In his first comments regarding the release of linebacker Odell Thurman apart from a prepared statement that likely was prepared by someone else), Bengals coach Marvin Lewis didn’t do much to clean up the P.R. mess created by the alleged decision to dump Thurman because he missed voluntary workouts following the death of his grandmother.
“His grandmother’s been buried for quite a while,” Lewis said. “Don’t get into his whole family structure. He has not played football in two years. And we have people who will be better for our football team.”
Ouch.
“We’ve been patient enough with Odell, and he’s no longer here. No big deal.”
Double ouch.
Not everyone in the building was dumping on Thurman, the team’s second-round pick in the 2005 draft.
“Odell was a well-liked guy on the team, had possibly more talent than anybody we’ve seen come through here,” said quarterback Carson Palmer. “So it’s tough to lose an athlete like that, a guy like that, and a draft pick.
“I mean, you only get so many second-round draft picks and when you only get one year out of them, it affects your team tremendously. It’s just tough to lose the player that he was, and you really can’t replace him.”
Actually, the Bengals have now lost their first-round pick (linebacker David Pollack), second-round pick, and third-round pick (receiver Chris Henry) from the 2005 draft. Previously Pollack recently retired due to a neck injury and Henry was cut after his fifth arrest since entering the league.
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May 21st, 2008 at 7:03 pm
hahaha WHO DEY???
/someone got paid a lot of money for those bad personnel decisions.
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May 21st, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Yep, they made some mistakes in 2005, but I don’t think they will ever invest high draft picks in troubled players anymore. Rivers, Simpson, Caldwell, and Sims (Rounds 1 - 4) are solid. They got 2 players this year with some issues: Shirley in the 5th round and signed Purify as an undrafted FA. So they are not depending on them to succeed, and if they screw up, they are out.
I also think Mike Brown had more to do with that 05 draft that Lewis.
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May 21st, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Congrats Mr. Touchdown. I understand that after your recent visit to Massachusetts there’s now a “Mrs.” Touchdown.
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May 21st, 2008 at 7:19 pm
I’ve been meaning to address everyone who says the Bengals are imploding. Actually what they are doing is exactly what Marvin said they would do at the end of last season. They are”blowing it all up and starting over”. If you want to call that imploding, fine, but it’s on purpose. They are getting rid of the guys who are not team players, and I support that. Odell and Henry are gone, and Chad either shuts up and plays or stays home and gets fined. I love it.
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May 21st, 2008 at 7:19 pm
I guess there is no love loss there.. This should be an interesting year for Marvin Lewis.. If he can’t whip his players into shape I think the management is going to give him the same kind of “farewell”
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May 21st, 2008 at 7:21 pm
“His grandmother’s been buried for quite a while,” Lewis said. “Don’t get into his whole family structure.”
That’s sensitive.
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May 21st, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Al Davis is getting the checkbook ready.
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May 21st, 2008 at 7:34 pm
While we’re talkin’ about Lewis mood enhancers tantamount to a turd in your Cheerios;
“(Jason)Shirley had a court date in Fresno, Calif. to face charges from last Oct. 8 that include DUI, driving with a blood-alcohol content of 0.08 percent or higher, and hit and run.”
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May 21st, 2008 at 7:49 pm
@ 33243324
WHO DEY????
;0
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May 21st, 2008 at 7:51 pm
I think you’re seeing why Lewis will ultimately fail as an NFL head coach. His emotions has this guy wound way too tight. Maybe instead of Gene Upshaw, marvin lewis should be saying “Serenity now,” to control his emotional outbursts.
I understand why he threw thurman under the bus because along with henry and other crazies on that team, they’ve put him ina precarious position, but you can’t say “his grandmother’s been buried for a while now.” I recall the emotional slant was a lot of why he was passed over back earlier this decade for the Buffalo job among others. he’s just proving all those people that passed on him right.
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May 21st, 2008 at 8:08 pm
So are The Bengals officially The Bungles again? Getting to that point I think.
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May 21st, 2008 at 8:18 pm
The Bengals can never seem to get it right.
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May 21st, 2008 at 8:20 pm
I hate being a Bengals fan. Can someone kill me please.
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May 21st, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Mr. Touchdown,
Yeah, and that person would be Mike F’in Brown. He continues to add to his fat wallet despite his incompetence. I’m like Arnold in the Predator. Kill me now! Do it! Kill me I’m here! Get to the choppa! Kill me now!
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May 21st, 2008 at 8:39 pm
This team is full of jackasses, from the G.M. down. I can’t wait to see how bad they are this year.
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May 21st, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Good thing the Ravens don’t pay this type of forum any mind. We would be minus a whole bunch of Defensive personnell.
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May 21st, 2008 at 9:18 pm
thats a pretty cold thing to say about his grandmother being buried for quite some time. Marvin Lewis, if this man considers that a respectful thing to say about another man, then he deserves all the failure his team experiences. Thats a cowardly thing to say when the man youre talking about isnt around to defend himself, regardless of how much Thurman did to poison his own roster spot. I have zero respect remaining for Marvin Lewis. I would not want someone who speaks that way of others misfortunes in my squad.
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May 21st, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Wow snail you are so knowledgeable about the Bengals! You have provided tremendous upside.
Tell me, please, the name of the horrendous Bengals G.M.
I forget what his name is!
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May 21st, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Dear Dan Rooney:
Thakn you, thank you, thank you from the bottom of my little black and gold heart for Mike Tomlin.
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May 21st, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Whether or not it was a good decision to let Odell go, I know that, if I were Odell, I’d make one more trip back up to Cincy and punch Marvin in his smug, inept coaching mouth. And I’m a Bengals fan…
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May 21st, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Let me get this straight…
Thurman who wants to play for the Bengals and seemingly liked by his teammates is released for spending too much time with family following his grandmother’s funeral. Johnson who doesn’t want to play for the Bengals they keep.
Yea makes perfect sense!
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May 21st, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Marvin Lewis is the nicest guy on the planet, too nice sometimes in the past (Chad, need I say more) I do not know why he said “his grandmother has been buried for quite a while,” since the funeral was last week. I am wondering if he was misquoted. Marvin is very involved in the community and I doubt he would ever purposely disparage anyone’s grandmother. I heard that, although Odell has been allowed to work out with the team since January, he hasn’t been there. That was four months ago. If that is true, then he just wasn’t showing Marvin any reason to keep him. I also think there’ s a lot more to this story that we don’t know.
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May 21st, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Marvin is a turd. Once he starts consistently winning he can start acting like a jerk. Right now, he’s just a loser acting like a jerk. The Bengals should have held on to Thurman through at least training camp in case injuries pop up. Just more stupidity from Mike Brown and crew, the worst front office in the NFL.
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May 22nd, 2008 at 2:17 am
it would have been better if Marv kept his mouth shut but when you read the whole piece it kind of puts the statements in context–at least a bit better than this Bengal-hating website
Lewis refuted reports that he told one of Odell Thurman’s representatives that Thurman’s offseason absences from Paul Brown Stadium led to Monday’s release. Safarrah Lawson has indicated that he believes the Bengals cut him because he didn’t return to voluntary workouts after his grandmother’s May 12 funeral.
“His grandmother has been buried quite awhile,” Lewis said. “Don’t get into his whole family structure (as) an issue. We’ve been patient enough with Odell. He’s no longer here.”
Lawson responded with, “My only comment is that Betty Thurman was buried May 12th at 1 p.m. (Camp) started May 13th and he was released May 19th. I stand by what I was told.”
But the Bengals’ issue appears to be Thurman’s overall attendance from the time NFL commissioner Roger Goodell allowed him to return to the facility in late January.
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May 22nd, 2008 at 2:37 am
@bondem777:
I agree that there’s a lot more going on behind the scenes than any of us know.
But don’t think that FUNERAL always means BURIAL. Often there is a burial/memoriam service days after a person passes away, while the formal funeral is considerably later.
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