Comments on: DABOLL RECALLS NOTHING, AS MARTZ CHIMES IN

Comments on: DABOLL RECALLS NOTHING, AS MARTZ CHIMES IN http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Sun, 07 Sep 2008 11:40:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: BBrophy1 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30730 BBrophy1 Fri, 16 May 2008 14:51:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30730 I'm not a Martz fan but this its tough to argue with him on this one. Before Martz made his comments I highly doubted that a guy who's job description includes covert operations would ever wear anything identifying his affiliation. He probably only shows his team ID badge upon security's request and keeps it in his wallet while most guys wear it around their neck. Wouldn't you want to keep the lowest profile as possible in his position? I’m not a Martz fan but this its tough to argue with him on this one. Before Martz made his comments I highly doubted that a guy who’s job description includes covert operations would ever wear anything identifying his affiliation. He probably only shows his team ID badge upon security’s request and keeps it in his wallet while most guys wear it around their neck. Wouldn’t you want to keep the lowest profile as possible in his position?

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]]> By: Referee http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30723 Referee Fri, 16 May 2008 14:42:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30723 Mike 'The Genius' Martz, showed some class in what he said... He didn't get caught up in the mud slinging... Outcoached? perhaps, yet he underutilized his most valuable ace in the hole Marshall Faulk. Why he didn't run Marshall everywhich way but loose is beyond me... It may be have been the deciding factor in the loss. Personally, the reason I believe the Rams lost was when the late owner of the St. Louis Rams Georgia Frontiere, came out after the NFC Championship game and started talking about the design of the Super Bowl ring two weeks before they ever played the game...? Well in my opinion, she p-i-s-s-e-d off the football gods. Moral of the story? Never design your championship rings before its time... Mike ‘The Genius’ Martz, showed some class in what he said… He didn’t get caught up in the mud slinging… Outcoached? perhaps, yet he underutilized his most valuable ace in the hole Marshall Faulk. Why he didn’t run Marshall everywhich way but loose is beyond me… It may be have been the deciding factor in the loss. Personally, the reason I believe the Rams lost was when the late owner of the St. Louis Rams Georgia Frontiere, came out after the NFC Championship game and started talking about the design of the Super Bowl ring two weeks before they ever played the game…? Well in my opinion, she p-i-s-s-e-d off the football gods. Moral of the story? Never design your championship rings before its time…

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]]> By: Zerfas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30669 Zerfas Fri, 16 May 2008 13:55:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30669 At the end of the day, Martz prolly is right that they would have spotted someone on the sidelines in Pats apparel. If Walsh was there I doubt he was advertising his presence by wearing a Pats sweatshirt. That said, Patrick and Good Newz Kennels are dead on, Martz got flat-out out-coached by Hoodie. At the end of the day, Martz prolly is right that they would have spotted someone on the sidelines in Pats apparel. If Walsh was there I doubt he was advertising his presence by wearing a Pats sweatshirt.

That said, Patrick and Good Newz Kennels are dead on, Martz got flat-out out-coached by Hoodie.

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]]> By: Mike in Ia http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30643 Mike in Ia Fri, 16 May 2008 13:27:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30643 If teasing a SB win and just ebing competitive were enough then the Vikings and the Bills should have been some of the most profitable franchises but I do not think that is/was the case. If teasing a SB win and just ebing competitive were enough then the Vikings and the Bills should have been some of the most profitable franchises but I do not think that is/was the case.

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]]> By: monger http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30639 monger Fri, 16 May 2008 13:24:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30639 This is a good sign from Daboll. Once you drill down to the people who say "I don't remember" then you know this bullcrap is finally winding down. This is a good sign from Daboll. Once you drill down to the people who say “I don’t remember” then you know this bullcrap is finally winding down.

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30617 empty13 Fri, 16 May 2008 12:56:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30617 st. dungy is quiet now because he is behind the scenes trying ot keep marvingate from getting all (thanks emmitt) blow'd up. st. dungy is quiet now because he is behind the scenes trying ot keep marvingate from getting all (thanks emmitt) blow’d up.

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]]> By: MarkB http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30532 MarkB Fri, 16 May 2008 04:59:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30532 Protecting their own asses is also high on their list. Have the reporters in your town asked your coaches on the record whether they ever stole signals? Ever taped signals? I'm still waiting for the first one to ask. But then if they did, they'd be on the team shit list, wouldn't they? The rest of the league is afraid that some former employee of theirs will do the same thing that Walsh did. The Commissioner certainly hasnt' asked the rest of the league to come clean. If he did, and they lied and it came out later, they'd have to be punished worse than Belichick, no? Each time you give a new warning, the punishment has to go up a notch. That's why the league wants it to go away - it can only get worse. Protecting their own asses is also high on their list. Have the reporters in your town asked your coaches on the record whether they ever stole signals? Ever taped signals? I’m still waiting for the first one to ask. But then if they did, they’d be on the team shit list, wouldn’t they? The rest of the league is afraid that some former employee of theirs will do the same thing that Walsh did. The Commissioner certainly hasnt’ asked the rest of the league to come clean. If he did, and they lied and it came out later, they’d have to be punished worse than Belichick, no? Each time you give a new warning, the punishment has to go up a notch. That’s why the league wants it to go away - it can only get worse.

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]]> By: bradyswingman http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30530 bradyswingman Fri, 16 May 2008 04:56:21 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30530 Except for St. Dungy who takes every opportunity to slag the evil Patriots. Maybe he's auditioning for a spot on ESPN when he retires at the end of the season. Except for St. Dungy who takes every opportunity to slag the evil Patriots. Maybe he’s auditioning for a spot on ESPN when he retires at the end of the season.

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]]> By: Good Newz Kennels http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30522 Good Newz Kennels Fri, 16 May 2008 04:37:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30522 You misquoted Mr. Martz. He actually said: “Let me make this clear – we lost to the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl because I refused to call running plays against a dime defense.” You misquoted Mr. Martz. He actually said: “Let me make this clear – we lost to the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl because I refused to call running plays against a dime defense.”

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]]> By: drhanniballector http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30510 drhanniballector Fri, 16 May 2008 03:59:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30510 right on point, vox. remember the nfl is now run by business people. it started out mom and pop but is now run by the suits. and the suits only care about the bottom line. even those who may have been cheated against care less about the injustice of that than they do about the overall bottom line of their investment in the league as a whole. if it really was about winning and not business, the rams, panthers and eagles would throwing serious FITS! i can't opine on the rams nor the panthers, but the eagles i can. from day 1 it's been about the charts and graphs and the bottom line in philly under lurie/banner/reid. the dirty secret that most fans don't get about nfl owners is that it's actually more profitable to not win the superbowl. it's more profitable to field a team perpetually, technically, competetive than it is to accept the bell curve up being high when you win a championship and then the low end of the bell curve money-wise through rebuilding. overall you actually make more money not putting out all the stops but just remaining competetive enough. in other words, it's ironically more profitable to never win and to tease, than it is to win and then rebuild. the greater moral of the story being that it's not about the desire and passion of winning and the civic pride that comes from that; it's about what chart and what graph dictates how your spread sheet looks. that's the eagles, and it's also the modern day nfl. hence the collective protection of the patriots of teams who were cheated against by them. and they really do think we're too stooopit to notice. if it really was about the passion of winning, it wouldn't be arlen spector raising crap; it'd be jeff lurie. where's lurie? right on point, vox.

remember the nfl is now run by business people. it started out mom and pop but is now run by the suits. and the suits only care about the bottom line. even those who may have been cheated against care less about the injustice of that than they do about the overall bottom line of their investment in the league as a whole.

if it really was about winning and not business, the rams, panthers and eagles would throwing serious FITS!

i can’t opine on the rams nor the panthers, but the eagles i can.

from day 1 it’s been about the charts and graphs and the bottom line in philly under lurie/banner/reid. the dirty secret that most fans don’t get about nfl owners is that it’s actually more profitable to not win the superbowl. it’s more profitable to field a team perpetually, technically, competetive than it is to accept the bell curve up being high when you win a championship and then the low end of the bell curve money-wise through rebuilding. overall you actually make more money not putting out all the stops but just remaining competetive enough.

in other words, it’s ironically more profitable to never win and to tease, than it is to win and then rebuild.

the greater moral of the story being that it’s not about the desire and passion of winning and the civic pride that comes from that; it’s about what chart and what graph dictates how your spread sheet looks. that’s the eagles, and it’s also the modern day nfl. hence the collective protection of the patriots of teams who were cheated against by them. and they really do think we’re too stooopit to notice.

if it really was about the passion of winning, it wouldn’t be arlen spector raising crap; it’d be jeff lurie.

where’s lurie?

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]]> By: Space Bandito http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30506 Space Bandito Fri, 16 May 2008 03:55:23 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30506 Deep breath Vox. Did you ever stop to think (try), that this whole thing might not be a big deal. What is there to bury? The story has been out for years if you were paying attention to anything beyond Sportscenter. Players think it is a big joke. Owners, yes care about money. Head Coaches, probably care about themselves. I hear another X-files movie is coming out. Perhaps Belichick will have a cameo. Jeez people. Deep breath Vox. Did you ever stop to think (try), that this whole thing might not be a big deal. What is there to bury? The story has been out for years if you were paying attention to anything beyond Sportscenter.

Players think it is a big joke. Owners, yes care about money. Head Coaches, probably care about themselves.

I hear another X-files movie is coming out. Perhaps Belichick will have a cameo. Jeez people.

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]]> By: Patrick http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30499 Patrick Fri, 16 May 2008 03:42:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30499 “Let me make this clear – we lost to the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl because we turned the ball over three times,” Martz said...he forgot to mention he was outcoached too...watch out 49ers, he also tends to forget he's not head coach anymore haaaa “Let me make this clear – we lost to the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl because we turned the ball over three times,” Martz said…he forgot to mention he was outcoached too…watch out 49ers, he also tends to forget he’s not head coach anymore haaaa

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30493 Vox Veritas Fri, 16 May 2008 03:24:23 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30493 Protecting the league's ability to generate money is very high on the list of priorities for every team. Not a single NFL owner, not one GM, head coach or any other front office employee wants anything but to bury Spygate as quickly as possible right now. Protecting the league’s ability to generate money is very high on the list of priorities for every team. Not a single NFL owner, not one GM, head coach or any other front office employee wants anything but to bury Spygate as quickly as possible right now.

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]]> By: Space Bandito http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30484 Space Bandito Fri, 16 May 2008 02:59:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30484 Martz should run for the Senate! Martz should run for the Senate!

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]]> By: Simdogga77 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30483 Simdogga77 Fri, 16 May 2008 02:57:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/15/daboll-recalls-nothing-as-martz-chimes-in/#comment-30483 As a Pats fan I love the fact that NO OTHER TEAM has come out against them. NOT ONE! As a Pats fan I love the fact that NO OTHER TEAM has come out against them. NOT ONE!

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