Last week, we wrote that someone needs to nail down the question of whether former Pats video employee Matt Walsh taped the defensive coaching signals of the St. Louis Rams during the 2001 regular-season game played between the two teams.
If Walsh did, then there would be a real possibility that the tape was used in an effort to crack the Rams’ code for the teams’ Super Bowl XXXVI rematch.
Buried in a Q&A session between Walsh and the New York Times is the apparent answer to the question. Asked what his duties were during that regular-season game, Walsh said: “Filmed, to the best of my recollection. I can’t specifically say I remember the details of what I filmed.”
So the answer to the key question is “maybe”.
We’re concerned, frankly, by the equivocal nature of Walsh’s response. Faced with an opportunity to remove a fairly large cloud of concern from the Pats’ unexpected achievements in 2001, Walsh pulled out the “I don’t remember” card, even though his memory on other topics is as clear and thorough as Rain Man’s knowledge of the phone book from A through half of G.
How could Walsh not remember whether the team’s then-fledging taping experiment would return the ultimate payoff by giving the Pats video evidence of the Rams’ defensive coaching signals as the two teams prepared to meet in the Super Bowl?
Surely, Walsh didn’t tape the Rams’ defensive coaching signals during that regular season game. Otherwise, he would have said that he did. His failure to say that he didn’t in unmistakable terms is, in our view, disgraceful.
Our guess is that Walsh knew that he’d be running afoul of the terms of his indemnity agreement with the NFL if he said he taped the 2001 regular-season game with the Rams, and so he opted to allow the doubt to continue to hover on this specific question. And Greg Bishop of the New York Times, whose puff pieces on folks like Walsh lawyer Michael Levy, former Patriots quarterback Drew Bledsoe, and former NFL exec Charley Casserly possibly were rewarded with scoops such as the submission of tapes from Matt Walsh to the NFL, an off-the-record statement from a former Pats player (Bledsoe?) regarding the cheating scandal, an unnamed quotes from a longtime NFL exec with knowledge of competition committee meetings (Casserly?) regarding the supposed focus of cheating complaints on the Pats, failed in his duty to play both sides of the story evenly by not pressing Walsh as to the ludicrous nature of his supposed failure of recollection.
So even though Walsh stopped short of claiming that the Pats engaged in more widespread cheating than previously reported, we believe that part of his plan was to cause as much trouble for the team as he possibly could, while at the same time protecting himself against any claim that he was intentionally lying.
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May 26th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Oh my god, are you serious? no one cares about this anymore. dont make me go back to espn for my football news. seriously. i dont want to.
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May 26th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
I’ve never seen a dead horse beaten this much.
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May 26th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Enough spygate stuff, anything new on the Marvin Harrison story?
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May 26th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Stop the presses! Matt Walsh is a liar! Great friggin’ day in the morning, who’d have thunk that? After all, everything he said and his past history have been so credible up to now!
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May 26th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
the correct answer is: the patriots are a cheating organization. they have cheated, tried to hide the fact that they cheated, got caught multiple time cheating, were punished for cheating, have a cheater for a head coach, and are devising ways to cheat now for the upcoming season. cheaters cheaters cheaters all the way around. oh to be so jealous of this fraud of an organization. now here come all the cheater defenders, if you please.
maybe they’ll give up soon, but i would imagine the patriots will stop cheating before that happens.
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May 26th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Mike,
Respectfully, enough already with these Spygate speculation pieces. If you have something new in terms of news or articles, post them. Otherwise, this is turning into a shameless ploy to drive traffic like ESPN is doing by getting a player like Joey Porter who is famous for running off at the mouth to comment on Spygate. Neither adds much to the story except to fan the flames.
Pats fans will always doubt Matt Walsh credibility and Pats haters will take anything Walsh says negative about Belichick or the Pats as Gospel. Nothing that these columns will do will change people’s minds.
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May 26th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Good grief. Pats fans already seem to believe that attacking Walsh it creates a wormhole that goes back in time and makes the cheating not only okay but superior to the other pansies that were too weakminded to do it as well. Thanks for feeding the fantasy.
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May 26th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Finally did some research.
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May 26th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Wow it must be back to work tom, since spygate is resurfaced another day. Better tell Espn that …
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May 26th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
It’s amazing how few members of the media actually bother reading reports in the media - Walsh also made clear that he witnessed other teams engaging in sideline signal videotaping. Has anyone followed through on that? Of course not. Walsh’s word is deemed gold when he accuses the Patriots of something (overlooking the fact that he was fired for actual illegal activity - not just rulebreaking) but when he makes a statement about other teams doing the same thing - it’s conveniently ignored.
Walsh’s attorney Levy also has ties back to Comcast - his former lawfirm has done tons of legal work for them and contributed tens upon tens of thousands of dollars to Comcast backed Congressmen. But the media deems government wrongdoing as by far less important an issue than the state of the National Football League.
So the news here isn’t so much what Walsh said - its what he said and what the media chooses to ignore. This long awaited “source” we were told was going to set the record straight did set it straight - confirming that he witnessed other teams engaging in the same practice as the Patriots, and yet no one is interested in knowing which teams those were, or why Walsh happens to have a $500 per hour attorney working pro-bono for him.
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May 26th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Punishment towards the team and coach is still EXTREMELY weak compared to punishments handed out to players when they also face punishment from law enforcement. All Goodell did was slap the Pats on the wrist. It wasn’t a one time incident it was a prolonged series of acts that they knew was wrong and continued to do it. Players get suspended for cheating (with drugs), for off the field incidents. Fine and when these offenses are repeated the punishments increase more than just a singular incident. Well this wasn’t just a singular incident and in that light the punishment does not fit the crime.
BTW I don’t care if other teams cheat or not because as of right now only the Pats have been caught. They did it and they got caught so they deserved to be punished. If other teams do it then they deserved to get punished too but it doesn’t mean the Pats should get a lighter punishment. If other teams get caught punish them until then what was handed down by the league is still laughable IMO.
I’m so sick of this Pats apologist line “but, but, other teams do it too, and if you don’t believe it your naive” (whines like spoiled child) I want the Pats appropriately punished just like I want any other teams that cheat punished. Even if one of the teams I like is caught then I’d be appropriately angry (mainly at those involved on the team for being so stupid and lazy) but I’d support the punishment nevertheless.
Why is this treated differently than players that takes steroids to gain an advantage over their opponents?
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May 26th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
ahahah
look how angry and ‘over this’ the pats haters are now.
i wonder why
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May 26th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
If you feel this is being beaten to death, don’t blame Mike Florio. Blame ultimately the NFL, which destroyed the tapes and is asking everyone to forget about it. Don’t forget to blame the Patriots. If they hadn’t sullied their hands in this affair, we’d be talking about something else.
This will probably die down once training camp starts, but look for it to be picked up again once the season starts.
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May 26th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
I am a patriots fan and I admit the pats cheated. matt walsh is a piece of trash, that’s why they hired him! of course he lies, that was his job! of course he wants to make the pats look bad. the pats are getting what they deserve tho for hiring him. which is unfortanate because the cheating they did really had a minimal impact. during their SB runs, all their games were close.. teams change signals all the time and had to be aware of their tactics.. case in point, they hired trash and now its coming back to haunt them.
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May 26th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Let’s talk about RELIGION.
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May 26th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Once again, Florio is full of cheet. His headline screams that Walsh did not film the Rams during the 2001 season without a shred of proof that it is true. He is once again spreading rumors based upon his opinion and nothing more.
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May 26th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Reset the “Days without a “SpyGate” article….
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May 26th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
It is such a big shock that Matt Walsh would be a liar/deceiver. After all, he worked for a team that has lied and cheated for years. Maybe THAT is the aspect of this story that should be obsessed about.
(By the way, has anybody checked to see if Ernie Adams even has a Social Security Number? Does anybody really know anything about this guy? He is Belichick’s hatchet man. Sniff around this guy a little and see what you find.)
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May 26th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
7 comments and 5 of them whiners complaining about another Spygate story. Here’s a thought, don’t friggin read the story and better yet if it’s so bothersome and tired then why comment at all? All you Pats fans do by continuing the same whiny crap every time another story is posted is show yourselves to be thin skinned cry babies with no self control. I don’t know what’s worse, the dead horse being beaten or the one you whiners are beating about beating a dead horse.
NEWSFLASH, when you comment and read a story it creates more page views for Florio and Co to prop up for advertisers. In other words the only way this goes away is if folks stop reading and commenting about it. If you continue complaining you actually hurt yourselves because you’re creating more traffic for the thread in question.
So please for the love of God quit whining about this being newsworthy and still a topic, it’s the biggest cheating scandal in the history of the league, it’s not going away any time soon.
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May 27th, 2008 at 12:25 am
No offense Mike,
But now, your offically a media hype whore ! I hear your trying to sell this site to ESPN, it’s a match made in heaven !
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May 27th, 2008 at 12:45 am
the correct answer is:
The Patriots and Belichick were railroaded… everyone from Jimmy Johnson to Matt Walsh has stated they have knowledge of other teams doing the SAME thing.
The Patriots/Belichick are guilty of blowing off Goodell and the Competition Committee’s (Polian, Fisher, and others who have a bone to pick with the Patriots) new EMPHASIS which came down in 2006.
Thats why Belichick got slammed so hard, his actions went against Goodell’s authority and Goodell put it to him for it. From Mangini to Polian, there were plenty of others who enjoyed the chance to stick it to Belichick as well.
Any cover up, and any lies, come from Goodell and the NFL office trying to isolate this to the Patriots only, and completely unreliable sources like Walsh.
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May 27th, 2008 at 1:59 am
(crickets chirping)
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May 27th, 2008 at 2:41 am
To these holier than though “Pats are cheaters” folks, please for once explain the following: Favre cheated (when he took a dive for Strahan) but nobody cared. Jimmy Johnson taped signals but nobody cared. Other than the three rings and the arrogance, what’s the difference? It’s not “Pats fans” attacking Walsh; it’s anyone not blindly loyal to the other teams. If stealing signals was illegal, I might feel differently, but crucifying Belichick for 8 months now for using a camera, when his “advantange” could be negated with wristbands and paper is insipid.
Belichick’s only guilty of caring more than the other guy about winning. Last I checked, that’s his job, he gets paid millions to do exactly that. And in a world where coaches like Herm are allowed to switch teams, Kraft has a coach obsessed with winning. I applaud Belichick.
I’m a lifelong Falcons fan, and I’d kill for Jim Mora Jr. or Bobby Petrino to have been more like Bill Belichick. As for Mike Smith, he’s got Dmitroff to steer him in the right direction, there’s hope at last!
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May 27th, 2008 at 3:26 am
agree 100 percent with what Robo769 said. enoughs enough with this. im not a pats fan at all either. im just an nfl fan whos sick of hearing about a story thats been over for so long. do what you do best and report on scoop and new stories around the league.
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May 27th, 2008 at 5:06 am
Double your efforts on Spygate.
When Belichick is kicked out of the league is when it should be dropped.
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