Comments on: BENGALS DON’T DENY ALLEGATIONS REGARDING THURMAN http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:29:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: yankeemofo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32333 yankeemofo Tue, 20 May 2008 05:40:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32333 “You skipped out on your obligations and millions for what? It’s your GRANDMOTHER, DUDE!!! Even the FMLA doesn’t give us working schmucks time off for dead grandparents!!!” You mean the same grandmother that raised him after his mother died in 1993? Yeah DUDE, what the hell? It’s only THAT GRANDMOTHER! DUDE! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- She's still not considered immediate family. That's what it boils down to for me, as harsh as it may sound! “You skipped out on your obligations and millions for what? It’s your GRANDMOTHER, DUDE!!! Even the FMLA doesn’t give us working schmucks time off for dead grandparents!!!”

You mean the same grandmother that raised him after his mother died in 1993? Yeah DUDE, what the hell? It’s only THAT GRANDMOTHER!

DUDE!
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She’s still not considered immediate family. That’s what it boils down to for me, as harsh as it may sound!

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]]> By: brianbaker6 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32325 brianbaker6 Tue, 20 May 2008 04:46:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32325 "jgrange says: May 19th, 2008 at 1:45 pm Drinking is not a crime. Maybe he called a cab the time you saw him out drinking." Actually, for Odell, drinking IS a crime. Part of his plea deal for his DUI was to not consume alcohol or do drugs for a year. So he's obviously breaking his plea agreement. I agree with the some of the other posters. This stinks of something going on behind the scene. Was the timing bad, sure. But so was him showing up out of shape, not being in the building since his reinstatment (which Lawson confirmed on radio), and then not coming back to Cincinnati on last Tuesday (the day after his grandmother's funeral) OR ANY DAY SINCE THEN! I understand grieving and maybe one day wasn't enough, but it's been a week since the funeral and he still hadn't come back. I think that's a little extravagant... “jgrange says:

May 19th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Drinking is not a crime. Maybe he called a cab the time you saw him out drinking.”

Actually, for Odell, drinking IS a crime. Part of his plea deal for his DUI was to not consume alcohol or do drugs for a year. So he’s obviously breaking his plea agreement.

I agree with the some of the other posters. This stinks of something going on behind the scene. Was the timing bad, sure. But so was him showing up out of shape, not being in the building since his reinstatment (which Lawson confirmed on radio), and then not coming back to Cincinnati on last Tuesday (the day after his grandmother’s funeral) OR ANY DAY SINCE THEN! I understand grieving and maybe one day wasn’t enough, but it’s been a week since the funeral and he still hadn’t come back. I think that’s a little extravagant…

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]]> By: bondem777 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32311 bondem777 Tue, 20 May 2008 03:35:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32311 jgrange: Thurman is not allowed to drink. He is an alcoholic and he's in the substance abuse program. It would be a violation. jgrange: Thurman is not allowed to drink. He is an alcoholic and he’s in the substance abuse program. It would be a violation.

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]]> By: bradtor777 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32135 bradtor777 Mon, 19 May 2008 22:37:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32135 As usual, the Bengals demonstrate poor timing. Now, while Thurman is on bereavement leave, is not the time to cut the player. This just sends the wrong signal, indicating that the Bengals still don't know right from wrong, good from bad, or how to run a football team. As usual, the Bengals demonstrate poor timing. Now, while Thurman is on bereavement leave, is not the time to cut the player. This just sends the wrong signal, indicating that the Bengals still don’t know right from wrong, good from bad, or how to run a football team.

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]]> By: bondem777 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32130 bondem777 Mon, 19 May 2008 22:26:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32130 If it was due to substance abuse issues, there is very little they can say to the public. The NFL is very limited in what they can say about violations of the substance abuse policy. This is why Roger Goodell did not have to say why he would not reinstate Odell in 2007. The Bengals have some rookie LBs (besides Rivers) who are looking good. If you are Marvin Lewis, do you cut a young kid who is there, working hard, and doing well in order to keep a guy who is not there, not motivated, out of shape, and one step away from a lifetime ban? Also, the Bengals have a new Defensive Coordinator, Mike Zimmer, who is bringing in some badly needed discipline, and this may be a reflection of that. If this is part of a newer, more disciplined mentality on the Bengals, then bring it on. I just know there has got to be more to this than the funeral issue. If it was due to substance abuse issues, there is very little they can say to the public. The NFL is very limited in what they can say about violations of the substance abuse policy. This is why Roger Goodell did not have to say why he would not reinstate Odell in 2007. The Bengals have some rookie LBs (besides Rivers) who are looking good. If you are Marvin Lewis, do you cut a young kid who is there, working hard, and doing well in order to keep a guy who is not there, not motivated, out of shape, and one step away from a lifetime ban? Also, the Bengals have a new Defensive Coordinator, Mike Zimmer, who is bringing in some badly needed discipline, and this may be a reflection of that. If this is part of a newer, more disciplined mentality on the Bengals, then bring it on. I just know there has got to be more to this than the funeral issue.

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]]> By: cliffclav http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32043 cliffclav Mon, 19 May 2008 20:13:50 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32043 I think alot of people are missing the point. It is not whether they cut him or not. It is timeing. And when you are being paid Millions to represent a team, Be it as a player, Coach, Or staff member. You are expected to make decisions that reflect positively on the organization. Odell more than likely would have been cut before the season began anyways. But the head office should have waited. Gave time to odell wait till camps began then said. "Well you hate cutting good players, But Its a good thing that you have that kind of depth, where your forced into cutting good player" That way Odell would have left on a positive note, The Organization would have looked like they were doing what was in the best interest of the team and the players. Instead they wait till the worst possible moment to do this. Whoever made the decison to do this did not think of how the organization would look. The only way this would make sense is if the team would have been on the hook for a considerable amount of money if he was on the roster for the next week. If I owned stock in the Bangles I would be requesting that the front office run Major Organizational decisions through a reputable P.R. Firm first to see how to put a good spin on things. Some people have tact some dont. Even if a decison is legal, It may not be moral or well received by the patrons of the organization. I think alot of people are missing the point. It is not whether they cut him or not. It is timeing. And when you are being paid Millions to represent a team, Be it as a player, Coach, Or staff member. You are expected to make decisions that reflect positively on the organization. Odell more than likely would have been cut before the season began anyways. But the head office should have waited. Gave time to odell wait till camps began then said. “Well you hate cutting good players, But Its a good thing that you have that kind of depth, where your forced into cutting good player” That way Odell would have left on a positive note, The Organization would have looked like they were doing what was in the best interest of the team and the players. Instead they wait till the worst possible moment to do this. Whoever made the decison to do this did not think of how the organization would look. The only way this would make sense is if the team would have been on the hook for a considerable amount of money if he was on the roster for the next week. If I owned stock in the Bangles I would be requesting that the front office run Major Organizational decisions through a reputable P.R. Firm first to see how to put a good spin on things. Some people have tact some dont. Even if a decison is legal, It may not be moral or well received by the patrons of the organization.

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]]> By: 33243324 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32012 33243324 Mon, 19 May 2008 19:44:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32012 Odell? Oh well. Other teams will be interested but (unless they are as hammer-headed as many of responders) will soon fall to the wayside when they familiarize themselves with the over-all Odell saga/story. Odell? Oh well. Other teams will be interested but (unless they are as hammer-headed as many of responders) will soon fall to the wayside when they familiarize themselves with the over-all Odell saga/story.

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]]> By: bondem777 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32009 bondem777 Mon, 19 May 2008 19:43:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-32009 As a Bengals fan, I am totally blown away. I was really looking forward to Odell coming back. There is no way this is about Odell attending his grandmother's funeral. I wonder if he violated the substance abuse program again? As a Bengals fan, I am totally blown away. I was really looking forward to Odell coming back. There is no way this is about Odell attending his grandmother’s funeral. I wonder if he violated the substance abuse program again?

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]]> By: tgoods http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31972 tgoods Mon, 19 May 2008 18:57:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31972 If the Bengals were having an organized game of hide and seek, he needed to be there.....or a picnic....or to sing songs....His grandmother's funeral was last Tuesday! You would think he would have come to OTA's and gave everything he had for her since he wont do it for himself. If the Bengals were having an organized game of hide and seek, he needed to be there…..or a picnic….or to sing songs….His grandmother’s funeral was last Tuesday! You would think he would have come to OTA’s and gave everything he had for her since he wont do it for himself.

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]]> By: VDogg http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31968 VDogg Mon, 19 May 2008 18:51:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31968 This guy has been circling the rim of the bowl for so long already he has probably mugged the Tidy Bowl man by now...are we really that concerned with this guy anymore? Obviously Cincy wasn't and they could have let the guy drown years ago...Sorry about your Grama-ma but welcome to reality. He has one of the most envyable jobs on the planet (as far as I'm concerned) to play professional football. They told him he could go to the funeral, but to be back by a certain date, he didn't do it and they cut him. It would have been different if he was the poster boy "of" discipline instead of the poster boy "for" discipline... This guy has been circling the rim of the bowl for so long already he has probably mugged the Tidy Bowl man by now…are we really that concerned with this guy anymore? Obviously Cincy wasn’t and they could have let the guy drown years ago…Sorry about your Grama-ma but welcome to reality. He has one of the most envyable jobs on the planet (as far as I’m concerned) to play professional football. They told him he could go to the funeral, but to be back by a certain date, he didn’t do it and they cut him. It would have been different if he was the poster boy “of” discipline instead of the poster boy “for” discipline…

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]]> By: moonbeam http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31956 moonbeam Mon, 19 May 2008 18:16:55 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31956 hold the press',this one has yet to fully develope. let's wait for the whole story to out befor we start burning people at the stake. have you noticed how fans of crappy teams are always willing to take a chance on people of dubious character? all is forgiven if you play for my team. hold the press’,this one has yet to fully develope.
let’s wait for the whole story to out befor we start
burning people at the stake.
have you noticed how fans of crappy teams are always
willing to take a chance on people of dubious character?
all is forgiven if you play for my team.

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]]> By: spyboots http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31948 spyboots Mon, 19 May 2008 18:08:26 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31948 yankeemofo, in this case, it was his "mother." His grandma is the one who raised him. yankeemofo, in this case, it was his “mother.” His grandma is the one who raised him.

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]]> By: Kidekk http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31940 Kidekk Mon, 19 May 2008 17:51:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31940 That is really messed up. Can you imagine if Thurman informed the team that he would miss the workouts but looking for a reason to cut him, they told him it was okay, then cut him? Probably didn't go down like that, but the next time anyone who was associated with the decision has a family member pass, they shouldn't miss work, especially if it is not voluntary. They have set a new precedent so I hope that they don't give anyone "preferential treatment." That is really messed up. Can you imagine if Thurman informed the team that he would miss the workouts but looking for a reason to cut him, they told him it was okay, then cut him? Probably didn’t go down like that, but the next time anyone who was associated with the decision has a family member pass, they shouldn’t miss work, especially if it is not voluntary. They have set a new precedent so I hope that they don’t give anyone “preferential treatment.”

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]]> By: jgrange http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31938 jgrange Mon, 19 May 2008 17:45:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31938 Drinking is not a crime. Maybe he called a cab the time you saw him out drinking. The Raiders would be smart to sign this guy. They would have the most talented group of LBs in the league to go along with one of the best secondaries in the league. That would be insane. Drinking is not a crime. Maybe he called a cab the time you saw him out drinking.

The Raiders would be smart to sign this guy. They would have the most talented group of LBs in the league to go along with one of the best secondaries in the league.

That would be insane.

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]]> By: DarthJay http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31936 DarthJay Mon, 19 May 2008 17:44:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31936 "You skipped out on your obligations and millions for what? It’s your GRANDMOTHER, DUDE!!! Even the FMLA doesn’t give us working schmucks time off for dead grandparents!!!" You mean the same grandmother that raised him after his mother died in 1993? Yeah DUDE, what the hell? It's only THAT GRANDMOTHER! DUDE! “You skipped out on your obligations and millions for what? It’s your GRANDMOTHER, DUDE!!! Even the FMLA doesn’t give us working schmucks time off for dead grandparents!!!”

You mean the same grandmother that raised him after his mother died in 1993? Yeah DUDE, what the hell? It’s only THAT GRANDMOTHER!

DUDE!

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]]> By: cliffclav http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31933 cliffclav Mon, 19 May 2008 17:37:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31933 Hey if I could pass on to the bangles a little food for thought. Check to see how the public reacted to Troy Williamson getting his game check cut because he missed a game when his grandmother died. HE MISSED A GAME. What is so amazing is that most Minnesotans hated Williamson because he always dropped balls. But stood up for him because you just don't treat people like that during a time of grieving. Now Odell showed more promise than Williamson ever did. And he is being let go because he did not go to VOLUNTARY workouts. I hope the Cincinnati has a good P.R. guy. Hey if I could pass on to the bangles a little food for thought. Check to see how the public reacted to Troy Williamson getting his game check cut because he missed a game when his grandmother died. HE MISSED A GAME. What is so amazing is that most Minnesotans hated Williamson because he always dropped balls. But stood up for him because you just don’t treat people like that during a time of grieving. Now Odell showed more promise than Williamson ever did. And he is being let go because he did not go to VOLUNTARY workouts. I hope the Cincinnati has a good P.R. guy.

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]]> By: SoCal Bengal http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31930 SoCal Bengal Mon, 19 May 2008 17:30:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31930 I need a new team... this is going to be another season of the same old stuff I need a new team… this is going to be another season of the same old stuff

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]]> By: montystevo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31929 montystevo Mon, 19 May 2008 17:28:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31929 Odell Thurman did not learn anything from his suspension. I am not trying to blow the whistle on this guy, but I work in a restaraunt in the Cincinnati area, and spotted this guy drinking on several occasions. Now if he is foolish enough to do this being a public figure, then he got what he desereved from the Bengals. When the Dallas Cowboys or Oakland Raiders sign this guy they better beware!!! Odell Thurman did not learn anything from his suspension. I am not trying to blow the whistle on this guy, but I work in a restaraunt in the Cincinnati area, and spotted this guy drinking on several occasions. Now if he is foolish enough to do this being a public figure, then he got what he desereved from the Bengals. When the Dallas Cowboys or Oakland Raiders sign this guy they better beware!!!

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]]> By: kylebzahar http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31926 kylebzahar Mon, 19 May 2008 17:26:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31926 It's a blessing, its not like he wants to play for the bengals It’s a blessing, its not like he wants to play for the bengals

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]]> By: dlmcc0202 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31924 dlmcc0202 Mon, 19 May 2008 17:19:38 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31924 Poor job by the Bengals. I understand the workouts are voluntary and guys like TJ and Ocho Droppo dont have to really show because they are veterans. The younger guys and the guys trying to stay in the coaches good graces need to be there to show they are giving it their all. That being said, the guy was at a funeral. The woman was like a mother to him so he should have been allowed a little leeway to help his family with this. Its not like he was home playing Xbox. The Bengals should have absolutely cut him some slack. Poor job by the Bengals. I understand the workouts are voluntary and guys like TJ and Ocho Droppo dont have to really show because they are veterans. The younger guys and the guys trying to stay in the coaches good graces need to be there to show they are giving it their all. That being said, the guy was at a funeral. The woman was like a mother to him so he should have been allowed a little leeway to help his family with this. Its not like he was home playing Xbox. The Bengals should have absolutely cut him some slack.

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]]> By: yankeemofo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31923 yankeemofo Mon, 19 May 2008 17:19:37 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31923 Umm, has everyone been following this turd's career? This is not a one strike and you're out situation. The fool has just been reinstated to the league, he should be walking on eggshells. You skipped out on your obligations and millions for what? It's your GRANDMOTHER, DUDE!!! Even the FMLA doesn't give us working schmucks time off for dead grandparents!!! Synopsis of Law ---------------- Covered employers must grant an eligible employee up to a total of 12 workweeks of unpaid leave during any 12-month period for one or more of the following reasons: * for the birth and care of the newborn child of the employee; * for placement with the employee of a son or daughter for adoption or foster care; * to care for an immediate family member (spouse, child, or parent) with a serious health condition; or * to take medical leave when the employee is unable to work because of a serious health condition. Umm, has everyone been following this turd’s career? This is not a one strike and you’re out situation. The fool has just been reinstated to the league, he should be walking on eggshells.

You skipped out on your obligations and millions for what? It’s your GRANDMOTHER, DUDE!!! Even the FMLA doesn’t give us working schmucks time off for dead grandparents!!!

Synopsis of Law
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Covered employers must grant an eligible employee up to a total of 12 workweeks of unpaid leave during any 12-month period for one or more of the following reasons:

* for the birth and care of the newborn child of the employee;
* for placement with the employee of a son or daughter for adoption or foster care;
* to care for an immediate family member (spouse, child, or parent) with a serious health condition; or
* to take medical leave when the employee is unable to work because of a serious health condition.

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]]> By: Taco Bill http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31918 Taco Bill Mon, 19 May 2008 17:11:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31918 If Odell has actually "cleaned up" .....then he is better off leaving leaving that turd infested city for a fresh start elsewhere. If Odell has actually “cleaned up” …..then he is better off leaving leaving that turd infested city for a fresh start elsewhere.

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]]> By: Rob0769 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31916 Rob0769 Mon, 19 May 2008 17:08:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31916 After missing basically two years due to suspension, it was clear that Thurman wore out his welcome in Cincy. It is pretty clear that the Bengals were looking for an excuse to dump him. That said, they should have waited for a better reason than missing voluntary OTAs due to a death in the family. There could have been 100 reasons they could have cut him and they chose the one that makes them look like heartless bastards. Good job! After missing basically two years due to suspension, it was clear that Thurman wore out his welcome in Cincy. It is pretty clear that the Bengals were looking for an excuse to dump him.

That said, they should have waited for a better reason than missing voluntary OTAs due to a death in the family. There could have been 100 reasons they could have cut him and they chose the one that makes them look like heartless bastards. Good job!

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]]> By: cliffclav http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31915 cliffclav Mon, 19 May 2008 17:08:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31915 What is going to be the biggest suprise story that ESPN is going to break this year? A:The Discovery of a real easter bunny B:A socially responsible Cincinatti Bangle C:The lost Matt Walsh Rams Superbowl walkthrough tape D:Lockness monster is finally caught ha ha.. Trick question, none of these exist.... What is going to be the biggest suprise story that ESPN is going to break this year?
A:The Discovery of a real easter bunny
B:A socially responsible Cincinatti Bangle
C:The lost Matt Walsh Rams Superbowl walkthrough tape
D:Lockness monster is finally caught

ha ha.. Trick question, none of these exist….

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]]> By: Klutch http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31909 Klutch Mon, 19 May 2008 17:04:28 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31909 Better believe this has Chad Johnson's gears turning. Better believe this has Chad Johnson’s gears turning.

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]]> By: boh http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31907 boh Mon, 19 May 2008 17:02:41 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31907 Maybe it is becausle he was pulled over by Hamilton County sherriff deputies about a month ago in colrain twsp with a bunch of thugs and smoke pouring out of the windows.!!!! He is a bad apple and it was only a matter of time before it caught up with him again. Time to move forward Maybe it is becausle he was pulled over by Hamilton County sherriff deputies about a month ago in colrain twsp with a bunch of thugs and smoke pouring out of the windows.!!!! He is a bad apple and it was only a matter of time before it caught up with him again. Time to move forward

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]]> By: Rappy http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31902 Rappy Mon, 19 May 2008 16:51:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31902 Florio.. Like many other readers I am also shocked by this move. I thought the team stuck by Odell through the rough times and was hoping he'd get it together. Apparently not. I think there is more to this story. That being said, do you think this opens up the door for Takeo Spikes to sign with Cincinnati? Rumor a few months ago had Takeo interested in going back. I don't recall seeing where he has signed anywhere. I know they have also told A. Brooks that he's not playing middle linebacker. Will the next #51 in Cincinnati be Takeo again? Your thoughts? Florio..

Like many other readers I am also shocked by this move. I thought the team stuck by Odell through the rough times and was hoping he’d get it together. Apparently not. I think there is more to this story.

That being said, do you think this opens up the door for Takeo Spikes to sign with Cincinnati? Rumor a few months ago had Takeo interested in going back. I don’t recall seeing where he has signed anywhere. I know they have also told A. Brooks that he’s not playing middle linebacker. Will the next #51 in Cincinnati be Takeo again?

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]]> By: ruckus26 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31901 ruckus26 Mon, 19 May 2008 16:47:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31901 What are the chances that Thurman missed a mandatory drug test scheduled during the OTA's? Maybe he fell off the wagon after the funeral....who knows??? The one thing we do know is that the Bengals stood by him for 2 years when they could have cut him at any time, so this does not add up as presented....something else is going on. What are the chances that Thurman missed a mandatory drug test scheduled during the OTA’s? Maybe he fell off the wagon after the funeral….who knows??? The one thing we do know is that the Bengals stood by him for 2 years when they could have cut him at any time, so this does not add up as presented….something else is going on.

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]]> By: ken13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31900 ken13 Mon, 19 May 2008 16:46:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31900 It's Belichick's fault.....don't you know that?? He secretly taped Odell not working out and forwarded the tapes to the Bengals. Damn that Belichick...he did it again !!! It’s Belichick’s fault…..don’t you know that?? He secretly taped Odell not working out and forwarded the tapes to the Bengals. Damn that Belichick…he did it again !!!

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]]> By: whodey0932 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31899 whodey0932 Mon, 19 May 2008 16:46:23 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31899 The last thing odell needs to be doing is missing out on OTAs. He was already in the dog house because he has been suspended for the past two years. This would be crazy if he were a 5 year starter but he has been suspended. Who knows what is up with thurman. He could still be on drugs. The only one that knows the true details is Mike, Marvin and Odell. I think this is a good move for the Bengals especially with keith rivers coming in The last thing odell needs to be doing is missing out on OTAs. He was already in the dog house because he has been suspended for the past two years. This would be crazy if he were a 5 year starter but he has been suspended. Who knows what is up with thurman. He could still be on drugs. The only one that knows the true details is Mike, Marvin and Odell. I think this is a good move for the Bengals especially with keith rivers coming in

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]]> By: Football http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31897 Football Mon, 19 May 2008 16:42:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31897 How is anyone so stupid to believe the PFT's story that the Bengals cut Thurman because he attended his Grandmother's funeral instead of OTAs? Dont you think that it is much more likely that there is more to the story than that? Also the headline "Bengals Don't Deny Allegations Regarding Thurman" is incredibly misleading. The Bengals werent addressing the allegations from PFT in their statement, so to spin their statement as a quasi-admission is a very big stretch. All Marvin said was that Thurman has not taken "the right steps." In what world can that statement be read as an admission that Thurman was cut because he wanted to go to his Grandma's funeral? How is anyone so stupid to believe the PFT’s story that the Bengals cut Thurman because he attended his Grandmother’s funeral instead of OTAs?

Dont you think that it is much more likely that there is more to the story than that?

Also the headline “Bengals Don’t Deny Allegations Regarding Thurman” is incredibly misleading. The Bengals werent addressing the allegations from PFT in their statement, so to spin their statement as a quasi-admission is a very big stretch.

All Marvin said was that Thurman has not taken “the right steps.” In what world can that statement be read as an admission that Thurman was cut because he wanted to go to his Grandma’s funeral?

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]]> By: bdcwriter http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31892 bdcwriter Mon, 19 May 2008 16:36:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31892 Got to wonder if the time he was spending with family was too often spent in bars... Got to wonder if the time he was spending with family was too often spent in bars…

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]]> By: DM http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31888 DM Mon, 19 May 2008 16:32:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31888 So basically had he missed the workouts because he was doing a home invasion, they wouldn't have cared and probably have given him a new contract. So basically had he missed the workouts because he was doing a home invasion, they wouldn’t have cared and probably have given him a new contract.

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]]> By: GeauxSaints12 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31886 GeauxSaints12 Mon, 19 May 2008 16:28:38 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31886 If they let him go becasue his missed a OTA for a funeral. The Bengals need to be put up on charges. I don't care if he made a billion mistakes. Family comes before anything. If they let him go becasue his missed a OTA for a funeral. The Bengals need to be put up on charges. I don’t care if he made a billion mistakes. Family comes before anything.

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]]> By: Stoogie http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31876 Stoogie Mon, 19 May 2008 16:19:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31876 Doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason for the way the Bengals operate. Unless by Lewis saying "...we have not seen the right steps taken by him" he means "Odell was busted for another DUI that hasn't been reported yet", this seems kind of cold on their part. Doesn’t seem to be a rhyme or reason for the way the Bengals operate. Unless by Lewis saying “…we have not seen the right steps taken by him” he means “Odell was busted for another DUI that hasn’t been reported yet”, this seems kind of cold on their part.

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]]> By: wildo05 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31873 wildo05 Mon, 19 May 2008 16:16:41 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31873 What number will Thurman wear for the Patriots this year? What number will Thurman wear for the Patriots this year?

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]]> By: Fiedeldey http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31872 Fiedeldey Mon, 19 May 2008 16:15:41 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31872 My guess is there is more to this story than is being said if hs agent claims ther will not be a grievance filed. Maybe being back in Cincinnati required him to pee in a cup, which he did not want to do after just visiting Georgia. I agree, Mike Brown is very loyal, so there must be more to the story. My guess is there is more to this story than is being said if hs agent claims ther will not be a grievance filed. Maybe being back in Cincinnati required him to pee in a cup, which he did not want to do after just visiting Georgia. I agree, Mike Brown is very loyal, so there must be more to the story.

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]]> By: Kotite http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31870 Kotite Mon, 19 May 2008 16:13:54 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31870 4 posts on Odell? How many flushes does it take for this one to go down? 4 posts on Odell? How many flushes does it take for this one to go down?

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]]> By: DarthJay http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31869 DarthJay Mon, 19 May 2008 16:13:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31869 The Cincinnati Bengals are by far and away the biggest disgrace in the NFL. Top to bottom and out on the field it's just a joke. Al Davis thinks these guys need to be sold. The Cincinnati Bengals are by far and away the biggest disgrace in the NFL. Top to bottom and out on the field it’s just a joke. Al Davis thinks these guys need to be sold.

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]]> By: WhoDeyBuck http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31865 WhoDeyBuck Mon, 19 May 2008 16:07:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31865 Thurman's agent was just on the radio and he said that Odell will *not* be filing a grievance. It blows my mind how the Bengals can give Chris Henry chance after chance after chance, and they cut Thurman for going to a funeral. Thurman’s agent was just on the radio and he said that Odell will *not* be filing a grievance.

It blows my mind how the Bengals can give Chris Henry chance after chance after chance, and they cut Thurman for going to a funeral.

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]]> By: jpwalrus http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31864 jpwalrus Mon, 19 May 2008 16:07:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31864 An unfortunate turn of events. Thurman is a beast and would be an asset to a defense in desperate need of some assets. That said, he seems to have a long history of being unreliable/not showing up when he says he will. If he told the team/media he would be here last week and didn't show up (which he did) -- regardless of whether he planned on participating in OTAs -- he went back on his word again and I could maybe see the team's justification for taking this action. But this does seem like a pretty cold move for Mike Brown. Say what you want about the man but he is extremely loyal. Why else would the team have stuck by Thurman this long? It just doesn't add up. An unfortunate turn of events. Thurman is a beast and would be an asset to a defense in desperate need of some assets. That said, he seems to have a long history of being unreliable/not showing up when he says he will. If he told the team/media he would be here last week and didn’t show up (which he did) — regardless of whether he planned on participating in OTAs — he went back on his word again and I could maybe see the team’s justification for taking this action.

But this does seem like a pretty cold move for Mike Brown. Say what you want about the man but he is extremely loyal. Why else would the team have stuck by Thurman this long? It just doesn’t add up.

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]]> By: LD83 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31859 LD83 Mon, 19 May 2008 16:02:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31859 Thank you for telling the whole story, Florio. ESPN just threw something up that didn't include the details about the Grandmother's funeral. What a bunch of garbage. You'd think they'd jump at the opportunity to exploit the situation, like they normally do. Thank you for telling the whole story, Florio. ESPN just threw something up that didn’t include the details about the Grandmother’s funeral. What a bunch of garbage. You’d think they’d jump at the opportunity to exploit the situation, like they normally do.

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]]> By: Geronimo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31857 Geronimo Mon, 19 May 2008 15:44:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31857 I had hoped PFT was wrong on this one. Kudos to y'all for being on top of this. My best guess is one of Mike Brown's G-men followed Thurman around and didn't like what he was seeing at the after party. Welcome back to the MIKE, Ahmad Brooks. I had hoped PFT was wrong on this one. Kudos to y’all for being on top of this. My best guess is one of Mike Brown’s G-men followed Thurman around and didn’t like what he was seeing at the after party.
Welcome back to the MIKE, Ahmad Brooks.

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]]> By: BrownsFan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31853 BrownsFan Mon, 19 May 2008 15:30:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31853 For those of you keeping track at home: DUI's are okay with the Bengals, attending funerals and missing voluntary practices are not. Got that? For those of you keeping track at home: DUI’s are okay with the Bengals, attending funerals and missing voluntary practices are not. Got that?

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]]> By: spyboots http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31852 spyboots Mon, 19 May 2008 15:30:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/19/bengals-dont-deny-allegations-regarding-thurman/#comment-31852 I don't understand this. Could it be that attending voluntary OTAs was part of his deal with the Bengals after his reinstatement or something? I don’t understand this. Could it be that attending voluntary OTAs was part of his deal with the Bengals after his reinstatement or something?

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