It’s already been six days and six weeks since someone fired six bullets from a six-shooter owned by a football player whose jersey does not contain the number six anywhere on it.
And the matter still is under investigation.
Sal Paolantonio of ESPN reports that the Philadelphia District Attorney’s office has asked the police department to gather more evidence regarding an incident involving Marvin Harrison’s gun.
One of the problems is that the two victims — a man who was shot in the hand and a child injured by flying glass — have been “less than fully cooperative.”
The D.A. apparently won’t proceed until the D.A. knows that a conviction can be obtained. “We don’t approve charges unless we can prove them in court,” said an official with the district attorney’s office.
Still, Harrison owned the gun, the gun was used in the shooting, and the gun ended up back in Harrison’s possession the next day. Absent a damn good explanation from Harrison as to who other than Harrison had the gun in his or her hand at the time of the shooting, we think there’s enough evidence to proceed.
We realize that prosecutors don’t want to put their won-loss records at risk by plucking anything other than the fruit that’s skimming the blades of grass, but sometimes the lack of a smoking gun (um, wait, never mind) needs to take a back seat to the application of common sense to circumstantial evidence, even if it means that Perry Mason might not be able to boast to his potential female conquests that he’s never lost a case in court.
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June 16th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
brownsbacker
#1The silence of Harrison is what has tarnished his image and career.
#2Chasing a criminal out of your bar and down the street with a gun before you shoot him and then saying you feared for your life does not cut it in a self defense case. The victim left the scene and the shooter9cough, harrison, cough) Chased him. The Victim probably had more claim to that self defense plea than Harrison does.
#3When one side of the story is told, then we can not make up the other side. SO all we can go on is one side. When Harrison speaks on the subject, it will be the first time.
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June 16th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
bubba
#1: You are correct, but I think that is wrong. Harrison would be an idiot to talk about the case. Nothing he says can help him, except in the court of public opinion. Just about anything he says can be used against him, and that applies regardless of innocence, guilt, or any degree of wrong-doing or otherwise on his part. That’s just the way our justice system is set up.
#2: I was under the impression that was the original story that came out, then further statements by the Philly police indicated that it wasn’t certain whether or not he was the shooter. I could be wrong about this. I agree that chasing someone down absolutely *does not* cut it in a self-defense case, minus perhaps a very narrow set of circumstances but I’m not going to speculate on that.
#3: This is closely related to #1, but as I already said, it’s just not in his best interest to speak on the subject at all. Cooperating with police with a lawyer present is a lot different than releasing statements to the media. Prosecutors can nit-pick any statement made to anybody and use the bad parts against him and ignore the good parts. That’s why, when confronted with something as serious as this, your best bet is just to keep your mouth shut even if you are innocent. It’s unfortunate that many people don’t understand this, and that Florio routinely implies the opposite despite practicing law.
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June 16th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Boz Senator Comcast is touching his toe at the Comcast HQ..John Tomase has just reported that the gun belonged to Bill Belichick, not Marvin Harrison.
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June 16th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
One of the problems is that the two victims — a man who was shot in the hand and a child injured by flying glass — have been “less than fully cooperative.” - I wonder if someone paid the victims a visit with a briefcase full of money and did some sharing. That’s a good way to get a victim to shut up when all signs point to you as the suspect.
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June 16th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
It’s Philadelphia. You seriously expected justice? Cops get their fine quotas at Eagles games.
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June 16th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Where was OJ?
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June 16th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
If you people would take the time and read the police report from Philly PD you would see that they said all along that he was NEVER a suspect in the actual shooting.
Most people on here are like most the news agencies now days,going by hearsay and if that’s not good enough add something to the story.
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June 16th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
I’m no lawyer, but he’s responsible for what happens with his gun whether he’s wielding it or not. I’ll bet if there was a body, there would’ve been charges filed against Marvin within days of the incident.
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June 16th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Since when was Perry Mason ever concerned w/impressing “the ladies”????? Well, I guess w/Florio being a Steeler fan living in West Virginia, he knows all about impressing “the (sheep, guys in drag, bearded Pgh women, etc.) ladies”……
Florio - was Perry Mason the reason you became a lawyer? Tell me more about how much of a role model he REALLY was for you.
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June 16th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
I think he should just come out and say,:”A lot of things have been said about me and I would like to say I am not involved in anyway. I am sorry but that is all I can say.”
That way he is not puffing out his chest or just claiming innocence. Denying involvement with sincerity would have everyone on his side. Now, it may come out differently, but it may never come to charges anyway. So, there is a chance it will never go to trial but without a statement, damage is being done. I know he is a quiet person, that is why a short simple statement with sincerity and remorse for the situation, not his involvement, is waht will endthis.
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June 16th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Uh, charge who, Floria? And with what?
There is no evidence that Harrison fired the gun. There is no evidence WHO fired the gun. It’s entirely possible the gun was fired in self defense, but since there is no evidence as to who shot first (or who shot at all for that matter), how can they charge anyone with anything? The guy who was shot is a felon who did time for offing a guy. Isn’t it just a tad possible that he fired first? For Harrison to be charged with something, the DA would have to prove the following things:
1. That a specific person fired Harrison’s gun
2. That the firing of the gun was criminal
3. That Harrison had acted neglegently in allowing his gun to be obtained and used by the person who shot it.
As far as I can tell, the police have no shooter. The police have no idea if the shooting was justified, and without 1 and 2, there is no way to know if Harrison had taken reasonable precautions in the storage of his gun.
Am I missing something here? This is a nothing case. There is no way to know what happened and Harrison would be out of his mind to say anything about it at all. From the begining you’ve taken the position that Harrison committed a crime by shooting this guy when there is no evidence that he shot, and a pretty good chance there was self defense involved. Your attitude is curious to say the least.
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June 17th, 2008 at 12:56 am
Are you, by way of your Perry Mason comment, trying to say that the Philly District Attorney is a man? Everyone knows that Lynne Abraham is the D.A. here and that she’s a…wait, um…nevermind…
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June 17th, 2008 at 1:05 am
“If you people would take the time and read the police report from Philly PD you would see that they said all along that he was NEVER a suspect in the actual shooting.”
Q: Why would cops say “Marvin Harrison is not a suspect” in a police report?
A: They wouldn’t. Maybe in a press release or interview, but not in a police report.
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June 17th, 2008 at 1:11 am
Of course he shot that guy. There’s no way to prove it unless somebody steps up but they won’t. He’s no less a turd for all of the cover-up.
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June 17th, 2008 at 1:23 am
In North Philadelphia born and raised
On the playground’s where Marvin spent most of his days
Chillin’ out maxin’ relaxin’ all cool
Shootin’ some b-ball outside of the school
When a couple of guys
Who were up to no good
Started making trouble in the neighborhood
Got in one little gun fight but Goodell didn’t care
Said ‘For givin’ us bad pub, you’re suspended for a year’
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June 17th, 2008 at 5:25 am
No one talks, no way to prove the case, no one goes to trial so Mavin walks. Maybe the city gets him on the “gun was registered to him charge” but they need the witness to say he was shot by that gun to sniff a charge and that doesn’t seem likely. Even if it’s a clear fact that someone was shot, if that person doesn’t show up in court to say they were shot, then it never happened.
People who live in Philadelphia (not individuals who talk that “thank god I got out of that city alive” sally blabber mouth talk) and other cities with fairly high gun violence crime rates understand how these things work. We all don’t agree with them, but we understand.
The one question I can’t quite understand is: Why does Marvin Harrison own a car wash at 26th and Jefferson?
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June 17th, 2008 at 7:44 am
DirtyWaters says:
“The one question I can’t quite understand is: Why does Marvin Harrison own a car wash at 26th and Jefferson?”
For the money, bro. There are many, many Benjamins to be had in the City, for those wise to its ways.
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June 17th, 2008 at 8:02 am
I still think that they hid the gun behind Phony Dungy’s ears. C’mon now, it’s his gun and it’s used in a shooting then magically appears at his car wash the very next day? 1. reading Florio everyday:free, washing the car:12 dollars, filling the car with gas:75 dollars, watching Dolt’s fans make excuses for this clown:PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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June 17th, 2008 at 8:23 am
Hey the next time that there’s a fire in California you can have Phony Dungy fly out to your county and flap his big, giant elephant ears and put the fire out, just like he did to make the gun charge magically fall out of the news cycle since it happened. But be careful, you never know what’s hiding behind those giant elephant ears that’s the lineage of Gumby and Dumbo the elephant.
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June 17th, 2008 at 8:53 am
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June 17th, 2008 at 8:02 am
I still think that they hid the gun behind Phony Dungy’s ears. C’mon now, it’s his gun and it’s used in a shooting then magically appears at his car wash the very next day? 1. reading Florio everyday:free, washing the car:12 dollars, filling the car with gas:75 dollars, watching Dolt’s fans make excuses for this clown:PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I haven’t seen anywhere on here anybody making excuses for him and as for if Marvin wanted to hide the gun your mouth would be the biddest place to hide it.
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June 17th, 2008 at 8:57 am
Vox Veritas says:
June 17th, 2008 at 1:05 am
“If you people would take the time and read the police report from Philly PD you would see that they said all along that he was NEVER a suspect in the actual shooting.”
Q: Why would cops say “Marvin Harrison is not a suspect” in a police report?
A: They wouldn’t. Maybe in a press release or interview, but not in a police report.
Read what the police reports state take the time and look instead of typing something you haven’t any info on.
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June 17th, 2008 at 8:58 am
This story is ridiculous. Being from Pittsburgh, I hate any and all things Philadelphia and am not a big fan of the Colts, but you must be joking. You can say that common sense says that he had the handgun before and after, but you have no one to say that he fired it. If they went to trial, what would they say? This gun was fired, people were injured, but they arent here and aren’t complaining. Harrison is right to not say anything, there is absolutely no way they can “prove” he fired it. So now you have a case with no witnesses, no victims, and a gun that no one knows who fired. Wow, I am shocked no charges have been filed. They would have an easier time if they filed the charges against me.
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June 17th, 2008 at 9:07 am
I haven’t seen anywhere on here anybody making excuses for him and as for if Marvin wanted to hide the gun your mouth would be the biddest place to hide it.
Take time to read all the posts clown, and next time learn how to spell. Sounds like your ass would be a bigger and according to you the BIDDEST place for it.
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June 17th, 2008 at 9:11 am
Kind of convenient how the gun was in his possession one day before and disappears for a shooting then reappears at his car wash the very next day? Whether or not he’s charged is one matter but something smells like the crud behind Phony Dungy’s big giant elephant ears.
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June 17th, 2008 at 9:23 am
If this goes the same route as Vick and Marvelous Marvin is found guilty of assault with a deadly weapon, will he not roller skate into the hall of fame on the first ballot regardless?
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