Well, it’s time to re-set the “Days Without A PFT Story Regarding The Patriots And Cheating” meter to “OO.”
But this latest topic is an oldie and not-so-goodie. It deals with the team’s “massaging” of the injury report, a phenomenon about which we’ve all been aware for years. A couple of years ago, quarterback Tom Brady played several games with a McNabb-style sports hernia, which was somehow kept under wraps until after the season.
In the days leading up to Super Bowl XLII, Brady again appeared on the injury report with his chronic shoulder injury, but no mention was made of the injury to his ankle that obviously limited him during the game.
Now (and as mentioned in a One-Liner earlier today by MDS), Pats cornerback Ellis Hobbs is speaking candidly about the team’s approach in this regard.
Hobbs has told the story of a very real injury to his groin, which became progressively worse over the course of the season.
“From camp, through the preseason, all the way to the regular season, it started aching a little more each day to where it got to the point where we definitely needed surgery,” Hobbs said.
But yet Hobbs showed up on the injury report only once after December 1.
So what gives?
“We keep things under wraps for a reason,” Hobbs said. “We never want things to leak out. Teams can use it against us, and strategize for players that are going to potentially be there or potentially not be there.”
Um, Ellis? Coach Belichick has scheduled you for another surgery. He thinks you need to have your vocal cords removed.
In our view, the league has been reluctant to nail teams that violate the injury-reporting rules, even when they are caught with a smoking gun in one hand and a cookie jar over the other. In the case of Brady’s sports hernia, we concluded that, as long as the truth doesn’t come out until after the season ends, there will be no repercussions.
And, clearly, other teams play games with the injury reports. Our concerns has been, and still is, that allowing teams to give incomplete information creates an incentive for gamblers and those who are otherwise “mobbed up” to provide envelopes full of cash and other inducements to the guy who washes the jock straps at $7.55 an hour in exchange for access to information about who’s really hurt, and who really isn’t.
Perhaps the reality is that the league has yet to come up with a way to effectively ensure that teams comply with the rules regarding the reporting of injuries, and that the league is content with a system that merely creates a general perception that everyone who is inclined to place (or take) a bet has access to reliable information.
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June 10th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Is Bill Cowher around?
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
washing jock straps for $7.55/hr? where do I sign up?
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
I think I’ll take a seat here and watch all the Pat’s fans do their impressions of the “Leave Brittney ALOOONE” dude/chick.
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
If the league won’t enforce infractions of the reporting rule, then it needs to eliminate it. Oddly, after paying $750K in fines, the Patriots can’t seem to avoid repeatedly violating the rules. Belichick kinda reminds me of Adam “Pacman” Jones, except Jones gets suspended for repeatedly failing to follow the rules.
It’s time for a Belichick suspension! And please, spare me the “everybody does it” false justification!
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
This is hardly news and hardly surprising. If Coach Bellicheat will systematically cheat via video taping, why would anybody be surprised that he stops there. In many ways, it is up to the player to stand up to this abuse because they are the ones paying the price over the long run.
If you believe in karma, the Patriots will never win another title under Bellicheat. The trend is already started, Bellicheat has some Superbowl title prior to Spygate but since he got busted and could not cheat in a Superbowl, he and the Patriots are 0-1. Hardly justice for their cheating ways but its a start.
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Massaging the injury report? Yawn… It’s football, everybody is hurt by week 5.
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Florio, do you really need to drum up traffic? The headline alone invites all the morons to reply to this posting.Please come up with a new scoop.
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
svnrdr says:
June 10th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
I think I’ll take a seat here and watch all the Pat’s fans do their impressions of the “Leave Brittney ALOOONE” dude/chick.
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OMFG!!! That is the most hysterical thing ever said!! I love it!!
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Leave BillY ALOOOONE!
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
As long as Mike Shanahan gets suspended for doing the same thing a few years ago, dummies.
“H@Y BILL BELLYCHEET DID SOMETHING WRONG AND MY TEAM NEVER DOES ANYTHING WRONG PLEASE LOOK AT MY TEAM ON THIS PEDASTLE WE ARE TEH NON CHEETERS BELLYCHEET IS TEH CHEET!”
Spare me this crap.
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
maybe they should change the system, so that the only people reported as injured are either unlikely to play or out all to gether. they could make the date of that report due on Friday morning. Unless a player is hurt at practice on Friday, the club would be fined for any player held out of a game that is not on that injury report.
In some ways, i can understand the teams problem. If they report a guy hurt, but not out, the other team will use that against them in a game.
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
When asked about Spygate, Ellis commented “Well if we can match up the signal they called with the play they ran, then we can know what is coming and call the right plays.”
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
The only reason for injury reports are for fantasy football and bettors.
/end Captain Obvious rant.
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
18 & 1 ????
the patriots and belichick are a cheating organization.
belichick will go down in history as a cheater.
A CHEATING DYNASTY.
Florio, when belichick is kicked out of the NFL is when all this storys should be dropped.
Thanks for all the info.
now let’s hear all pat’s fan whine.
any cheese with your wine pat’s fan ?
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Sorry Toad, I can’t spare you the “everybody does it” justification.
If Belichick is suspended for this, so should every other coach in the league because, yes, everybody does it.
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Hobbs practiced, and Hobbs played.
Where is the violation?
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Yawwwwn!
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Jeez, if you punish the Pats for this (the most the league has ever fined a team for cheating the the injury report was $25k vs. the Broncos in 1999), you will have to fine most of the league. USA Today did a report on it on November of the 2007 season and outed Bill Cowher as admitting to cheating the injury report and how the Texans last year listed Ahman Green as probable the Firday before the game against the Chargers in October and ended up not playing.
Fact of the matter is teams like Denver, Pittsburgh, and New England have been famous for playing games with the injury report for years. Many teams do.
So fine the Patriots $25k and be done with it. Big friggin deal. The league hasn’t fined anyone since 1999 eventhough everyone knows guys like Mike Shanahan and Bill Belichick and others have been manipulating the injury report for years.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2007-11-22-injury-report-cover_N.htm
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
bpenlandjr says:
OMFG!!! That is the most hysterical thing ever said!! I love it!!
OMFG, that’s the gayest thing anyone has ever said on here.
let’s count the ways the cheatriots have cheated….
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June 10th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
jmt57,
Exactly. The injury report has been changed during the week to eliminate teams from playing games. It is all based on participation. If Hobbs wasn’t limited in practice, there is no vioation.
To keep the Patriots haters happy, I say fine the Pats the maximum amount -$25k and be done with it. That will put them in the same category as the Broncos on this one. Only the Broncos have ever gotten fined the max amount for cheating the injury report and it was one of their Super Bowl years.
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June 10th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
message from a dead horse…”don’t stop beating me..i like it.”
somehow, jay glazer got video of bill billicheat filling out his injury report with false information. its going to be th efirst piece he does on the fox pregame show next year.
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June 10th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Who friggin’ cares about mobsters & gambling addicts anyways? I can’t wait ’till the season starts, so we all behold the masters of the grid iron: The New England Patriots.
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June 10th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Dynasties don’t lose Super Bowls…
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June 10th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
‘I think I’ll take a seat here and watch all the Pat’s fans do their impressions of the “Leave Brittney ALOOONE” dude/chick.’
Line of the day, this just destroyed me.
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June 10th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Belichick’s record with the Patriots: 86-26, 6 playoff appearances, 3 Super Bowl titles, 4 AFC titles and an undefeated regular season in 7 years.
You’d all have him coach your team if you could without hesitation.
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