The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have finally come up with the best possible strategy for dealing with the past rape allegations involving recently re-signed tight end Jerramy Stevens.
They’ve forbidden their fans from mentioning the situation on the team’s official message boards.
A reader sent to us a link to a message from a moderator, who explains that the “Jerramy Stevens article” (i.e., this one) may not be discussed on the official team message boards.
The “only“ reasons for the decision are:
(1) “If linked to, it will contains words which are censored here, and will thus be consided [sic] by-passing the censors.”
(2) “The article brings up, to paraphrase, forcing someone into sexual activities. That topic is not allowed here.”
The moderator then cautions that anyone posting or linking to the article “will be suspended,” and closes by calling the move “a warning as much as a favor.” (Whatever in the hell that means.)
It’s an intriguing approach. A team like the Bucs who has signed a player who (allegedly) has done certain unspeakable things can prevent discussion of the unspeakable things that the player (allegedly) has done by blocking discussion of such unspeakable things generally.
Hey, Bucs — you’re only making a bad situation worse, and you’re only providing folks who are inclined to criticize you for re-signing Stevens more fodder for keeping the story alive.
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June 8th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Glad to see Florio covering what I believe is becoming an increasing (and disturbing) trend in the NFL — the teams moderating their own message board in such a way as to promote certain agendas and players, and to squelch discussion of the most controversial (and thus interesting) topics.
I’ve seen countless examples of dissenting and critical opinions that run counter to the team’s marketing campaign that seem to routinely result in message board bannings, even when no profanity is used.
As a result, some of the team-run boards have become downright boring, as the most interesting posters always seem to get their accounts deleted.
Keep these stories coming, Florio!
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June 8th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
I’m surprised Jerry Jones hasn’t gotten on the horn trying to offer the Bucs a trade for Stevens after this.
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June 8th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
Clarifying Jerramy Stevens’ status
Okay, I think we’re just about sick of Jerramy Stevens, but I want to clear up some misinformation about his status with the league.
General manager Bruce Allen told the St. Petersburg Times today that the NFL will soon announce a suspension of at least two games for Stevens, but this one is totally unrelated to his one-game suspension served last season.
When Stevens was arrested in March 2007 in Scottsdale, Ariz., he was charged with both a DUI and possession of marijuana. Last year’s suspension was for the marijuana violation. That case was dismissed but only after Stevens completed a drug diversion program, according to a court official in Maricopa County, Ariz. He also was convicted on the DUI charge but was not immediately disciplined because the case was being appealed. Now that the case has run its course in the judicial system, Allen said the NFL is expected to announce an additional suspension of at least two games. The Bucs anticipate the league will reserve the right to add a third game to the suspension depending on Stevens’ “behavior”, though it’s unclear exactly how all that will be determined.
Stevens was suspended and docked two games’ pay by the league in November for the marijuana offense. He said today he had no knowledge of the league’s plans to assess further discipline. He also, according to a league official, has no say in how and when his suspension is served.
Allen said Stevens in all likelihood will miss the first two games, at New Orleans and at home against the Falcons.
… from blogs tampabay .
Just the facts, best as I can determine.
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June 8th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
Heaven forbid someone doing their homework before stating an uninformed opinion.
Rules of the Bucs Message Board are clear:
Offensive Content: Members are prohibited from posting or LINKING CONTENT containing racial & religious slurs, ethnic slurs & jokes, SEXUAL CONTENT, illegal content, hate groups, GRAPHIC OR DISTURBING CONTENT, profanity, discussions about illegal drugs, joking about or making light of player injury, or any other offensive content whatsoever, whether used as an example to make a point or in a more direct and malicious manner.
Bypassing The Censor: Members are prohibited from attempting to bypass the built-in sensor mechanism that automatically replaces profanity and other banned words & phrases with a series of asterisks. Bypassing is any action to thwart the intended function of the sensor, such as attempting to divulge the actual censored word or words by means of using other spellings, symbols, rhymes, or any facsimiles thereof.
If members have a problem following the rules there are plenty other options out there to discuss the situation. You wouldn’t be missed there.
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June 9th, 2008 at 1:06 am
@trixstal, lower than the Raiders? Name some crimanals with the Raiders now, you can’t, because there aren’t any, d-bag
However, I can name a few with the Cowboy’s
Turd Johnson
Pack Turd
trixturd,you aint been know where, you know nobody and you dont know shit.
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June 9th, 2008 at 1:33 am
You can’t polish a turd, no matter how badly the Bucs want to do so.
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June 9th, 2008 at 1:44 am
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June 8th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Gotta love the few Bucks fans that come on here and call it a dead issue. Didn’t he just get suspended ANOTHER two games? Doesn’t sound dead to me. Kudos again PFT for calling out the bad apples.
Actually no he didn’t just get suspended another 2 games but don’t let the fact get in the way of your holier than thou agenda will you?
Those 2 games were known about long ago and come from a previous issue, he was allowed to push them forward to this season. He’s still done nothing while being under 1 year low salary contracts with the Bucs, why not bash away at the Hawks who used a 1st rounder on the the guy and gave him a long term big money contract much closer to the time of the already know about alleged crime.
If you must whine at least spread your blame to places it’s far more deserved.
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June 9th, 2008 at 7:03 am
“Offensive Content: Members are prohibited from posting or LINKING CONTENT containing racial & religious slurs, ethnic slurs & jokes, SEXUAL CONTENT, illegal content, hate groups, GRAPHIC OR DISTURBING CONTENT, profanity, discussions about illegal drugs, joking about or making light of player injury, or any other offensive content whatsoever, whether used as an example to make a point or in a more direct and malicious manner.”
Rape is “sexual content”?? Dude, go see a shrink.
Thanks for posting that, though, because it clears up there was no rule against discussing a player’s criminal background in the first place. This is damage control, pure & simple.
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June 9th, 2008 at 8:10 am
How many stories about the bucs are you going to write before the start of the season? Save some of the negative stuffs you have against them until their playoff run in 2008.
The Cowboys have signed Pacman, are you aware of that and he was involved in shooting incidents and picked up by police more that six times since he was drafted where Steven was never been taken to court to whatever he was accused of and never was charged.
All of you sport writers had no problem of him coming out of college and being drafted by the Seahawks, but when the bucs resigned him all of the sudden, all these allegations and accusation come out.
He is innocent until he is proven guilty, thats all i am going to say
good move Gruden and bruce,
Good luck Steven
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June 9th, 2008 at 8:17 am
Thanks for posting this story Florio. There were a lot of killed threads discussing Stevens on TBBB the days after the Seattle Times expose… What happened with a lot of them is the mods would come by after we started discussing and gave us a warning, “Don’t link to the story” for the reasons given above. So the thread would live for awhile and we’d have a good discussion going and then some jack-off would come in and eventually post the link. Even if you agree with their interpretation of these “family” rules, the thing that pissed me off was that the Bucs never deleted or censored just the offending post - nor did they just close the thread - they deleted the whole thing. So our discussions went back to square one, new people coming in never heard about the story, and the cycle continued… I haven’t been back there since.
That’s news to me that mods aren’t team employees - either way they cetainly have an agenda over there.
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June 9th, 2008 at 8:21 am
How many stories about the bucs are you going to write before the start of the season. Save some of the negative stuff you have against them until their playoff run in 2008.
The Cowboys have signed Pacman, are you aware of that and he was involved in shooting incidents where Steven was never been taken to court to whatever he was accused of.
All of you sport writers had no problem of him coming out of college and being drafted by the Seahawks, but when the bucs resigned him all of the sudden, all these allegations and accusation come out.
He is innocent until he is proven guilty.
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June 9th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Way to strike a blow for free speech, guys! The first amendment LIVES!!!
It’s a good thing you don’t moderate comments on YOUR page….
or do you?
BcB
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June 9th, 2008 at 8:49 am
Great. You can’t TALK about the things that Stevens DID.
In other words, the Bucs have higher standards for their forums than they do for their roster!
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June 9th, 2008 at 9:36 am
“Rape is “sexual content”?? Dude, go see a shrink.
Thanks for posting that, though, because it clears up there was no rule against discussing a player’s criminal background in the first place. This is damage control, pure & simple. ”
You’re trying to say rape is not sexual content? The definition of rape is “a form of assault involving the non-consensual use of the sexual organs of another person’s body.” How is that not sexual?
This is not damage control, this is the board moderator (again, veteran member of the board, not actual team employee) asking members to remember the rules of the board. They don’t want kids that log onto the Bucs site to wind up reading about rape. That’s ALL this is. I hate Stevens as much as the next guy for what he did, and I don’t want him on the team, but this particular story about the TB message board has been completely blown out of proportion.
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June 9th, 2008 at 10:03 am
@ wingnut says:
“@trixstal, lower than the Raiders? Name some crimanals with the Raiders now, you can’t, because there aren’t any, d-bag”
Too easy.
Sebastard Janikowski
Kalimba Edwards
Gerard Warren
Keith Millard
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June 9th, 2008 at 10:06 am
“They don’t want kids that log onto the Bucs site to wind up reading about rape.”
But it’s ok for them to watch a rapist play?
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June 9th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Florio sucks!! I’ll be back in five minutes to check for new stories.
If you hate Mike so much, there’s lots of other sources for NFL stories.
Rock on, florio.
Did you know that Stevens went to the same high school as Jonathan Stewart? AND the punter for Cornell?? Pretty interesting, huh?
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June 9th, 2008 at 11:29 am
“But it’s ok for them to watch a rapist play?”
How is watching a rapist play football different from anyone else playing football? Kids wouldn’t know he’s a rapist.
Again, I’m not condoning the signing of Stevens. He should have never been in the NFL in the first place and I’m madder than hell that he’s still on the Bucs roster. However, Florio completely misunderstood that message board post.
albaNY Hawker has it exactly right…the Bucs message board has much higher standards than the Bucs have for their players. Probably due to the fact that they are not run by the same people.
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June 9th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Message boards are stupid anyway.
Nobody cares about your opinions, fans.
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June 9th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
UMBF - I disagree that this is being blown out of proportion by PFT. The TB mods (I’m talking back in Jan/Feb when the news article came out - I can’t vouch for recent events) did not warn anyone, send PMs, or post any notices/stickies, as they would for any other “censor” infraction. It was ridiculous, they were immediately deleting threads that were simply about asking why any/all of the J. Stevens thread were being struck down.
They reacted in a very heavy-handed manner, and one could not help but feel they were trying to bury the issue.
I have no doubt that if they could stop us from talking about it elsewhere, they would certainly try. I’m sure they are reacting to this PFT post with their usual disclaimer, “profootballtalk.com is not recognized by the TBBB as a reliable source for NFL news…” blah blah
Other comments here are right on - the sad thing is that he’s accused of acts so abhorrent, that they can’t even be spoken of - yet he has faced no consequence because he has the physical *potential* to be a monster on the field.
So far the ends have not come close to justifying the means.
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June 9th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
In the pursuit of accuracy (not sure that’s going to matter here) I posted the un-edited comments by the Bucs moderator:
The article is not allowed to be discussed on these boards.
The only reasons for this are:
1. If linked to, it will contains words which are censored here, and will thus be consided by-passing the censors.
2. The article brings up, to paraphrase, forcing someone into sexual activities. That topic is not allowed here.
Anyone posting the article, or linking to it, will be suspended. This does not mean you are not allowed to disuss Stevens, however, let’s keep 1 and 2 out of it, shall we?
This is a warning as much as a favor.
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Correct me if I’m wrong (first time for everything) but does it not expressly say that this does not mean you are not allowed to discuss Stevens? It looks to me that the contents of the article (i.e. rape) are seen as not becoming of a family board. If you do a search under my username over there I believe you’ll find quite a number of posts regarding Stevens and the “instance” in question and my feelings regarding him being on the team. I have yet to receive a susupension, or a message from the Glazers asking me to cease and desist.
If you’re going to bag another board at least have your shit together and know what the hell you’re talking about Florio. Hell, if you play your cards right, maybe users won’t be suspended for linking to your “insider” reports as fact over there when they consistently turn out to be crap.
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June 9th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
C’mon Mr. Florio…
This is irresponsible reporting at it’s worst. ANYONE that read the thread that the TBBB moderator posted should have enough requisite intelligence to realize that the discussion of whether or not Stevens should be on the Bucs is perfectly allowed. This includes YOU Mr. Florio.
To insinuate that the Bucs Organization is trying to deny negative discussion obviously didn’t do their homework. Unless the Glazers AGREE that Jon Gruden should be fired, or that the Bucs probably won’t make the playoffs next year.
The Glazers do not moderate the forum. They may read it on occasion, but the senior posters run the forum.
Over-moderation? Are you kidding me? If anything, the biggest complaints over there are from posters complaining that NOT enough is being done to protect THEIR bruised egos.
Shame on you, Mr. Florio.
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June 9th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
“How is watching a rapist play football different from anyone else playing football? Kids wouldn’t know he’s a rapist.”
Unless someone told them, or they read it somewhere. No, you wouldn’t know just by looking, but in this age of the internet and 24 hour news channels, it’s a lot easier to run across information like that by accident than it used to be. The more trouble a guy like Stevens gets into, the more his past will be talked about, the more people will know about his past. If the Bucs are so concerned about PR, they shouldn’t have taken him on. I realize that the same people aren’t running both the team and the board, but the Bucs as an organization have ultimate jurisdiction over both and any double standard between the two is of their own actions or inactions.
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June 9th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
UMBF, i hear what you’re saying, but rape is a violent assault inflicting power and humiliation on a victim. It’s not “sex” even if it involves a sexual organ. It’s a violent crime, and rapists are violent criminals.
The rule against sexual content is patently to warn against guys posting nudie links or pics of naked women. I still think it stinks of damage control over resigning Stevens.
However, I was wrong earlier saying the ban is on the team’s official site - I didn’t realize the TBBB is a fan site.
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