Comments on: WALSH DIDN’T FILM RAMS DURING 2001 REGULAR SEASON http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:11:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: drock81 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-37064 drock81 Mon, 02 Jun 2008 03:02:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-37064 Great Falconi, why don't you do some research on Ernie Adams if you really want to know so much about him? Is that Great Falconi reference regarding an allegiance with the Atlanta Falcons perhaps? If it is than why is it ok for all the Pats haters to be ok with signing a front office person or a coach or a player from the Patriots? It's alright to point fingers but if a player or a coach from here becomes available you guys would eat them up like a fat chick at the drive thru of a donut shop!!! Great Falconi,
why don’t you do some research on Ernie Adams if you really want to know so much about him? Is that Great Falconi reference regarding an allegiance with the Atlanta Falcons perhaps? If it is than why is it ok for all the Pats haters to be ok with signing a front office person or a coach or a player from the Patriots? It’s alright to point fingers but if a player or a coach from here becomes available you guys would eat them up like a fat chick at the drive thru of a donut shop!!!

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]]> By: drock81 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-37059 drock81 Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:52:20 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-37059 South Fl Steel or whatever your name is get a grip. Try obsessing over something that's going on this year for a change homo. South Fl Steel or whatever your name is get a grip. Try obsessing over something that’s going on this year for a change homo.

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]]> By: GR365 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35718 GR365 Wed, 28 May 2008 15:11:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35718 Selective reading? I said BB's explanation was non-sense! He knew the "video taping was against the rules," which is why Walsh said he knew it was wrong! Hence the canned excuses! What you're not getting here is that's why the huge fine! BB tried to push the envelope! He got caught! Told the Commissioner he'd been taping since taking over in 2000. Why the Commissioner wasn't upfront with that information is beyond me? It does explain the Mega-fine. You saw yourself what was on the tapes, or else you probably wouldn't comment on a story your not familiar with? Cheerleaders and wristbands! Personel groupings, 2 fingers, 4 fingers cover2, I know what going on just from watching the game! Are you telling me that they gleaned info. from those tapes that would have made a game changing difference? Not from what I saw! Although I did enjoy watching the Cheerleaders! You don't know how BB thinks, knowledge is power! Why not look at the tape and see if any trends in thier signals? Stealing signals is Legal! I'll say it again, stealing signals is legal! Video taping isn't! You can steal signals all day long! Does it help? It can't hurt! It is a time consuming effort! The tape has to be edited. Synced with the game. The tape would be the same length as the game! The full tape would take 3,4 hours to break down! Additional time to figure out which coach was the decoy and which coach was live! The information could be used in the NEXT meeting with that opponent! Your team does the same thing, differintly. The steal signals, they just didn't tape them!(as far as we know)The Jet's weren't investigated even though Walsh said they were taping too! Most teams advance scout, they'll go watch the previous opponent and see what they can pick up! Everybody steals signals. It's completely legal and it would be incompetence not to scout! I will not defend the video taping, it's clear it was illegal! What I will defend is my position that this doesn't rise to the level of cheating. I view it as advanced scouting, with a twist! I just don't think it's as big of an advantage that some make it out to be! Did it help? Probably picked up a signal here and there, but to say that's why they won so many games is non-sense! I guess asking for a little common sense is asking to much? Haphazardly? Is that a word? Anyway, BB did break the rules and did use a video camera to tape signals. He was fined "Bigtime," and his reputation is damaged as the premier head coach in the NFL! All this other stuff, IR players practicing, Scalping SB tickets! Is an attempt to keep the feeding frenzy going! I have never seen a story so hyped and targeted as this one!(maybe the Duke Lacroos team) I mean I can't believe the hate! Some of you won't be happy until BB is executed! You want this story to completely ruin the Patriots and BB, some have even called for the Franchise to be dis-banded! In the previous years prior to 2006, alot of teams were at it! When the clarification memo was released in 2006. It was pretty clear that video taping of the Coaches was against the rules! Most teams stopped thier "video taping," but, BB pushed the envelope! So weather you steal the signals with spyglasses from the booth, have the back up QB chart the calls! It's the same thing! Except with the tape, you can't use the information right away! You have to wait until it's edited and organized. Perspective...All teams steal signals! That's part of the game! Low tech audio recorders and clipboards, binoculars and advance scouts. All coaches cover thier mouth, regardless of opponent! They know the signals are fair game! To my surprise, I see that alot of posters here really don't know the rules of the game! What's legal and what isn't, but you know enough to call for BB's head! Rightious! Selective reading? I said BB’s explanation was non-sense! He knew the “video taping was against the rules,” which is why Walsh said he knew it was wrong! Hence the canned excuses!
What you’re not getting here is that’s why the huge fine! BB tried to push the envelope! He got caught! Told the Commissioner he’d been taping since taking over in 2000. Why the Commissioner wasn’t upfront with that information is beyond me? It does explain the Mega-fine.
You saw yourself what was on the tapes, or else you probably wouldn’t comment on a story your not familiar with? Cheerleaders and wristbands! Personel groupings, 2 fingers, 4 fingers cover2, I know what going on just from watching the game! Are you telling me that they gleaned info. from those tapes that would have made a game changing difference? Not from what I saw! Although I did enjoy watching the Cheerleaders!
You don’t know how BB thinks, knowledge is power! Why not look at the tape and see if any trends in thier signals? Stealing signals is Legal! I’ll say it again, stealing signals is legal! Video taping isn’t! You can steal signals all day long! Does it help? It can’t hurt! It is a time consuming effort! The tape has to be edited. Synced with the game. The tape would be the same length as the game! The full tape would take 3,4 hours to break down! Additional time to figure out which coach was the decoy and which coach was live! The information could be used in the NEXT meeting with that opponent!
Your team does the same thing, differintly. The steal signals, they just didn’t tape them!(as far as we know)The Jet’s weren’t investigated even though Walsh said they were taping too! Most teams advance scout, they’ll go watch the previous opponent and see what they can pick up! Everybody steals signals. It’s completely legal and it would be incompetence not to scout!
I will not defend the video taping, it’s clear it was illegal! What I will defend is my position that this doesn’t rise to the level of cheating. I view it as advanced scouting, with a twist! I just don’t think it’s as big of an advantage that some make it out to be! Did it help? Probably picked up a signal here and there, but to say that’s why they won so many games is non-sense!
I guess asking for a little common sense is asking to much? Haphazardly? Is that a word? Anyway, BB did break the rules and did use a video camera to tape signals. He was fined “Bigtime,” and his reputation is damaged as the premier head coach in the NFL!
All this other stuff, IR players practicing, Scalping SB tickets! Is an attempt to keep the feeding frenzy going! I have never seen a story so hyped and targeted as this one!(maybe the Duke Lacroos team) I mean I can’t believe the hate! Some of you won’t be happy until BB is executed! You want this story to completely ruin the Patriots and BB, some have even called for the Franchise to be dis-banded! In the previous years prior to 2006, alot of teams were at it! When the clarification memo was released in 2006. It was pretty clear that video taping of the Coaches was against the rules! Most teams stopped thier “video taping,” but, BB pushed the envelope! So weather you steal the signals with spyglasses from the booth, have the back up QB chart the calls! It’s the same thing! Except with the tape, you can’t use the information right away! You have to wait until it’s edited and organized.
Perspective…All teams steal signals! That’s part of the game! Low tech audio recorders and clipboards, binoculars and advance scouts. All coaches cover thier mouth, regardless of opponent! They know the signals are fair game! To my surprise, I see that alot of posters here really don’t know the rules of the game! What’s legal and what isn’t, but you know enough to call for BB’s head! Rightious!

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]]> By: brian_21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35590 brian_21 Wed, 28 May 2008 05:07:39 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35590 Elaine Benez would be happy with all those explanation points. But her then boyfriend would point out, "Maybe I don't use my explanation points as haphazardly as you do." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rd7j-aSqFU Importantly, GR365, if the taping did NOT help, then why would the Patriots keep doing it? I got it! Because taping the opponents' signals helps! Elaine Benez would be happy with all those explanation points. But her then boyfriend would point out, “Maybe I don’t use my explanation points as haphazardly as you do.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rd7j-aSqFU

Importantly, GR365, if the taping did NOT help, then why would the Patriots keep doing it?

I got it!

Because taping the opponents’ signals helps!

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]]> By: GR365 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35363 GR365 Tue, 27 May 2008 19:19:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35363 Come on September! What will end this entire mess? The Patriots winning the SuperBowl this year! That's BB's goal! When he wins a couple more with Tom and Randy and the rest of the boys! Maybe, just maybe some of the vitriol and hate will subside? If I asked the question what was BB fined for? Half the posters here wouldn't know! That's been the issue with this story, supposition and incorrect information from reporters on TV and the print media! BB was fined for using a video camera to record signals(off. and def.)500K and a 1st round selection. The Patriots were fined 250K. The "walkthrough Tape," was an unsubstaciated rumor, written and reported by John Tomase of the Boston Herald. Result, a full page ad apology to the Patriots! The worse thing about it was when it was done! The day before the SuperBowl! Unforgivable!!! Tomase is "Deadman Walking," around Foxboro. I can't see him resuming his duties covering the Patriots! Who would trust him? Matt Walsh, isn't a hero in all of this. He has forever damaged his reputation over a get even mentality. What was he hoping to gain? Is there a book in his future? We don't know, only Matt can answer that question. Would a hero of yours booby trap his bed, to keep his room mate from soiling his sheets? Well, Walsh did that and more! He stole several items from his employer and was fired for taping phone converstions of his employers. In his wedding photo's and made up resume, there's memorabilia laying everywhere! Specter has behaived as a bully in the school yard! Abusing his authority on the over-sight committee. He has done everything within his power to userp Goodell's authority as Commissioner! Comcast and the NFL are in court as we speak, the NFL wants you to have the Network for free and Comcast doesn't! We're talking huge money here! Comcast is one of Specter's largest campaign contributors and he has interest in holding this situation over Goodell's head! Do you really think this is about the Eagles or Steeler's? How about the millions of dollars Comcast would lose if, the NFLN was part ot the basic tier of cable companies? ESPN has completely jumped the shark! First, Easterbrook! His rambling on articles that talk about space flight and other non-sense football fans don't care about! Schlereth, Carter and Trey Wingo! Trying to convince anyone who would listen that the Pats broke down the tape at halftime. They went on and on, until Goodell stated that Walsh said "he had the tape in his possesion until after the game!" A fact they ignored and said that they didn't buy Walsh's explanation. I guess they liked thier version of the facts! If Tony Dungy told them we didn't use the tape during the game, it would have been excepted as gospel! Belichick misinterpretation is laughable to a degree! However, I think he was aware they were taping the coaches! The Commissioner went on the record stating that stealing signals is part of the game. Not an illegal act by itself! It was the use of the video camera. Why the excuses by Walsh? He knew he shouldn't be taping the coaches, hence the excuses of, "I need this shot of the Kicker!" Walsh was in plain sight a fact that was demonstrated on one of the tapes! Goodell destroying the evidence because the season will still going on and he didn't want the tape to "get out." I can't explain why he felt that was the way to go. Remember he was being critized for the tape being leaked to Fox! Fox employs his wife Jane Skinner, maybe he just wanted the tapes gone! The security of the League's Front Office is questionable to say the least? Kraft is a great owner and is smart enough to leave the football decisions to the staff! He put his full trust in BB! Belichick has delivared with the best record in the NFL since taking over as Head Coach! 3 SB's and the best play-off record in years! Now, everone wants Kraft to walk away from BB and he's not that type of person! He's loyal to his people and the type of owner that every one would like for thier team. Finally, the Patriots! What this team has accomplished in a short period of time is really incredible! The Players on the field won those games! Yes, maybe they got a signal here and there. That doesn't explain this teams sucess! Taping wristband footage is a waste of tape... Cheerleader's? How did that tape help? Doesn't evryone see when a D coach holds up 2 fingers? The point is that, had the teams used wristbands or just changed thier signals, this entire story would be moot! I hope you took notes, there will be a quiz later! Come on September!
What will end this entire mess? The Patriots winning the SuperBowl this year! That’s BB’s goal! When he wins a couple more with Tom and Randy and the rest of the boys! Maybe, just maybe some of the vitriol and hate will subside?
If I asked the question what was BB fined for? Half the posters here wouldn’t know! That’s been the issue with this story, supposition and incorrect information from reporters on TV and the print media! BB was fined for using a video camera to record signals(off. and def.)500K and a 1st round selection. The Patriots were fined 250K.
The “walkthrough Tape,” was an unsubstaciated rumor, written and reported by John Tomase of the Boston Herald. Result, a full page ad apology to the Patriots! The worse thing about it was when it was done! The day before the SuperBowl! Unforgivable!!! Tomase is “Deadman Walking,” around Foxboro. I can’t see him resuming his duties covering the Patriots! Who would trust him?
Matt Walsh, isn’t a hero in all of this. He has forever damaged his reputation over a get even mentality. What was he hoping to gain? Is there a book in his future? We don’t know, only Matt can answer that question. Would a hero of yours booby trap his bed, to keep his room mate from soiling his sheets? Well, Walsh did that and more! He stole several items from his employer and was fired for taping phone converstions of his employers. In his wedding photo’s and made up resume, there’s memorabilia laying everywhere!
Specter has behaived as a bully in the school yard! Abusing his authority on the over-sight committee. He has done everything within his power to userp Goodell’s authority as Commissioner!
Comcast and the NFL are in court as we speak, the NFL wants you to have the Network for free and Comcast doesn’t! We’re talking huge money here! Comcast is one of Specter’s largest campaign contributors and he has interest in holding this situation over Goodell’s head! Do you really think this is about the Eagles or Steeler’s? How about the millions of dollars Comcast would lose if, the NFLN was part ot the basic tier of cable companies?
ESPN has completely jumped the shark! First, Easterbrook! His rambling on articles that talk about space flight and other non-sense football fans don’t care about! Schlereth, Carter and Trey Wingo! Trying to convince anyone who would listen that the Pats broke down the tape at halftime. They went on and on, until Goodell stated that Walsh said “he had the tape in his possesion until after the game!” A fact they ignored and said that they didn’t buy Walsh’s explanation. I guess they liked thier version of the facts! If Tony Dungy told them we didn’t use the tape during the game, it would have been excepted as gospel!
Belichick misinterpretation is laughable to a degree! However, I think he was aware they were taping the coaches! The Commissioner went on the record stating that stealing signals is part of the game. Not an illegal act by itself! It was the use of the video camera. Why the excuses by Walsh? He knew he shouldn’t be taping the coaches, hence the excuses of, “I need this shot of the Kicker!” Walsh was in plain sight a fact that was demonstrated on one of the tapes!
Goodell destroying the evidence because the season will still going on and he didn’t want the tape to “get out.” I can’t explain why he felt that was the way to go. Remember he was being critized for the tape being leaked to Fox! Fox employs his wife Jane Skinner, maybe he just wanted the tapes gone! The security of the League’s Front Office is questionable to say the least?
Kraft is a great owner and is smart enough to leave the football decisions to the staff! He put his full trust in BB! Belichick has delivared with the best record in the NFL since taking over as Head Coach! 3 SB’s and the best play-off record in years! Now, everone wants Kraft to walk away from BB and he’s not that type of person! He’s loyal to his people and the type of owner that every one would like for thier team.
Finally, the Patriots! What this team has accomplished in a short period of time is really incredible! The Players on the field won those games! Yes, maybe they got a signal here and there. That doesn’t explain this teams sucess! Taping wristband footage is a waste of tape… Cheerleader’s? How did that tape help? Doesn’t evryone see when a D coach holds up 2 fingers? The point is that, had the teams used wristbands or just changed thier signals, this entire story would be moot! I hope you took notes, there will be a quiz later!

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]]> By: radneck http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35355 radneck Tue, 27 May 2008 19:05:33 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35355 If a liar sees Belichimp SH__ in the woods, does it still smell? If a liar sees Belichimp SH__ in the woods, does it still smell?

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]]> By: Dave G. http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35354 Dave G. Tue, 27 May 2008 19:02:31 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35354 FreeAgentPro says: May 26th, 2008 at 11:22 pm Once again, Florio is full of cheet. His headline screams that Walsh did not film the Rams during the 2001 season without a shred of proof that it is true. He is once again spreading rumors based upon his opinion and nothing more. Wow, FreeagentIdiot just proved what a complete idiot he is. He complaining that because there was NO PROOF that the Pats did tape the Rams that it's spreading rumors. Doesn't the very fact that there ISN'T proof of wrongdoing by the Pat show that the Patriots were innocent? No, according to this hemorroid, absense of proof indicates their guilt! If this is the way he thinks, we GOTTA be a wuss. FreeAgentPro says:

May 26th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Once again, Florio is full of cheet. His headline screams that Walsh did not film the Rams during the 2001 season without a shred of proof that it is true. He is once again spreading rumors based upon his opinion and nothing more.

Wow, FreeagentIdiot just proved what a complete idiot he is. He complaining that because there was NO PROOF that the Pats did tape the Rams that it’s spreading rumors. Doesn’t the very fact that there ISN’T proof of wrongdoing by the Pat show that the Patriots were innocent? No, according to this hemorroid, absense of proof indicates their guilt! If this is the way he thinks, we GOTTA be a wuss.

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]]> By: Dave G. http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35346 Dave G. Tue, 27 May 2008 18:47:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35346 FreeAgentPro says: May 26th, 2008 at 11:22 pm Once again, Florio is full of cheet. His headline screams that Walsh did not film the Rams during the 2001 season without a shred of proof that it is true. He is once again spreading rumors based upon his opinion and nothing more. Wow, FreeAgent IS full of crap! His main point is "there's NO proff that Walsh DIDN'T tape the Rams walkthru so therefore if there's no proof Florio's spreading rumors". What a complete PUTZ!! There also isn't proof that Walsh DID tape the walkthru, so if there's NO PROOF Freeagentidiot wants everyone to believe the Patriots DID tape the walk thru. So, NO PROOF means the Pats did it? Shouldn't NO PROOF prove they didn't do it? Oh no, there couldn't possibly be the rantings of an Anti-Patriot fan, could they? Stupid hemorroid! FreeAgentPro says:

May 26th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Once again, Florio is full of cheet. His headline screams that Walsh did not film the Rams during the 2001 season without a shred of proof that it is true. He is once again spreading rumors based upon his opinion and nothing more.

Wow, FreeAgent IS full of crap! His main point is “there’s NO proff that Walsh DIDN’T tape the Rams walkthru so therefore if there’s no proof Florio’s spreading rumors”. What a complete PUTZ!! There also isn’t proof that Walsh DID tape the walkthru, so if there’s NO PROOF Freeagentidiot wants everyone to believe the Patriots DID tape the walk thru. So, NO PROOF means the Pats did it? Shouldn’t NO PROOF prove they didn’t do it? Oh no, there couldn’t possibly be the rantings of an Anti-Patriot fan, could they? Stupid hemorroid!

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]]> By: footballnut http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35255 footballnut Tue, 27 May 2008 16:46:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35255 The Jets are just going to get their asses kicked again this year...The Dolphins as well as Joey Porter just couldn't keep his his diarrhea of the mouth under control. The Bills are playing it smart so far... Pats fans/haters alike I think we're all just looking forward to another year of football as baseball just doesn't quite do it. The Jets are just going to get their asses kicked again this year…The Dolphins as well as Joey Porter just couldn’t keep his his diarrhea of the mouth under control.

The Bills are playing it smart so far…

Pats fans/haters alike I think we’re all just looking forward to another year of football as baseball just doesn’t quite do it.

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]]> By: PFTiswhatitis http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35226 PFTiswhatitis Tue, 27 May 2008 15:34:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35226 Didn't Marvin Harrisson shoot some dude? What ever happened with that? Didn’t Marvin Harrisson shoot some dude? What ever happened with that?

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]]> By: mrmagoo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35223 mrmagoo Tue, 27 May 2008 15:26:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35223 'Let’s talk about RELIGION.' Buddha says the Patriots cheated. ‘Let’s talk about RELIGION.’

Buddha says the Patriots cheated.

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]]> By: BeeelllBeelichik http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35221 BeeelllBeelichik Tue, 27 May 2008 15:19:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35221 GOD DAMNNIT Florio! Goodell actually said that he didnt tape them at his press confrence after he spoke with Walsh. Why are you so slow. GOD DAMNNIT Florio! Goodell actually said that he didnt tape them at his press confrence after he spoke with Walsh. Why are you so slow.

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]]> By: FreeAgentPro http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35206 FreeAgentPro Tue, 27 May 2008 14:35:50 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35206 So far, Matt Walsh has not overexposed his 15 minutes of fame. He told the media what he knew, and now has faded back into obscurity. WHile I still suspect that he made a 'deal' with the NFL to stay quiet on the walkthru tape, he said enough to cause the NFL to do a further investigation of the other '50' people that the NFL supposedly interviewed on Spygate. What did Ernie Adams have to say? What did #1 and #2 video assistants have to say? What did Scott Pioli know? This Spygate is far from over until the coverup is completely revealed. So far, Matt Walsh has not overexposed his 15 minutes of fame. He told the media what he knew, and now has faded back into obscurity. WHile I still suspect that he made a ‘deal’ with the NFL to stay quiet on the walkthru tape, he said enough to cause the NFL to do a further investigation of the other ‘50′ people that the NFL supposedly interviewed on Spygate. What did Ernie Adams have to say? What did #1 and #2 video assistants have to say? What did Scott Pioli know? This Spygate is far from over until the coverup is completely revealed.

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]]> By: brian_21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35198 brian_21 Tue, 27 May 2008 14:24:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35198 Kidekk, you would make one hell of a screen writer .. Kidekk, you would make one hell of a screen writer ..

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]]> By: Kidekk http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35186 Kidekk Tue, 27 May 2008 13:57:40 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35186 Detective: "As you can see this was clearly a crime of passion." Officer: "What makes you say that Bob?" Detective: "Well, you see, the amount of superficial wounds indicaters that it was already dead before it underwent most of its beating." Officer: "Hey! Isn't that Eight Belles?" Detective: "Precisely. This horse has been dead for almost four weeks now. Clearly we're dealing with a man who truly hated and, quite frankly, still hates this horse." All kidding aside he's just relaying information that some people find relevant, as you can see from some of the comments. Detective: “As you can see this was clearly a crime of passion.”
Officer: “What makes you say that Bob?”
Detective: “Well, you see, the amount of superficial wounds indicaters that it was already dead before it underwent most of its beating.”
Officer: “Hey! Isn’t that Eight Belles?”
Detective: “Precisely. This horse has been dead for almost four weeks now. Clearly we’re dealing with a man who truly hated and, quite frankly, still hates this horse.”

All kidding aside he’s just relaying information that some people find relevant, as you can see from some of the comments.

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]]> By: monger http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35141 monger Tue, 27 May 2008 12:31:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35141 This story will never be over as long as that piece of filth Belichick is the coach. The man hasn't changed just because he got caught! He's still a cheater and always will be a cheater. This story will never be over as long as that piece of filth Belichick is the coach. The man hasn’t changed just because he got caught! He’s still a cheater and always will be a cheater.

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]]> By: ewcphil http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35139 ewcphil Tue, 27 May 2008 12:26:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35139 Anybody up for some Mike Vick dogfighting articles? Or maybe we could read a day-for-day accounting of the OJ trial. Really gripping articles today on PFT...let it go. Anybody up for some Mike Vick dogfighting articles? Or maybe we could read a day-for-day accounting of the OJ trial. Really gripping articles today on PFT…let it go.

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]]> By: VeggieBurgher http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35133 VeggieBurgher Tue, 27 May 2008 12:09:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35133 Florio, I don't get this article. One, you say "WALSH DIDN’T FILM RAMS DURING 2001 REGULAR SEASON" but that is exactly what he said he did -- filmed the Rams. Two, you make a big deal out of him saying he can't remember the specifics, when all he said was he did not recall the specifics of what he filmed. It's an unreasonable interpretation of that sentence to conclude that Walsh didn't film the defensive signals -- that's what he was consistently filming. He was saying it was his practice to film the defensive signals and so that's what he believes he was doing, but he doesn't remember this game specifically. It's hardly surprising that he doesn't remember this particular not-terribly-noteworthy game. I'm sure you remember some random stuff vividly and other stuff not so much. If Walsh was out to screw the Pats, he would have said yeah I specifically remember taping this game and no one would have been able to prove that he was wrong, so no risk of losing the protection of the indemnity agreement (as if the Pats were going to sue anyway - they just want this to all go away). So your hostility towards Walsh doesn't make much sense, but does jibe with the Pats' effort to smear Walsh. Florio, I don’t get this article.

One, you say “WALSH DIDN’T FILM RAMS DURING 2001 REGULAR SEASON” but that is exactly what he said he did — filmed the Rams.

Two, you make a big deal out of him saying he can’t remember the specifics, when all he said was he did not recall the specifics of what he filmed. It’s an unreasonable interpretation of that sentence to conclude that Walsh didn’t film the defensive signals — that’s what he was consistently filming. He was saying it was his practice to film the defensive signals and so that’s what he believes he was doing, but he doesn’t remember this game specifically. It’s hardly surprising that he doesn’t remember this particular not-terribly-noteworthy game. I’m sure you remember some random stuff vividly and other stuff not so much. If Walsh was out to screw the Pats, he would have said yeah I specifically remember taping this game and no one would have been able to prove that he was wrong, so no risk of losing the protection of the indemnity agreement (as if the Pats were going to sue anyway - they just want this to all go away).

So your hostility towards Walsh doesn’t make much sense, but does jibe with the Pats’ effort to smear Walsh.

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]]> By: 3efin http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35120 3efin Tue, 27 May 2008 11:32:47 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35120 This story is over. It should have died back in October, but Matt Walsh had to get his fifteen minutes of fame first. Please just make it stop, so that we can enjoy talking about football again. This story is over.

It should have died back in October, but Matt Walsh had to get his fifteen minutes of fame first.

Please just make it stop, so that we can enjoy talking about football again.

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]]> By: spanky07 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35115 spanky07 Tue, 27 May 2008 11:20:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35115 Once Goodell has the NFL firmly planted in the Mother Country, the Brits will eat up this SpyGate kind of stuff. They LOVE a bloody good scandal. Once Goodell has the NFL firmly planted in the Mother Country, the Brits will eat up this SpyGate kind of stuff. They LOVE a bloody good scandal.

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]]> By: brian_21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35114 brian_21 Tue, 27 May 2008 11:19:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35114 Disgraceful is the correct word all around. Matt Walsh is disgraceful for not being honest over, over, over, over, and over again and trying to put the New England Patriots in the worst possible light out of bitterness. What a lying weasel. Bill Belichick's lies regarding taping and not knowing he was breaking rules are disgraceful as well. The NFL's handling of spygate initially was disgraceful, as we will never know what was in those original tapes; and the reason said for the destruction of the tapes was purely a lie. Spygate in general, for all parties involved, including the media (John Tomase, and all other media that went along without verification of fact) ... Disgraceful. Disgraceful is the correct word all around. Matt Walsh is disgraceful for not being honest over, over, over, over, and over again and trying to put the New England Patriots in the worst possible light out of bitterness. What a lying weasel.

Bill Belichick’s lies regarding taping and not knowing he was breaking rules are disgraceful as well.

The NFL’s handling of spygate initially was disgraceful, as we will never know what was in those original tapes; and the reason said for the destruction of the tapes was purely a lie.

Spygate in general, for all parties involved, including the media (John Tomase, and all other media that went along without verification of fact) …

Disgraceful.

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]]> By: blackglass3 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35110 blackglass3 Tue, 27 May 2008 11:05:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35110 I thought IR gate was "A much bigger deal" than Cameragate and Liegate. So, why are we back to the camera stuff? I thought IR gate was “A much bigger deal” than Cameragate and Liegate. So, why are we back to the camera stuff?

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]]> By: Pats1 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35109 Pats1 Tue, 27 May 2008 11:02:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35109 Would you like the patch or the gum for your addiction? Would you like the patch or the gum for your addiction?

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]]> By: Casanova http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35108 Casanova Tue, 27 May 2008 11:00:47 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35108 "To these holier than though “Pats are cheaters” folks, please for once explain the following: Favre cheated (when he took a dive for Strahan) but nobody cared. Jimmy Johnson taped signals but nobody cared. Other than the three rings and the arrogance, what’s the difference? It’s not “Pats fans” attacking Walsh; it’s anyone not blindly loyal to the other teams. If stealing signals was illegal, I might feel differently, but crucifying Belichick for 8 months now for using a camera, when his “advantange” could be negated with wristbands and paper is insipid. Belichick’s only guilty of caring more than the other guy about winning. Last I checked, that’s his job, he gets paid millions to do exactly that. And in a world where coaches like Herm are allowed to switch teams, Kraft has a coach obsessed with winning. I applaud Belichick. I’m a lifelong Falcons fan, and I’d kill for Jim Mora Jr. or Bobby Petrino to have been more like Bill Belichick. As for Mike Smith, he’s got Dmitroff to steer him in the right direction, there’s hope at last!" At least one non-Pats fan gets it! “To these holier than though “Pats are cheaters” folks, please for once explain the following: Favre cheated (when he took a dive for Strahan) but nobody cared. Jimmy Johnson taped signals but nobody cared. Other than the three rings and the arrogance, what’s the difference? It’s not “Pats fans” attacking Walsh; it’s anyone not blindly loyal to the other teams. If stealing signals was illegal, I might feel differently, but crucifying Belichick for 8 months now for using a camera, when his “advantange” could be negated with wristbands and paper is insipid.

Belichick’s only guilty of caring more than the other guy about winning. Last I checked, that’s his job, he gets paid millions to do exactly that. And in a world where coaches like Herm are allowed to switch teams, Kraft has a coach obsessed with winning. I applaud Belichick.

I’m a lifelong Falcons fan, and I’d kill for Jim Mora Jr. or Bobby Petrino to have been more like Bill Belichick. As for Mike Smith, he’s got Dmitroff to steer him in the right direction, there’s hope at last!”

At least one non-Pats fan gets it!

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]]> By: gillette236 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35107 gillette236 Tue, 27 May 2008 10:53:28 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35107 OMG....the horse has been dead for two weeks now. Please show some it some respect. OMG….the horse has been dead for two weeks now. Please show some it some respect.

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]]> By: Greg B. http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35104 Greg B. Tue, 27 May 2008 10:32:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35104 "Walsh Didn't Tape Rams"... what kind of a headline is that? Is tomorrow's going to be "Walsh Didn't Tape Bengals" and so on until we get through the entire league? It reminds me of the Monty Python sketch about TV for parrots where there is a news broadcast that reports on a crash on the highway where the reporter leads with the phrase "No parrots were involved in an accident on the M!...". Non-action is not news. “Walsh Didn’t Tape Rams”… what kind of a headline is that? Is tomorrow’s going to be “Walsh Didn’t Tape Bengals” and so on until we get through the entire league? It reminds me of the Monty Python sketch about TV for parrots where there is a news broadcast that reports on a crash on the highway where the reporter leads with the phrase “No parrots were involved in an accident on the M!…”. Non-action is not news.

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]]> By: Shamrock http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35100 Shamrock Tue, 27 May 2008 09:06:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35100 Double your efforts on Spygate. When Belichick is kicked out of the league is when it should be dropped. Double your efforts on Spygate.

When Belichick is kicked out of the league is when it should be dropped.

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]]> By: soflo2345 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35095 soflo2345 Tue, 27 May 2008 07:26:10 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35095 agree 100 percent with what Robo769 said. enoughs enough with this. im not a pats fan at all either. im just an nfl fan whos sick of hearing about a story thats been over for so long. do what you do best and report on scoop and new stories around the league. agree 100 percent with what Robo769 said. enoughs enough with this. im not a pats fan at all either. im just an nfl fan whos sick of hearing about a story thats been over for so long. do what you do best and report on scoop and new stories around the league.

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]]> By: Favre2012 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35092 Favre2012 Tue, 27 May 2008 06:41:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35092 To these holier than though "Pats are cheaters" folks, please for once explain the following: Favre cheated (when he took a dive for Strahan) but nobody cared. Jimmy Johnson taped signals but nobody cared. Other than the three rings and the arrogance, what's the difference? It's not "Pats fans" attacking Walsh; it's anyone not blindly loyal to the other teams. If stealing signals was illegal, I might feel differently, but crucifying Belichick for 8 months now for using a camera, when his "advantange" could be negated with wristbands and paper is insipid. Belichick's only guilty of caring more than the other guy about winning. Last I checked, that's his job, he gets paid millions to do exactly that. And in a world where coaches like Herm are allowed to switch teams, Kraft has a coach obsessed with winning. I applaud Belichick. I'm a lifelong Falcons fan, and I'd kill for Jim Mora Jr. or Bobby Petrino to have been more like Bill Belichick. As for Mike Smith, he's got Dmitroff to steer him in the right direction, there's hope at last! To these holier than though “Pats are cheaters” folks, please for once explain the following: Favre cheated (when he took a dive for Strahan) but nobody cared. Jimmy Johnson taped signals but nobody cared. Other than the three rings and the arrogance, what’s the difference? It’s not “Pats fans” attacking Walsh; it’s anyone not blindly loyal to the other teams. If stealing signals was illegal, I might feel differently, but crucifying Belichick for 8 months now for using a camera, when his “advantange” could be negated with wristbands and paper is insipid.

Belichick’s only guilty of caring more than the other guy about winning. Last I checked, that’s his job, he gets paid millions to do exactly that. And in a world where coaches like Herm are allowed to switch teams, Kraft has a coach obsessed with winning. I applaud Belichick.

I’m a lifelong Falcons fan, and I’d kill for Jim Mora Jr. or Bobby Petrino to have been more like Bill Belichick. As for Mike Smith, he’s got Dmitroff to steer him in the right direction, there’s hope at last!

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]]> By: trixstal http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35089 trixstal Tue, 27 May 2008 05:59:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35089 (crickets chirping) (crickets chirping)

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]]> By: smashmouthd http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35081 smashmouthd Tue, 27 May 2008 04:45:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35081 the correct answer is: The Patriots and Belichick were railroaded... everyone from Jimmy Johnson to Matt Walsh has stated they have knowledge of other teams doing the SAME thing. The Patriots/Belichick are guilty of blowing off Goodell and the Competition Committee's (Polian, Fisher, and others who have a bone to pick with the Patriots) new EMPHASIS which came down in 2006. Thats why Belichick got slammed so hard, his actions went against Goodell's authority and Goodell put it to him for it. From Mangini to Polian, there were plenty of others who enjoyed the chance to stick it to Belichick as well. Any cover up, and any lies, come from Goodell and the NFL office trying to isolate this to the Patriots only, and completely unreliable sources like Walsh. the correct answer is:

The Patriots and Belichick were railroaded… everyone from Jimmy Johnson to Matt Walsh has stated they have knowledge of other teams doing the SAME thing.

The Patriots/Belichick are guilty of blowing off Goodell and the Competition Committee’s (Polian, Fisher, and others who have a bone to pick with the Patriots) new EMPHASIS which came down in 2006.

Thats why Belichick got slammed so hard, his actions went against Goodell’s authority and Goodell put it to him for it. From Mangini to Polian, there were plenty of others who enjoyed the chance to stick it to Belichick as well.

Any cover up, and any lies, come from Goodell and the NFL office trying to isolate this to the Patriots only, and completely unreliable sources like Walsh.

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]]> By: BrianPat http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35078 BrianPat Tue, 27 May 2008 04:25:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35078 No offense Mike, But now, your offically a media hype whore ! I hear your trying to sell this site to ESPN, it's a match made in heaven ! No offense Mike,

But now, your offically a media hype whore ! I hear your trying to sell this site to ESPN, it’s a match made in heaven !

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]]> By: Orangello_Jones http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35075 Orangello_Jones Tue, 27 May 2008 03:59:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35075 7 comments and 5 of them whiners complaining about another Spygate story. Here's a thought, don't friggin read the story and better yet if it's so bothersome and tired then why comment at all? All you Pats fans do by continuing the same whiny crap every time another story is posted is show yourselves to be thin skinned cry babies with no self control. I don't know what's worse, the dead horse being beaten or the one you whiners are beating about beating a dead horse. NEWSFLASH, when you comment and read a story it creates more page views for Florio and Co to prop up for advertisers. In other words the only way this goes away is if folks stop reading and commenting about it. If you continue complaining you actually hurt yourselves because you're creating more traffic for the thread in question. So please for the love of God quit whining about this being newsworthy and still a topic, it's the biggest cheating scandal in the history of the league, it's not going away any time soon. 7 comments and 5 of them whiners complaining about another Spygate story. Here’s a thought, don’t friggin read the story and better yet if it’s so bothersome and tired then why comment at all? All you Pats fans do by continuing the same whiny crap every time another story is posted is show yourselves to be thin skinned cry babies with no self control. I don’t know what’s worse, the dead horse being beaten or the one you whiners are beating about beating a dead horse.

NEWSFLASH, when you comment and read a story it creates more page views for Florio and Co to prop up for advertisers. In other words the only way this goes away is if folks stop reading and commenting about it. If you continue complaining you actually hurt yourselves because you’re creating more traffic for the thread in question.

So please for the love of God quit whining about this being newsworthy and still a topic, it’s the biggest cheating scandal in the history of the league, it’s not going away any time soon.

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]]> By: Great Falconi http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35074 Great Falconi Tue, 27 May 2008 03:43:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35074 It is such a big shock that Matt Walsh would be a liar/deceiver. After all, he worked for a team that has lied and cheated for years. Maybe THAT is the aspect of this story that should be obsessed about. (By the way, has anybody checked to see if Ernie Adams even has a Social Security Number? Does anybody really know anything about this guy? He is Belichick's hatchet man. Sniff around this guy a little and see what you find.) It is such a big shock that Matt Walsh would be a liar/deceiver. After all, he worked for a team that has lied and cheated for years. Maybe THAT is the aspect of this story that should be obsessed about.

(By the way, has anybody checked to see if Ernie Adams even has a Social Security Number? Does anybody really know anything about this guy? He is Belichick’s hatchet man. Sniff around this guy a little and see what you find.)

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]]> By: Superfan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35073 Superfan Tue, 27 May 2008 03:31:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35073 Reset the "Days without a "SpyGate" article.... Reset the “Days without a “SpyGate” article….

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]]> By: FreeAgentPro http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35071 FreeAgentPro Tue, 27 May 2008 03:22:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35071 Once again, Florio is full of cheet. His headline screams that Walsh did not film the Rams during the 2001 season without a shred of proof that it is true. He is once again spreading rumors based upon his opinion and nothing more. Once again, Florio is full of cheet. His headline screams that Walsh did not film the Rams during the 2001 season without a shred of proof that it is true. He is once again spreading rumors based upon his opinion and nothing more.

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]]> By: wingnut http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35070 wingnut Tue, 27 May 2008 03:22:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35070 Let's talk about RELIGION. Let’s talk about RELIGION.

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]]> By: Jmoney7 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35068 Jmoney7 Tue, 27 May 2008 03:16:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35068 I am a patriots fan and I admit the pats cheated. matt walsh is a piece of trash, that's why they hired him! of course he lies, that was his job! of course he wants to make the pats look bad. the pats are getting what they deserve tho for hiring him. which is unfortanate because the cheating they did really had a minimal impact. during their SB runs, all their games were close.. teams change signals all the time and had to be aware of their tactics.. case in point, they hired trash and now its coming back to haunt them. I am a patriots fan and I admit the pats cheated. matt walsh is a piece of trash, that’s why they hired him! of course he lies, that was his job! of course he wants to make the pats look bad. the pats are getting what they deserve tho for hiring him. which is unfortanate because the cheating they did really had a minimal impact. during their SB runs, all their games were close.. teams change signals all the time and had to be aware of their tactics.. case in point, they hired trash and now its coming back to haunt them.

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]]> By: fightingirish http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35064 fightingirish Tue, 27 May 2008 03:05:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35064 If you feel this is being beaten to death, don't blame Mike Florio. Blame ultimately the NFL, which destroyed the tapes and is asking everyone to forget about it. Don't forget to blame the Patriots. If they hadn't sullied their hands in this affair, we'd be talking about something else. This will probably die down once training camp starts, but look for it to be picked up again once the season starts. If you feel this is being beaten to death, don’t blame Mike Florio. Blame ultimately the NFL, which destroyed the tapes and is asking everyone to forget about it. Don’t forget to blame the Patriots. If they hadn’t sullied their hands in this affair, we’d be talking about something else.

This will probably die down once training camp starts, but look for it to be picked up again once the season starts.

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]]> By: Tobias Funke http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35062 Tobias Funke Tue, 27 May 2008 02:47:10 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35062 ahahah look how angry and 'over this' the pats haters are now. i wonder why :-) ahahah

look how angry and ‘over this’ the pats haters are now.

i wonder why :-)

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]]> By: gibsonplyer http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35060 gibsonplyer Tue, 27 May 2008 02:45:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35060 Punishment towards the team and coach is still EXTREMELY weak compared to punishments handed out to players when they also face punishment from law enforcement. All Goodell did was slap the Pats on the wrist. It wasn't a one time incident it was a prolonged series of acts that they knew was wrong and continued to do it. Players get suspended for cheating (with drugs), for off the field incidents. Fine and when these offenses are repeated the punishments increase more than just a singular incident. Well this wasn't just a singular incident and in that light the punishment does not fit the crime. BTW I don't care if other teams cheat or not because as of right now only the Pats have been caught. They did it and they got caught so they deserved to be punished. If other teams do it then they deserved to get punished too but it doesn't mean the Pats should get a lighter punishment. If other teams get caught punish them until then what was handed down by the league is still laughable IMO. I'm so sick of this Pats apologist line "but, but, other teams do it too, and if you don't believe it your naive" (whines like spoiled child) I want the Pats appropriately punished just like I want any other teams that cheat punished. Even if one of the teams I like is caught then I'd be appropriately angry (mainly at those involved on the team for being so stupid and lazy) but I'd support the punishment nevertheless. Why is this treated differently than players that takes steroids to gain an advantage over their opponents? Punishment towards the team and coach is still EXTREMELY weak compared to punishments handed out to players when they also face punishment from law enforcement. All Goodell did was slap the Pats on the wrist. It wasn’t a one time incident it was a prolonged series of acts that they knew was wrong and continued to do it. Players get suspended for cheating (with drugs), for off the field incidents. Fine and when these offenses are repeated the punishments increase more than just a singular incident. Well this wasn’t just a singular incident and in that light the punishment does not fit the crime.

BTW I don’t care if other teams cheat or not because as of right now only the Pats have been caught. They did it and they got caught so they deserved to be punished. If other teams do it then they deserved to get punished too but it doesn’t mean the Pats should get a lighter punishment. If other teams get caught punish them until then what was handed down by the league is still laughable IMO.

I’m so sick of this Pats apologist line “but, but, other teams do it too, and if you don’t believe it your naive” (whines like spoiled child) I want the Pats appropriately punished just like I want any other teams that cheat punished. Even if one of the teams I like is caught then I’d be appropriately angry (mainly at those involved on the team for being so stupid and lazy) but I’d support the punishment nevertheless.

Why is this treated differently than players that takes steroids to gain an advantage over their opponents?

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]]> By: JoeSixPack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35059 JoeSixPack Tue, 27 May 2008 02:40:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35059 It's amazing how few members of the media actually bother reading reports in the media - Walsh also made clear that he witnessed other teams engaging in sideline signal videotaping. Has anyone followed through on that? Of course not. Walsh's word is deemed gold when he accuses the Patriots of something (overlooking the fact that he was fired for actual illegal activity - not just rulebreaking) but when he makes a statement about other teams doing the same thing - it's conveniently ignored. Walsh's attorney Levy also has ties back to Comcast - his former lawfirm has done tons of legal work for them and contributed tens upon tens of thousands of dollars to Comcast backed Congressmen. But the media deems government wrongdoing as by far less important an issue than the state of the National Football League. So the news here isn't so much what Walsh said - its what he said and what the media chooses to ignore. This long awaited "source" we were told was going to set the record straight did set it straight - confirming that he witnessed other teams engaging in the same practice as the Patriots, and yet no one is interested in knowing which teams those were, or why Walsh happens to have a $500 per hour attorney working pro-bono for him. It’s amazing how few members of the media actually bother reading reports in the media - Walsh also made clear that he witnessed other teams engaging in sideline signal videotaping. Has anyone followed through on that? Of course not. Walsh’s word is deemed gold when he accuses the Patriots of something (overlooking the fact that he was fired for actual illegal activity - not just rulebreaking) but when he makes a statement about other teams doing the same thing - it’s conveniently ignored.

Walsh’s attorney Levy also has ties back to Comcast - his former lawfirm has done tons of legal work for them and contributed tens upon tens of thousands of dollars to Comcast backed Congressmen. But the media deems government wrongdoing as by far less important an issue than the state of the National Football League.

So the news here isn’t so much what Walsh said - its what he said and what the media chooses to ignore. This long awaited “source” we were told was going to set the record straight did set it straight - confirming that he witnessed other teams engaging in the same practice as the Patriots, and yet no one is interested in knowing which teams those were, or why Walsh happens to have a $500 per hour attorney working pro-bono for him.

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]]> By: bradysheroes http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35057 bradysheroes Tue, 27 May 2008 02:34:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35057 Wow it must be back to work tom, since spygate is resurfaced another day. Better tell Espn that ... Wow it must be back to work tom, since spygate is resurfaced another day. Better tell Espn that …

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]]> By: Conefusion http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35051 Conefusion Tue, 27 May 2008 02:16:23 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35051 Finally did some research. Finally did some research.

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]]> By: mrmagoo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35050 mrmagoo Tue, 27 May 2008 02:14:21 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35050 Good grief. Pats fans already seem to believe that attacking Walsh it creates a wormhole that goes back in time and makes the cheating not only okay but superior to the other pansies that were too weakminded to do it as well. Thanks for feeding the fantasy. Good grief. Pats fans already seem to believe that attacking Walsh it creates a wormhole that goes back in time and makes the cheating not only okay but superior to the other pansies that were too weakminded to do it as well. Thanks for feeding the fantasy.

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]]> By: Rob0769 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35048 Rob0769 Tue, 27 May 2008 02:07:28 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35048 Mike, Respectfully, enough already with these Spygate speculation pieces. If you have something new in terms of news or articles, post them. Otherwise, this is turning into a shameless ploy to drive traffic like ESPN is doing by getting a player like Joey Porter who is famous for running off at the mouth to comment on Spygate. Neither adds much to the story except to fan the flames. Pats fans will always doubt Matt Walsh credibility and Pats haters will take anything Walsh says negative about Belichick or the Pats as Gospel. Nothing that these columns will do will change people's minds. Mike,

Respectfully, enough already with these Spygate speculation pieces. If you have something new in terms of news or articles, post them. Otherwise, this is turning into a shameless ploy to drive traffic like ESPN is doing by getting a player like Joey Porter who is famous for running off at the mouth to comment on Spygate. Neither adds much to the story except to fan the flames.

Pats fans will always doubt Matt Walsh credibility and Pats haters will take anything Walsh says negative about Belichick or the Pats as Gospel. Nothing that these columns will do will change people’s minds.

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]]> By: south-fl-steel http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35046 south-fl-steel Tue, 27 May 2008 02:05:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35046 the correct answer is: the patriots are a cheating organization. they have cheated, tried to hide the fact that they cheated, got caught multiple time cheating, were punished for cheating, have a cheater for a head coach, and are devising ways to cheat now for the upcoming season. cheaters cheaters cheaters all the way around. oh to be so jealous of this fraud of an organization. now here come all the cheater defenders, if you please. maybe they'll give up soon, but i would imagine the patriots will stop cheating before that happens. . the correct answer is: the patriots are a cheating organization. they have cheated, tried to hide the fact that they cheated, got caught multiple time cheating, were punished for cheating, have a cheater for a head coach, and are devising ways to cheat now for the upcoming season. cheaters cheaters cheaters all the way around. oh to be so jealous of this fraud of an organization. now here come all the cheater defenders, if you please.

maybe they’ll give up soon, but i would imagine the patriots will stop cheating before that happens.
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]]> By: gstewart http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35044 gstewart Tue, 27 May 2008 02:00:40 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35044 Stop the presses! Matt Walsh is a liar! Great friggin' day in the morning, who'd have thunk that? After all, everything he said and his past history have been so credible up to now! Stop the presses! Matt Walsh is a liar! Great friggin’ day in the morning, who’d have thunk that? After all, everything he said and his past history have been so credible up to now!

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]]> By: strobman http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35041 strobman Tue, 27 May 2008 01:48:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35041 Enough spygate stuff, anything new on the Marvin Harrison story? Enough spygate stuff, anything new on the Marvin Harrison story?

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]]> By: Favre2012 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35039 Favre2012 Tue, 27 May 2008 01:45:54 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/26/walsh-didnt-film-rams-during-2001-regular-season/#comment-35039 I've never seen a dead horse beaten this much. I’ve never seen a dead horse beaten this much.

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