Comments on: LYNCH PLEADS GUILTY, BUT SEEMS TO MAINTAIN INNOCENCE http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:27:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: hoyt9708 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-49506 hoyt9708 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:57:37 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-49506 I mean, so he bumped a girl, its a bad thing I know. But think about it... he's the future of the bills franchise right now and we all know and he knows that he can't afford to get suspended or arrested, it would literally do damage to Buffalo as a city. So he did the sensible thing and realized she wasn't dead and drove away. So he was probably high and/or drunk as were the other Bills in the car, and the amount of cocaine in the car probably would not have helped their case, but I mean really, the fact of the matter is, is that the girl is alive and well by now and we should all just forget about it and move on. It's not like he slit his ex-wives' throat... I mean, so he bumped a girl, its a bad thing I know. But think about it… he’s the future of the bills franchise right now and we all know and he knows that he can’t afford to get suspended or arrested, it would literally do damage to Buffalo as a city. So he did the sensible thing and realized she wasn’t dead and drove away. So he was probably high and/or drunk as were the other Bills in the car, and the amount of cocaine in the car probably would not have helped their case, but I mean really, the fact of the matter is, is that the girl is alive and well by now and we should all just forget about it and move on. It’s not like he slit his ex-wives’ throat…

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]]> By: VOR http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-49068 VOR Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:00:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-49068 Lynch didn't see the woman he hit and didn't know he hit her, thus he couldn't be guilty of running after hitting. There were numerous factors that prevented him from seeing her (darkness, rain, friend dancing in the street), much less hearing (rain, stereo blaring, sound insulation of the Porsche Cayenne) her doughy body hitting 2 tons of metal and plastic. The punishment fit the crime, since he admitted to being distracted by the friend who was singing and dancing in the rain (obviously) drunk. Reports are that Lynch didn't even slow down after he hit her, and he parked his car in his driveway instead of hiding it. Case closed, time to move on. Oh and as has been mentioned, it's a joke that Florio, allegedly an attorney, would claim that Lynch should have waived his 5th amendment rights. Hopefully any prospective clients will have the good sense to avoid this hack. Stick to your side job, Florio! Not that he's much better at that, it seems. Lynch didn’t see the woman he hit and didn’t know he hit her, thus he couldn’t be guilty of running after hitting. There were numerous factors that prevented him from seeing her (darkness, rain, friend dancing in the street), much less hearing (rain, stereo blaring, sound insulation of the Porsche Cayenne) her doughy body hitting 2 tons of metal and plastic. The punishment fit the crime, since he admitted to being distracted by the friend who was singing and dancing in the rain (obviously) drunk. Reports are that Lynch didn’t even slow down after he hit her, and he parked his car in his driveway instead of hiding it. Case closed, time to move on.

Oh and as has been mentioned, it’s a joke that Florio, allegedly an attorney, would claim that Lynch should have waived his 5th amendment rights. Hopefully any prospective clients will have the good sense to avoid this hack. Stick to your side job, Florio! Not that he’s much better at that, it seems.

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]]> By: poppa http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48872 poppa Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:34:06 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48872 Several thoughts: 1. I'm amazed by the amount of bad grammar. Simply amazed. 2. I can't wait unitl one of the people who keeps criticizng Marshawn for not talking to the police gets into legal trouble of any sort. Start "cooperating" immediately and see how far that gets you. Rule number 1 when dealing with the police is, "shut up and make them earn it." Most average citizens don't know the law. When was the last time you browsed federal statutes, or your local codes and ordinances? You have no clue what law you may be admitting to violating by talking to the police. That's why any half decent criminal attorney will tell you to say nothing at all. Florio knows this. He's just grandstanding. I still love the site Mike. When Florio Jr. gets his license are you going to tell him that if he ever gets pulled over for speeding and the officer asks him, "Do you know why I pulled you over?" precisely to attempt to get him to admit he's guilty of a crime, are you going to tell him to say, "Yes I do. I was travelling in excess of the speed limit and I am here to cooperate with you fully. If you would kindly hand over a pad and pen I would be happy to document my admission of guilt for you with a signed statement."? I have a feeling that you'll do what every good father, let alone attorney, would do and tell him to keep his mouth shut and play dumb. 3. Non-Buffalonians may not realize this but the city of Buffalo just installed 120 cameras, just like the one that caught Lynch, all over the city in the last two years. It's creepy at best and Orwellian at worst. So far, we have had no significant crimes prevented. In fact, robberies are up in many of the districts where these cameras have been installed. They did manage to almost ruin the Bills season though. Have to love my tax dollars at work. 4. It's would HAVE not would OF. OF is a preposition. That makes no sense. HAVE is a verb. That makes sense. Please pass this along to your children. Several thoughts:

1. I’m amazed by the amount of bad grammar. Simply amazed.

2. I can’t wait unitl one of the people who keeps criticizng Marshawn for not talking to the police gets into legal trouble of any sort. Start “cooperating” immediately and see how far that gets you. Rule number 1 when dealing with the police is, “shut up and make them earn it.” Most average citizens don’t know the law. When was the last time you browsed federal statutes, or your local codes and ordinances? You have no clue what law you may be admitting to violating by talking to the police. That’s why any half decent criminal attorney will tell you to say nothing at all.

Florio knows this. He’s just grandstanding. I still love the site Mike. When Florio Jr. gets his license are you going to tell him that if he ever gets pulled over for speeding and the officer asks him, “Do you know why I pulled you over?” precisely to attempt to get him to admit he’s guilty of a crime, are you going to tell him to say, “Yes I do. I was travelling in excess of the speed limit and I am here to cooperate with you fully. If you would kindly hand over a pad and pen I would be happy to document my admission of guilt for you with a signed statement.”? I have a feeling that you’ll do what every good father, let alone attorney, would do and tell him to keep his mouth shut and play dumb.

3. Non-Buffalonians may not realize this but the city of Buffalo just installed 120 cameras, just like the one that caught Lynch, all over the city in the last two years. It’s creepy at best and Orwellian at worst. So far, we have had no significant crimes prevented. In fact, robberies are up in many of the districts where these cameras have been installed. They did manage to almost ruin the Bills season though. Have to love my tax dollars at work.

4. It’s would HAVE not would OF. OF is a preposition. That makes no sense. HAVE is a verb. That makes sense. Please pass this along to your children.

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]]> By: billsfanaddict http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48750 billsfanaddict Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:43:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48750 pleading the fifth is a trick that is used more by the guilty than the innocent... that said if lynch had talked before his lawyer was "in town" and got all the facts he could, then his lawyer would have been an idiot to keep him as a client. People have lawyers b/c they know what can/should be done in certain situations that the general public might not understand, most people are in panic mode at those time & they say/think/do things that they shouldnt, and then they would get rope-a-doped at the police station into giving up false/incriminating evidence/statements. That said almost everyone can tell when theyve struck anything larger than a rat with their car..... and even with That said, those same people would immediately (impulse action) @least tap their brakes or stop fully so i dont know what the **** to make of this situation b/c certain things just dont add up... unless he was drunk driving, but there are a small handful of "witness'" who saw him either drinking nothing or water but not spirits. So who knows. All i can say is that Goodell is suspicious of many things and he's good at (or quick to) read between the lines in every situation, so Lynch will face a minimal suspense possiblity or nothing at all, this 4-8 games crap sounds like wishful thinking by bills haters to me b/c it wont happen. pleading the fifth is a trick that is used more by the guilty than the innocent… that said if lynch had talked before his lawyer was “in town” and got all the facts he could, then his lawyer would have been an idiot to keep him as a client. People have lawyers b/c they know what can/should be done in certain situations that the general public might not understand, most people are in panic mode at those time & they say/think/do things that they shouldnt, and then they would get rope-a-doped at the police station into giving up false/incriminating evidence/statements.

That said almost everyone can tell when theyve struck anything larger than a rat with their car….. and even with That said, those same people would immediately (impulse action) @least tap their brakes or stop fully so i dont know what the **** to make of this situation b/c certain things just dont add up… unless he was drunk driving, but there are a small handful of “witness’” who saw him either drinking nothing or water but not spirits. So who knows. All i can say is that Goodell is suspicious of many things and he’s good at (or quick to) read between the lines in every situation, so Lynch will face a minimal suspense possiblity or nothing at all, this 4-8 games crap sounds like wishful thinking by bills haters to me b/c it wont happen.

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]]> By: buells http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48746 buells Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:37:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48746 its kind of a shame that the only posts getting high ratings from other users are either racist posts or posts that blurt out "hes guilty!!!!" without even trying to comprehend the situation. its kind of a shame that the only posts getting high ratings from other users are either racist posts or posts that blurt out “hes guilty!!!!” without even trying to comprehend the situation.

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]]> By: Cdiggy http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48741 Cdiggy Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:20:03 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48741 "Ca_Viking says: As was said “Fact 1-he hit another human being with his car. Fact 2-he fled the scene” Running home after knowing he hit someone shows that he was “high” on something and was trying to clean up." Ca_viking, you are an idiot. Don't confuse Fleeing with leaving. Nobody can prove that he knowingly did it so it is a moot point. It was an accident that he was unaware of. Nothing more. and BTW... adults shouldn't play in the street either! “Ca_Viking says:

As was said

“Fact 1-he hit another human being with his car.
Fact 2-he fled the scene”

Running home after knowing he hit someone shows that he was “high” on something and was trying to clean up.”

Ca_viking, you are an idiot. Don’t confuse Fleeing with leaving. Nobody can prove that he knowingly did it so it is a moot point. It was an accident that he was unaware of. Nothing more.
and BTW… adults shouldn’t play in the street either!

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]]> By: Murabma http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48734 Murabma Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:47:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48734 "svnrdr says: June 28th, 2008 at 11:58 am I don’t care what race, creed, or color you are; what religious or sexual preference you have; what your profession is or how much you make doing it, you don’t leave the scene of an accident ESPECIALLY when it involves HITTING A PEDESTRIAN…by the way, that is +/- 500 pounds of man and machine vs. 150-200 pounds of human being. What is it about normal human instincts do many of you NOT understand? If I even THOUGHT I accidently hit, bumped, nudged, grazed, or even whiffed another human being with my car, I am going to IMMEDIATLY stop and offer assistance. Plain and simply, it is the RIGHT thing to do." Sure, if you realize you'd hit someone. Lynch claims he didn't. Considering that it was 3:30 am, raining, the woman he hit was wearing dark clothes while her friend was drunk dancing across the intersection, drawing attention, Lynch's contention that his radio was on and the fact that he may have hit her with his mirror (consistent with the police's description that a piece of the car he hit her with fell off and that she had a small cut--which ain't likely to be anything on the front of a car) and the fact that eyewitnesses other than the victim's friends and video seem to show he didn't brake after crossing the intersection (also consistent with his story) and that he made no effort to either speed away or hide his car, his story can't be immediately dismissed out of hand as so many here are doing. He may have known he hit her, but for the reasons above he may not. In addition, FYI, to date no one has claimed to see him drinking alcohol that night, but at least one witness has told the police he was drinking water. Personally, I wish he'd cooperated with the police sooner, but can understand why a 22 year old in his situation may not--when you're that young and inexperienced it's very easy to rely on your lawyers' advice to stay quiet, even if that's not the right thing to do. “svnrdr says:
June 28th, 2008 at 11:58 am

I don’t care what race, creed, or color you are; what religious or sexual preference you have; what your profession is or how much you make doing it, you don’t leave the scene of an accident ESPECIALLY when it involves HITTING A PEDESTRIAN…by the way, that is +/- 500 pounds of man and machine vs. 150-200 pounds of human being.

What is it about normal human instincts do many of you NOT understand? If I even THOUGHT I accidently hit, bumped, nudged, grazed, or even whiffed another human being with my car, I am going to IMMEDIATLY stop and offer assistance. Plain and simply, it is the RIGHT thing to do.”

Sure, if you realize you’d hit someone. Lynch claims he didn’t.

Considering that it was 3:30 am, raining, the woman he hit was wearing dark clothes while her friend was drunk dancing across the intersection, drawing attention, Lynch’s contention that his radio was on and the fact that he may have hit her with his mirror (consistent with the police’s description that a piece of the car he hit her with fell off and that she had a small cut–which ain’t likely to be anything on the front of a car) and the fact that eyewitnesses other than the victim’s friends and video seem to show he didn’t brake after crossing the intersection (also consistent with his story) and that he made no effort to either speed away or hide his car, his story can’t be immediately dismissed out of hand as so many here are doing. He may have known he hit her, but for the reasons above he may not.

In addition, FYI, to date no one has claimed to see him drinking alcohol that night, but at least one witness has told the police he was drinking water.

Personally, I wish he’d cooperated with the police sooner, but can understand why a 22 year old in his situation may not–when you’re that young and inexperienced it’s very easy to rely on your lawyers’ advice to stay quiet, even if that’s not the right thing to do.

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]]> By: svnrdr http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48710 svnrdr Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:58:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48710 I don't care what race, creed, or color you are; what religious or sexual preference you have; what your profession is or how much you make doing it, you don't leave the scene of an accident ESPECIALLY when it involves HITTING A PEDESTRIAN...by the way, that is +/- 500 pounds of man and machine vs. 150-200 pounds of human being. What is it about normal human instincts do many of you NOT understand? If I even THOUGHT I accidently hit, bumped, nudged, grazed, or even whiffed another human being with my car, I am going to IMMEDIATLY stop and offer assistance. Plain and simply, it is the RIGHT thing to do. I don’t care what race, creed, or color you are; what religious or sexual preference you have; what your profession is or how much you make doing it, you don’t leave the scene of an accident ESPECIALLY when it involves HITTING A PEDESTRIAN…by the way, that is +/- 500 pounds of man and machine vs. 150-200 pounds of human being.

What is it about normal human instincts do many of you NOT understand? If I even THOUGHT I accidently hit, bumped, nudged, grazed, or even whiffed another human being with my car, I am going to IMMEDIATLY stop and offer assistance. Plain and simply, it is the RIGHT thing to do.

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]]> By: Ca_Viking http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48702 Ca_Viking Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:28:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48702 As was said "Fact 1-he hit another human being with his car. Fact 2-he fled the scene" Running home after knowing he hit someone shows that he was "high" on something and was trying to clean up. Bad decision followed by a cover-up. Two crimes. Using the 5th when falsely accused is one thing. Using the 5th when YOU DID THE CRIME is another. That's what mob guys do. Oh, and people guilty or drinking (or smoking) and driving who hit innocent people. As was said

“Fact 1-he hit another human being with his car.
Fact 2-he fled the scene”

Running home after knowing he hit someone shows that he was “high” on something and was trying to clean up.

Bad decision followed by a cover-up. Two crimes.

Using the 5th when falsely accused is one thing. Using the 5th when YOU DID THE CRIME is another. That’s what mob guys do.

Oh, and people guilty or drinking (or smoking) and driving who hit innocent people.

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]]> By: Jolly http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48696 Jolly Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:19:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48696 Unbelievable that a practicing lawyer writes this dribble. Florio must be in the process of giving up his Law practice cause this severely diminishes his stature as a competent counsel. To those stating that the guy knew he hit that woman...Seriously? You mean a guy driving an SUV in pouring rain with a ton of distractions around could not miss swiping someone? You think even if he did hear a thud, as an athlete in Buffalo he's never had anyone pound on his vehicle as a way to get his attention? Maybe he did hear sumtin, maybe he thought it was another autograth seeker or just some drunken females looking for trouble and wisely deciding to keep going. Then here comes accusations of hitting someone....Would you just turn yourself in and start confessing, or would you wait to see what exactly was going on? Unbelievable that a practicing lawyer writes this dribble. Florio must be in the process of giving up his Law practice cause this severely diminishes his stature as a competent counsel.

To those stating that the guy knew he hit that woman…Seriously? You mean a guy driving an SUV in pouring rain with a ton of distractions around could not miss swiping someone?

You think even if he did hear a thud, as an athlete in Buffalo he’s never had anyone pound on his vehicle as a way to get his attention?

Maybe he did hear sumtin, maybe he thought it was another autograth seeker or just some drunken females looking for trouble and wisely deciding to keep going.
Then here comes accusations of hitting someone….Would you just turn yourself in and start confessing, or would you wait to see what exactly was going on?

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]]> By: ProfNozesall http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48691 ProfNozesall Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:53:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48691 MF, intrepid sportsblogger and counselor-at-law, says: "Lynch nevertheless was fined the maximum of $100 and stripped of his license by an Administrative Law Judge .... In our view, Lynch’s statement possibly was aimed at providing him with a possible third-party defendant to the civil lawsuit that he surely will be facing. Still, it doesn’t excuse, in our view, Lynch’s failure to cooperate with police. His image took a major hit as he cowered behind the fifth amendment while police were trying to figure out what was going on." I'm shocked - SHOCKED ! - to read that a multi-millionaire black athlete would DARE consult legal counsel after ANY incident involving potentially significant legal and financial ramifications, based merely on minutae such as his potential loss of liberty via incarceration, the NFL Personal Conduct Policy affecting his ability to continue in a highly paid profession, and the almost inevitable third-party civil lawsuits demanding major moola. Especially for any such incident in a mostly white, blue collar town in upstate NY, way across the country from his California home. And then, horror of horrors, to "cower" behind the US Constitution AND its Bill of Rights! Like he actually HAD RIGHTS or something as a US citizen! I'm SHOCKED, I say! Oh, wait, wait a minute ... there's some other amendments here, the 13th, 14th, & 15th. Only 145 years old or so, but I believe they provide that black people (those in a "previous coniditon of servitude," gotta love that Olde American style!) ALSO have rights as citizens, including what is probably THE most basic right in a free society, that against self-incrimination, in the 5th Amendment. Ya know, I'm not sure, but it think this applies EVEN IF it adversely affects the ability of snarky, bilious bloggers, or, ahh, journalists, to write smug, self-satisfied, snappy jeremiads inveighing against the INJUSTICE of it all. Hmmmmm, whadaya know? Sorry. Never mind. MF, intrepid sportsblogger and counselor-at-law, says:

“Lynch nevertheless was fined the maximum of $100 and stripped of his license by an Administrative Law Judge …. In our view, Lynch’s statement possibly was aimed at providing him with a possible third-party defendant to the civil lawsuit that he surely will be facing. Still, it doesn’t excuse, in our view, Lynch’s failure to cooperate with police. His image took a major hit as he cowered behind the fifth amendment while police were trying to figure out what was going on.”

I’m shocked - SHOCKED ! - to read that a multi-millionaire black athlete would DARE consult legal counsel after ANY incident involving potentially significant legal and financial ramifications, based merely on minutae such as his potential loss of liberty via incarceration, the NFL Personal Conduct Policy affecting his ability to continue in a highly paid profession, and the almost inevitable third-party civil lawsuits demanding major moola.

Especially for any such incident in a mostly white, blue collar town in upstate NY, way across the country from his California home. And then, horror of horrors, to “cower” behind the US Constitution AND its Bill of Rights! Like he actually HAD RIGHTS or something as a US citizen! I’m SHOCKED, I say!

Oh, wait, wait a minute … there’s some other amendments here, the 13th, 14th, & 15th. Only 145 years old or so, but I believe they provide that black people (those in a “previous coniditon of servitude,” gotta love that Olde American style!) ALSO have rights as citizens, including what is probably THE most basic right in a free society, that against self-incrimination, in the 5th Amendment.

Ya know, I’m not sure, but it think this applies EVEN IF it adversely affects the ability of snarky, bilious bloggers, or, ahh, journalists, to write smug, self-satisfied, snappy jeremiads inveighing against the INJUSTICE of it all.

Hmmmmm, whadaya know? Sorry. Never mind.

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]]> By: Murabma http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48675 Murabma Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:12:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48675 Hey, Mike, what is this, your 10th story on Marshawn Lynch's traffic accident? I think I've seen one story on Nick Kaczur's drug issues since that story broke--you know, the one where he wore a wire after getting popped for buying 200 Oxycontin pills a week for $8,000 or so. Golly gee, did he have a $400,000 a year habit (do the math) or was there something more there going on? It's one or the other, by definition, yet we haven't heard a peep on that one. Seems to me that something like that, that's so clearly a felony, would rate as a little more important than something that turned out to not even be a misdemeanor, but merely a traffic citation when all was said and done. Apparently one of the benefits of all the whining Pats' fans did after Spygate is that it seemed to make reporters gun shy about criticizing the Pats at all anymore, even where they deserve it, like the Kaczur case. Ridiculous..... Hey, Mike, what is this, your 10th story on Marshawn Lynch’s traffic accident? I think I’ve seen one story on Nick Kaczur’s drug issues since that story broke–you know, the one where he wore a wire after getting popped for buying 200 Oxycontin pills a week for $8,000 or so. Golly gee, did he have a $400,000 a year habit (do the math) or was there something more there going on? It’s one or the other, by definition, yet we haven’t heard a peep on that one. Seems to me that something like that, that’s so clearly a felony, would rate as a little more important than something that turned out to not even be a misdemeanor, but merely a traffic citation when all was said and done.

Apparently one of the benefits of all the whining Pats’ fans did after Spygate is that it seemed to make reporters gun shy about criticizing the Pats at all anymore, even where they deserve it, like the Kaczur case. Ridiculous…..

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]]> By: MrJJ http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48665 MrJJ Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:08:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48665 Why are people trying to defend him? He hit a woman. This isnt a normal speeding violation. And then it took him weeks to plead guilty? And he's still not accepting responsibility. Goodell needs to sit him down for 4 games. If any of us hit a woman and drove off you think we would get a $100 ticket? Why are people trying to defend him? He hit a woman. This isnt a normal speeding violation. And then it took him weeks to plead guilty? And he’s still not accepting responsibility. Goodell needs to sit him down for 4 games. If any of us hit a woman and drove off you think we would get a $100 ticket?

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]]> By: Popeye http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48660 Popeye Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:43:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48660 maybe all the pot smoke got in the way of his vision maybe all the pot smoke got in the way of his vision

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]]> By: aldavishater http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48619 aldavishater Sat, 28 Jun 2008 05:59:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48619 I'm glad some people have taken issue with the "cower behind the 5th amendment" line. It upset me enough that I was actually compelled to register just to comment. You must be a Republican to belittle the Constitution like that. Even besides that, I hate media types of all races tsk tsking and wagging their finger at young men in their early to mid 20's for the decisions that they make. They just happen to be athletes, so that's why their mistakes are magnified so much more than those made by almost every other male in his early to mid 20's. I'm sure that there are a lot of sports media types who have done less than exemplary things. For some reason, though, I just don't expect to find out about that through the media. I’m glad some people have taken issue with the “cower behind the 5th amendment” line. It upset me enough that I was actually compelled to register just to comment. You must be a Republican to belittle the Constitution like that. Even besides that, I hate media types of all races tsk tsking and wagging their finger at young men in their early to mid 20’s for the decisions that they make. They just happen to be athletes, so that’s why their mistakes are magnified so much more than those made by almost every other male in his early to mid 20’s. I’m sure that there are a lot of sports media types who have done less than exemplary things. For some reason, though, I just don’t expect to find out about that through the media.

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]]> By: svnrdr http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48588 svnrdr Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:32:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48588 People who say "look at the facts" then attempt to minimze idiotic things that people do just crack me up... Okay, I will play the game and look at the facts. Fact 1-he hit another human being with his car. Fact 2-he fled the scene Fact 3-he did not cooperate with the police until obtained a layer FAct 4-he plead the 5th and pit the burden on the state to prove his guilt and when the evidence was piled up against him, his attorney copped a plea. I'm not saying Maeshawn is a dirtbag: I'm simlpy saying he pulled a dirtbag move. People who say “look at the facts” then attempt to minimze idiotic things that people do just crack me up…

Okay, I will play the game and look at the facts.

Fact 1-he hit another human being with his car.
Fact 2-he fled the scene
Fact 3-he did not cooperate with the police until obtained a layer
FAct 4-he plead the 5th and pit the burden on the state to prove his guilt and when the evidence was piled up against him, his attorney copped a plea.

I’m not saying Maeshawn is a dirtbag: I’m simlpy saying he pulled a dirtbag move.

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]]> By: mynameispeaches http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48583 mynameispeaches Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:37:47 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48583 It is disgraceful for any lawyer to state that someone "cowered behind the fifth amendment." What's next, only guilty people hire lawyers? It is disgraceful for any lawyer to state that someone “cowered behind the fifth amendment.” What’s next, only guilty people hire lawyers?

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]]> By: TexansLucky13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48573 TexansLucky13 Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:46:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48573 If you hit someone, you should stop and see if they are alright. I don't care how "small" of an incident that some people are trying to make it into. Driving away from the scene was the wrong choice, and hopefully he will be penalized by Goodell. drmoyer, NFL players are role models for young people everywhere, therefore they (should) receive more scrutiny when it comes to behavior on and off the field. If you hit someone, you should stop and see if they are alright. I don’t care how “small” of an incident that some people are trying to make it into. Driving away from the scene was the wrong choice, and hopefully he will be penalized by Goodell.

drmoyer, NFL players are role models for young people everywhere, therefore they (should) receive more scrutiny when it comes to behavior on and off the field.

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]]> By: Slow Joe http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48566 Slow Joe Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:21:38 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48566 “I am sorry that Ms. Shpeley was struck and injured." D@mn...he hit her so hard he knocked the vowel right off of her name! “I am sorry that Ms. Shpeley was struck and injured.”

D@mn…he hit her so hard he knocked the vowel right off of her name!

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48561 empty13 Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:13:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48561 he left the scene of an accident, and therefore had the time to dry out and clean the vehicle out. "the cops didnt find anything". hells bells i think i know why. he's a dirtbag. he left the scene of an accident, and therefore had the time to dry out and clean the vehicle out.

“the cops didnt find anything”. hells bells i think i know why.

he’s a dirtbag.

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]]> By: zertrat http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48558 zertrat Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:06:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48558 Lynch "cowered behind the fifth amendment"? It makes the fifth sound like a dirty trick. The fifth is as American as apple pie. How is choosing to use the constitution an admission of guilt? Life is complicated, and in any situation where legal questions come into play we shouldn't let authorities and fancy lawyers tell us who is guilty (fill in your own appropriate example from real life here). Being just another sports fan lacking the law degree, i suspect that Lynch may well be guilty, but thank god we live in a country where he is not compelled in any way to confess without evidence. And if he embraces his constitutional rights, that in no way can be construed as cowering. Lynch “cowered behind the fifth amendment”? It makes the fifth sound like a dirty trick. The fifth is as American as apple pie. How is choosing to use the constitution an admission of guilt? Life is complicated, and in any situation where legal questions come into play we shouldn’t let authorities and fancy lawyers tell us who is guilty (fill in your own appropriate example from real life here). Being just another sports fan lacking the law degree, i suspect that Lynch may well be guilty, but thank god we live in a country where he is not compelled in any way to confess without evidence. And if he embraces his constitutional rights, that in no way can be construed as cowering.

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]]> By: Burritto http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48550 Burritto Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:57:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48550 In my world Marshawn's license is suspended and everyone "spinning and dancing" in crosswalks is put to death on the scene. In my world Marshawn’s license is suspended and everyone “spinning and dancing” in crosswalks is put to death on the scene.

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]]> By: dolphins4581 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48548 dolphins4581 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:47:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48548 One question, If you have nothing to hide why not cooperate? Also The personal conduct policy is just that a conduct policy it's not the you were convicted of a crime policy. One question, If you have nothing to hide why not cooperate? Also The personal conduct policy is just that a conduct policy it’s not the you were convicted of a crime policy.

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]]> By: spanky07 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48545 spanky07 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:35:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48545 Just saw a clip on Sportscenter (only reason it was on ESPN was the US Womens Open) and Lynch was apologizing, followed by some face time with the the Commish. He gave the obligatory "we'll see what the facts are" comments...what a putz this guy is...I suspect in the name of "evening things out" he'll now pick out a case where an NFL player that DOES need to be put down will get off...it's a numbers game folks...a twisted game of Gotcha where the teams with the right juice get the nod and the teams with the turds like the Bengals stay in the proverbial doghouse. Just saw a clip on Sportscenter (only reason it was on ESPN was the US Womens Open) and Lynch was apologizing, followed by some face time with the the Commish. He gave the obligatory “we’ll see what the facts are” comments…what a putz this guy is…I suspect in the name of “evening things out” he’ll now pick out a case where an NFL player that DOES need to be put down will get off…it’s a numbers game folks…a twisted game of Gotcha where the teams with the right juice get the nod and the teams with the turds like the Bengals stay in the proverbial doghouse.

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]]> By: Henry Plainview http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48542 Henry Plainview Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:10:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48542 his lawyer wrote that his lawyer wrote that

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]]> By: stanjam http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48532 stanjam Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:55:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48532 Ever hit a bird? Even at low speed? It is hard for me to believe that he did not notice he hit something, unless he was in an altered state. Coming out and talking to the police immediately could have allayed a lot of suspicion. What he did tends to make it look a lot worse, like he was drunk or otherwise intoxicated, did not notice because of that, or did not want to stop because of that, and that his guilt is the reason he did not talk. If that is the case he did the smart thing, going to a $100 fine instead of DUI and attempted vehicular manslaughter. Unfortunately for Lynch ignorance is no excuse for the law. Even though he "did not know" that he broke the law, he still did. His silence compounds the problem, at least from a public image point of view. He could repair that easily, by offering to pay for the woman's medical bills etc. However his lawyer would never let him do that, because it then looks like an admission of guilt. We will probably never know the truth. Reportedly several people were in the car, but no one saw or heard anything? Even if he were alone, it is HIS responsibility to know what is going on in and around his vehicle. Accidents happen, and maybe there was no way he could have stopped what happened. The pedestrian may have been completely at fault. However the fact that he was "unaware" of his surroundings (at least) indicates that he is in the wrong, and he was not in control of his vehicle (by not being aware of what was happening). We will probably never know what exactly what happened. His silence pretty much assures that. Was this a case of driving around late at night, not drinking or partying, and merely being part of an accident? Maybe, but not cooperating, while legal, simply does not make sense in that case. Or was this a case of an inebriated person, who needed the time to clean up, get everyone's story straight, and make sure he was in the clear before he came forward? If that is the case he is a smart man, and clearly got away with one here (unless more evidence comes out, as unlikely as that is). Legally you have to respect his rights not to incriminate himself. However ethically, you have to question why someone would impede an investigation when someone was hurt by your vehicle if you weren't indeed at fault. Ever hit a bird? Even at low speed? It is hard for me to believe that he did not notice he hit something, unless he was in an altered state. Coming out and talking to the police immediately could have allayed a lot of suspicion. What he did tends to make it look a lot worse, like he was drunk or otherwise intoxicated, did not notice because of that, or did not want to stop because of that, and that his guilt is the reason he did not talk. If that is the case he did the smart thing, going to a $100 fine instead of DUI and attempted vehicular manslaughter.

Unfortunately for Lynch ignorance is no excuse for the law. Even though he “did not know” that he broke the law, he still did. His silence compounds the problem, at least from a public image point of view. He could repair that easily, by offering to pay for the woman’s medical bills etc. However his lawyer would never let him do that, because it then looks like an admission of guilt.

We will probably never know the truth. Reportedly several people were in the car, but no one saw or heard anything? Even if he were alone, it is HIS responsibility to know what is going on in and around his vehicle. Accidents happen, and maybe there was no way he could have stopped what happened. The pedestrian may have been completely at fault. However the fact that he was “unaware” of his surroundings (at least) indicates that he is in the wrong, and he was not in control of his vehicle (by not being aware of what was happening).

We will probably never know what exactly what happened. His silence pretty much assures that. Was this a case of driving around late at night, not drinking or partying, and merely being part of an accident? Maybe, but not cooperating, while legal, simply does not make sense in that case. Or was this a case of an inebriated person, who needed the time to clean up, get everyone’s story straight, and make sure he was in the clear before he came forward? If that is the case he is a smart man, and clearly got away with one here (unless more evidence comes out, as unlikely as that is).

Legally you have to respect his rights not to incriminate himself. However ethically, you have to question why someone would impede an investigation when someone was hurt by your vehicle if you weren’t indeed at fault.

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]]> By: robrocker http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48526 robrocker Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:32:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48526 On a related note, it's all the remarkable that Lynch escaped Oakland with a clean record considering this week's lenghthy article in Sports Illustrated about how gifted athletes from Oakland (like Lynch) aren't immune anymore from gang violence. http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1141120/1/index.htm On a related note, it’s all the remarkable that Lynch escaped Oakland with a clean record considering this week’s lenghthy article in Sports Illustrated about how gifted athletes from Oakland (like Lynch) aren’t immune anymore from gang violence.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1141120/1/index.htm

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]]> By: TheBandit27 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48514 TheBandit27 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:06:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48514 What is wrong with some of you people? This is a traffic violation...yes, I know, he hit someone with his car. Before you dismiss him as a horrible human, stop and look at the facts. Then do something that an unfortunately small percentage of people actually do...think. If he knew he hit someone, why would he go directly home and park his vehicle where anyone (i.e. the police) could find it. He is a public figure, he knows this, if he had the slightest idea that he could be in trouble he would have at least hid the car in his garage. And don't try to sell me that he was too drunk or too stupid, because if that was the case he'd have hit the woman that was dancing in front of his car (note: the dancing woman is not a debatable point, it was shown on the surveilance video of the intersection). Stop fishing for reasons to persecute an athlete and take the incident for what it was...a guy who bumped a lady with his car and paid a fine. Nothing anyone can say will change that fact. What is wrong with some of you people? This is a traffic violation…yes, I know, he hit someone with his car. Before you dismiss him as a horrible human, stop and look at the facts. Then do something that an unfortunately small percentage of people actually do…think. If he knew he hit someone, why would he go directly home and park his vehicle where anyone (i.e. the police) could find it. He is a public figure, he knows this, if he had the slightest idea that he could be in trouble he would have at least hid the car in his garage. And don’t try to sell me that he was too drunk or too stupid, because if that was the case he’d have hit the woman that was dancing in front of his car (note: the dancing woman is not a debatable point, it was shown on the surveilance video of the intersection). Stop fishing for reasons to persecute an athlete and take the incident for what it was…a guy who bumped a lady with his car and paid a fine. Nothing anyone can say will change that fact.

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]]> By: Buff Naked http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48509 Buff Naked Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:01:54 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48509 Could this possibly be a scam? How to get rich quickly: 1. Find out that a high profile celebrity is going to be a bar. (Point A) 2. Find out where that celebrity lives. (Point B) 3. Pick a stop sign between Point A and Point B and wait with a friend. 4. Hit your friend with a bat. 5. Distract the celebrity and witnesses with a funny dance while your injured friend jumps behind the celebrity's car. 6. The witnesses see an injured victim after the celebrity leaves the scene and claim that the celebrity hit the victim. Or just pay off the witnesses. 7. Sit back and let the lawyer collect millions in an injury lawsuit. Could this possibly be a scam?

How to get rich quickly:

1. Find out that a high profile celebrity is going to be a bar. (Point A)
2. Find out where that celebrity lives. (Point B)
3. Pick a stop sign between Point A and Point B and wait with a friend.
4. Hit your friend with a bat.
5. Distract the celebrity and witnesses with a funny dance while your injured friend jumps behind the celebrity’s car.
6. The witnesses see an injured victim after the celebrity leaves the scene and claim that the celebrity hit the victim. Or just pay off the witnesses.
7. Sit back and let the lawyer collect millions in an injury lawsuit.

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]]> By: Cdiggy http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48507 Cdiggy Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:59:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48507 Umm Mike.... Is that what YOU tell YOUR clients (COWER behind the 5th)? Your right, you are a Hack and with comments like that your likely to stay a Hack. Why do you think they call it dope, Mike??? Umm Mike…. Is that what YOU tell YOUR clients (COWER behind the 5th)? Your right, you are a Hack and with comments like that your likely to stay a Hack. Why do you think they call it dope, Mike???

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]]> By: Forum cop http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48504 Forum cop Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:57:50 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48504 Hey dis Karl Malone. Karl Malone say dat Mar-Shawwwn didn’t do eit. He say it was just misunder…misss…misunderstanding. Karl Malone have Di-betis. Why they don’t call eit Live-betis? Oh no I got die-betis. If eit was called Live-betis, every body would say….look out world, I got Live-Betis. Mar-shawwwwwn say he deid not do eit….so I think so. This Karl Malone. That's hilarious !!!!!! What the hell wouldn't it be nice to own a Porsche SUV? I hope this lady cleans his wallet and then some. Another homey who thinks their above the law. Hey dis Karl Malone.
Karl Malone say dat Mar-Shawwwn didn’t do eit. He say it was just misunder…misss…misunderstanding. Karl Malone have Di-betis. Why they don’t call eit Live-betis? Oh no I got die-betis. If eit was called Live-betis, every body would say….look out world, I got Live-Betis.
Mar-shawwwwwn say he deid not do eit….so I think so.
This Karl Malone. That’s hilarious !!!!!! What the hell wouldn’t it be nice to own a Porsche SUV? I hope this lady cleans his wallet and then some. Another homey who thinks their above the law.

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]]> By: cygnus x-1 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48496 cygnus x-1 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:48:20 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48496 if he truly did not do anything then he should have no problem going to trial when he is hit with a cival suit. where no doubt his top notch defense team will blame it all on the victim and her dancing friend.rhe bottom line is he did not co-operate with the investigation,following attorney advice or not he could have at least issued a statement expressing his innocence or lack of knowledge i=about the incident. and don't give me he was folloing the advice of council, if you are being falsly accused of something then proclaim your innocence and don't plead guilty. fight it all the way.maybe he isn't lying but by listening to his attorney and getting away with a ticket he sure looks guilty of something. to me all it says he got his money's worth from his attornies.hope it was worth his reputation. if he truly did not do anything then he should have no problem going to trial when he is hit with a cival suit. where no doubt his top notch defense team will blame it all on the victim and her dancing friend.rhe bottom line is he did not co-operate with the investigation,following attorney advice or not he could have at least issued a statement expressing his innocence or lack of knowledge i=about the incident. and don’t give me he was folloing the advice of council, if you are being falsly accused of something then proclaim your innocence and don’t plead guilty. fight it all the way.maybe he isn’t lying but by listening to his attorney and getting away with a ticket he sure looks guilty of something. to me all it says he got his money’s worth from his attornies.hope it was worth his reputation.

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]]> By: FartFaceKilla http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48492 FartFaceKilla Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:39:47 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48492 Hey dis Karl Malone. Karl Malone say dat Mar-Shawwwn didn't do eit. He say it was just misunder...misss...misunderstanding. Karl Malone have Di-betis. Why they don't call eit Live-betis? Oh no I got die-betis. If eit was called Live-betis, every body would say....look out world, I got Live-Betis. Mar-shawwwwwn say he deid not do eit....so I think so. This Karl Malone. Hey dis Karl Malone.
Karl Malone say dat Mar-Shawwwn didn’t do eit. He say it was just misunder…misss…misunderstanding. Karl Malone have Di-betis. Why they don’t call eit Live-betis? Oh no I got die-betis. If eit was called Live-betis, every body would say….look out world, I got Live-Betis.
Mar-shawwwwwn say he deid not do eit….so I think so.
This Karl Malone.

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]]> By: thegregwitul http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48489 thegregwitul Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:35:49 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48489 Jim Kelly 'allegedly' beat his wife (on more than one occassion) and there wasn't a word of it appearing in the mainstream press. The Bills were winning a lot of football games (and appearing in Super Bowls) at the time, so maybe the Buffalo media was caught up in the excitement. I just wonder if Jim would have received the same treatment if his name was Jerome and he had dreadlocks (and one wild player pic on espn.com). Would the media make a snide remark that he read from a statement that he probably didn't write himself? Who knows... Hell, there wasn't that much of a firestorm when Kelly's resturant went under, but I'm getting off the subject. Bottomline: The kid has a clean record and has managed to stay out of trouble. Lynch has also been suportive of the community, which can't be said for Buffalo RB's of the past (McGahee). Marshawn follows the advice given to him by his legal council as well as his employer (The Bills) and doesn't speak on the subject until the time is right. While this is happening, the kid is projected by ignorant individuals as a petty thug, and I bet a part of it has to do with his image (tattoos and dreadlocks) and it's a shame because he's a good kid. Instead of letting the issue resolve itself, we see it develop into a three ring circus. robrocker provided details in his post that paint a different picture. This isn't Leonard Little. He didn't buy himself freedom. If anything he paid a great cost (both his attorney fees and reputation - especially in regards to how people outside of Buffalo view him). The average joe would have been charged the $100 and received a suspended license - both of which were the penalty received. The average joe would not have been thrown under the bus by certain media outlets looking to create a story when the facts were not properly peresented. Is Lynch at fault for not speaking sooner? Maybe, but again, he followed the advice of his legal council and his employer. The smell may linger for the moment, but it will go away once the season begins and Lynch starts scoring TD's. And for those of you that state that it's easy to forgive someone when he is an athlete or famous - save it for Leonard Little. Not a young man who bumped a drunk girl acting like a drunkard with her friends in the street on a dark and rainy night. Put it in perspective and stop the hating! j. Jim Kelly ‘allegedly’ beat his wife (on more than one occassion) and there wasn’t a word of it appearing in the mainstream press. The Bills were winning a lot of football games (and appearing in Super Bowls) at the time, so maybe the Buffalo media was caught up in the excitement. I just wonder if Jim would have received the same treatment if his name was Jerome and he had dreadlocks (and one wild player pic on espn.com). Would the media make a snide remark that he read from a statement that he probably didn’t write himself? Who knows… Hell, there wasn’t that much of a firestorm when Kelly’s resturant went under, but I’m getting off the subject.

Bottomline: The kid has a clean record and has managed to stay out of trouble. Lynch has also been suportive of the community, which can’t be said for Buffalo RB’s of the past (McGahee). Marshawn follows the advice given to him by his legal council as well as his employer (The Bills) and doesn’t speak on the subject until the time is right. While this is happening, the kid is projected by ignorant individuals as a petty thug, and I bet a part of it has to do with his image (tattoos and dreadlocks) and it’s a shame because he’s a good kid. Instead of letting the issue resolve itself, we see it develop into a three ring circus.

robrocker provided details in his post that paint a different picture. This isn’t Leonard Little. He didn’t buy himself freedom. If anything he paid a great cost (both his attorney fees and reputation - especially in regards to how people outside of Buffalo view him). The average joe would have been charged the $100 and received a suspended license - both of which were the penalty received. The average joe would not have been thrown under the bus by certain media outlets looking to create a story when the facts were not properly peresented. Is Lynch at fault for not speaking sooner? Maybe, but again, he followed the advice of his legal council and his employer. The smell may linger for the moment, but it will go away once the season begins and Lynch starts scoring TD’s. And for those of you that state that it’s easy to forgive someone when he is an athlete or famous - save it for Leonard Little. Not a young man who bumped a drunk girl acting like a drunkard with her friends in the street on a dark and rainy night. Put it in perspective and stop the hating!

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]]> By: drmoyer421 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48488 drmoyer421 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:30:54 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48488 Some people seem think that he hit this woman and she flew over his hood while he was going 70. No. The police noted that it was a slow turn and that the car did not yeild. Meaning that the driver was obeying the law but did not see the pedestrian on his left side. If he thought he was going to hit something there would of been a break pressed... but that was not the case. The piece that fell off that was noted was never revealed to the area of where it came off from. This lady did not need ambulance service she only received a bruise and a cut. Which could of been made by a simple swipe from the side passenger side bumper or front fender. Its just funny that because this kid is a football player, and lately there have been bad press lately from certain players, that a character kid involved in an accident gets linked together with the bad seeds. And in the public eye is guilty and never even given a chance at innocence. Some people seem think that he hit this woman and she flew over his hood while he was going 70.

No. The police noted that it was a slow turn and that the car did not yeild. Meaning that the driver was obeying the law but did not see the pedestrian on his left side. If he thought he was going to hit something there would of been a break pressed… but that was not the case.

The piece that fell off that was noted was never revealed to the area of where it came off from. This lady did not need ambulance service she only received a bruise and a cut. Which could of been made by a simple swipe from the side passenger side bumper or front fender.

Its just funny that because this kid is a football player, and lately there have been bad press lately from certain players, that a character kid involved in an accident gets linked together with the bad seeds. And in the public eye is guilty and never even given a chance at innocence.

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]]> By: clintdogg http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48475 clintdogg Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:00:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48475 Hey Ampats, since when does Roger suspend anyone for a traffic violation that resulted in no arrest and no crimial charges or record? He's been nothing but a positive for Buffalo since moving on from the failed Willis McGahee experiment. I'm Pats season ticket holder, Buffalo is a divisional rival, and even I'm not falling into the bias misjudgements. Hey Ampats, since when does Roger suspend anyone for a traffic violation that resulted in no arrest and no crimial charges or record?

He’s been nothing but a positive for Buffalo since moving on from the failed Willis McGahee experiment. I’m Pats season ticket holder, Buffalo is a divisional rival, and even I’m not falling into the bias misjudgements.

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]]> By: svnrdr http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48468 svnrdr Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:50:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48468 "I am sorry Mike, but I feel you are being unexplainably harsh on Lynch" Whaaaaaaa???? Dude, he hit a pedestrian and fled the scene! Did he have to cripple her for a little criticism? Heck what really surprises me is that “reckless disregard of human life or property.” is only worth $100 in Buffalo. “I am sorry Mike, but I feel you are being unexplainably harsh on Lynch”

Whaaaaaaa???? Dude, he hit a pedestrian and fled the scene! Did he have to cripple her for a little criticism?

Heck what really surprises me is that “reckless disregard of human life or property.” is only worth $100 in Buffalo.

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]]> By: robrocker http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48465 robrocker Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:47:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48465 Other things to point out: --The other woman was also singing (which people on the crowded street witnessed). http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/375141.html --Witnesses say his car didn't stop (and a police camera doesn't indicate that he slowed down after hitting the woman). --There was no alcohol or drugs found in the car. --The media hasn't found NOBODY who saw Lynch drinking that night. But they did find one woman who saw him drinking WATER. http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/buffaloerie/story/373679.html As I said in another thread, it's really easy to paing Marshawn as the next Pacman with his threads and grill. But keep in mind: --Lynch has never been arrested in his 22 years of life. --He's never ever been charged with a crime. --And, before today, he's never had to face a judge in his life. Other things to point out:

–The other woman was also singing (which people on the crowded street witnessed).
http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/375141.html

–Witnesses say his car didn’t stop (and a police camera doesn’t indicate that he slowed down after hitting the woman).

–There was no alcohol or drugs found in the car.

–The media hasn’t found NOBODY who saw Lynch drinking that night. But they did find one woman who saw him drinking WATER.
http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/buffaloerie/story/373679.html

As I said in another thread, it’s really easy to paing Marshawn as the next Pacman with his threads and grill.

But keep in mind:

–Lynch has never been arrested in his 22 years of life.

–He’s never ever been charged with a crime.

–And, before today, he’s never had to face a judge in his life.

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]]> By: GoBills 23 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48462 GoBills 23 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:41:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48462 Roger is not gonna sit Marshawn down! Its a 100 ticket give me a break! Roger is not gonna sit Marshawn down! Its a 100 ticket give me a break!

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]]> By: MrJJ http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48459 MrJJ Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:39:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48459 I've never hit a person in my car, but I'm sure you would notice. And look how long it took before he came forward. It wasn't until the D.A. pressured his bosses that he stepped forward. I’ve never hit a person in my car, but I’m sure you would notice. And look how long it took before he came forward. It wasn’t until the D.A. pressured his bosses that he stepped forward.

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]]> By: ampats http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48454 ampats Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:26:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48454 Maybe if Marshawn wasn't buzzed he would have realized he hit something.Maybe not but either way Bills fans start looking for another running back because Roger is going to sit Lynch down. Maybe if Marshawn wasn’t buzzed he would have realized he hit something.Maybe not but either way Bills fans start looking for another running back because Roger is going to sit Lynch down.

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]]> By: drmoyer421 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48448 drmoyer421 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:17:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48448 I am sorry Mike, but I feel you are being unexplainably harsh on Lynch (who has been a great character player for the Buffalo community. And it feels to most readers that you are treating him as the likes of Pacman. If you read news articles out of Buffalo, it would have shown that there were witnesses who noted that the vehicle did not slow or stop when turning the corner. All human beings driving would of if the driver had knowledge of hitting something. Other witnesses noted that the dancing lady was the friend of the victim and she was outwardly distracting to everyone in the vicinity. Not to mention it was down-pouring, dark, and had his music playing loudly. This was an accident, plane and simple. And Lynch did what any person would do. He came home, the police told him of the accident, and he called his lawyer. He has the right, as every human being. Unfortunately, he is a public figure and this is printed in the paper and in the public eye. But there have been lawyers outside the case here interviewed, as well as the DA, which said EVERYTHING Lynch did was NORMAL in this case. I am sorry Mike, but I feel you are being unexplainably harsh on Lynch (who has been a great character player for the Buffalo community. And it feels to most readers that you are treating him as the likes of Pacman.

If you read news articles out of Buffalo, it would have shown that there were witnesses who noted that the vehicle did not slow or stop when turning the corner. All human beings driving would of if the driver had knowledge of hitting something. Other witnesses noted that the dancing lady was the friend of the victim and she was outwardly distracting to everyone in the vicinity.

Not to mention it was down-pouring, dark, and had his music playing loudly.

This was an accident, plane and simple.

And Lynch did what any person would do. He came home, the police told him of the accident, and he called his lawyer. He has the right, as every human being. Unfortunately, he is a public figure and this is printed in the paper and in the public eye. But there have been lawyers outside the case here interviewed, as well as the DA, which said EVERYTHING Lynch did was NORMAL in this case.

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]]> By: Tyler Durden http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48447 Tyler Durden Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:16:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48447 I have to wonder, Mike, would your legal advice to Lynch been to talk immediately to the police without you being there, had he been your client? Or to follow your lawyer's advice and wait for him to show up and talk to police? I have to wonder, Mike, would your legal advice to Lynch been to talk immediately to the police without you being there, had he been your client? Or to follow your lawyer’s advice and wait for him to show up and talk to police?

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]]> By: PrettyFnTubular http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48438 PrettyFnTubular Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:57:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48438 I have a feeling that the real statement Lynch wrote began: You see, wut hat hap'n wuz.... I have a feeling that the real statement Lynch wrote began:

You see, wut hat hap’n wuz….

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]]> By: HAUS http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48435 HAUS Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:52:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/27/lynch-pleads-guilty-but-seems-to-maintain-innocence/#comment-48435 Lynch provides a pretty good spin on on the whole thing, it would almost be believeable if he would have said so from the beginning. Lynch provides a pretty good spin on on the whole thing, it would almost be believeable if he would have said so from the beginning.

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