An interesting point came up during our appearance earlier this morning with Boomer Esiason and Craig Carton on WFAN, even though it was yours truly who forced it into the discussion.
What does the owners’ unanimous decision to bail on the CBA mean to former Commissioner Paul Tagliabue’s shot at the Hall of Fame?
In our view, Tagliabue’s bid for enshrinement has, at best, been delayed indefinitely. After all, it was Tagliabue who foisted onto the owners a proposal that, less than 27 months later, they have all rejected.
Part of the problem is that the league’s obsession with the financial aspects of the 2006 CBA extension caused the powers-that-be to accept without negotiation the union’s one-sided proposals relating to noneconomic issues like the recoupment of bonus money and the ability to send a problematic player home with pay. Ultimately, it was Tagliabue’s responsibility to notice that the owners were agreeing to all of the noneconomic terms without any counterproposal.
On the surface, some might be inclined to applaud Tagliabue and point a finger at current Commissioner Roger Goodell, if Tuesday’s vote results in three seasons of uncertainty and culminates in a work stoppage. After all, Tagliabue didn’t have a single work stoppage during his entire time on the job.
But the fact that the strife would occur on Goodell’s watch doesn’t mean that it’s his fault. The seeds for this potential beanstalk were planted by the union during Tagliabue’s tenure.
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May 21st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
“Where are Ralph Wilson and Mike Brown’s apologies???”
They’re not coming, since those bumpkins voted against the CBA only because of the revenue sharing aspect. The rest of the NFL will *never* give those guys what they want regarding shared revenue. They’re trying to get into the “pot luck dinner” while bringing nothing but their appetites and a huuuuuge sense of entitlement.
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May 21st, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Vox Veritas,
This thread is about Tagliabue and you are trying to highjack it to constantly beat on the Patriots. There is no need to feed your obvious obsession with the Patriots anymore. Bob Kraft is still one of the most respected owners in the league (as shown by his stand obvation at the owners meetings last month). Whatever people around the league thinks of Belichick doesn’t transfer to Kraft. No one with any objectivity believes Kraft micromanages the Patriots organization to know what the third camera guy is doing during the game.
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May 21st, 2008 at 6:07 pm
BTW, I never said the lawsuit against Jones had merit. I said the reason he got sued was because he did a stadium sponsorship deal with a direct competitor of one of the league’s biggest sponsors. No one had done that at that point. That is why Kraft and Huizenga didn’t get sued. They had their own stadium sponsorship deals with league approved sponsors. Right or wrong, the league only cared about sponors that were in direct conflict with their own sponsors.
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May 22nd, 2008 at 3:38 am
“Here’s another fact. Jones is considered a brilliant marketing mind and is viewed as a great partner by the vast majority of owners. Do you think that Kraft enjoys that same rep in light of the Spygate scandal?”
You must be an idiot since you clearly don’t know (or don’t want to know) how much power Robert Kraft actually wields inside the NFL.
You are also an idiot since the Kraft family and the Jones family have a good working relationship. The families are also very close outsided of football and Bob Kraft consults with Jerry Jones quite frequently.
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May 22nd, 2008 at 12:33 pm
“This thread is about Tagliabue and you are trying to highjack it to constantly beat on the Patriots.”
My comments were re: Tagliabue’s lopsided treatment of the Patriots and Cowboys, with a sidenote about Kraft. Don’t like it? Move on, chump.
“Bob Kraft is still one of the most respected owners in the league (as shown by his stand obvation at the owners meetings last month).”
Yeah. Gene Upshaw gets a lot of public displays of affection from the owners, too.
“Whatever people around the league thinks of Belichick doesn’t transfer to Kraft.”
Don’t bet on it. It’s in every owner’s best interest to support Kraft publicly. Doing otherwise impugns the integrity of the league. It has to be “no big deal” or the NFL risks a rep of being considered closer to pro rasslin’ than an actual competive sport and all of the financial negatives associated with that.
“No one with any objectivity believes Kraft micromanages the Patriots organization to know what the third camera guy is doing during the game.”
I guess he ALSO didn’t know that Belichick was lying when he said that he “misinterpreted the rules” before he gave him that top secret contract extension that essentially makes up for the fine that Belichick got from the league offices (wink wink).
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May 22nd, 2008 at 12:43 pm
“BTW, I never said the lawsuit against Jones had merit. I said the reason he got sued was because he did a stadium sponsorship deal with a direct competitor of one of the league’s biggest sponsors. No one had done that at that point.”
Except for Robert Kraft. Why is Pepsi a “direct competitor of one of the league sponsors” when Jones got a deal with them, but not when Kraft got a deal with them that predated Jones’ deal? Forget the “team sponsor/stadium sponsor” issue that renders the lawsuit frivolous, they both had stadium sponsorship deals with Pepsi! After researching the issue a bit, I also found out that the 49ers also had an existing stadium sponsorship with PowerAde, which was a direct competitor of Gatorade, which was also one of the league’s biggest sponsors. Gosh man, that stuff made the lawsuit beyond just frivolous. It was borderline insane to even pay the fees to file the paperwork in the first place. How could all of these smart rich guys and their armies of lawyers get so stupid all at the same time? I’d almost swear that this all was a calculated plan on Jones’ part, it worked out so perfectly for him. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe Tagliabue wasn’t biased… but if it wasn’t a bias thing, it had to be a mass stupidity thing.
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May 22nd, 2008 at 1:03 pm
“You are also an idiot since the Kraft family and the Jones family have a good working relationship. The families are also very close outsided of football and Bob Kraft consults with Jerry Jones quite frequently.”
DUH, they’re business partners and it’s bad for any business if the partners don’t have a good working relationship and don’t support each other. Why is this so hard for some people to get? Guys like Kraft and Jones are smart enough to know that if you have to give a little to your partners sometime, you’ll get a little some other time. There’s too much money at stake to play hardball all the time and you’ve got to be able to get up in the morning and forget all about what that jackass across the table said at the owner’s meeting yesterday. But this Spygate thing… that’s nothing but cheating your partners. Don’t be surprised of some owners hold a little private resentment over it, but continue to show public support for the “greater good” of keeping profits maximized. I think Jerry Jones suffered from a bit of that after he did his sponsorship deals until everybody else started doing it and making buttloads of money off of it.
And before anybody jumps on me for ragging on the Patriots, don’t forget that I have cleared the air as to who actually started the stadium sponsorship thing, and there should be no doubt in anybody’s mind that the owners absolutely love them now. That was a great bit of foresight on Kraft’s part. I think most people thought that was Jerry Jones’ idea, but it wasn’t. He just sort of went crazy with the idea. There was even an “official brick of Texas Stadium” (Acme Brick, by the way) at one point. I always thought the official brick of Texas Stadium was any Quincy Carter pass. HAW!
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