Comments on: OWNERS VOTE 32-0 TO OPT OUT OF CBA http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:40:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32803 Vox Veritas Tue, 20 May 2008 23:42:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32803 "Watch this Toronto agreement make the Bills more profitable and secure their future in WNY." Real cool. They move without having to move! “Watch this Toronto agreement make the Bills more profitable and secure their future in WNY.”

Real cool. They move without having to move!

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]]> By: Mike G http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32792 Mike G Tue, 20 May 2008 23:22:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32792 The best part of this whole thing, is that Godell urged a delay. Godell works for the owners. And the commish wanted them to wait. 32-0, the owners told Roger to shut up. There's a story in here somewhere. The best part of this whole thing, is that Godell urged a delay. Godell works for the owners. And the commish wanted them to wait. 32-0, the owners told Roger to shut up.

There’s a story in here somewhere.

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]]> By: Burritto http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32607 Burritto Tue, 20 May 2008 18:03:49 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32607 Meh. I'm not going to pretend that I fully understand al of the intricacies that go into a CBA like this, but there is one thing that I just can't wrap my mind around. Why would the league agree to the current CBA in the first place? I mean, they got to keep the salary cap and agreed upon what the cap numbers were going to be... then opted out of the deal because the players are cutting into the teams' profits too deeply. WTF? If paying 60% of your assets to your workforce is too much, why in the hell would you agree to the deal in the first place? No wonder that players holding out for new contracts (while still under contract) is tolerated throughout the league. Apparently the deals the NFL and the NFLPA aren't really worth a thing to either side. Meh.

I’m not going to pretend that I fully understand al of the intricacies that go into a CBA like this, but there is one thing that I just can’t wrap my mind around.

Why would the league agree to the current CBA in the first place? I mean, they got to keep the salary cap and agreed upon what the cap numbers were going to be… then opted out of the deal because the players are cutting into the teams’ profits too deeply.

WTF? If paying 60% of your assets to your workforce is too much, why in the hell would you agree to the deal in the first place? No wonder that players holding out for new contracts (while still under contract) is tolerated throughout the league. Apparently the deals the NFL and the NFLPA aren’t really worth a thing to either side.

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]]> By: ACDC84 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32572 ACDC84 Tue, 20 May 2008 17:19:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32572 This is probably a really obvious question, but who negotiates for the owners w/ Gene Upshaw? Is there a committee of owners in charge or do they all collectively vote on any deal before it is offered to the union? This is probably a really obvious question, but who negotiates for the owners w/ Gene Upshaw? Is there a committee of owners in charge or do they all collectively vote on any deal before it is offered to the union?

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]]> By: Croissants http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32550 Croissants Tue, 20 May 2008 16:53:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32550 A-holes like Colin Cowherd owe Ralph Wilson a huge apology. Ralph is pretty sharp. Watch this Toronto agreement make the Bills more profitable and secure their future in WNY. A-holes like Colin Cowherd owe Ralph Wilson a huge apology. Ralph is pretty sharp. Watch this Toronto agreement make the Bills more profitable and secure their future in WNY.

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]]> By: trikee http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32529 trikee Tue, 20 May 2008 16:13:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32529 AND THE PATS FANS REJOICE!!!! NO SPYGATE!!! AND THE PATS FANS REJOICE!!!! NO SPYGATE!!!

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]]> By: billsfantx http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32517 billsfantx Tue, 20 May 2008 15:51:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32517 Why hasn't anyone reported that "Senile" Ralph Wilson, owner of the Bills was one of the two who voted against this? He got roasted in the media for being against the original agreement. Typical media BS. Why hasn’t anyone reported that “Senile” Ralph Wilson, owner of the Bills was one of the two who voted against this? He got roasted in the media for being against the original agreement.

Typical media BS.

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]]> By: diehardbearsfan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32460 diehardbearsfan Tue, 20 May 2008 14:38:28 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32460 Unanimous? damn, i'm not the only one that thinks Upshaw is a douchebag. Unanimous? damn, i’m not the only one that thinks Upshaw is a douchebag.

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]]> By: filbertkiwi71 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32455 filbertkiwi71 Tue, 20 May 2008 14:33:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32455 Does this mean that you will have to diversify and start covering other sports, if the NFL goes on hiatus for a while? If there is a works stoppage, IMO it will be a very long one. Does this mean that you will have to diversify and start covering other sports, if the NFL goes on hiatus for a while?

If there is a works stoppage, IMO it will be a very long one.

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]]> By: cowboysdw28mb3 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32447 cowboysdw28mb3 Tue, 20 May 2008 14:20:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32447 Ouch. Whoa, the last sentence about the worst case scenario, so does that mean that if it comes down to a lockout or agreeing on a new deal, does that mean that they'll just keep the current deal so there won't be a strike if they can't work out a new deal? Ouch. Whoa, the last sentence about the worst case scenario, so does that mean that if it comes down to a lockout or agreeing on a new deal, does that mean that they’ll just keep the current deal so there won’t be a strike if they can’t work out a new deal?

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]]> By: andfitch82 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32446 andfitch82 Tue, 20 May 2008 14:19:40 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32446 WOW. 32-0. Hopefully they work out a new deal. Haha. I didn't expect it to be this overwhelming in terms of 'Yes' votes. WOW. 32-0. Hopefully they work out a new deal. Haha. I didn’t expect it to be this overwhelming in terms of ‘Yes’ votes.

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]]> By: unga http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32443 unga Tue, 20 May 2008 14:17:51 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32443 No big shocker there. No big shocker there.

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]]> By: Dan1919 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32441 Dan1919 Tue, 20 May 2008 14:15:47 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32441 The players are getting too much. They need to give back. But Unions never do that until its forced upon them (See NHL). Hopefully this puts an end to Goodell and Upshaw. They both need to go. The players are getting too much. They need to give back. But Unions never do that until its forced upon them (See NHL).

Hopefully this puts an end to Goodell and Upshaw. They both need to go.

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]]> By: ken13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32438 ken13 Tue, 20 May 2008 14:13:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/20/owners-vote-32-0-to-opt-out-of-cba/#comment-32438 This is Bill Belichick's fault.....no doubt!! This is Bill Belichick’s fault…..no doubt!!

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