“I want my division champ label back. It made me feel special!”

Don’t worry man — your rep stands on its own even without the little tag. LOL.

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Belichick’s got no credibility, and he makes it worse every time he speaks - like McGwire and Palmeiro at the BALCO hearings. He and the Pats are frauds.
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That’s it. That will save you a good hour or so.

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May 17th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
my family thinks Im pretty ok, actually. Not sure what part of my post is so inexcusable, being it was my first time posting here I guess you will hafta forgive me. Geesh.
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Nothing was inexcusable. You just gotta understand you are wading into a cesspool when you post on here. Every thing, and every one is fair game once your name goes up in lights - just like the celebrities and atheletes - only without any true substance and certainly no money!! LOL

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When insulting the intelligence of others it’s usually considered appropriate to actually use the correct word tenses.

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Grow up? I’m giving my opinion on the matter, and in no way was I acting immature or uneducated. I strongly believe that people who were sick of seeing the Patriots beat them by an average score of 37-17, just don’t think about the other side of this matter. I came in here, not writing to any of you, but writing to Florio. If you stuck me in a room full of football fans, none of which were Patriot followers, I guess I would be called out on my response, and my Rating would be 2.02/5 with 24 votes. But honestly, you aren’t a Patriots fan, and comparing Bill Belichick to your child is NONSENSICAL. That, to me, is more immature and a more unintelligent move than anything I’ve seen in response to this article.

And to jrhsd,

Wow. Class act there. That’s all I have to say.

Go Patriots.

(Since we were caught “cheating”, we’ve gone 18-1, through SCRUTINY and intense battles EVERY WEEK. We played in 10 Super Bowls that season, and in most cases we came out winning by 30 points.)

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I feel sorry for your husband and kid(s). You must totally suck the life out of them if your post is any example of how you discuss things.

Carry on.

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Goodell is doing his job and the rehashing over this is
because of Arlen Comcast Specter who still wants his team
the Philadelphia Eagles to appear to have been cheated out
of the Super Bowl.

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“If Arlen gets his way, there is gonna be HELL to pay in the NFL. But I suspect his new statements about “not seeking an investigation” are the direct result of other Senators telling him that he was beginning to sound like he needed some prozac, or something. The man is certifiably NUTS. Cause yeah, this is a big deal, in the sports world..but um…arent we at WAR? And by the way, about those gas prices? (I still cant believe no one has blamed GWB for spygate yet.)”
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I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BUSH WAS BEHIND THIS TOO!!! FIGURES, ANYTHING WITH A MAJOR COVERUP AND LOTS OF LYING DEFINITELY STINKS OF GWB!! Wow, that must really irk you Pats fans terribly! To think of a democratic stronghold like MASS being associated with GWB!!!!

BTW, are you wearing your cheerleader outfit at theis moment? Got a pic to share?? LMAO

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Stop trying to smear the messenger and focus on the message.

What did or does Walsh actually have to gain by talking? Not another NFL job, that is for sure. Probly wont help him attract too many more tennis lessons either. Perhaps he can eventually sell a book or something, but I doubt that would work if was making up the story.

What does he stand to lose if the Pats can actually prove he is lying about anyting?
Bwah ha ha ha.
Think about it idiots.

He kept the tapes for insurance like Macnamee kept the Rocket feuled needles. He knew it was wrong, but was in on it and if or when he was forced out or called a liar, he had evidence to support his story.

What have the Pats got in the form of evidence against his story? Other than cliams of ingorance of an obvious rule, and a few pictures of Walsh wearing Pats garb?

He was a Pats camera man with some legit job duties, I would assume not all of his work was filming playcalling.
Perhaps he was not very good at his job, but that does not make him a liar.

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Please. It’d be one thing if after being put on notice Belichick stopped. But he didn’t. He continued to cheat, after he was explicitly warned that what he was doing was cheating. So whether or not he was intentionally cheating before that (which he cleary was), he was intentionally cheating after it. He’s a cheater. He’s a liar. He’s an embarrassment to the NFL and to its fans. I don’t care how effective his cheating was. I don’t care when it started or when it ended. I don’t care about Walsh or Specter. I don’t even care how much of the Pats’ success is owed to their cheating. The fact is that Belichick, and many of the Patriots coaches and coordinators over the years, have knowingly and willingly cheated. They have purposefully tarnished the integrity of the game and breached the bounds of fair play. They should be banned from the NFL for life and stripped of any accomplishments or awards they’ve been given. But, of course, they won’t be. Because the NFL has no interest in actually cleaning the league up. They just want to maintain the appearance that the league is clean. Because perception is reality… right?
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Very well Said!! This statement is the icing on the cake, and cherry on the sundae!!

‘Nuff Said!

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The interview had nothing to do with Kraft being friends with CBS. It has more to do with the fact that Belichick respects Artmen K.

Since you didn’t understand it Florio I’ll explain it. When Belichick said that Walsh was simply a 3rd camera man and What does he know about football? He was referring to all that was said about being on the field for the Rams walk through and how he relayed info to Daboll.
As far as discrediting him for being fired, he was pointing out that Walsh has an agenda against the patriots.
Is that so difficult to comprehend? C’mon Florio.

As per the commish believing Walsh but not BB, I dont really see that he believed Walsh more that Walsh brought NOTHING to the table. If he had something of substance then Goodell would have looked into it for proof.

As per the taping prior to 2006, if it was more or less commonplace and not cracked down on by the NFl then how can we expect to hang them for it now?

Irrational haters save your dribble. Belichick will be back and he will once again devise schemes to crush your team without mercy. ESPN will probably talk about piling on the points again and Pats fans will love it.

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Look it up Florio. Belichick read that clause and believed the rule was in tact.

Please explain why Matt Estrella was in plain view so anyone could see what he was doing. If Belichick was intentionally cheating he would have put the camera man in the stands someplace where the opposing team couldnt see what he was doing.

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This creates a very interesting environment in the NFL thanks to Goodell - one where the rules are only relevant if Goodell says so - and one where Goodell can change the rules on a whim.

Of course no one among the NFL or among the media who wants to remain in Goodell’s good graces is willing to call Goodell on this matter.

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Did anyone see Walsh’s interview with Andrea Kremer? I think she was way to easy on him. She asked a question whether Bill could pick Matt out of a line up. His response (and I quote), “I bet he could now.” I think that speaks volumes for who Matt Walsh really is.

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Belichick says that Walsh claimed to have “advised coaches” on football, but Walsh has never said that. From what I’ve read, he only told coaches what he saw during a walkthrough, and a player told Walsh that the videotaping and stealing signals helped them pick off plays 75% of the time.

The CBS bias, however small, is worth bringing up. They’re opening a multimillion dollar CBS Sports restaurant in the middle of Patriot Place, and they gave it a plug during the interview - do you really think that Keteyan was going to ask Belichick tough questions?

Belichick’s got no credibility, and he makes it worse every time he speaks - like McGwire and Palmeiro at the BALCO hearings. He and the Pats are frauds.

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Facts - Belichick lied, Goodell didn’t believe him, the public doesn’t believe him (unless you’re a Patriot fan), and several head coaches (current and previous) have spoken out about it.

Fact- If Matt Walsh had an axe to grind about his termination, this story would have come out years ago - closer to the time when darling Tom Brady was grabbing his head in disbelief and awe (insert gag here) after winning one of his Super Bowls.

Fact - Belichick is considered brilliant. That presumption and his reputation is the only thing he’s trying to protect. Both of which are forever tarnished - especially after trying to discredit a guy who obviously had something believable to say. What has Belichick said in the last 8-9 months that anyone has believed? He didn’t know cheating was wrong? (lie), He only cheated in 2006-2007? (wrong).

Last fact - To be fair, he grew up cheating - people like Jimmy Johnson and others have acknowledged that they’ve done it in the past. However, the rules put into place in the last 7-8 years or so were put there to prevent the Jimmy Johnson era from occuring again. Bill Belichick thought he could circumvent those rules.

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What about the connection of Specter to Comcast?

What about ESPN’s yearS long crusade against Belichick (lets go back to 2006 and review “the Handshake” “the Divorce” and all the other earth shattering anti-Belichick stories they could drum up) which began long before they brewed up “Spygate”.

What about the fact that Walsh was FIRED, has been caught embellishing the facts, and has repeatedly been caught in falsehoods?

What about folks like Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells, and others who have the history and credentials who have come out and stated they had done this in the past, and knew of other teams who have done it, and that it is MUCH ado about nothing?

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Am I missing something? When did Belichick concede that the Sept 2006 memo left no room for misinterpretation? Hasn’t he always said he thought that memo only prohibited video taping signals for use in the same game? That is what he said he was wrong about-thinking that the rule only prohibited videotaping for use in the same game. As far as I know he’s never said that he knew the whole practice of taping (from the sidelines) was prohibited. I think you are misconstruing the facts here.

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Quote:
Q. The week before the 2002 Super Bowl against the Rams — walk me through the week.

A. Me and Steve didn’t get down until Tuesday, with all the other assistant coaches. Bill and the other players went down Monday, because they had to be there for media day on Tuesday. Since it was a short week because of 9/11, we stayed behind until Tuesday with the coaches, helping them prepare the game plan.
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Its a ridiculous suggestion by Walsh and what Belichick was referring to. That and other suggestions by Walsh he was involved in game planning. And Walsh goes on to say me and Steve stayed behind until Tuesday “with all the OTHER assistant coaches.” First of all, he is talking about Steve Scarnecchia, who was a video assistant like Walsh. Yet apparently, in Walsh’s delusional mind, he was an assistant coach…..i.e. his reference to “all the OTHER assistant coaches” as if he is one himself. This is clearly delusional and twisted. He was a video assistant. Low level. So was Steve. He wasn’t an assistant coach.

Too bad Florio didn’t research this blog entry very well, obviously missing these comments by Walsh. Walsh is a desperate guy with delusions of what he was in the past being greater than the facts indicate.

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On the other hand, I think BB’s objection is definitely more believable with regard to the taping rule. Suffice to say, he had been taping openly for a while, since Pats cameramen were caught a couple times, tapes exist of coaches waving at the cameras, and of course the taping during the Jets game was completely in the open. Thus, the options are:
- Walsh’s claim that he was told to hide was false;
- Walsh’s claim was true, but the Pats did not think it was a big deal to tape anyway (e.g., they thought they would not get punished, or only get a slap on the wrist if caught), so they didn’t tell other cameramen;
- the Pats knew they would be in trouble if caught, but decided they would be in more trouble if caught hiding than if caught in the open (plausible deniability);
- the Pats grew complacent with time, assuming that what they were doing was not really breaking but more like stretching a rule, as a result of the league not doing anything the other times they got caught, and possibly of their knowledge that the practice was common enough (corroborated by Walsh’s own claim he saw other teams taping the Pats).

The last one seems the more likely to me. The only conclusion that doesn’t hold water is that the Pats told all of their cameramen to hide because they knew they were seriously breaking a rule, but then didn’t care if the cameramen did or did not follow orders. That really doesn’t jibe with BB’s detail-oriented and paranoid coaching style.

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The Patriots have been taping signals for years…legally until 06..illegally (ok, not illegally but against the rules) for ONE game, in which they were caught.

They really werent attempting subterfuge, they taped in the wide open, and it wasnt that they taped that was the issue, it was from where.

Matt Walsh is one of those guys that women hate, he brags about the things “he” has done, and glorifies them into something they just arent. “I drive a Maserati” versus “I parked some rich guys Maserati at the club last night.” It has some truth to it, he did drive a Maserati, but it wasnt his and it sure didnt last long, but he feels big and important by saying it.

Throughout all of this, I cannot shake the image in my mind of the pictures from the article about his wedding. The man had a bedroom that was less a man’s room than said 12 year old son currently has. Can you say glory-seeker? He made it LOOK like he was something he wasnt, with all of his pats paraphanelia, but the stuff was mostly stolen. The hubris of going public with shots of the piles ‘o stuff was shocking. And I have no doubt it was latched onto by the team when his name started popping up again. That same article made it sound like he did everything but wipe BBs butt. He was a THIRD STRING camera dude, who got fired for ineptitude and deceit. But that didnt look good on a resume, so he…uh…lied. (And the world believed this guy?)

What MW had to offer to anyone was nothing but a big old bowl of spoiled grapes. He had nothing new to offer. He came out of that meeting looking like even more of a schmuck than he did going in.

I wonder what his wife thinks? Or better yet, his Father-In-Law? Is he a Pats fan? Must make for some awkward silences around the table, dont you think?

I think Tomasse of the Herald is an ass. I think his explanation sucked. I think he and whoever ok’d that story should be fired, because the integrity of the paper is only as good as the lowest man n the rungs.

I wonder what the guys on the team must have felt like, seeing that article and living with that kind of hatred and disgust (Cheatriots, Belicheat, asterisks, walkthroughs). How could they have played that game, with the wind knocked right out of them? I see them as individuals, I guess, and I cant help but wonder what it felt like for a man of great character like Tedy B to suit up that day, when he has done everything in his power to lead a good and decent life and be an example of GOOD sportsmanship? what did he tell his sons? What will they remember about this day?

I may be one of the only fans who look forward to what you write here, and how often that is about the Patriots. I get it, it is on my mind a lot too. So thanks , even when you say things I disagree with, you say them respectfully. And you dont make things up, or at least I dont think you do, to get a scoop.

Speaking of scoops. I will ALWAYS think of Tomasse as “Scoop” from now until forever. And it isnt a good kinda scoop. I cannot imagine how he thinks he can continue to cover our beloved patriots, and that ANYONE will read his drivel ever again. He is a traitor, more hated than mangini. and that says a LOT.

My biggest rivalry used to be the Colts. Now I just want to pummel the Jets into oblivion. Hypocritical asshats.

If Arlen gets his way, there is gonna be HELL to pay in the NFL. But I suspect his new statements about “not seeking an investigation” are the direct result of other Senators telling him that he was beginning to sound like he needed some prozac, or something. The man is certifiably NUTS. Cause yeah, this is a big deal, in the sports world..but um…arent we at WAR? And by the way, about those gas prices? (I still cant believe no one has blamed GWB for spygate yet.)

I respect BB more now than ever. Crazy, isnt it? But he could have been blabbing this whole time, and he didnt. I like his mysteriousness. Its a whole lot more manly than Mr Blabbermouth walsh. When BB talks, its worth listening to.

I hope our team takes it all the way this year, and silences the critics. Sadly, if we dont have a GOOD showing, we will forever be tarnished, and people will say we only won because we cheated. we did cheat. in ONE game. Boy would I love old Arlen to prove that we werent the ONLY ones. But then again, thats a can o worms that would likely destroy the NFL as we know it, and even for revenge, I wont go there.

Oh…one more thing. Yeah, Im old. Middle aged, work my ass off. and yep, I PROUDLY wear my bruschi jersey…still. and no, I couldnt probably run the length of a football field. and no, I dont care what ANYONE thinks. They’re my team, and I love em.

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Look at all the little cheating maggots trying to destroy you now Mike. Of course earlier this week they were in love with you. Fickle little hyenas- they are as dirty as their cheating coach.

Face it cheaters, the interview- all 15 minutes of it, is garbage. Bill is a liar. Bill knows that he’s playing a game because he knows while he didn’t directly tell Walsh not to get caught his compadre in cheating- Ernie Adams did. Bill also knows that this lame claim that Walsh doesn’t know anything about football is a bunch of junk. All Walsh claimed was to have advised Romeo of someone doing the same thing and yet Bill wants to make it seem like Walsh was implying he was giving advice on what plays to call. Face it cheaters, Bill doesn’t know anything about football either, he only knows how to lie and cheat.

No one is as stupid as Bill and the rest of you idiots thinks, we know that these other guys that Bill paid to do this were producing tapes in 2002+ that were used during the games.

Your Super Bowls are meaningless.

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What? You mean NO ONE at the New York Times, in the Commissioner’s office, or in the United States Senate sought to ask Walsh the most basic of all follow up questions to such a bombshell announcement?

Am I the only one who gets the feeling they don’t WANT to know? They’ve got a handy scapegoat… the last thing everyone wants is to do is entertain the notion that some, most or all teams cheat in some way or another.

It’s just amazing they get away with this even when someone makes an announcement in the NY times - they think no one will notice or wonder why they didn’t ask the natural next question.

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It ain’t worth the oxygen or keystrokes…

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Thanks for the opinion.

For those of us who no longer shive a git, do you think it possible to move on to other “infotainment”!

Thanks,

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I laugh at your self importance Sean Martin. Grow up.

I also have to say I thought this site was biased towards the Patriots, but this article is fair and well written.

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