Comments on: SAINTS FIRE MUELLER http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:04:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: jeanpierre http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38855 jeanpierre Fri, 06 Jun 2008 12:37:23 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38855 This story should get as much play as the CBA ongoing saga... It strikes to the core of what is wrong with NFL owners... The only owners as bad as Benson is Bidwell and Ford... Some these posters like ryc30078 need to have their meds checked if they think Mickey Loomis is a good executive... The best thing he ever did was acquiese to his boss, Benson, and stand in his wedding and pay for his own tuxedo; ask Florio, he'll tell you; in fact, he should repost that story, priceless... This story should get as much play as the CBA ongoing saga…

It strikes to the core of what is wrong with NFL owners…

The only owners as bad as Benson is Bidwell and Ford…

Some these posters like ryc30078 need to have their meds checked if they think Mickey Loomis is a good executive…

The best thing he ever did was acquiese to his boss, Benson, and stand in his wedding and pay for his own tuxedo; ask Florio, he’ll tell you; in fact, he should repost that story, priceless…

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]]> By: LBcrazy13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38549 LBcrazy13 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:48:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38549 Another football guy gets his walking papers in favor of a money guy...the NFL is going to hell if you're not a Moneyball attorney whose main function is to suck up to ownership. And someone said that I need psychiatric help *shakes head*... Another football guy gets his walking papers in favor of a money guy…the NFL is going to hell if you’re not a Moneyball attorney whose main function is to suck up to ownership. And someone said that I need psychiatric help *shakes head*…

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]]> By: jeezy http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38276 jeezy Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:22:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38276 mike florio, Can you please drug test some of these posters on your website before they pop off. Can these people read, they are confusing Randy Mueller with Rick Mueller. If these "experts" actually read your website, they would have realized that Randy Mueller was hired by A.J. Smith to work in San Diego and that Rick Mueller is a completely different guy. I can't believe the IQ level on PFT, maybe these are some of Eskin's listeners that read this site. mike florio,

Can you please drug test some of these posters on your website before they pop off. Can these people read, they are confusing Randy Mueller with Rick Mueller. If these “experts” actually read your website, they would have realized that Randy Mueller was hired by A.J. Smith to work in San Diego and that Rick Mueller is a completely different guy. I can’t believe the IQ level on PFT, maybe these are some of Eskin’s listeners that read this site.

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]]> By: agomila http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38193 agomila Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:14:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38193 As a Saints fan, I'm somewhat frightened by this. First of all, Mueller was a football guy, Loomis is a money guy, and I have no reason to trust his player evaluation skills. Worse, if the rumor that Payton will be exerting more control over personnel is true, I'm terrified. Not only do I think it's almost always a bad idea for a coach to "pick the groceries" (Holmgren, Shanahan being examples of very good coaches who can't evaluate talent), but Payton shows the possibility to become Mike Martz Jr. with some of his bizarre play calling (reverse against the Bucs last year, overuse of Bush when it's not working) and game management, and I'm not so comfortable with him picking the players too. Next thing you know we'll have Trung Candidate's little brother and ten other running backs, but no defensive players... As a Saints fan, I’m somewhat frightened by this. First of all, Mueller was a football guy, Loomis is a money guy, and I have no reason to trust his player evaluation skills. Worse, if the rumor that Payton will be exerting more control over personnel is true, I’m terrified. Not only do I think it’s almost always a bad idea for a coach to “pick the groceries” (Holmgren, Shanahan being examples of very good coaches who can’t evaluate talent), but Payton shows the possibility to become Mike Martz Jr. with some of his bizarre play calling (reverse against the Bucs last year, overuse of Bush when it’s not working) and game management, and I’m not so comfortable with him picking the players too. Next thing you know we’ll have Trung Candidate’s little brother and ten other running backs, but no defensive players…

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]]> By: ehatem http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38151 ehatem Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:38:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38151 I'll agree that in the 2007 draft the Saints got debacled (Thanks Emmitt). But you can't throw Mueller under the bus for the 2007 draft without giving the man huge props for the 2006 draft. Throw Reggie Bush out of it. You still have Roman Harper, Jahari Evans, and Marques Colston who all started. And they got great sub play from Ninkovich and Strief. And thats not counting picking up Weatherford as a street free agent. Simply put, the fantastic run in 2006 never happens without this draft. I don't know if he should be fired or not. The inner workings of the Saints are best left to madman to ponder. All I'm saying is don't call the man worthless without looking beyond one year. I’ll agree that in the 2007 draft the Saints got debacled (Thanks Emmitt). But you can’t throw Mueller under the bus for the 2007 draft without giving the man huge props for the 2006 draft. Throw Reggie Bush out of it. You still have Roman Harper, Jahari Evans, and Marques Colston who all started. And they got great sub play from Ninkovich and Strief. And thats not counting picking up Weatherford as a street free agent. Simply put, the fantastic run in 2006 never happens without this draft.
I don’t know if he should be fired or not. The inner workings of the Saints are best left to madman to ponder. All I’m saying is don’t call the man worthless without looking beyond one year.

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]]> By: Mr. Touchdown http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38139 Mr. Touchdown Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:51:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38139 Ferris Mueller's day off? Ferris Mueller’s day off?

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]]> By: Osiris33 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38120 Osiris33 Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:10:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38120 Yeah, Randy Mueller sucks. All he's done in his career is draft Joey Galloway, Pete Kendall, Fred Thomas, Phillip Daniels, Shawn Springs, Walter Jones, Itula Mili, Anthony Simmons, Todd Weiner, Ahman Green, Darren Howard, Marc Bulger and Deuce McCalister. That is no reason to think he knows anything. I mean, just because all those guys were at least 7-year starters in the NFL, well, that doesn't prove a thing! Yeah, Randy Mueller sucks. All he’s done in his career is draft Joey Galloway, Pete Kendall, Fred Thomas, Phillip Daniels, Shawn Springs, Walter Jones, Itula Mili, Anthony Simmons, Todd Weiner, Ahman Green, Darren Howard, Marc Bulger and Deuce McCalister. That is no reason to think he knows anything.

I mean, just because all those guys were at least 7-year starters in the NFL, well, that doesn’t prove a thing!

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]]> By: Dan1919 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38077 Dan1919 Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:39:20 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38077 Dont bash Randy Mueller. He stockpiled some draft picks for the Dolphins. He was able to get two 2nd round picks for a Pro Bowl TE (Donald Lee, a WR that only caught 112 balls (Welker), and Chris Chambers. I think that is a great job by a GM. Probably because I am a Patriots fan Dont bash Randy Mueller. He stockpiled some draft picks for the Dolphins. He was able to get two 2nd round picks for a Pro Bowl TE (Donald Lee, a WR that only caught 112 balls (Welker), and Chris Chambers.

I think that is a great job by a GM. Probably because I am a Patriots fan

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]]> By: ryc30078 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38072 ryc30078 Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:26:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38072 Good Riddance to Rick Mueller. After that disasterous 2007 draft class for the Saints he should have been let go. I was surprised he stayed this long with the Saints after his brohter got canned by Tom Benson 5 years ago. Mickey Loomis is one of the better gm's in the league today; He has the Saints in great shape salary cap wise. The Saints organization is tem times better ever isnce Mickey Loomis became GM; The Saints under Loomis leadership are one the league's better run small market teams. Good Riddance to Rick Mueller. After that disasterous 2007 draft class for the Saints he should have been let go. I was surprised he stayed this long with the Saints after his brohter got canned by Tom Benson 5 years ago. Mickey Loomis is one of the better gm’s in the league today; He has the Saints in great shape salary cap wise. The Saints organization is tem times better ever isnce Mickey Loomis became GM; The Saints under Loomis leadership are one the league’s better run small market teams.

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]]> By: JohnnyH http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38071 JohnnyH Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:25:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38071 More and more, the bean counters are taking over the football side of things, not good. Eventually the game of Football will literally just be a bunch of accountants running around chasing a dollar bill. More and more, the bean counters are taking over the football side of things, not good. Eventually the game of Football will literally just be a bunch of accountants running around chasing a dollar bill.

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]]> By: bubba http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38029 bubba Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:32:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38029 Randy Mueller is the complete spare. I am not familiar with Rick. Randy will run a franchise in the gorund for you and then get hired onto ESPN as an Expert. Hahahahahahha. Randy Mueller an Expert. What are the qualifications for that designation? Getting fired everywhere you go for completely turning the Team into a toilet? THen Randy is an expert. Randy Mueller is the complete spare. I am not familiar with Rick. Randy will run a franchise in the gorund for you and then get hired onto ESPN as an Expert. Hahahahahahha. Randy Mueller an Expert. What are the qualifications for that designation? Getting fired everywhere you go for completely turning the Team into a toilet? THen Randy is an expert.

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]]> By: Gulf Coast Offense http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38022 Gulf Coast Offense Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:24:40 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38022 Wow, two Muellers get their walking papers from the Saints Wow, two Muellers get their walking papers from the Saints

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]]> By: Eric http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38020 Eric Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:24:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/06/04/saints-fire-mueller/#comment-38020 Those of us in Detroit know all too well about "having ownership's ear" and its consequences. Those of us in Detroit know all too well about “having ownership’s ear” and its consequences.

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