Comments on: ROY WILLIAMS VOWS TO PROVE CRITICS WRONG http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:28:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43827 Vox Veritas Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:49:54 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43827 "Also having won the NFC East 5 times from 01-06 they probably rested him more than twice." Dude, you obviously have access to the internet. Use it. “Also having won the NFC East 5 times from 01-06 they probably rested him more than twice.”

Dude, you obviously have access to the internet. Use it.

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]]> By: East Bay Ray http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43824 East Bay Ray Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:46:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43824 I trace his declining play, and the end of fans' love affair with him, to the Redskins Monday night game in....(was it 2004 or 2005?) when Santana Moss toasted him twice for late game TDs to cost the Cowboys the game. He has never been the same since, and his "why is everybody always picking on me?" routine has earned him nothing but scorn from media and fans alike. Christ, as in all things sport, has nothing to do with it. I trace his declining play, and the end of fans’ love affair with him, to the Redskins Monday night game in….(was it 2004 or 2005?) when Santana Moss toasted him twice for late game TDs to cost the Cowboys the game. He has never been the same since, and his “why is everybody always picking on me?” routine has earned him nothing but scorn from media and fans alike. Christ, as in all things sport, has nothing to do with it.

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]]> By: starttheseason http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43766 starttheseason Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:02:06 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43766 You are technically correct he played all 16 games only 4 times But saying he finished 4 full seasons out of 12 is intentionally misleading. It is to imply that he was injured the other 8 seasons, which is not true as I say only 2 major injuries in his 12 years. If you can't make a point honestly it's not worth making If as a cowboy fan you enjoy hating on Dawkins, have at it, I ain't mad at ya, but counting against him seasons in which due to his good play the team rested him in the final games is ridiculous. Also having won the NFC East 5 times from 01-06 they probably rested him more than twice. You are technically correct he played all 16 games only 4 times

But saying he finished 4 full seasons out of 12 is intentionally misleading. It is to imply that he was injured the other 8 seasons, which is not true as I say only 2 major injuries in his 12 years. If you can’t make a point honestly it’s not worth making

If as a cowboy fan you enjoy hating on Dawkins, have at it, I ain’t mad at ya, but counting against him seasons in which due to his good play the team rested him in the final games is ridiculous. Also having won the NFC East 5 times from 01-06 they probably rested him more than twice.

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43733 Vox Veritas Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:40:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43733 "Vox: “Dawk’s played 4 full seasons out of 12″ This didn’t sound right so I checked it out…" You could have just said "and found out that you're right". "Also a bunch of 8 years he played 14 or 15 games was due to the eagles resting players at the end of a regular season with a post season spot wrapped up." What, twice? So 6 seasons out of 12. Feel better? “Vox:

“Dawk’s played 4 full seasons out of 12″

This didn’t sound right so I checked it out…”

You could have just said “and found out that you’re right”.

“Also a bunch of 8 years he played 14 or 15 games was due to the eagles resting players at the end of a regular season with a post season spot wrapped up.”

What, twice? So 6 seasons out of 12. Feel better?

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]]> By: dlmcc0202 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43665 dlmcc0202 Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:51:38 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43665 Roy Williams should realize people are criticizing him because his skills have diminished. He is a disaster on coverage. He used to tackle people so hard that you could almost feel it at home on your couch. Now he kind of just moves slowly around likes hes walking on the moon. No one cares that he found Christ. We watch to see him make plays and the Cowboys pay him a nice chunk of change to play some defense Roy Williams should realize people are criticizing him because his skills have diminished. He is a disaster on coverage. He used to tackle people so hard that you could almost feel it at home on your couch. Now he kind of just moves slowly around likes hes walking on the moon.

No one cares that he found Christ. We watch to see him make plays and the Cowboys pay him a nice chunk of change to play some defense

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]]> By: hatch http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43656 hatch Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:38:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43656 This article just goes to show that not even divine intervention will make Roy Williams decent in coverage. This article just goes to show that not even divine intervention will make Roy Williams decent in coverage.

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]]> By: starttheseason http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43650 starttheseason Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:28:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43650 Vox: "Dawk’s played 4 full seasons out of 12" This didn't sound right so I checked it out... Dawkins only missed significant time (more than three games) twice in his career in 03 he played 7 games in 07 he played only 10. Also a bunch of 8 years he played 14 or 15 games was due to the eagles resting players at the end of a regular season with a post season spot wrapped up. So to use that to imply that he's injury prone is kinda stupid. I know you say you say you don't need to be objective but it helps people take the things you say seriously if you're not as blatantly slanted. The truth of the matter is that Roy Williams is OK he's not real good in coverage but he's a big hitter and an ok starting safety. He used to be a very good one now he's average. Trying to pick out certain stats in order to compare him to Dawkins is silly. First of all because they do different things on the field and secondly because Dawkins was a much better player than RW in their respective primes and even an extreme homer cowboy fan should be able to admit that. Vox:

“Dawk’s played 4 full seasons out of 12″

This didn’t sound right so I checked it out… Dawkins only missed significant time (more than three games) twice in his career in 03 he played 7 games in 07 he played only 10.

Also a bunch of 8 years he played 14 or 15 games was due to the eagles resting players at the end of a regular season with a post season spot wrapped up. So to use that to imply that he’s injury prone is kinda stupid.

I know you say you say you don’t need to be objective but it helps people take the things you say seriously if you’re not as blatantly slanted.

The truth of the matter is that Roy Williams is OK he’s not real good in coverage but he’s a big hitter and an ok starting safety. He used to be a very good one now he’s average. Trying to pick out certain stats in order to compare him to Dawkins is silly. First of all because they do different things on the field and secondly because Dawkins was a much better player than RW in their respective primes and even an extreme homer cowboy fan should be able to admit that.

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]]> By: T Romo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43643 T Romo Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:14:38 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43643 I expect Roy will be removed in the nickel defense this year as he was at times last year. We're already preparing Anthony Henry to take over. Every OC in the league knows that he is our weakest link in coverage. I expect Roy will be removed in the nickel defense this year as he was at times last year. We’re already preparing Anthony Henry to take over. Every OC in the league knows that he is our weakest link in coverage.

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]]> By: Grulks http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43621 Grulks Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:37:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43621 “Ever since I re-dedicated my life to Christ is when I started catching all this hell.” he's lucky he caught that , cause he can't catch sh*t on the football field. “Ever since I re-dedicated my life to Christ is when I started catching all this hell.”

he’s lucky he caught that , cause he can’t catch sh*t on the football field.

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]]> By: Miggity http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43616 Miggity Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:35:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43616 I forgot how many shut down safties there are in this league. Ok, so maybe Chris Cooley has his number, seems to me Cooley is pretty damn good. And I can't stress how much I hate the redskins. Williams had a down year last year, it happens to all of them. I don't see anyone up in arms when Urlacher gets run over or when Champ Bailey gets beat deep(both of which happen). This comes with the territory of being high profile and a Dallas Cowboy. Derek Jeter's errors make SportsCenter....This is how it is when you play for certain franchises in sports. I forgot how many shut down safties there are in this league.
Ok, so maybe Chris Cooley has his number, seems to me Cooley is pretty damn good. And I can’t stress how much I hate the redskins.
Williams had a down year last year, it happens to all of them. I don’t see anyone up in arms when Urlacher gets run over or when Champ Bailey gets beat deep(both of which happen). This comes with the territory of being high profile and a Dallas Cowboy. Derek Jeter’s errors make SportsCenter….This is how it is when you play for certain franchises in sports.

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43609 Vox Veritas Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:25:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43609 "taudaddy79 says: June 17th, 2008 at 10:41 am Roy (on his knees praying): Dear Christ, now that I’ve found you and you’re in my life I have to ask you for a favor. I really want to be in the Probowl this year. Can you help me out? Christ: Ok…but in return I’ll make you fat, slow, over-rated, AND rig it so you get to sit out on third downs? Roy: Deal! " You realize that he made the Pro Bowl because Sean Taylor was murdered, right? “taudaddy79 says:
June 17th, 2008 at 10:41 am

Roy (on his knees praying): Dear Christ, now that I’ve found you and you’re in my life I have to ask you for a favor. I really want to be in the Probowl this year. Can you help me out?

Christ: Ok…but in return I’ll make you fat, slow, over-rated, AND rig it so you get to sit out on third downs?

Roy: Deal! ”

You realize that he made the Pro Bowl because Sean Taylor was murdered, right?

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]]> By: yankeemofo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43605 yankeemofo Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:22:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43605 Gee, if his cover skills are so great, why is he always dragging WRs down FROM BEHIND?!? Gee, if his cover skills are so great, why is he always dragging WRs down FROM BEHIND?!?

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43599 Vox Veritas Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:10:06 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43599 "I didn’t realize that “re-dedicated my life to Christ ” meant being fat and slow and having no cover skills. Shut up." Stop being a media lemming. You don't get 19 INTs, including 3 for TDs in six years without having any cover skills. Dawkins had 18 INTs in his first six seasons and hasn't taken 3 to the house in his entire 12 year career but nobody ever questions his coverage skills despite the fact that he's a free safety and should have better numbers. Dawkins was burnt toast last year, by the way. When he was healthy anyway. Dawk's played 4 full seasons out of 12, Williams has never missed a game because of injury, and he plays special teams as well as D. “I didn’t realize that “re-dedicated my life to Christ ” meant being fat and slow and having no cover skills. Shut up.”

Stop being a media lemming. You don’t get 19 INTs, including 3 for TDs in six years without having any cover skills. Dawkins had 18 INTs in his first six seasons and hasn’t taken 3 to the house in his entire 12 year career but nobody ever questions his coverage skills despite the fact that he’s a free safety and should have better numbers. Dawkins was burnt toast last year, by the way. When he was healthy anyway. Dawk’s played 4 full seasons out of 12, Williams has never missed a game because of injury, and he plays special teams as well as D.

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]]> By: CoryDangerous http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43584 CoryDangerous Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:46:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43584 Roy has always had a problem covering. It doesn't mean he's not good. They just have to use him the way he ought to be used. Polamalu wouldn't fit on every team in the league, and neither would Bob Sanders. That's not saying they're system guys. They're both really good safety's, just really good in different ways. Roy has always had a problem covering. It doesn’t mean he’s not good. They just have to use him the way he ought to be used. Polamalu wouldn’t fit on every team in the league, and neither would Bob Sanders. That’s not saying they’re system guys. They’re both really good safety’s, just really good in different ways.

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43582 Vox Veritas Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:44:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43582 "Why is it athletes that are displaying subpar performances and criminals that are sentenced to long prison terms rediscover Christ of all a sudden?" Good question, but it doesn't pertain to Roy Williams. In his case, he found Jesus THEN his play started falling off. mikemboston, I do think that there's a connection. Main reason he "catches hell" is because he doesn't talk to the media too much anymore. I can't really blame him for that, the media in sensationalistic and sucks major ass, especially the local D/FW hacks, who are lazy and prefer the sports news to write itself. Few years ago he wrote an "anonymous" letter in which he criticized the media for their methods and posted it in the locker room and I think they hold that against him too. No matter what you think of how he plays, he's a good guy that never gets in trouble off the field and he does a lot of charity work that nobody ever hears about because the media rarely reports it. Right around Mother's Day, when Warrick Dunn was deservedly getting props for helping some single moms get housing, in the spirit of Mother's Day I made a post here about Roy Williams doing a lot of good work to help single moms but guess what? It never made it past Florio for whatever reason. This post may not make it to the site either, but it is worth mentioning, so just in case: http://www.roywilliamssafetynet.org/ “Why is it athletes that are displaying subpar performances and criminals that are sentenced to long prison terms rediscover Christ of all a sudden?”

Good question, but it doesn’t pertain to Roy Williams. In his case, he found Jesus THEN his play started falling off. mikemboston, I do think that there’s a connection.

Main reason he “catches hell” is because he doesn’t talk to the media too much anymore. I can’t really blame him for that, the media in sensationalistic and sucks major ass, especially the local D/FW hacks, who are lazy and prefer the sports news to write itself. Few years ago he wrote an “anonymous” letter in which he criticized the media for their methods and posted it in the locker room and I think they hold that against him too. No matter what you think of how he plays, he’s a good guy that never gets in trouble off the field and he does a lot of charity work that nobody ever hears about because the media rarely reports it. Right around Mother’s Day, when Warrick Dunn was deservedly getting props for helping some single moms get housing, in the spirit of Mother’s Day I made a post here about Roy Williams doing a lot of good work to help single moms but guess what? It never made it past Florio for whatever reason. This post may not make it to the site either, but it is worth mentioning, so just in case:

http://www.roywilliamssafetynet.org/

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]]> By: taudaddy79 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43580 taudaddy79 Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:41:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43580 Roy (on his knees praying): Dear Christ, now that I've found you and you're in my life I have to ask you for a favor. I really want to be in the Probowl this year. Can you help me out? Christ: Ok...but in return I'll make you fat, slow, over-rated, AND rig it so you get to sit out on third downs? Roy: Deal! Roy (on his knees praying): Dear Christ, now that I’ve found you and you’re in my life I have to ask you for a favor. I really want to be in the Probowl this year. Can you help me out?

Christ: Ok…but in return I’ll make you fat, slow, over-rated, AND rig it so you get to sit out on third downs?

Roy: Deal!

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]]> By: cantgetenough http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43563 cantgetenough Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:10:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43563 greensmackginny says: "Why is it athletes that are displaying subpar performances and criminals that are sentenced to long prison terms rediscover Christ of all a sudden?" Because somtimes it takes a smack in the face to realize that you're not all that. greensmackginny says:

“Why is it athletes that are displaying subpar performances and criminals that are sentenced to long prison terms rediscover Christ of all a sudden?”

Because somtimes it takes a smack in the face to realize that you’re not all that.

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]]> By: mikemboston http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43545 mikemboston Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:37:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43545 Does anyone know how long ago he "found god"? Was it also the same time that he stopped knocking people the fu*k out on the field? Are those two things related, hmmmm makes you wonder... Does anyone know how long ago he “found god”? Was it also the same time that he stopped knocking people the fu*k out on the field? Are those two things related, hmmmm makes you wonder…

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]]> By: lionsfan54 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43531 lionsfan54 Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:13:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43531 I didn't realize that "re-dedicated my life to Christ " meant being fat and slow and having no cover skills. Shut up. I didn’t realize that “re-dedicated my life to Christ ” meant being fat and slow and having no cover skills. Shut up.

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]]> By: mrmagoo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43520 mrmagoo Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:46:55 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43520 Poor ol' Job there. He knows if he looks back to see the receiver that got behind him again he'll turn into a pillar of salt. Poor ol’ Job there. He knows if he looks back to see the receiver that got behind him again he’ll turn into a pillar of salt.

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]]> By: spoonman http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43513 spoonman Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:36:40 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43513 No, Roy. It's when you started not making plays on the deep ball and failed to make big hits like you used to when you started catching h*ll. No, Roy. It’s when you started not making plays on the deep ball and failed to make big hits like you used to when you started catching h*ll.

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]]> By: greensmackginny http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43511 greensmackginny Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:31:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43511 Why is it athletes that are displaying subpar performances and criminals that are sentenced to long prison terms rediscover Christ of all a sudden? Why is it athletes that are displaying subpar performances and criminals that are sentenced to long prison terms rediscover Christ of all a sudden?

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]]> By: jfiling http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43508 jfiling Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:27:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/17/roy-williams-vows-to-prove-critics-wrong/#comment-43508 That's right, Roy. It's about time an athlete blamed Jesus for something instead of crediting Him. That’s right, Roy. It’s about time an athlete blamed Jesus for something instead of crediting Him.

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