Comments on: KENNEDY SLAMS SPECTER http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:54:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: the voice http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-31201 the voice Sat, 17 May 2008 08:57:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-31201 An interesting analogy: Ted Kennedy = Senator from Massachusetts. NE Patriots = Only NFL Football team from Massachusetts Ted Kennedy = Voted into office by the people of Massachusetts for over 45 yrs. NE Patriots = Majority of fans live in Massachusetts Ted Kennedy = Keeps a Senate seat supported by Patriot fans for over 45 years. State of Massachusetts (Patriot Fans) = Due to their love affair with the Kennedy's and wanting to preserve the Kennedy legacy, elect Ted Tennedy in 1962 and say that Chappaquiddick is over and a closed issue The other 49 States = Majority of Americans can't stand Ted Kennedy and blame the people of Massachusetts for making the entire Country deal with him. Ted Kennedy = Still after 45 years, Americans outside of Massachusetts have not forgotten Chappaquiddick and never will. New England Patriots = Eager to say that Spygate is closed and save the Patriots legacy in May of 2008. Ted Kennedy = Eager to say that Spygate is closed and save the Patriots Legacy in May of 2008. Majority of people from Massachusetts (Patriot Fans) = Eager to say that Spygate is closed and save the Patriots Legacy in May of 2008. Most Fans beside Patriot Fans = Have not forgotten Spygate and never will. I guess my point is that Ted Kennedy and the Patriots are one in the same according to the people that support them. They are in love with the two and willing to forgive and forget. Like Chappaquiddick has hung on Kennedy his whole life, I believe Spygate will hang over the Patriots as well. Just my opinion. An interesting analogy:

Ted Kennedy = Senator from Massachusetts.
NE Patriots = Only NFL Football team from Massachusetts

Ted Kennedy = Voted into office by the people of Massachusetts for over 45 yrs.

NE Patriots = Majority of fans live in Massachusetts

Ted Kennedy = Keeps a Senate seat supported by Patriot fans for over 45 years.

State of Massachusetts (Patriot Fans) = Due to their love affair with the Kennedy’s and wanting to preserve the Kennedy legacy, elect Ted Tennedy in 1962 and say that Chappaquiddick is over and a closed issue

The other 49 States = Majority of Americans can’t stand Ted Kennedy and blame the people of Massachusetts for making the entire Country deal with him.

Ted Kennedy = Still after 45 years, Americans outside of Massachusetts have not forgotten Chappaquiddick and never will.

New England Patriots = Eager to say that Spygate is closed and save the Patriots legacy in May of 2008.

Ted Kennedy = Eager to say that Spygate is closed and save the Patriots Legacy in May of 2008.

Majority of people from Massachusetts (Patriot Fans) = Eager to say that Spygate is closed and save the Patriots Legacy in May of 2008.

Most Fans beside Patriot Fans = Have not forgotten Spygate and never will.

I guess my point is that Ted Kennedy and the Patriots are one in the same according to the people that support them. They are in love with the two and willing to forgive and forget. Like Chappaquiddick has hung on Kennedy his whole life, I believe Spygate will hang over the Patriots as well. Just my opinion.

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]]> By: dwatkins http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30748 dwatkins Fri, 16 May 2008 15:35:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30748 Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my gun!! Ted Kennedy’s car has killed more people than my gun!!

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]]> By: Hadley Rille http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30667 Hadley Rille Fri, 16 May 2008 13:52:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30667 "Specter would be smashed as flat as cream donut sat on by Jamarcus Russell." If there's one thing Russell knows, it's donuts. There's no way he'd be so foolish as to sit on one when it instead could join the 3 dozen others he has for breakfast every morning. “Specter would be smashed as flat as cream donut sat on by Jamarcus Russell.”

If there’s one thing Russell knows, it’s donuts. There’s no way he’d be so foolish as to sit on one when it instead could join the 3 dozen others he has for breakfast every morning.

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]]> By: monger http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30646 monger Fri, 16 May 2008 13:31:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30646 Too bad it wasn't a full body slam from lard ass Kennedy. Specter would be smashed as flat as cream donut sat on by Jamarcus Russell. Too bad it wasn’t a full body slam from lard ass Kennedy. Specter would be smashed as flat as cream donut sat on by Jamarcus Russell.

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]]> By: Sean-a-delphia http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30624 Sean-a-delphia Fri, 16 May 2008 13:02:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30624 But didnt Kennedy put a lot of time into the baseball/steriod issue as far as opinion etc.? but NOW he is saying we need to worry about Iraq? LMAO he is priceless. Good job on Angelo this morning Florio.. But didnt Kennedy put a lot of time into the baseball/steriod issue as far as opinion etc.? but NOW he is saying we need to worry about Iraq? LMAO he is priceless.

Good job on Angelo this morning Florio..

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]]> By: Wink and the Gun http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30561 Wink and the Gun Fri, 16 May 2008 09:13:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30561 since when does Congress abide by the constitution? since when does Congress abide by the constitution?

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]]> By: Casanova http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30556 Casanova Fri, 16 May 2008 08:36:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30556 This is how twisted this Spygate thing has become... I'm a registered Republican in the state of Massachusetts (that alone is hellish enough) and I now find myself having to ditch the Republican (Specter) and embracing the Democrat (Kennedy). Ugh. MAKE IT STOP PLEASE! THE HUMANITY! This is how twisted this Spygate thing has become… I’m a registered Republican in the state of Massachusetts (that alone is hellish enough) and I now find myself having to ditch the Republican (Specter) and embracing the Democrat (Kennedy). Ugh.

MAKE IT STOP PLEASE! THE HUMANITY!

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]]> By: Brad http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30497 Brad Fri, 16 May 2008 03:37:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30497 "1. Ted Kennedy is biased towards his home team. 2. So, apparently, is this site. Instead of spending all your time slamming Specter and looking for politicians from Massachusetts (who may not be sober) to back up your claims, why not look at the real issue here: the Patriots were only punished for one instance of cheating and they need to punished for ALL of the others. Bellichick obviously knew he was breaking the rules, he tried to cover it up and he needs to be suspended. " 1. And Specter isnt? 2. He was punished for all of it. As Goodell said after seeing all the tapes the Patriots submitted to the league: "I didnt buy his excuse and thats what I punished him for" (paraphrased, but close enough) its obvious that there are bitter fans who wouldnt be satisfied unless all Patriots' victories were overturned, BB banned from the league, and the Rams, Panthers, and Egles crowned Superbowl champions. I hope Specter gets his wish about a full scale investigation, and we see how prominent this practice was “1. Ted Kennedy is biased towards his home team.

2. So, apparently, is this site. Instead of spending all your time slamming Specter and looking for politicians from Massachusetts (who may not be sober) to back up your claims, why not look at the real issue here: the Patriots were only punished for one instance of cheating and they need to punished for ALL of the others. Bellichick obviously knew he was breaking the rules, he tried to cover it up and he needs to be suspended. ”

1. And Specter isnt?

2. He was punished for all of it. As Goodell said after seeing all the tapes the Patriots submitted to the league: “I didnt buy his excuse and thats what I punished him for” (paraphrased, but close enough)

its obvious that there are bitter fans who wouldnt be satisfied unless all Patriots’ victories were overturned, BB banned from the league, and the Rams, Panthers, and Egles crowned Superbowl champions. I hope Specter gets his wish about a full scale investigation, and we see how prominent this practice was

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]]> By: Hadley Rille http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30490 Hadley Rille Fri, 16 May 2008 03:12:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30490 "The Senate allows the NFL an exemption from anti-trust law, and it can revoke it at any time if the NFL does not comply with the the good faith provisions of that exemption." Not quite. The Senate can't "revoke" anything, they would have to pass a new law to overturn the existing wording of the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 (which applies to more than just the NFL.) Besides, even if it were overturned it's debatable whether or not that would have any impact whatsoever on how the NFL negotiates broadcasting contracts. "Uh, Congress can involve itself in any business whenever it chooses. " I think you need to re-read the Constitution. Or perhaps read it for the first time. “The Senate allows the NFL an exemption from anti-trust law, and it can revoke it at any time if the NFL does not comply with the the good faith provisions of that exemption.”

Not quite. The Senate can’t “revoke” anything, they would have to pass a new law to overturn the existing wording of the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 (which applies to more than just the NFL.) Besides, even if it were overturned it’s debatable whether or not that would have any impact whatsoever on how the NFL negotiates broadcasting contracts.

“Uh, Congress can involve itself in any business whenever it chooses. ”

I think you need to re-read the Constitution. Or perhaps read it for the first time.

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]]> By: beselfish http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30489 beselfish Fri, 16 May 2008 03:08:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30489 So, Florio, you WANT the government to get involved? What kind of high-minded idiot are you? How in the hell can you possibly imagine that the federal government can do anything to ensure the integrity of anything on this planet? First of all, a government that regulates private industry HAS NO INTEGRITY, YOU MORON! What part of the word's individual rights and freedom do you not understand? Stick to keeping us up to date on trades, turds and T.O. tirades. Your suggestion at the end of that Kennedy post was utterly arsenine! So, Florio, you WANT the government to get involved? What kind of high-minded idiot are you? How in the hell can you possibly imagine that the federal government can do anything to ensure the integrity of anything on this planet? First of all, a government that regulates private industry HAS NO INTEGRITY, YOU MORON! What part of the word’s individual rights and freedom do you not understand?

Stick to keeping us up to date on trades, turds and T.O. tirades. Your suggestion at the end of that Kennedy post was utterly arsenine!

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]]> By: spyboots http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30480 spyboots Fri, 16 May 2008 02:27:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30480 Ha ha. How can polianeatsbabies have the gall to complain about calls against the Pats and what may have been "unfair" after the Pats cheating for 7 years! Ha ha. How can polianeatsbabies have the gall to complain about calls against the Pats and what may have been “unfair” after the Pats cheating for 7 years!

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]]> By: MmmHmmm http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30468 MmmHmmm Fri, 16 May 2008 01:23:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30468 Oh for God's sake, who really gives a rat's ass? The Patricheats got caught at something most teams do to some extent anyway. Let it go already. Oh, and the gas station near my house is already selling REGULAR at $3.99.9/gallon. Oh for God’s sake, who really gives a rat’s ass? The Patricheats got caught at something most teams do to some extent anyway. Let it go already. Oh, and the gas station near my house is already selling REGULAR at $3.99.9/gallon.

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30453 empty13 Fri, 16 May 2008 00:24:26 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30453 maryjo was prego... about 20 years ago pics surfaced of teddy on a boat nekkid with young nekkid women all over the place. senator heflin of alabama asked teddy if he had changed his position on offshore drilling. maryjo was prego…

about 20 years ago pics surfaced of teddy on a boat nekkid with young nekkid women all over the place.

senator heflin of alabama asked teddy if he had changed his position on offshore drilling.

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]]> By: wingnut http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30450 wingnut Fri, 16 May 2008 00:11:34 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30450 Hold hearings! What a waste of time and money! I forgot where dealing with politicans. Ted have a drink, but keep your pants on this time. Hold hearings! What a waste of time and money!

I forgot where dealing with politicans.

Ted have a drink, but keep your pants on this time.

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]]> By: buzzbissenger http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30447 buzzbissenger Fri, 16 May 2008 00:02:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30447 I'm so pissed, I'm gonna sh*t!! I’m so pissed, I’m gonna sh*t!!

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30446 Vox Veritas Thu, 15 May 2008 23:58:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30446 "Yes, the Pats cheated, but so does the NFL, and every team in it, at least the ones who arent so incompetent they dont try to.." Or aren't so incompetent that they get CAUGHT, perhaps. “Yes, the Pats cheated, but so does the NFL, and every team in it, at least the ones who arent so incompetent they dont try to..”

Or aren’t so incompetent that they get CAUGHT, perhaps.

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30444 Vox Veritas Thu, 15 May 2008 23:56:55 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30444 "How much better would our economy be if everyone was as wise as Kennedy?" Well there would be a lot fewer females around, for sure. “How much better would our economy be if everyone was as wise as Kennedy?”

Well there would be a lot fewer females around, for sure.

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30443 Vox Veritas Thu, 15 May 2008 23:55:28 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30443 "Some people are so naive’ as to what really goes on in all sports at the top levels." When were you ever involved in sports at the top level? “Some people are so naive’ as to what really goes on in all sports at the top levels.”

When were you ever involved in sports at the top level?

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]]> By: Old School http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30442 Old School Thu, 15 May 2008 23:54:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30442 Look on the bright side. As long as Teddy is occupied with football, he won't be doing anything else to aid the enemies of the United Staters. Look on the bright side. As long as Teddy is occupied with football, he won’t be doing anything else to aid the enemies of the United Staters.

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30441 Vox Veritas Thu, 15 May 2008 23:52:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30441 "An antitrust exemption that applies specifically to negotiating as a single entity with broadcasters. It’s quite a leap (although not an uncommon one) to infer from this that the US government can involve itself in NFL business whenever it chooses." Uh, Congress can involve itself in any business whenever it chooses. Why should the NFL get another exemption? “An antitrust exemption that applies specifically to negotiating as a single entity with broadcasters. It’s quite a leap (although not an uncommon one) to infer from this that the US government can involve itself in NFL business whenever it chooses.”

Uh, Congress can involve itself in any business whenever it chooses. Why should the NFL get another exemption?

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30440 Vox Veritas Thu, 15 May 2008 23:51:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30440 "With all due respect, you forgot Maine, which is the largest state in New England " That's like being the fastest horse at the glue factory. “With all due respect, you forgot Maine, which is the
largest state in New England ”

That’s like being the fastest horse at the glue factory.

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]]> By: zwilson http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30434 zwilson Thu, 15 May 2008 23:38:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30434 Polianeatsbabies, Are you effing kidding? The Pats were screwed by the refs? hahahahahahaahahahahaahahahahaah. That is the funniest/stupidest thing I have heard in some time. Did you happen to see the Baltimore game? Polianeatsbabies,
Are you effing kidding? The Pats were screwed by the refs? hahahahahahaahahahahaahahahahaah. That is the funniest/stupidest thing I have heard in some time.

Did you happen to see the Baltimore game?

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]]> By: roynp3 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30432 roynp3 Thu, 15 May 2008 23:29:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30432 Hey Florio, the state of Maine is also part of New England! Show some love for Vacation Land. Hey Florio, the state of Maine is also part of New England! Show some love for Vacation Land.

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]]> By: PATSFAN1 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30431 PATSFAN1 Thu, 15 May 2008 23:25:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30431 It only took 40 years but Teddy you finally said something that I agree with, even though you and the other relic should both be put out to pasture!!!!!!!! It only took 40 years but Teddy you finally said something that I agree with, even though you and the other relic should both be put out to pasture!!!!!!!!

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]]> By: Wink and the Gun http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30429 Wink and the Gun Thu, 15 May 2008 23:11:38 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30429 Revoking the anti-trust exemption is an idle threat. Nobody in Congress is stupid enough (hard as that may be to believe with some of the people in there) to try to break up the NFL. They would be out of their minds. People would be storming the capital building with torches and pitchforks. Revoking the anti-trust exemption is an idle threat. Nobody in Congress is stupid enough (hard as that may be to believe with some of the people in there) to try to break up the NFL. They would be out of their minds. People would be storming the capital building with torches and pitchforks.

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]]> By: Facts Dominio http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30425 Facts Dominio Thu, 15 May 2008 23:05:26 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30425 It seems like Florio and Polianeatsbabies have a lot in common. It seems like Florio and Polianeatsbabies have a lot in common.

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]]> By: winkel33 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30422 winkel33 Thu, 15 May 2008 22:59:47 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30422 I think politicians should stay out of sports - they dont know what they are talking about most of the time, and are more concerned with the cameras than anything else (see Roger Clemens hearing). But if they want to be involved, it should be broad issues (steroids) not singular issues (what did the Patriots do). I would be against it because I don't think it is needed, but if SPecter wanted to analyze cheating in the NFL by video or electronic equipment league wide, that would be one thing. There is plenty of evidence the Patriots were not the only team. But he isn't interested in that at all, instead he just wants to continue with his vendetta for whatever reason against the Patriots. Specter said a few months ago on Rush Limbaugh that there was a tape of the Rams practice. He clearly lied, and he clearly has no credibility. It is time more Senators other than Kennedy tell him (publicly or privately) to move on. I think politicians should stay out of sports - they dont know what they are talking about most of the time, and are more concerned with the cameras than anything else (see Roger Clemens hearing). But if they want to be involved, it should be broad issues (steroids) not singular issues (what did the Patriots do). I would be against it because I don’t think it is needed, but if SPecter wanted to analyze cheating in the NFL by video or electronic equipment league wide, that would be one thing. There is plenty of evidence the Patriots were not the only team. But he isn’t interested in that at all, instead he just wants to continue with his vendetta for whatever reason against the Patriots. Specter said a few months ago on Rush Limbaugh that there was a tape of the Rams practice. He clearly lied, and he clearly has no credibility. It is time more Senators other than Kennedy tell him (publicly or privately) to move on.

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]]> By: FreeAgentPro http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30420 FreeAgentPro Thu, 15 May 2008 22:56:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30420 “The NFL enjoys an antitrust exemption,” "An antitrust exemption that applies specifically to negotiating as a single entity with broadcasters. It’s quite a leap (although not an uncommon one) to infer from this that the US government can involve itself in NFL business whenever it chooses." It might be an uncommon leap of intelligence for you to investigate the TV anti-trust provision. The Senate allows the NFL an exemption from anti-trust law, and it can revoke it at any time if the NFL does not comply with the the good faith provisions of that exemption. You don't get exemptions from the federal government without strings attached. If the NFL violates the public trust through unethical behavior ( does not have to be illegal to be unethical), the government has the right to void the exemption. That would probably reduce the league to maybe 6 or 8 metropolitan teams. “The NFL enjoys an antitrust exemption,”

“An antitrust exemption that applies specifically to negotiating as a single entity with broadcasters. It’s quite a leap (although not an uncommon one) to infer from this that the US government can involve itself in NFL business whenever it chooses.”

It might be an uncommon leap of intelligence for you to investigate the TV anti-trust provision. The Senate allows the NFL an exemption from anti-trust law, and it can revoke it at any time if the NFL does not comply with the the good faith provisions of that exemption. You don’t get exemptions from the federal government without strings attached. If the NFL violates the public trust through unethical behavior ( does not have to be illegal to be unethical), the government has the right to void the exemption. That would probably reduce the league to maybe 6 or 8 metropolitan teams.

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]]> By: Hadley Rille http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30415 Hadley Rille Thu, 15 May 2008 22:48:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30415 "How much better would our economy be if everyone was as wise as Kennedy?" Bwhahahahahahahahahha. You crack me up, sir. I, for one, am glad we haven't adopted wholesale socialism at home and appeasement to communist dictatorships abroad. Kennedy is right about this Pats thing, but it's perhaps the first thing he's been right about in several decades. “How much better would our economy be if everyone was as wise as Kennedy?”

Bwhahahahahahahahahha. You crack me up, sir. I, for one, am glad we haven’t adopted wholesale socialism at home and appeasement to communist dictatorships abroad.

Kennedy is right about this Pats thing, but it’s perhaps the first thing he’s been right about in several decades.

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]]> By: screaming sheep http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30414 screaming sheep Thu, 15 May 2008 22:45:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30414 Horse...Beaten.....Dead Horse…Beaten…..Dead

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]]> By: sonnyandsam http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30409 sonnyandsam Thu, 15 May 2008 22:41:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30409 Oh my god....hell must be freezing over. For the first time in my life, I agree with Teddy Kennedy! Congress has no business in the NFL business. IF the fans think the NFL is tolerating cheating, then the fans can stay home. The NFL is a PRIVATE company and the only ones with any true right to complain are the team owners. Like a scolding from Arlen Specter means more than losing your first round draft pick and $500,000. The media and Patriot haters need to get a life. (for the record, I am not a Patriot fan) Oh my god….hell must be freezing over. For the first time in my life, I agree with Teddy Kennedy!

Congress has no business in the NFL business. IF the fans think the NFL is tolerating cheating, then the fans can stay home. The NFL is a PRIVATE company and the only ones with any true right to complain are the team owners.

Like a scolding from Arlen Specter means more than losing your first round draft pick and $500,000.

The media and Patriot haters need to get a life.

(for the record, I am not a Patriot fan)

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]]> By: polianeatsbabies http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30401 polianeatsbabies Thu, 15 May 2008 22:23:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30401 If he was a diehard Patsfan, Florio also might have pointed out the way the NFL ignored Polians emphasis on PIs/ICs during the 2nd half of last season in Pats games anytime Pats receivers were getting mugged...The Ravens committed PI/IC all game on MNF vs NE, and when the refs actually called them for 1 of them many they clearly committed, they accused the refs of cheating for the Pats..Ed Reed committed uncalled PI one play before a Raven teammate, Ivy, if memory serves, mugged Welker, knocking the ball up in the air which E.Reed recovered. Both of those plays should have been Raven penalties...Let alone the OPI they let Mason get away with on Asante on the actual final Raven hail mary of that game. If the refs had not been cheating against NE to prevent the public from taking these proPats conspiracy theories to another level, if for no other reason, the Ravens would have been called for IC/PI throughout that game, because Ray Lewis himself admitted they had kept their hands on Patriot wrs "Up&down the field" during his motivational speech to the SD Chargers given which was aired a few hours before the 2007-08 AFC Champ Game on ESPN's NFL Countdown. Under Polians rules, you cant touch a WR beyond 5yds of the LOS, unless apparently that WR wears Patscolors. How is it legal to do it against NE but not against Indy? If Florio were a Pats fan hed have shown a little more interest in the penalty disparity between the Pats&Colts last nov4. Why in Wk17 did the refs allow Gibril Wilson to knock R.Moss unconscious with a helmet to helmet hit while Moss was running a route, looking away from Wilson, and Brady hadnt/didnt thrown it to him? If he was a diehard Patsfan, Florio also might have pointed out the way the NFL ignored Polians emphasis on PIs/ICs during the 2nd half of last season in Pats games anytime Pats receivers were getting mugged…The Ravens committed PI/IC all game on MNF vs NE, and when the refs actually called them for 1 of them many they clearly committed, they accused the refs of cheating for the Pats..Ed Reed committed uncalled PI one play before a Raven teammate, Ivy, if memory serves, mugged Welker, knocking the ball up in the air which E.Reed recovered. Both of those plays should have been Raven penalties…Let alone the OPI they let Mason get away with on Asante on the actual final Raven hail mary of that game. If the refs had not been cheating against NE to prevent the public from taking these proPats conspiracy theories to another level, if for no other reason, the Ravens would have been called for IC/PI throughout that game, because Ray Lewis himself admitted they had kept their hands on Patriot wrs “Up&down the field” during his motivational speech to the SD Chargers given which was aired a few hours before the 2007-08 AFC Champ Game on ESPN’s NFL Countdown. Under Polians rules, you cant touch a WR beyond 5yds of the LOS, unless apparently that WR wears Patscolors. How is it legal to do it against NE but not against Indy?

If Florio were a Pats fan hed have shown a little more interest in the penalty disparity between the Pats&Colts last nov4.

Why in Wk17 did the refs allow Gibril Wilson to knock R.Moss unconscious with a helmet to helmet hit while Moss was running a route, looking away from Wilson, and Brady hadnt/didnt thrown it to him?

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]]> By: Skocpol http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30398 Skocpol Thu, 15 May 2008 22:16:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30398 Whether or not Kennedy is biased, the fact that he is a leading Democratic Senator on Specter's committee is very relevant. As a member of the Minority party, Specter has no power to call hearings. He needs Democratic support. I doubt very much he will get support from ANY other Senator for this. People know he is a bit addled on the whole topic, and they would just subject Congress to ridicule if they got it involved in an internal NFL discplinary matter where no illegal conduct (like steroids) is involved. The entire "Spygate" thing, since September when the penalty was appropriately levied on the Patriots, has been pure media hype interacting with Matt Walsh's mendacity. Congress will not wander into that. Whether or not Kennedy is biased, the fact that he is a leading Democratic Senator on Specter’s committee is very relevant. As a member of the Minority party, Specter has no power to call hearings. He needs Democratic support. I doubt very much he will get support from ANY other Senator for this. People know he is a bit addled on the whole topic, and they would just subject Congress to ridicule if they got it involved in an internal NFL discplinary matter where no illegal conduct (like steroids) is involved. The entire “Spygate” thing, since September when the penalty was appropriately levied on the Patriots, has been pure media hype interacting with Matt Walsh’s mendacity. Congress will not wander into that.

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]]> By: polianeatsbabies http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30393 polianeatsbabies Thu, 15 May 2008 22:03:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30393 You guys who think Florio is a Patsfan are retards..You Pats haters just cant handle it after being brainwashed by ESPN to see someone who actually presents the Pats side of the story as well as the other side... Florios pointing out how much of a hypocrite Schlereth is for example, doesnt require him being a Patsfan, it requires him being objective, rational, and intelligent, but what would many of you Patshaters know about that...You somehow would have us believe those videotapes made GW FGs against the Rams, Panthers, and Raiders, and BTW, youve all been calling the Pats cheaters ever since the tuck anyways, so I dont see how spygate changes anything... If Florio was a Patsfan, he would have been pointing out all the holding the NFL refuses to call on Patriots opponents OLs, like when the refs let Vrabel get horsecollared on would be sacks 3 times in a 6play span in midseason last yr, causing an injury to his arm/shoulder that plagued him all the way thru the SB... If Florio was a Patsfan, he woulda said something about the fact that the refs let Roy Williams horse collar Ben Watson and didnt call him for the penalty, injuring Watsons ankleso badly that he wont be healed until this summer. Yes, the Pats cheated, but so does the NFL, and every team in it, at least the ones who arent so incompetent they dont try to.. You guys who think Florio is a Patsfan are retards..You Pats haters just cant handle it after being brainwashed by ESPN to see someone who actually presents the Pats side of the story as well as the other side…

Florios pointing out how much of a hypocrite Schlereth is for example, doesnt require him being a Patsfan, it requires him being objective, rational, and intelligent, but what would many of you Patshaters know about that…You somehow would have us believe those videotapes made GW FGs against the Rams, Panthers, and Raiders, and BTW, youve all been calling the Pats cheaters ever since the tuck anyways, so I dont see how spygate changes anything…

If Florio was a Patsfan, he would have been pointing out all the holding the NFL refuses to call on Patriots opponents OLs, like when the refs let Vrabel get horsecollared on would be sacks 3 times in a 6play span in midseason last yr, causing an injury to his arm/shoulder that plagued him all the way thru the SB…

If Florio was a Patsfan, he woulda said something about the fact that the refs let Roy Williams horse collar Ben Watson and didnt call him for the penalty, injuring Watsons ankleso badly that he wont be healed until this summer.

Yes, the Pats cheated, but so does the NFL, and every team in it, at least the ones who arent so incompetent they dont try to..

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]]> By: bledsoe9mm9 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30390 bledsoe9mm9 Thu, 15 May 2008 22:01:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30390 Ted Kennedy is still alive ? I thought he drank himself to death 10 years ago Ted Kennedy is still alive ? I thought he drank himself to death 10 years ago

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]]> By: Facts Dominio http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30388 Facts Dominio Thu, 15 May 2008 22:00:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30388 Teddy Kennedy & Sloshed Kraft Over & Under shared drinks together? 10,389 Over! Teddy Kennedy & Sloshed Kraft

Over & Under shared drinks together? 10,389

Over!

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]]> By: gibsonplyer http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30386 gibsonplyer Thu, 15 May 2008 21:58:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30386 Until the Senate actually does something important they all need to shut up. And Florio I still say the punishment handed down was weak. As much as I hate to say it I agree with ESPN you suspend players why not the coach? They CHEATED for 6-7 years undermining the game in the process and got slapped on the wrist. The fines were pocket change especially since he got a brand spankin new contract afterward and the 1st round pick loss didn't mean squat when they still got to pick in the TOP 10. He knew what he was doing. He knew what he was doing was wrong. He did it for years so it wasn't just one isolated crime and as the ONLY organization punishing him (unlike when both the law and league are punishing players) he should have come down harder especially if they are supposed to be held to a 'higher standard.' Until the Senate actually does something important they all need to shut up.

And Florio I still say the punishment handed down was weak. As much as I hate to say it I agree with ESPN you suspend players why not the coach? They CHEATED for 6-7 years undermining the game in the process and got slapped on the wrist. The fines were pocket change especially since he got a brand spankin new contract afterward and the 1st round pick loss didn’t mean squat when they still got to pick in the TOP 10. He knew what he was doing. He knew what he was doing was wrong. He did it for years so it wasn’t just one isolated crime and as the ONLY organization punishing him (unlike when both the law and league are punishing players) he should have come down harder especially if they are supposed to be held to a ‘higher standard.’

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]]> By: brian_21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30384 brian_21 Thu, 15 May 2008 21:56:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30384 Grulks, that statement saying Ted Kennedy is as irrelevant as Arlen Specter doesn't make too much sense. They are both extremely relevant, with a lot of power. Plus, for all those bashing Kennedy, I, too, am sickened by his actions back in the day. But all that can't be changed now. Just never forget. And his reputation for sure should be tainted because of his idiotic actions. He's made up for that the best he can, though. Twenty-three in the Senate out of 100 voted against the war in Iraq. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&vote=00237&session=2 Ted Kennedy was one of them. (Specter was not one of them.) How much better would our economy be if everyone was as wise as Kennedy? (Yeah, gotta fix the sub-prime mortgage crisis, too) How many lives would have been spared if everyone listened to Kennedy? Grulks, that statement saying Ted Kennedy is as irrelevant as Arlen Specter doesn’t make too much sense. They are both extremely relevant, with a lot of power.

Plus, for all those bashing Kennedy, I, too, am sickened by his actions back in the day. But all that can’t be changed now. Just never forget. And his reputation for sure should be tainted because of his idiotic actions. He’s made up for that the best he can, though.

Twenty-three in the Senate out of 100 voted against the war in Iraq.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&vote=00237&session=2

Ted Kennedy was one of them.

(Specter was not one of them.)

How much better would our economy be if everyone was as wise as Kennedy? (Yeah, gotta fix the sub-prime mortgage crisis, too)

How many lives would have been spared if everyone listened to Kennedy?

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]]> By: 3efin http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30382 3efin Thu, 15 May 2008 21:53:20 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30382 bondem777, a Passionate Fan, says: 2. .... why not look at the real issue here: the Patriots were only punished for one instance of cheating and they need to punished for ALL of the others. So bondem777.....I think that you got part of it right. The Patriots were punished for one instance of cheating. They need to look into, and punish for all of the violations....BY ALL THE TEAMS!!!! That's right.... All the teams. Don't just investigate everything that the Patriots have done. Find out what other teams were also violating the rules. If that happened, there might only be three or four teams drafting in the first round next year. Some people are so naive' as to what really goes on in all sports at the top levels. bondem777, a Passionate Fan, says:
2. …. why not look at the real issue here: the Patriots were only punished for one instance of cheating and they need to punished for ALL of the others.

So bondem777…..I think that you got part of it right. The Patriots were punished for one instance of cheating. They need to look into, and punish for all of the violations….BY ALL THE TEAMS!!!!

That’s right…. All the teams. Don’t just investigate everything that the Patriots have done. Find out what other teams were also violating the rules. If that happened, there might only be three or four teams drafting in the first round next year.

Some people are so naive’ as to what really goes on in all sports at the top levels.

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]]> By: josereyes0 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30380 josereyes0 Thu, 15 May 2008 21:52:10 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30380 Yes, Mike Florio, the same game who said Logan Mankins was a 'solid player' after being the best Left Guard in the game last year. Yes, Mike Florio, the same game who said Logan Mankins was a ’solid player’ after being the best Left Guard in the game last year.

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]]> By: vincelombardi http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30375 vincelombardi Thu, 15 May 2008 21:46:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30375 yeah i'll tell you what they ought to be investigating is people driving drunk, wrecking, leaving passengers in the car while you run home to make an alibi and then get away scott free with dui, dwi, vehicular homicide.....not to mention traitorous activity as a senator.... yeah i’ll tell you what they ought to be investigating is people driving drunk, wrecking, leaving passengers in the car while you run home to make an alibi and then get away scott free with dui, dwi, vehicular homicide…..not to mention traitorous activity as a senator….

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]]> By: CleveBrownie http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30371 CleveBrownie Thu, 15 May 2008 21:41:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30371 Specter has always been a pompous windbag; he's now just a blustering gasbag. Fits in so well with the rest of the US senate, which is comprised mostly of shitbags. Specter has always been a pompous windbag; he’s now just a blustering gasbag. Fits in so well with the rest of the US senate, which is comprised mostly of shitbags.

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]]> By: LuvThatDirtyWatah http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30369 LuvThatDirtyWatah Thu, 15 May 2008 21:34:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30369 This is the first time in my 42 years on this planet that I agree my with my senator: Ted-Hiccup Kennedy. It'll prolly be the last too. Sphincter says what? (senator sphincter, that is). This is the first time in my 42 years on this planet that I agree my with my senator: Ted-Hiccup Kennedy. It’ll prolly be the last too.

Sphincter says what? (senator sphincter, that is).

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]]> By: bondem777 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30368 bondem777 Thu, 15 May 2008 21:32:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30368 1. Ted Kennedy is biased towards his home team. 2. So, apparently, is this site. Instead of spending all your time slamming Specter and looking for politicians from Massachusetts (who may not be sober) to back up your claims, why not look at the real issue here: the Patriots were only punished for one instance of cheating and they need to punished for ALL of the others. Bellichick obviously knew he was breaking the rules, he tried to cover it up and he needs to be suspended. 1. Ted Kennedy is biased towards his home team.

2. So, apparently, is this site. Instead of spending all your time slamming Specter and looking for politicians from Massachusetts (who may not be sober) to back up your claims, why not look at the real issue here: the Patriots were only punished for one instance of cheating and they need to punished for ALL of the others. Bellichick obviously knew he was breaking the rules, he tried to cover it up and he needs to be suspended.

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]]> By: PFT Planet Idiot http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30364 PFT Planet Idiot Thu, 15 May 2008 21:27:47 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30364 Arlen Spector, Ted Kennedy...who is next Robert Byrd talking about the Klan. If I wanted politics I would turn on Foxnews. Arlen Spector, Ted Kennedy…who is next Robert Byrd talking about the Klan. If I wanted politics I would turn on Foxnews.

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]]> By: Hadley Rille http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30352 Hadley Rille Thu, 15 May 2008 21:19:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30352 While I agree with Kennedy's argument, the Senate has no Constitutional authority over anything other than first item on his list. And as bad as Specter is, as far as I know he didn't conspire with an enemy government to try to influence US presidential elections. "The NFL enjoys an antitrust exemption," An antitrust exemption that applies specifically to negotiating as a single entity with broadcasters. It's quite a leap (although not an uncommon one) to infer from this that the US government can involve itself in NFL business whenever it chooses. "the owners and players reap billions of dollars from American citizens who follow the sport. " Which has exactly nothing to do with Specter's authority in this matter (or lack thereof.) While I agree with Kennedy’s argument, the Senate has no Constitutional authority over anything other than first item on his list. And as bad as Specter is, as far as I know he didn’t conspire with an enemy government to try to influence US presidential elections.

“The NFL enjoys an antitrust exemption,”

An antitrust exemption that applies specifically to negotiating as a single entity with broadcasters. It’s quite a leap (although not an uncommon one) to infer from this that the US government can involve itself in NFL business whenever it chooses.

“the owners and players reap billions of dollars from American citizens who follow the sport. ”

Which has exactly nothing to do with Specter’s authority in this matter (or lack thereof.)

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]]> By: JaguarsSunday http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30351 JaguarsSunday Thu, 15 May 2008 21:17:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30351 Seriously? Are you going to listen to Saddam's opinion on Iraq? Seriously? Are you going to listen to Saddam’s opinion on Iraq?

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]]> By: skaybaltimore http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30347 skaybaltimore Thu, 15 May 2008 21:15:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30347 Specter and Kennedy -- it's like dumb and dumber. But with regard to why others in Congress might not be chomping at the bit to see that the investigation goes further -- is it just tin-foil thinking to ponder that maybe it's because nobody wants THEIR team/state to be the next one to be possibly caught up in the dragnet? Specter and Kennedy — it’s like dumb and dumber. But with regard to why others in Congress might not be chomping at the bit to see that the investigation goes further — is it just tin-foil thinking to ponder that maybe it’s because nobody wants THEIR team/state to be the next one to be possibly caught up in the dragnet?

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]]> By: MTardiff http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30343 MTardiff Thu, 15 May 2008 21:10:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30343 With all due respect, you forgot Maine, which is the largest state in New England (You also forgot Connecticut). Actually, no one but the folks from CT or RI consider people from either of those states real New Englanders. With all due respect, you forgot Maine, which is the
largest state in New England (You also forgot
Connecticut). Actually, no one but the folks from CT or
RI consider people from either of those states real
New Englanders.

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]]> By: anthonyf http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30342 anthonyf Thu, 15 May 2008 21:10:41 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/kennedy-slams-specter/#comment-30342 Why don't we just ask osama obama, obama bin laden, I mean osama obama - hiccup... Nevermind. Why don’t we just ask osama obama, obama bin laden, I mean osama obama - hiccup… Nevermind.

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