all can still throw confetti, we can’t!
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June 28th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
I’m a Patriot’s season ticket holder and was once told after a big 3rd down to sit down by one of the guys wearing the yellow jackets. I did out of fear my season tickets would be revoked as the Patriots like to do these days for any little reason. If you don’t like to get loud or to stand for big plays don’t go to the game. Sit at home and watch…
I’ve also been sent what I’ve taken as threatening emails because I’ve BOUGHT, never sold Patriots tickets off Stub Hub because I needed more tickets for one game and you can’t find them anywhere. It feels like teams are looking for reasons to revoke tickets it’s weird.
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June 28th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
The issue is not people who stand during the game…the issue is people who stand when people behind them can’t stand or see the game. If the guy behind you is 80 years old and can’t stand for 3 hours, then sit your ass down and watch the game from the seat. You can cheer just as loud on your ass as you can on your feet.
This isn’t a “class” issue…lots of people who aren’t in the “wine and cheese” group can’t stand for long periods of time, or just don’t feel like standing up when they are watching a football game.
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June 28th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
If you wanna enforce any kind of standing rule let it be like a lot of nhl arena’s… if the play is going on then you just got yourself a seat in the aisle for the next 20 seconds. Wait till the play is over, your friends can get the nachos & beer during the huddle.
Past that, you wanna tell me to sit down you better have an 8 yr old with you or else you can go take a flying **** and sit on the wall by the toilets. When the buffalo D has the opponents O on 3rd & long you better believe sun or snow there will be a few people in every section screaming @everybody to get their lazy @$$e$ outta there seats, stand up & scream n cheer until you get a headache. Ive seen other bills fans popping throat lozenges & advil purely so they can stand up & cheer (or jeer) louder and longer. I bring a few tylenol myself usually b/c i know i’m gonna scream till my head starts pounding, then do it some more, louder than before if possible.
Drunk, sober, high, happy, mad, stoked, pissed off, i dont give a ****, people oughta be up on there feet going nuts @least a few times every quarter unless the game is absolute **** with perfect refereeing.
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June 28th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Let’s think about this now…
Fan is short for fanatic, remember. Sports fanatics have stood, cheered, booed, yawned, wore bags on their heads, used face paints, and used all kinds of other extreme ways to express their senitiments since sports became popular in this country a hundred or so years back.
I know some people feel that football fan behavior is kind of over the top. Those people need to realize that the best seat for them is the one in front of their big screen in the family room a home.
Being an Eagles fan since ‘79, I’ve been to many games at the Vet and several games at the Linc. I’m telling you, YOU HAVE TO STAND UP IN SELF DEFENSE AT AN EAGLES GAME!!!!! (Or be buried in a Sea of Passionate Fans!) But I’m not complaining because the atmosphere is electric and our players and coaches tell us they appreciate it, too.
“No Standing” will never fly in Philly. And I feel sorry for any town where that kind of policy is even thinkable. If the passionate fans get squeezed out of the stadiums in too many NFL cities, it’s a sure sign the game is headed in the wrong direction…
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