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In the day preceding the playoff game between the New England Patriots and the Jacksonville Jaguars, considerable attention was directed at the power rankings posted by Vic Ketchman of Jaguars.com.
At the bottom of the page, Ketcham included a designation that the Patriots “[c]heated in one game.”
Ketchman is at it again. Asked whether it’s optional for defenses to use the new system of sending defensive coaching signals via radio signals into the helmet of one of the defensive players, Ketchman had this to say:
“You may elect not to use the transmitter, but that could be dangerous in a game against the Patriots, who no doubt have stolen your hand signals. Of course, they’ll probably steal your transmission signal, so maybe it would be a better idea to use hand signals and have everybody on the sideline making hand gestures, that way the Patriots wouldn’t know who the real signal guy is. You could do that, or you could do what the Giants did: Rush the quarterback and rush the quarterback hard.”
Given the balance of the item in which that quote appears, it’s obvious to us that Ketchman was trying to be funny. Still, we have a feeling that this kind of jab (in jest or otherwise) directed by the employees of one NFL team toward another franchise is frowned upon within the 32-member fraternity that is the NFL.
Moreover, we also have a feeling that Ketchman will be soon getting all sorts of colorful questions from Pats fans for his next “Ask Vic” column.
June 26th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Nikos - so because someone covers a team you don’t care about his opinion is invalid? Why not read through a week or two of Vic’s columns and even ask a question or two. He really allows the column to be what the people want, he just writes his own opinion on the matters at hand.
3efin - I don’t really think Vic cares what other people think. He made an off the cuff remark about the Patriots cheating and you call him out as a nobody looking to make a name for himself. I find that hard to believe seeing as how he is an older guy now so what’s the point.
I am a Jags fan so I am biased; however, Vic’s column is for people who like football, it isn’t just for Jaguars fans.
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June 26th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
both stadiums seat about the same amount of people
boston metropolitan population is 3 times larger.
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June 26th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
The really funny thing is you know the Jags have no hope of ever beting the Pats or they wouldn’t be doing this. It’s all they have. They are the comic relief of the NFL.
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June 26th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
From Pacman: “anything that is purposely done, to gain an advantage on your opponent, is technically cheating.” Might want to throw the word “illegal” in your definition, bro. That’s what cheating is, an illegal advantage. Half of your examples are all permitted in the rules and thus, not cheating. Another genius Pats fan.
And I love all the Jax hating from bitter, blue collar nothings. Bundle up from the cold, boys, we Jags will chilling on our gorgeous white sandy beaches. Maybe that’s why our fans don’t revel in the intense animosity on this board. We prefer the witty, good natured jabs at our opponents from our boy Vic.
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June 26th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
maybe those “rednecks” know something after all. i mean, i dont remember race car drivers having the rap sheets of a lot of nfl players.
if del rio had put pressure on brady, they would have been a lot softer for the chargers…
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June 26th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
I guess the Jags, Jag fans, Jag writers will say anything to try and fill up those empty seats at Alltel Stadium.
Also, may I remind “ASk Vic” that during the Broncos games against the Jags last year the Cutler’s helmet went static as the coaches tried to send plays to him, but all he got was static. But the Jags had no problems Their QB could hear everything crystal clear in his helmet. So what does “ASk Vic” think about this…I’m sure he has the perfect excuse….Bill Belichick was in Denver that day.
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June 27th, 2008 at 7:59 am
Who really cheated?
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June 27th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Tubb of shit, you are going to hide behind the technicality that I didnt use the word illegal. I didnt realize that I had to be THAT specific. I am not writing a rule book, simply making a point.
On that note, I didnt write about anything, that is “allowed by the rule book”. Site for me, the rule, in writing, that states a team is allowed to water down the field. Find me the rule that states, a team is allowed to send ball boys into the locker room, searching for game plans. None of those, are in the rule book. Just because there isnt a rule stating you cant, doesnt mean that you can. Your logic follows that of Patriots fan, trying to defend the Pats. The rule book doesn not say, you cant film an opponent, it says if you film, it has to be in a specific location, there can be no access to the coaches, cant use it during a game, etc., etc.
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June 27th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Tubb of shit, good one. No one’s hiding behind anything. “Illegal” is not a technicality; it’s the operative word in the definition. Trying to gain a competitve advantage is what sports are all about, so long as it is done within the confine of the rules. When you act in such a way as to obatin an “illegal” competitve advantage, we call that cheating. See the difference? It’s the word “illegal.”
Because I don’t have the time to go Citing rules for an illeterate imbicile, I’ll focus on the obvious. You used the example of icing a kicker before a kick, something nearly every coach in the NFL has done. Coaches don’t try to hide this action because it is not illegal and there is no worry of any league reprecussions. Does it give them a competitive advantage? Debatable, but many think it does so they do it. Competitive advantage that is not illegal = not cheating. Follow me? That’s why I made the earlier point about your definition.
You’re an angy lil fella aren’t you? See, the problem with people like you is that you bring down the collective intelligence of an otherwise enjoyable Site (see “Cite” above). You have the analytical capacity of…well… a delinquent. Nice job with the name, very a propos…
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June 27th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Tdubb, you just dont get it, do you? I never said, “icing the kicker”. Clearly someone who is trying to flaunt their mental capacity can read, correct?
I didnt use the example of icing the kicker, I used the example of icing the “K” ball. That is the ball that a kicker uses, to kick field goals. Read it again
Using your logic, as long as it isnt written in the rule book, specifically stating it is illegal, you are saying, that it is legal, and not cheating.
To go back to the scrambling of headsets for example. I dont know that there is a rule that states, scrambling the opponents frequencies, is against the rules. If that isnt stated, you are saying it is legal, and not cheating?????? Does that make any sense?
There isnt a rule saying a “Nancy Kerrigan style attack” against your QB is against the rules, so if my team breaks your teams leg, before the game, you are saying my team shouldnt be punished, because it didnt violate a specific rule
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June 27th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
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Imbecile, not imbicile, and no one knows what league reprecussions are, but since you feel necessary to attack my grammar, you might want to check yours.
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June 27th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
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June 26th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
I guess the Jags, Jag fans, Jag writers will say anything to try and fill up those empty seats at Alltel Stadium.
Also, may I remind “ASk Vic” that during the Broncos games against the Jags last year the Cutler’s helmet went static as the coaches tried to send plays to him, but all he got was static. But the Jags had no problems Their QB could hear everything crystal clear in his helmet. So what does “ASk Vic” think about this…I’m sure he has the perfect excuse….Bill Belichick was in Denver that day.
Are you suggesting that the Bronco’s allowed a Jaguar representative enough access to knock down Cutler’s signal in their own house? Wow, no wonder you guys believe Belichick.
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June 27th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Note 2: It clearly went over your head Tdubb, but my “technicality” point, was actually in agreement of what you were saying. I was saying, that the “technicality” was that I omitted the word “illegal”, but that was the case I was trying to get at. The whole point, of my original response, was meant to imply, gaining an illegal advantage, but my other point, was the fine line between cheating and gaining an advantage. You clearly hate the Pats, and think I’m a Pats fan, which is why I became a target for you, thats fine. But using your example, of gaining an “illegal” advantage as cheating, every offensive lineman in football, “cheats” (gains an illegal advantage, as “cited” by the rule book) on every play. My overall point, was that we can all pick and choose when we want to call someone out for cheating, and when we want to say “everyone is doing it”, and so on. An OL can say everyone is doing it too, but it is still “cheating”, if you want to get that ridiculously specific
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