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Comments on: LEAGUE WANTS TO TALK TO DABOLL http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:37:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: monger http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-30237 monger Thu, 15 May 2008 18:58:10 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-30237 It's all a misunderstanding. They thought someone said Diabol and thought they were talking steroids. It’s all a misunderstanding. They thought someone said Diabol and thought they were talking steroids.

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]]> By: PFTiswhatitis http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29973 PFTiswhatitis Thu, 15 May 2008 13:17:55 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29973 bradtor777, a Passionate Fan, says: May 14th, 2008 at 12:47 pm You’re missing an obvious point. I believe Daboll was Tomase’s source. Daboll thought he would never be identified, and his primary objective was to keep the heat on his former employer, pursuant to the implicit or explicit instructions of Tangini. Don't you think that if that was the case the Herald would not have apologized the day after Matt Walsh met with the NFL and SPecter? Clearly Walsh was the source. bradtor777, a Passionate Fan, says:
May 14th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
You’re missing an obvious point. I believe Daboll was Tomase’s source. Daboll thought he would never be identified, and his primary objective was to keep the heat on his former employer, pursuant to the implicit or explicit instructions of Tangini.

Don’t you think that if that was the case the Herald would not have apologized the day after Matt Walsh met with the NFL and SPecter? Clearly Walsh was the source.

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]]> By: Noriega http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29551 Noriega Wed, 14 May 2008 19:17:28 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29551 Umm Florio? How could they provide evidence that something didn't happern? How does one prove a negative? Umm Florio? How could they provide evidence that something didn’t happern? How does one prove a negative?

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]]> By: mramos7392 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29403 mramos7392 Wed, 14 May 2008 16:48:33 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29403 He is the QB coach, not receivers coach He is the QB coach, not receivers coach

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]]> By: bradtor777 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29400 bradtor777 Wed, 14 May 2008 16:47:54 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29400 You're missing an obvious point. I believe Daboll was Tomase's source. Daboll thought he would never be identified, and his primary objective was to keep the heat on his former employer, pursuant to the implicit or explicit instructions of Tangini. The facts are these: Walsh videotaped nothing at the Rams walkthrough, and Tomase got the story wrong. Now we might want to ask how and by whom -- and for what reason -- Tomase was misinformed. You’re missing an obvious point. I believe Daboll was Tomase’s source. Daboll thought he would never be identified, and his primary objective was to keep the heat on his former employer, pursuant to the implicit or explicit instructions of Tangini.

The facts are these: Walsh videotaped nothing at the Rams walkthrough, and Tomase got the story wrong. Now we might want to ask how and by whom — and for what reason — Tomase was misinformed.

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]]> By: Ocean http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29399 Ocean Wed, 14 May 2008 16:46:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29399 I think that that nagging feeling will continue irregardless of what happens. I think that that nagging feeling will continue irregardless of what happens.

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]]> By: CaptainFantastik http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29362 CaptainFantastik Wed, 14 May 2008 15:45:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29362 LOL!!!!! It must suck ass to be a fan of the Cheatriots these days. The Pats can't even turn around without stepping in their own sh*t. LOL!!!!! It must suck ass to be a fan of the Cheatriots these days. The Pats can’t even turn around without stepping in their own sh*t.

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]]> By: Funny Pats Fans http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29351 Funny Pats Fans Wed, 14 May 2008 15:30:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29351 Pats fans are so cute. They're going around high-fiving now, and telling themselves the uh "haters" have been defeated ("ratsum, fratsum, those durn Patsies have foiled us again! curses!) -- when in fact they can't see the most obvious victory of all. That we know, as this site said: "First, Walsh says he was told to conceal his practice of videotaping defensive coaching signals. This directly contradicts coach Bill Belichick’s explanation that he merely misunderstood the rules. Goodell scoffed at the notion that Belichick should be subject to new punishment based on this disclosure, explaining that Goodell didn’t believe Belichick’s explanation in the first instance. Still, the message is obvious. Belichick, by all appearances, lied about his interpretation of the rules." The shame has been confirmed, the tarnish will last forever. Yippee! Pats fans are so cute. They’re going around high-fiving now, and telling themselves the uh “haters” have been defeated (”ratsum, fratsum, those durn Patsies have foiled us again! curses!) — when in fact they can’t see the most obvious victory of all. That we know, as this site said:

“First, Walsh says he was told to conceal his practice of videotaping defensive coaching signals. This directly contradicts coach Bill Belichick’s explanation that he merely misunderstood the rules. Goodell scoffed at the notion that Belichick should be subject to new punishment based on this disclosure, explaining that Goodell didn’t believe Belichick’s explanation in the first instance.

Still, the message is obvious. Belichick, by all appearances, lied about his interpretation of the rules.”

The shame has been confirmed, the tarnish will last forever. Yippee!

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]]> By: kate773 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29337 kate773 Wed, 14 May 2008 15:12:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29337 The problem, Mike, is that there are people who will never be satisfied no matter what answers they get. The more answers that come out, the more questions they will ask. And its really for no other reason than they want to be the one who breaks the big story open on the Pats. Oh, they'll tell themselves and everyone else that they're just trying to be thorough and they just want the truth, but this is frankly turning into a witch hunt. You have to admit the level of hatred and scorn that the Patriots have had leveled at them has reached ridiculous heights. I fully admit I am a biased Pats fan, but I think this has gotten out of control. I'm pretty sure if the same level of investigation and scrutiny was leveled on any other team in the league, you'd find rule violations hiding in their closets as well. The Patriots brought this scrutiny upon themselves, but I just don't see how these tapes were the reason they've been so good. They weren't used in game, so that argument goes out the window. Does anyone really truly think the existence of these tapes were the reason they've been successful? If you're going to point to close wins, I remind you these tapes weren't used in game. And if you're going to do that, then I guess we'll have to start scrutinizing any game by any team that ends close, huh? I mean, what were they doing that could have given them that slight advantage, there had to be something. I can't believe that what they did helped them that much. So why did they do it? Maybe because most teams are looking for any kind of advantage, as I said. They took it too far. I just feel like the Patriots have been the fall guy for everyone else and it really pisses me off. The problem, Mike, is that there are people who will never be satisfied no matter what answers they get. The more answers that come out, the more questions they will ask. And its really for no other reason than they want to be the one who breaks the big story open on the Pats. Oh, they’ll tell themselves and everyone else that they’re just trying to be thorough and they just want the truth, but this is frankly turning into a witch hunt. You have to admit the level of hatred and scorn that the Patriots have had leveled at them has reached ridiculous heights. I fully admit I am a biased Pats fan, but I think this has gotten out of control. I’m pretty sure if the same level of investigation and scrutiny was leveled on any other team in the league, you’d find rule violations hiding in their closets as well. The Patriots brought this scrutiny upon themselves, but I just don’t see how these tapes were the reason they’ve been so good. They weren’t used in game, so that argument goes out the window. Does anyone really truly think the existence of these tapes were the reason they’ve been successful? If you’re going to point to close wins, I remind you these tapes weren’t used in game. And if you’re going to do that, then I guess we’ll have to start scrutinizing any game by any team that ends close, huh? I mean, what were they doing that could have given them that slight advantage, there had to be something.

I can’t believe that what they did helped them that much. So why did they do it? Maybe because most teams are looking for any kind of advantage, as I said. They took it too far. I just feel like the Patriots have been the fall guy for everyone else and it really pisses me off.

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]]> By: ctpatsfan77 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29316 ctpatsfan77 Wed, 14 May 2008 14:41:47 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29316 As ESPN so amply showed yesterday, there's a certain percentage of people who are going to believe the Patriots "cheated" no matter what. [And, yes, "cheated" belongs in quotes; what they did is violate a rule to do something that is otherwise perfectly legal. As Tom Curran put it, it's aggravated jaywalking, not vehicular homicide.] As ESPN so amply showed yesterday, there’s a certain percentage of people who are going to believe the Patriots “cheated” no matter what.

[And, yes, “cheated” belongs in quotes; what they did is violate a rule to do something that is otherwise perfectly legal. As Tom Curran put it, it’s aggravated jaywalking, not vehicular homicide.]

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]]> By: stanjam http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29313 stanjam Wed, 14 May 2008 14:40:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29313 Yes, and let's not foget that they should also still be investigating, trying to find out who was spying on the Patriots practices before the superbowl! What? You didn't know that the NFL officials SAW someone spying on the Pats practices? It was reported in the New York Times after all. Oh wait, the media doesn't care about that. The media only cares about the Pats seeing a walkthrough. That is, even though I have heard some former coaches say you can tape every walkthrough they ever did, it won't help you. If it would, why are the Rams stupid enough to allow Pats personnel on the field. If they did allow it, you can't take anything from that session for your preparation, as it may be disinformation just as much as genuine information. So the whole thing is, well, bogus, and a waste of resources...unless you are an ex-Jets employee with an agenda and an axe to grind. Yes, and let’s not foget that they should also still be investigating, trying to find out who was spying on the Patriots practices before the superbowl! What? You didn’t know that the NFL officials SAW someone spying on the Pats practices? It was reported in the New York Times after all.

Oh wait, the media doesn’t care about that. The media only cares about the Pats seeing a walkthrough. That is, even though I have heard some former coaches say you can tape every walkthrough they ever did, it won’t help you. If it would, why are the Rams stupid enough to allow Pats personnel on the field. If they did allow it, you can’t take anything from that session for your preparation, as it may be disinformation just as much as genuine information.

So the whole thing is, well, bogus, and a waste of resources…unless you are an ex-Jets employee with an agenda and an axe to grind.

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]]> By: kellyb9 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29295 kellyb9 Wed, 14 May 2008 14:23:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29295 Doesn't matter - no rules were broken here. Even if they were, how could you possibly punish the Patriots for the non-disclosure of a Jets employee? Doesn’t matter - no rules were broken here. Even if they were, how could you possibly punish the Patriots for the non-disclosure of a Jets employee?

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]]> By: moxiejkk http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29283 moxiejkk Wed, 14 May 2008 14:08:37 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29283 Ugh... The story that won't die! Why didn't this story come up yesterday??? Ugh… The story that won’t die! Why didn’t this story come up yesterday???

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]]> By: SeanMartin http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29282 SeanMartin Wed, 14 May 2008 14:07:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29282 I THINK IT IS AMAZING THAT THEY WILL LOOK INTO THIS, JUST BECAUSE MATT WALSH SAID HE TOLD DABOLL THAT FAULK WAS GOING TO LINE UP AT RETURNER. YET, WHEN THERE IS SUSPICION OF TEAMS TAMPERING, THE LEAGUE WON'T DO A DAMN THING. THIS IS NONSENSICAL. JUST BECAUSE WALSH AND DABOLL EXCHANGED WORDS, DOESN'T MEAN ANY OF THEM WERE IN THE SUPERDOME WHILE DOING IT! GOD DAMN... I THINK IT IS AMAZING THAT THEY WILL LOOK INTO THIS, JUST BECAUSE MATT WALSH SAID HE TOLD DABOLL THAT FAULK WAS GOING TO LINE UP AT RETURNER. YET, WHEN THERE IS SUSPICION OF TEAMS TAMPERING, THE LEAGUE WON’T DO A DAMN THING. THIS IS NONSENSICAL. JUST BECAUSE WALSH AND DABOLL EXCHANGED WORDS, DOESN’T MEAN ANY OF THEM WERE IN THE SUPERDOME WHILE DOING IT! GOD DAMN…

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]]> By: kellyb9 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29276 kellyb9 Wed, 14 May 2008 13:57:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29276 Here's what I don't get - Walsh told the Pat recievers coach where he saw Marshall Faulk lining up. How does that benifit the recievers coach. Presumably, he may have passed these little tid-bits along. However, I just assumed he wasn't interested in taking advice froma sub-par cameraman. Regardless, it was arrogant and stupid of Mike Martz to run plays while Patriots employees were clearly in the stadium getting set up. Here’s what I don’t get - Walsh told the Pat recievers coach where he saw Marshall Faulk lining up. How does that benifit the recievers coach. Presumably, he may have passed these little tid-bits along. However, I just assumed he wasn’t interested in taking advice froma sub-par cameraman. Regardless, it was arrogant and stupid of Mike Martz to run plays while Patriots employees were clearly in the stadium getting set up.

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]]> By: o-face http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29271 o-face Wed, 14 May 2008 13:53:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29271 It looks like MDS has got to Florio. He's gone off the deep-end again. There was no video. Well how about tape recorder? No. Photos? No. Smoke signals? No. But you can't say for 100% that Ernie Adams doesn't have some kind of special powers? It looks like MDS has got to Florio. He’s gone off the deep-end again.

There was no video.
Well how about tape recorder?
No.
Photos?
No.
Smoke signals?
No.
But you can’t say for 100% that Ernie Adams doesn’t have some kind of special powers?

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]]> By: TLyons4 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29267 TLyons4 Wed, 14 May 2008 13:48:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29267 Since it is the Super Bowl and all, wouldn't you figure the NFL would have their own security people all over the place during the week leading up to the game? Even if they aren't watching the field 24 hours a day, maybe when one of the teams or their staff is on the field there should be a handful of NFL security agents there as well? Since it is the Super Bowl and all, wouldn’t you figure the NFL would have their own security people all over the place during the week leading up to the game? Even if they aren’t watching the field 24 hours a day, maybe when one of the teams or their staff is on the field there should be a handful of NFL security agents there as well?

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]]> By: Dan1919 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29265 Dan1919 Wed, 14 May 2008 13:47:26 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29265 We learned why Daboll got fired. If he has to ask a video guy for information he cant coach. Walsh said M Faulk was returning punts or kickoffs and a TE went left or right. He must be the new Eric Mangini understudy with that information. Sal Pal didnt laugh that off. He reported it seriously. Unbelievable. We learned why Daboll got fired. If he has to ask a video guy for information he cant coach.

Walsh said M Faulk was returning punts or kickoffs and a TE went left or right. He must be the new Eric Mangini understudy with that information.

Sal Pal didnt laugh that off. He reported it seriously.

Unbelievable.

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]]> By: brian_21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29256 brian_21 Wed, 14 May 2008 13:39:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29256 Hopefully nothing happened back in February 2002. Hopefully nothing happened back in February 2002.

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]]> By: stugacz http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29242 stugacz Wed, 14 May 2008 13:28:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29242 Enough already! All the gold in them thar hills has already been mined. What remains is merely "iron pyrite"! Finis! P.S. Definitely not a Patriots Fan....go Stillers! Enough already!

All the gold in them thar hills has already been mined.

What remains is merely “iron pyrite”!

Finis!

P.S. Definitely not a Patriots Fan….go Stillers!

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]]> By: bradyisgod http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29241 bradyisgod Wed, 14 May 2008 13:26:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29241 Fire up the congressional review board..........we have a Jet coach lying now. Fire up the congressional review board……….we have a Jet coach lying now.

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]]> By: BigD201 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29239 BigD201 Wed, 14 May 2008 13:22:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29239 The Commisioner sounded loud and clear to me in regards to the question what they were doing in the building "their job" setting up video equipment which had no power for the next day. The REAL QUESTION is why the heck would the Rams allow people in Patriot gear to be walking around the field during their walk-through. Finally if the Rams were dumb enough to let the enemy watch their walk-through then why should that infomration not have been passed along IF it was passed along. Hard to believe a Jet Assistant would not rat out the Patriots if given the opportunity. The Commisioner sounded loud and clear to me in regards to the question what they were doing in the building “their job” setting up video equipment which had no power for the next day.

The REAL QUESTION is why the heck would the Rams allow people in Patriot gear to be walking around the field during their walk-through.

Finally if the Rams were dumb enough to let the enemy watch their walk-through then why should that infomration not have been passed along IF it was passed along. Hard to believe a Jet Assistant would not rat out the Patriots if given the opportunity.

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]]> By: Casanova http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29233 Casanova Wed, 14 May 2008 13:17:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29233 Mangenius opened this can of worms... I find it funny that now HIS assistants are being re-interviewed. Mangenius opened this can of worms… I find it funny that now HIS assistants are being re-interviewed.

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]]> By: PFTiswhatitis http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29232 PFTiswhatitis Wed, 14 May 2008 13:16:40 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29232 Lame article. The NFL probably just wants to hear it from Daboll directly to clarify that everyone is on the same page. Or did Daboll outright lie to the NFL when questioned? The fact that there were Pats personnel in the dome when the Rams had their final walkthrough is not a Pats issue. The blame lies with the NFL for not scheduling and enforcing such things better and the Rams for going ahead with it. Lame article. The NFL probably just wants to hear it from Daboll directly to clarify that everyone is on the same page. Or did Daboll outright lie to the NFL when questioned?
The fact that there were Pats personnel in the dome when the Rams had their final walkthrough is not a Pats issue. The blame lies with the NFL for not scheduling and enforcing such things better and the Rams for going ahead with it.

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]]> By: nate9008 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29230 nate9008 Wed, 14 May 2008 13:15:41 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29230 wow i'm shocked a couple more spygate story's. and you say ESPN needs to talk about something else sorry but you are doin alot more talkin about it then they are. It's not even a close second wow i’m shocked a couple more spygate story’s. and you say ESPN needs to talk about something else sorry but you are doin alot more talkin about it then they are. It’s not even a close second

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]]> By: brian_21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29225 brian_21 Wed, 14 May 2008 13:08:40 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/14/league-wants-to-talk-to-daboll/#comment-29225 I just watched a hilarious episode of Arthur. DW didn't know what swears were, but she was told to say them ... so very often when she and her friends spoke, there was a bleeeeeep. WTTW on a Wednesday morning and bleeps are flying out of the television. Good times. Oh, and we all have that nagging feeling about that day in February of 2002. Here's hoping nothing happened. Time to sleep now. Peace. I just watched a hilarious episode of Arthur. DW didn’t know what swears were, but she was told to say them … so very often when she and her friends spoke, there was a bleeeeeep. WTTW on a Wednesday morning and bleeps are flying out of the television. Good times.

Oh, and we all have that nagging feeling about that day in February of 2002. Here’s hoping nothing happened.

Time to sleep now.

Peace.

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