The NFL Players Association hopes to groom an eventual replacement for Executive Director Gene Upshaw. Maybe Cowboys receiver Terrell Owens wants the job.
Owens chimed in on Wednesday regarding the fact that player contracts aren’t guaranteed.
“I hear a lot of players complain and gripe about the fact that we don’t have guaranteed contracts,” Owens said. “It’s not like the money isn’t out there. . . . It’s a situation where I think players should really just stand up for what we believe in instead of just chirping amongst ourselves about what isn’t done and what should be done.
“I think there is player loyalty, but sometimes I don’t think there’s any team loyalty to it, especially when guys have contracts that are about to expire,” Owens said. “Teams can cut them at any given time. They have a back-loaded contract, and they don’t want to pay that player that money, then they cut them. It’s not a good situation.”
(Coincidentally, Owens’ contract is set to expire after the 2008 season.)
What Owens is forgetting (intentionally or otherwise) is that the guaranteed money comes in the form of the big-dollar signing bonuses and other payments made in the first three years of the deal, when the cap hit resulting from cutting the player makes it virtually impossible to do so. That’s why contracts typically are evaluated based on the guaranteed money and the amount to be paid in the first three years.
If contracts were fully guaranteed, the contracts wouldn’t be worth much more than the guaranteed money that the player currently receives. The phony backloading tactics, which are more about helping players win the “my [insert car, bank account, and/or body part here] is bigger than yours” game in the locker room and about aiding agents’ efforts to recruit more players, would evaporate immediately.
The other problem is that guaranteed contracts would mean that there would be less money available for the players who actually are on the team and contributing to the effort, since released players would still be getting their cut of the salary cap pie. In some instances, the guaranteed nature of the contracts would compel teams to keep otherwise washed-up players, limiting opportunities for younger guys to gain the reps necessary to make big money later in their careers.
So be careful what you wish for, players. Indeed, it was your desire to get true free agency that created the system in which it often makes sense for a team to part ways with a player who otherwise had no desire to leave his current NFL city.
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May 28th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
EAGLES SUCK! DALLAS SUCK!
HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW!
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May 28th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Upshaw or TO?? Upshaw or TO?? Upshaw or TO?? This is as bad as choosing a presidential canidate!!
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May 28th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
No I don’t agree with you here T.O., contracts have to be part guaranteed, part performance based, if they’re just all guaranteed money a player will easily lose interest in putting out their best in tough (losing) situations since doing his best as it wouldn’t affect his income. The system there is now makes sure the players get a good amount of money in case of injury, and also makes sure the player puts out their best out there every year. If they player is uncomfortable with the structure of the contract (majority of the money towards the end) then they should push to have more even contracts, year over year.
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May 28th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Gaurunteed contracts would be a very bad thing given the behaviour of NFL players these days. If you perform then you get paid. That’s how it works. If you don’t perform you’re history………and that’s the way it should be. I don’t want to see NFL primadonnas huffing it all over the field because they know they have a paycheck no matter what they do on the field.
The only way the NFL should even consider it should be if there are built in on-field performance requirements in each contract that a player muct live up to or the contract becomes null and void.
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May 28th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
this from the guy who played one year on his last contract before holding out.
he is really not the one to talk about teams “not honoring” contracts
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May 29th, 2008 at 12:42 am
The union could get guaranteed salaries any time they want - they just have to give something to get something. Like, for instance, signing bonuses. The owners might be willing to give on guaranteed contracts if they didnt’ have to pay big money up front for no work. How many guys want to give up the big chunk of change in the signing bonus for the guarantee later? Somehow, players like T.O. think they’ll get something for nothing.
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May 29th, 2008 at 1:12 am
I hate both those teams but since you’re typing in caps, you’re clearly an idiot wingnut…
The day the NFL gives guaranteed contracts will be the death of the sport in my opinion and the NFL has to know that. There are so many examples of players “mailing-it-in,” in other sports the minute they got paid the big guaranteed contract. Just a few off the top of my head right now: Darius Miles, Miguel Cabrera, Vin Baker.
The NFL is what it is partially because players are incentivized to earn their contracts and also to not have to pay back signing bonuses (see Ricky Williams, Jake Plummer.) It’s the other sports that would do well to get rid of their guaranteed contracts, not the other way around terrell
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May 29th, 2008 at 2:00 am
How can anyone say this? Owens gets paid a boatload and he’s crying? Since when does he care about what everyone else is paid? It’s just BS so he can get even more money, which isn’t necessary. Look at guys like Tom Brady; took a paycut so his team could afford to sign free agents and rookies that were desperately needed for their defense. He gets less than $8 million per year. Yes, yes, we know he has endorsements and sponsors and blah blah, but so does every other HUGE athlete. Florio is right, today, that the signing bonus is of course pretty much the guaranteed contract (being within the first 3 years). This should be obvious to Owens, or more specifically Drew Rosenhaus, that is if he knew Owens was out preaching.
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May 29th, 2008 at 2:33 am
thanks wingnut for a very insightfull comment that is right on target with the topic
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May 29th, 2008 at 3:30 am
Perhaps this is TO as a child. Wait until :15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93CPo0sBVZc&feature=related
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May 29th, 2008 at 6:23 am
These players are guaranteed more money than most of us will see in a lifetime. It’s already bs that these players can continue to get paid even after getting cut, or that teams have to keep a non-productive player on their roster because of the cap hit. If I lose my job tomorrow, that’s the end of my paychecks, and my boss would feel no obligation to keep me around if I was performing below their standards. Perform up to your contract’s expectations and you won’t have a problem. Even the UDFA minimum is more than I make in 3 years.
Also, players already making millions should think twice before whining about money, in a time when so many people out there are having to choose between filling the gas tank and paying the electric bill. Not exactly good PR at the moment. But then, when has T.O. ever thought twice before opening his mouth?
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May 29th, 2008 at 8:13 am
I see the players’ perspective. They see other sports like the NBA and MLB where the players are guaranteed money and contracts must be bought out. The thing that perhaps TO is overlooking is that in a world of guaranteed contracts you can’t pull anything to alter that contract at all. For instance, say a player thinks he “outperformed his contract” (know anyone like that TO?). When was the last time you saw a top notch player in the NBA or MLB sit out for a better contract? They don’t because they can’t. In some situations they may be eligible for arbitration but more often than not they are stuck with the contract they signed.
Again like Florio says, be careful what you wish for.
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May 29th, 2008 at 9:26 am
I love me some T.O. even though he spurned my team and the pathetic Billick offense, he had every moral right to pick his team at that stage of his carreer.
The NFL is the only buis in the USA without gauranteed contracts. They don’t really deserve to be called contracts by definition because only one party is binded to the agreement.
The notion that they already got “BIG Money” signing bonuses is relativly puny compared to Melvin Mora money. Melvin mora makes more than T.O., more than Ray Lewis, and he plays mediocre 3rd base for the Sorryoles. 3 years 30 million is the contract he got and will get every dime of it even though they would really like to unload him at this point.
Baseball does suck, mainly because of finacial issues, but from a players perspective the money those guys make has got to infuriating to NFL stars. Hockey players make more money and have gauranteed contracts and they just went through a huge lockout and 25% paycut.
Fair contracts will not hurt the game. They can still have a salary cap to protect competitve balance, and an arbitration system like MLB to protect aganist underpaid players not yet eligible for free agency.
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May 29th, 2008 at 9:32 am
These players know, for the most part, when they sign the contract how much money they are going to see. Most contracts are backloaded anyway with a bunch of money. Typically, they either be resigned, released, or traded before they see any of that.
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May 29th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Players should have the right to opt out of a contract in a similar fashion to how teams cut players. If a player is unhappy with the team or their contract, they should have the right to pay back the prorated signing bonus forthe years remaining on the contract and void the contract. This creates a fair system in which players can quit as well as be fired, however there is a disincentive for either event to occur for both parties.
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May 29th, 2008 at 11:20 am
If a player wants his contract 100% guaranteed there is nothing stopping him from negogiating that contract for himself. The players act like the owners give them what the owners want to pay them and the players have no say. It goes both ways, the contract has to be agreed by both parties.
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May 29th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
My logic is that if baseball, basketball, and hockey all have a form a guranteed contract then why doesn’t the NFL. The owners argued that the CBA was unfair to them but what about the players who put their bodies on the line every sunday. An example would be kevin everet of the bills. He was a young player still in his rookie contract which means lower salary. He broke his neck and now the bills cut him saving more money. Now this guy could have had 3 years remaining on his contract. Now he has to go on the rest of his life like this and basically have nothing to show for it. A million dollars when you are 24 doesn’t not last forever.
Football is a violent sport thus it should give a form of compensation to its players. Guranteed contracts would ultimately ensure player longevity with the teams and would decrease cap concerns because you could prepare it much better. Look at how backloading and escalators backfired on the cardinals with larry fitzgerald. He was supposed to make 14 then 17 million dollars when if the contact was guranteed and prorated this problem would have never arose. The counter arguement is that rookies who don’t play well will benefit tremendously. My argument is that PAY THEM LESS. Why are guys coming out of college getting 73 million dollar deals when they never played a snap. Make the rookie contracts shorter so that if they exceed them they could get paid with in three years rather then five or six.
Sorry but the richiest sport in america should not be raping the players that make the sport a household brand.
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May 29th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
jhrsd, you said exactly what I was thinking as I read T.O.’s words…”I think there is player loyalty…” This guy held out of camp and whined about “outperforming” his contract.
I agree with the idea that the current system is a good system, unlike baseball, where you sign a player, he gets hurt or just doesn’t get it at the big level, and then you have to pay him a large sum of money for years because you can’t trade him, and you are stuck paying him.
The biggest problem is the skyrocketing rookie salaries. For instance, Brian Westbrook signed a fair deal for both sides, but, as the value of the rookie contracts went up and the production didn’t match what Westbrook could produce, it makes players unhappy. Escalation clauses in the contract would be nice, but are too much of a poison because teams have the cap and the incoming rookie salaries to worry about.
So, in essence T.O., your deal in 2009 will be limited by what teams may have to hold out for because they have to concern themselves with some unnamed underclassman this year in college in future years. If the CBA addresses this issue, the existing players will see more in guaranteed money and more in contracts that actually mean something.
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May 29th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
TO is the last guy you want to pay any guaranteed money to.
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May 29th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
I’d love to see TO as union rep: “That’s my CBA man …(sniff)…you messin with my clauses man, and it ain’t right (whaaaaa)…”
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May 29th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
NFL players aren’t hired for their brains, you know. If they were, T.O. would be on a different career path… servin’ up Big Macs.
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May 29th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
I remember some time back I saw a documentary on TO. It talked about how he was marginalized throughout most of his college career, and that maybe his carving for attention was spawned from that. I really felt sorry for him at that point. And now I am honestly happy that things have worked out for him in Dallas. Sure, it makes it tougher for the Gmen to get to the playoffs, but I think a strong division (and is there any tougher than the NFC East?) makes my team even stronger.
Still not sure about Pacman though, but I was skeptical about TO at first too. But if Pacman is able to play this year it will only make the Giants WRs strive to get better.
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May 30th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
T.O. is the last person to talk about guaranteeing a contract after he failed to live up to the one he signed in Philly after that first year.
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