Comments on: URLACHER CONTINUES TO TELL EVERYONE HE’S SKIPPING MINICAMP http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:12:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: wingnut http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29788 wingnut Thu, 15 May 2008 01:33:49 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29788 What's up with all this skipping? Are they skipping down to 7/11 for some pink lemonade? What’s up with all this skipping? Are they skipping down to 7/11 for some pink lemonade?

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]]> By: wingnut http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29780 wingnut Thu, 15 May 2008 01:20:49 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29780 Urlacher,Stinko, skipping? Whats? really going on? Urlacher,Stinko, skipping? Whats? really going on?

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]]> By: Tim http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29709 Tim Wed, 14 May 2008 22:53:34 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29709 I want an NFL player to realize what it's like to actually work for a living. Just one. Really. Go get a summer job where it takes two months to earn 8K. Life must be tough in your 10,000 square foot mansion and your ability to fill your cars gas tank w/o having to sacrafice paying another bill. Man do I feel bad for you... I want an NFL player to realize what it’s like to actually work for a living. Just one. Really. Go get a summer job where it takes two months to earn 8K.

Life must be tough in your 10,000 square foot mansion and your ability to fill your cars gas tank w/o having to sacrafice paying another bill. Man do I feel bad for you…

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]]> By: FloriosPhillyFan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29626 FloriosPhillyFan Wed, 14 May 2008 20:47:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29626 I hear Urlacher and Stinko have been in touch for a few months now... I hear Urlacher and Stinko have been in touch for a few months now…

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]]> By: cantgetenough http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29554 cantgetenough Wed, 14 May 2008 19:18:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29554 My back is sweet! My back is sweet!

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29462 empty13 Wed, 14 May 2008 17:54:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29462 maybe the gould signing knocked him off dead center... maybe the gould signing knocked him off dead center…

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]]> By: monger http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29380 monger Wed, 14 May 2008 16:33:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29380 It's kind of hard to choose sides when billionaires (the owners) fight with millionaires (the players) over a very huge pie. There are a couple of things that differentiate the two. One is that the owners have a much better chance of getting a piece of the pie over the long term. Compare for example Al Davis, who has been at it since dirt was invented, as opposed to guys like Kenny Stabler, Tim Brown, and Marcus Allen, great players who have come and gone in that time. Another difference is that when the player doesn't perform he's gone. He gets whatever is guaranteed and that's it. For the owners on the other hand, just about everything they get is guaranteed. From ad revenues to revenue sharing they get what they get no matter what bonehead decisions they make and no matter how crappy they are as an owner *cough Brown family cough*. Also, the owners can piss and moan about revenue and operating expenses all they want, but not only do they make money every year from revenue, but the value of their franchise just keeps skyrocketing. The player's value peaks quickly and then fades quickly. Lastly, in any contract situation both parties are taking some risk. For the owners it is solely a financial risk. For the players, it is a financial risk but also a physical risk to their health and well being. So all in all, I'd say that players should view their contract not as an obligation to perform, but solely as means to protect the minimum they should get. It’s kind of hard to choose sides when billionaires (the owners) fight with millionaires (the players) over a very huge pie. There are a couple of things that differentiate the two. One is that the owners have a much better chance of getting a piece of the pie over the long term. Compare for example Al Davis, who has been at it since dirt was invented, as opposed to guys like Kenny Stabler, Tim Brown, and Marcus Allen, great players who have come and gone in that time.

Another difference is that when the player doesn’t perform he’s gone. He gets whatever is guaranteed and that’s it. For the owners on the other hand, just about everything they get is guaranteed. From ad revenues to revenue sharing they get what they get no matter what bonehead decisions they make and no matter how crappy they are as an owner *cough Brown family cough*.

Also, the owners can piss and moan about revenue and operating expenses all they want, but not only do they make money every year from revenue, but the value of their franchise just keeps skyrocketing. The player’s value peaks quickly and then fades quickly.

Lastly, in any contract situation both parties are taking some risk. For the owners it is solely a financial risk. For the players, it is a financial risk but also a physical risk to their health and well being.

So all in all, I’d say that players should view their contract not as an obligation to perform, but solely as means to protect the minimum they should get.

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]]> By: diehardbearsfan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29375 diehardbearsfan Wed, 14 May 2008 16:19:39 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29375 Damn, now that I know what the bears had offered him to keep him happy, I change my tune. Urlacher should have known all this when he signed his contract. The guy is a beast on the field. Not the brightest off of it. Damn, now that I know what the bears had offered him to keep him happy, I change my tune. Urlacher should have known all this when he signed his contract. The guy is a beast on the field. Not the brightest off of it.

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]]> By: brh http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29372 brh Wed, 14 May 2008 16:10:47 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29372 Very well said Mr. Alper. Nice to see someone writing for this site that can post stories about the Viking's division rivals without it being severely influenced by personal bias. You hit the nail square on the head with this issue. Urlacher has every right to ask for more money, but the Bears have no reason to offer him any more than the 1 year/$18 million extension that he turned down. Very well said Mr. Alper. Nice to see someone writing for this site that can post stories about the Viking’s division rivals without it being severely influenced by personal bias. You hit the nail square on the head with this issue. Urlacher has every right to ask for more money, but the Bears have no reason to offer him any more than the 1 year/$18 million extension that he turned down.

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]]> By: Honey Nut Florios http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29370 Honey Nut Florios Wed, 14 May 2008 16:05:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29370 Urlacher will need more than 8,000 reasons to show up. dude probably spends that in text message fees every month. Urlacher will need more than 8,000 reasons to show up. dude probably spends that in text message fees every month.

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]]> By: Jeremiah W http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29367 Jeremiah W Wed, 14 May 2008 15:54:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29367 You can not really blame him for asking for it. Who does not want a better deal? I still can not understand how Melvin Mora makes more money than Ray Lewis, or how A- Rod and certian NBA players have more gauranteed money than entire NFL rosters. These "huge" signing bonuses are only huge relative to what normal American workers make. Compared to other athletes and entertainers NFL players have the higest amount of risk for the least amount of compensation. Just because some of the top picks and top free agents get a "huge" bonus, does not mean the average guy in the NFL does. The NFLPA should be less interested in getting these guys as much money up front as possible, and work more on better long term health care and pensions. Ulacher knows there is a good chance he will not walk away from football, and may not be able to walk 10 years after he retires. I have no problem with him wanting more money, but I think the players need to take this issue up with the Union leadership and stop bitching to reporters who are not going to give them a sypathetic audience. You can not really blame him for asking for it. Who does not want a better deal?

I still can not understand how Melvin Mora makes more money than Ray Lewis, or how A- Rod and certian NBA players have more gauranteed money than entire NFL rosters.

These “huge” signing bonuses are only huge relative to what normal American workers make. Compared to other athletes and entertainers NFL players have the higest amount of risk for the least amount of compensation. Just because some of the top picks and top free agents get a “huge” bonus, does not mean the average guy in the NFL does.

The NFLPA should be less interested in getting these guys as much money up front as possible, and work more on better long term health care and pensions.

Ulacher knows there is a good chance he will not walk away from football, and may not be able to walk 10 years after he retires. I have no problem with him wanting more money, but I think the players need to take this issue up with the Union leadership and stop bitching to reporters who are not going to give them a sypathetic audience.

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]]> By: corydangerous http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29365 corydangerous Wed, 14 May 2008 15:49:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/urlacher-continues-to-tell-everyone-hes-skipping-minicamp/#comment-29365 Well he does have a pretty 'sweet back' Well he does have a pretty ’sweet back’

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