Comments on: WALSH TAPES ARE BEING AIRED http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:12:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: kellyb9 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28750 kellyb9 Tue, 13 May 2008 19:18:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28750 As smart as BB actually is, do you think he woke up one day and said, "I should tape these signals"! As smart as BB actually is, do you think he woke up one day and said, “I should tape these signals”!

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28745 empty13 Tue, 13 May 2008 19:10:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28745 pacman jones' fans cant find tibet on a map. pacman jones’ fans cant find tibet on a map.

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]]> By: Chris from MD http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28626 Chris from MD Tue, 13 May 2008 17:21:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28626 Coolhand, you said: This goes to show how underhanded the Patriots organization has become. I would have a lot more respect for them if they came out and said “yeah we did something we shouldn’t have been doing - I accept the punishment of the League.” Instead we get “Oh….I misinterpreted the rule that clearly says no cameras or filming.” Either Bilichek is a complete idiot or he thinks the general public is to offer such nonsense and expect anybody with any reasonable intelligence to believe it. ------------ If there is no cameras or filming allowed, why is each team allowed to look at an aieral shot of the offensive/defensive lineups following each series? You clearly see this one the sidelines. How is that any different from the Pat's taping? I'm just curious to know. I mean, you see a certain setup on the field and you change the play, right? Well, you see a certain signal come in and you change the play, whats the difference? Coolhand, you said:

This goes to show how underhanded the Patriots organization has become. I would have a lot more respect for them if they came out and said “yeah we did something we shouldn’t have been doing - I accept the punishment of the League.” Instead we get “Oh….I misinterpreted the rule that clearly says no cameras or filming.” Either Bilichek is a complete idiot or he thinks the general public is to offer such nonsense and expect anybody with any reasonable intelligence to believe it.
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If there is no cameras or filming allowed, why is each team allowed to look at an aieral shot of the offensive/defensive lineups following each series? You clearly see this one the sidelines. How is that any different from the Pat’s taping? I’m just curious to know. I mean, you see a certain setup on the field and you change the play, right? Well, you see a certain signal come in and you change the play, whats the difference?

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]]> By: SeanMartin http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28622 SeanMartin Tue, 13 May 2008 17:18:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28622 How is NFLN's coverage of Goodell's press conference? Because ESPN is doing shit. How did Schlereth get his position? And Cris Carter? Come on! How is NFLN’s coverage of Goodell’s press conference? Because ESPN is doing shit. How did Schlereth get his position? And Cris Carter? Come on!

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]]> By: ken13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28612 ken13 Tue, 13 May 2008 17:12:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28612 <> Aw shucks "Funny Pats Fan"...no..actually...I am an NFL fann who plainly sees a witch hunt....and a bunch of people who know NOTHING....you being the head of the class. Keep up the hatin'....and keep trying to make something out of nothing. Prior to the warning...EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL videotaped coaches signals....FACT...admitted by some of the top former coaches in the game.....every team did it. Period. Now...the Patriots did ignore the warning and did it in the Jets game after the LEAGUE WIDE memo went out again telling everyone they could no longer do it......it was mandated not to do it any more. So yeah..the Patriots got penalized for that. But again./..and please...try to grasp it....every team did it prior to the 200 season...........and teams still did it after that too...but the Pats got caught....Mangini turned them in...even after the Pats caught him doing the same thing and didn't turn him in. Again...whatever....you haters all have your agendas..........good luck with that...but please....find a new "binky" now...maybe jump on the Arlen Specter re-election campaign...god knows he's gonna need help after his foolishess is done <>

Aw shucks “Funny Pats Fan”…no..actually…I am an NFL fann who plainly sees a witch hunt….and a bunch of people who know NOTHING….you being the head of the class. Keep up the hatin’….and keep trying to make something out of nothing. Prior to the warning…EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL videotaped coaches signals….FACT…admitted by some of the top former coaches in the game…..every team did it. Period. Now…the Patriots did ignore the warning and did it in the Jets game after the LEAGUE WIDE memo went out again telling everyone they could no longer do it……it was mandated not to do it any more. So yeah..the Patriots got penalized for that. But again./..and please…try to grasp it….every team did it prior to the 200 season………..and teams still did it after that too…but the Pats got caught….Mangini turned them in…even after the Pats caught him doing the same thing and didn’t turn him in. Again…whatever….you haters all have your agendas……….good luck with that…but please….find a new “binky” now…maybe jump on the Arlen Specter re-election campaign…god knows he’s gonna need help after his foolishess is done

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]]> By: SeanMartin http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28608 SeanMartin Tue, 13 May 2008 17:11:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28608 I wish I could pull a Jim Carey in "Bruce Almighty" on Mark Schlereth right now... I hate him. I wish I could pull a Jim Carey in “Bruce Almighty” on Mark Schlereth right now… I hate him.

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]]> By: Referee http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28607 Referee Tue, 13 May 2008 17:10:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28607 Will these tapes pre-empt reruns of Monk and/or Law and Order I hope? Never forget the cries of the lost and forgotten... Free Tibet & Free Pacman Jones NOW!!! Will these tapes pre-empt reruns of Monk and/or Law and Order I hope? Never forget the cries of the lost and forgotten… Free Tibet & Free Pacman Jones NOW!!!

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]]> By: NYJetsFan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28599 NYJetsFan Tue, 13 May 2008 17:07:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28599 It is a non-issue because nothing ever became of it. If it was an issue don't you think that the win-at-all-costs Pats would make it a big deal in light of their penalty for taping? just think logically and thinks start to make sense. (like, why would the Pats tape if it didn't help them in some way) Look, the Pats have been a great team the last seven years, Belichick is great coach and Tom Brady is, arguably, the best QB of all-time . Would they have won the SBs and had a 16-0 season without cheating?..most likely. It is really a shame for the organization and their fans that it is somewhat tarnished by Spygate. Could other teams have been doing the same thing?..possibly. Did the Jets?...no. Did other teams get fined and a draft pick taken away for it...no. It is a non-issue because nothing ever became of it. If it was an issue don’t you think that the win-at-all-costs Pats would make it a big deal in light of their penalty for taping?

just think logically and thinks start to make sense.

(like, why would the Pats tape if it didn’t help them in some way)

Look, the Pats have been a great team the last seven years, Belichick is great coach and Tom Brady is, arguably, the best QB of all-time . Would they have won the SBs and had a 16-0 season without cheating?..most likely. It is really a shame for the organization and their fans that it is somewhat tarnished by Spygate.

Could other teams have been doing the same thing?..possibly. Did the Jets?…no. Did other teams get fined and a draft pick taken away for it…no.

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]]> By: SeanMartin http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28585 SeanMartin Tue, 13 May 2008 17:00:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28585 coolhand, -"This goes to show how underhanded the Patriots organization has become." Yes... -" I would have a lot more respect for them if they came out and said “yeah we did something we shouldn’t have been doing - I accept the punishment of the League.”" That is exactly what Belichick did. You are an idiot. -"Instead we get “Oh….I misinterpreted the rule that clearly says no cameras or filming.”" Belichick said he thought it was legal as long as you don't look at the tapes during the same game. Again, you are an idiot. -"Either Bilichek is a complete idiot or he thinks the general public is to offer such nonsense and expect anybody with any reasonable intelligence to believe it." I do not know how to interpret this "sentence". You didn't even spell Bill's name correctly. You are a joke and your opinion is not valued here. coolhand,

-”This goes to show how underhanded the Patriots organization has become.”

Yes…

-” I would have a lot more respect for them if they came out and said “yeah we did something we shouldn’t have been doing - I accept the punishment of the League.””

That is exactly what Belichick did. You are an idiot.

-”Instead we get “Oh….I misinterpreted the rule that clearly says no cameras or filming.””

Belichick said he thought it was legal as long as you don’t look at the tapes during the same game. Again, you are an idiot.

-”Either Bilichek is a complete idiot or he thinks the general public is to offer such nonsense and expect anybody with any reasonable intelligence to believe it.”

I do not know how to interpret this “sentence”. You didn’t even spell Bill’s name correctly. You are a joke and your opinion is not valued here.

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]]> By: PFTiswhatitis http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28574 PFTiswhatitis Tue, 13 May 2008 16:54:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28574 NYJetsFan, a Cheerleader, says: May 13th, 2008 at 12:41 pm juxtapoz15— The removal was a non-issue. _____ On Wednesday Jets coach Eric Mangini said his team received permission to film behind both end zones during the playoff game in January. “We taped the game, is what we taped, and we taped end-zone copy of the game, and we tape a double end zone, which is standard operating procedure for us,” Mangini said. “We request that every single road game, and it’s usually granted if physically it’s possible. And when people request it from us, we do the same thing: We grant it.” ANd the Pats disagreed with Manginas statement. They went on record as stating that they NEVER gave them permission. How is it a non-issue again? Oh yeah I know because its the Jets and only the Pats get penalized for that. NYJetsFan, a Cheerleader, says:

May 13th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
juxtapoz15—

The removal was a non-issue.

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On Wednesday Jets coach Eric Mangini said his team received permission to film behind both end zones during the playoff game in January.

“We taped the game, is what we taped, and we taped end-zone copy of the game, and we tape a double end zone, which is standard operating procedure for us,” Mangini said.

“We request that every single road game, and it’s usually granted if physically it’s possible. And when people request it from us, we do the same thing: We grant it.”

ANd the Pats disagreed with Manginas statement. They went on record as stating that they NEVER gave them permission. How is it a non-issue again? Oh yeah I know because its the Jets and only the Pats get penalized for that.

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]]> By: Skew http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28571 Skew Tue, 13 May 2008 16:54:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28571 Patriots=cheaters /end of story Patriots=cheaters

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]]> By: NYJetsFan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28551 NYJetsFan Tue, 13 May 2008 16:41:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28551 juxtapoz15--- The removal was a non-issue. _____ On Wednesday Jets coach Eric Mangini said his team received permission to film behind both end zones during the playoff game in January. "We taped the game, is what we taped, and we taped end-zone copy of the game, and we tape a double end zone, which is standard operating procedure for us," Mangini said. "We request that every single road game, and it's usually granted if physically it's possible. And when people request it from us, we do the same thing: We grant it." juxtapoz15—

The removal was a non-issue.

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On Wednesday Jets coach Eric Mangini said his team received permission to film behind both end zones during the playoff game in January.

“We taped the game, is what we taped, and we taped end-zone copy of the game, and we tape a double end zone, which is standard operating procedure for us,” Mangini said.

“We request that every single road game, and it’s usually granted if physically it’s possible. And when people request it from us, we do the same thing: We grant it.”

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]]> By: SJH http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28549 SJH Tue, 13 May 2008 16:40:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28549 Goodell just said Walsh told him the tapes were NOT used in the same game, that the tapes never left his (Walsh's) possession during the game. Chris Carter and Stink, wrong again. Florio got this one right. There's no new info here at all. We knew all this in September. Goodell just said Walsh told him the tapes were NOT used in the same game, that the tapes never left his (Walsh’s) possession during the game.

Chris Carter and Stink, wrong again. Florio got this one right.

There’s no new info here at all. We knew all this in September.

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]]> By: PFTiswhatitis http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28548 PFTiswhatitis Tue, 13 May 2008 16:39:20 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28548 From what I am hearing from Goodell right now it looks like all you haters including Cris Carter and Schlereth are being PROVED WRONG. From what I am hearing from Goodell right now it looks like all you haters including Cris Carter and Schlereth are being PROVED WRONG.

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]]> By: dbvader http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28547 dbvader Tue, 13 May 2008 16:38:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28547 "So, I am going to rely on the opinion of former NFL players rather than homer Pats commenting above that tapes like these provided a significant advantage for the Pats." When they are claiming that the Patriots could edit the videotape with the corresponding formation/play and decipher the signals during halftime, you should not listen to former NFL players. “So, I am going to rely on the opinion of former NFL players rather than homer Pats commenting above that tapes like these provided a significant advantage for the Pats.”

When they are claiming that the Patriots could edit the videotape with the corresponding formation/play and decipher the signals during halftime, you should not listen to former NFL players.

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]]> By: Funny Pats Fans http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28546 Funny Pats Fans Tue, 13 May 2008 16:38:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28546 ken13 is so cute. I can see him now, sitting around in his Pats 19-0 Perfect Season T-shirt with the sleeves cut off, showing off his shoulder tats as he sips another Pawtucket Light. Here's to you ken! ken13 is so cute. I can see him now, sitting around in his Pats 19-0 Perfect Season T-shirt with the sleeves cut off, showing off his shoulder tats as he sips another Pawtucket Light. Here’s to you ken!

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]]> By: Kai http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28545 Kai Tue, 13 May 2008 16:37:10 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28545 So Gooddell just said "It is permissible for clubs to tape defensive signals." As noted before, this whole issue is about the fact that the Pats did it from the wrong location. Gimme a break... So Gooddell just said “It is permissible for clubs to tape defensive signals.” As noted before, this whole issue is about the fact that the Pats did it from the wrong location. Gimme a break…

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]]> By: dbvader http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28537 dbvader Tue, 13 May 2008 16:30:33 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28537 <i>So, I am going to rely on the opinion of former NFL players rather than homer Pats commenting above that tapes like these provided a significant advantage for the Pats.</i> When the players are claiming that the Pats can edit the videotape to show the signals and the corresponding formation/play and decipher the signals during a halftime, you should not rely on their opinion. So, I am going to rely on the opinion of former NFL players rather than homer Pats commenting above that tapes like these provided a significant advantage for the Pats.

When the players are claiming that the Pats can edit the videotape to show the signals and the corresponding formation/play and decipher the signals during a halftime, you should not rely on their opinion.

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]]> By: coolhand http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28536 coolhand Tue, 13 May 2008 16:28:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28536 This goes to show how underhanded the Patriots organization has become. I would have a lot more respect for them if they came out and said "yeah we did something we shouldn't have been doing - I accept the punishment of the League." Instead we get "Oh....I misinterpreted the rule that clearly says no cameras or filming." Either Bilichek is a complete idiot or he thinks the general public is to offer such nonsense and expect anybody with any reasonable intelligence to believe it. This goes to show how underhanded the Patriots organization has become. I would have a lot more respect for them if they came out and said “yeah we did something we shouldn’t have been doing - I accept the punishment of the League.” Instead we get “Oh….I misinterpreted the rule that clearly says no cameras or filming.” Either Bilichek is a complete idiot or he thinks the general public is to offer such nonsense and expect anybody with any reasonable intelligence to believe it.

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]]> By: Dan1919 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28535 Dan1919 Tue, 13 May 2008 16:28:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28535 ESPN is unreal. These tapes took HOURS and HOURS to edit them in this format. Three different splices are made to make this tape. 1. The coaches 2. the Time. 3. The End Zone footage. Mark and Chris need to be schooled by someone that understands football. Now what happens if the teams change their signals!!!! ESPN is unreal.

These tapes took HOURS and HOURS to edit them in this format. Three different splices are made to make this tape. 1. The coaches 2. the Time. 3. The End Zone footage.

Mark and Chris need to be schooled by someone that understands football.

Now what happens if the teams change their signals!!!!

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]]> By: jayt http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28534 jayt Tue, 13 May 2008 16:26:34 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28534 You have really veiled your bias Florio. Why were they taping a team in the playoffs if they did not have a way to use the information during the game? Makes we wonder in the SuperBowl with an extended half time how much they could put this info to use. You have really veiled your bias Florio.
Why were they taping a team in the playoffs if they did not have a way to use the information during the game?
Makes we wonder in the SuperBowl with an extended half time how much they could put this info
to use.

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]]> By: KipSmithers http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28533 KipSmithers Tue, 13 May 2008 16:26:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28533 It's definitely possible to use footage from the first half of the game and digest it during half time. If you had an assistant coach designated to work on that for the entire half time, he could have substantial info ready for the coaches by the start of the 2nd half. It’s definitely possible to use footage from the first half of the game and digest it during half time. If you had an assistant coach designated to work on that for the entire half time, he could have substantial info ready for the coaches by the start of the 2nd half.

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]]> By: ken13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28532 ken13 Tue, 13 May 2008 16:25:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28532 LOL, more typical Pats Hater crap from a bunch of classless morons grasping at straws in the HOPE they can tarnish a great football team. Sorry folks........but your smoking gun had noi bullets...your hero Arlen Sphincter is the next hero to look stupid....and you can all go back to watching ANOTHER 16-0 season...but this one will end with a super bowl win. LOL, more typical Pats Hater crap from a bunch of classless morons grasping at straws in the HOPE they can tarnish a great football team.
Sorry folks……..but your smoking gun had noi bullets…your hero Arlen Sphincter is the next hero to look stupid….and you can all go back to watching ANOTHER 16-0 season…but this one will end with a super bowl win.

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]]> By: SeanMartin http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28531 SeanMartin Tue, 13 May 2008 16:24:51 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28531 People are acting like they never knew this is what the Patriots did. This frustrates me so much, because I KNOW that there are half a million Patriot haters who know little to ABSOLUTELY nothing about the game screaming their heads off, "Yes! Finally, some hard evidence they cheated!" There are so many media that anyone could be filming the game for ANY team. It is sad to know that people who are reporting on this issue do not give a full explanation of what is going on, and a clear picture, to the VERY LARGE MASS that is called the football world, before that very same amount of "fans" make wrongful judgments on an organization. People are acting like they never knew this is what the Patriots did. This frustrates me so much, because I KNOW that there are half a million Patriot haters who know little to ABSOLUTELY nothing about the game screaming their heads off, “Yes! Finally, some hard evidence they cheated!” There are so many media that anyone could be filming the game for ANY team.

It is sad to know that people who are reporting on this issue do not give a full explanation of what is going on, and a clear picture, to the VERY LARGE MASS that is called the football world, before that very same amount of “fans” make wrongful judgments on an organization.

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]]> By: juxtapoz15 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28530 juxtapoz15 Tue, 13 May 2008 16:24:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28530 NYJetsFan, a Cheerleader, says: May 13th, 2008 at 12:08 pm "Before you comment that I am a Jets fans…Yes, I realize Mangini was there. Yes, that is disappointing. But, the Jets have never had an issue of substance with something like this." Wasn't a Jets video assistant asked to leave after being caught taping the Patriots from the end zone in their second meeting this year? I hate to tell you most of the Walsh tapes that have been shown so far are showing the EXACT SAME THING? NYJetsFan, a Cheerleader, says:

May 13th, 2008 at 12:08 pm

“Before you comment that I am a Jets fans…Yes, I realize Mangini was there. Yes, that is disappointing. But, the Jets have never had an issue of substance with something like this.”

Wasn’t a Jets video assistant asked to leave after being caught taping the Patriots from the end zone in their second meeting this year? I hate to tell you most of the Walsh tapes that have been shown so far are showing the EXACT SAME THING?

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]]> By: PFTiswhatitis http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28529 PFTiswhatitis Tue, 13 May 2008 16:23:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28529 Anyone that knows anything about editing video knows that you cant put together those tapes during the game. It doesnt take a degree in cinematography. Anyone that knows anything about editing video knows that you cant put together those tapes during the game. It doesnt take a degree in cinematography.

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]]> By: javajay77 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28527 javajay77 Tue, 13 May 2008 16:21:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28527 Umm have any of you seen the videos they are showing? The brown's one is literally from the top row in end zone seating,...please - bury yer heads in the sand and wait fer yer !@#!@ prom! *sob* i hate you patriots... yeah!!? GOOD! Umm have any of you seen the videos they are showing? The brown’s one is literally from the top row in end zone seating,…please - bury yer heads in the sand and wait fer yer !@#!@ prom!

*sob* i hate you patriots…

yeah!!? GOOD!

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]]> By: PFTiswhatitis http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28526 PFTiswhatitis Tue, 13 May 2008 16:21:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28526 JetsFan: The Jets were caught taping in Gillette and kicked out. The Pats had the clas to handle it themselves. Cris Carter and Schlereth are talking out of their butts on this. So far at least, nothing new and damning has come out. JetsFan: The Jets were caught taping in Gillette and kicked out. The Pats had the clas to handle it themselves.

Cris Carter and Schlereth are talking out of their butts on this. So far at least, nothing new and damning has come out.

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]]> By: NY Giants Since 1925 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28523 NY Giants Since 1925 Tue, 13 May 2008 16:20:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28523 Goodell would gladly like to sweep it under the rug but it is possible that many ex players really take it seriously how intricate this process of gaining an advantage over the opponent. Ex players know the significance of such information, Stink and Carter gave a honest perspective as former players. But its unlikely the NFL would stab its own image twice. Let the spin control commence! Goodell would gladly like to sweep it under the rug but it is possible that many ex players really take it seriously how intricate this process of gaining an advantage over the opponent.
Ex players know the significance of such information, Stink and Carter gave a honest perspective as former players. But its unlikely the NFL would stab its own image twice. Let the spin control commence!

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]]> By: Funny Pats Fans http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28521 Funny Pats Fans Tue, 13 May 2008 16:16:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28521 Pats fans are so cute. First we hear for years what a "genius" Belichick is. Then we hear how Captain I.Q. couldn't understand a simple rule from the book. Which is it, Pats fans? Is he Einstein or Bill and Ted? I tell you, sometimes these funny Pats fans can give you a real headache. Pats fans are so cute. First we hear for years what a “genius” Belichick is. Then we hear how Captain I.Q. couldn’t understand a simple rule from the book. Which is it, Pats fans? Is he Einstein or Bill and Ted? I tell you, sometimes these funny Pats fans can give you a real headache.

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]]> By: Rob0769 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28519 Rob0769 Tue, 13 May 2008 16:15:47 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28519 NYJetsFan, Scherleth also said he would be ashamed to play with a team that cheats like the Patriots. He apparently has no problem with playing for a team that cheated like Broncos did while he played with them. I guess a bunch of shots of the cheerleaders is going to give the Pats a competitive edge. Schlereth still maintains that the tapes were used during the game yet has never given a logical explaination of how it could be done. NYJetsFan,

Scherleth also said he would be ashamed to play with a team that cheats like the Patriots. He apparently has no problem with playing for a team that cheated like Broncos did while he played with them.

I guess a bunch of shots of the cheerleaders is going to give the Pats a competitive edge. Schlereth still maintains that the tapes were used during the game yet has never given a logical explaination of how it could be done.

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]]> By: NYJetsFan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28518 NYJetsFan Tue, 13 May 2008 16:15:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28518 Goodell is only showing the tapes because he got killed by the media for destroying the tapes in September. He knows that to preclude any semblance of impropriety he has to go the "full disclosure" route this time. Goodell is only showing the tapes because he got killed by the media for destroying the tapes in September. He knows that to preclude any semblance of impropriety he has to go the “full disclosure” route this time.

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]]> By: NonYahooHotmailAcct http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28517 NonYahooHotmailAcct Tue, 13 May 2008 16:14:55 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28517 Schefter just said that the tapes are of nothing people have not seen before. And holy sh--t, their treating Walsh like a celeb on the streets. Pap-pa-pa-razzi, bit--es Schefter just said that the tapes are of nothing people have not seen before.
And holy sh–t, their treating Walsh like a celeb on the streets. Pap-pa-pa-razzi, bit–es

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]]> By: NY Giants Since 1925 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28514 NY Giants Since 1925 Tue, 13 May 2008 16:11:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28514 ESPN, Stink and Carter are givin it to the pats. Say what u will about ESPN, we all know its commercial BUT As former players what they say actually matters. They've given sweat,tears and blood to a brutal sport to see it pissed on by some physcho head coach. ESPN, Stink and Carter are givin it to the pats. Say what u will about ESPN, we all know its commercial BUT As former players what they say actually matters. They’ve given sweat,tears and blood to a brutal sport to see it pissed on by some physcho head coach.

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28512 Vox Veritas Tue, 13 May 2008 16:09:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28512 "I highly doubt they would ever let anything see the light of day that might undermine the dignity of those games." Replace "dignity" with "integrity" and I would agree. Goodell's #1 priority is to preserve the integrity of the league, and it's ability to maximize profits. It's too bad that there are teams that could not care less about the integrity of the league and do stuff like this. Sorry, I'll never buy the "every team does it" rationalization. “I highly doubt they would ever let anything see the light of day that might undermine the dignity of those games.”

Replace “dignity” with “integrity” and I would agree. Goodell’s #1 priority is to preserve the integrity of the league, and it’s ability to maximize profits. It’s too bad that there are teams that could not care less about the integrity of the league and do stuff like this. Sorry, I’ll never buy the “every team does it” rationalization.

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]]> By: NYJetsFan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28511 NYJetsFan Tue, 13 May 2008 16:08:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28511 Mark Schlereth and Cris Carter are killing the Patriots for these tapes with Schlereth saying these are even worse than he thought. "Far more damning evidence" than the tape leaked to Glazer in September." So, I am going to rely on the opinion of former NFL players rather than homer Pats commenting above that tapes like these provided a significant advantage for the Pats. Cris Carter, "This is cheating." "This changes the game." Before you comment that I am a Jets fans...Yes, I realize Mangini was there. Yes, that is disappointing. But, the Jets have never had an issue of substance with something like this. Mark Schlereth and Cris Carter are killing the Patriots for these tapes with Schlereth saying these are even worse than he thought. “Far more damning evidence” than the tape leaked to Glazer in September.”

So, I am going to rely on the opinion of former NFL players rather than homer Pats commenting above that tapes like these provided a significant advantage for the Pats.

Cris Carter, “This is cheating.” “This changes the game.”

Before you comment that I am a Jets fans…Yes, I realize Mangini was there. Yes, that is disappointing. But, the Jets have never had an issue of substance with something like this.

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]]> By: dhoffman19 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28509 dhoffman19 Tue, 13 May 2008 16:04:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28509 There was nothing in Al Capone's vault But it wasn't Geraldo's fault There was nothing in Al Capone’s vault
But it wasn’t Geraldo’s fault

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]]> By: Cmarchesani3198 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28508 Cmarchesani3198 Tue, 13 May 2008 16:04:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28508 Obviously these tapes are being shown to the public because they contain nothing "juicy".Otherwise they would have destroyed them just ilke the first set. But know one will ever know what exactly was on those tapes. Glad to see you've already come to a conclusion about the use of the tapes, Florio. Explain again why tapes of signals from the first half couldn't be used in say...the fourth quarter. Oh that's right, because the quality is poor. What a crock of shit. Obviously these tapes are being shown to the public because they contain nothing “juicy”.Otherwise they would have destroyed them just ilke the first set. But know one will ever know what exactly was on those tapes.

Glad to see you’ve already come to a conclusion about the use of the tapes, Florio. Explain again why tapes of signals from the first half couldn’t be used in say…the fourth quarter. Oh that’s right, because the quality is poor. What a crock of shit.

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]]> By: msullivan1984 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28507 msullivan1984 Tue, 13 May 2008 16:03:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28507 Once a cheater always a cheater. Once a cheater always a cheater.

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]]> By: Kai http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28506 Kai Tue, 13 May 2008 16:01:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28506 Didn't the who Spygate issue have more to do with "where" the Pats filmed from than "what" they filmed? These look like end zone recordings, which would have been legal if filmed from the press box, right? Didn’t the who Spygate issue have more to do with “where” the Pats filmed from than “what” they filmed? These look like end zone recordings, which would have been legal if filmed from the press box, right?

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]]> By: RonInCharlotte http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28504 RonInCharlotte Tue, 13 May 2008 15:59:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28504 You Patriots Spin-Doctors are fooling yourselves and nobody else. This is surreal. These tapes are just part of the system used to cheat. These are used in conjunction with legal video. They were probably spliced with real film to show the actual footage of game play to create a full picture of what was going on. You have to remember there was probably a team of video analysis experts dispatched to make maximum use. Say what you will Spin-Doctors but what is going to matter to evryone else and cause you to have to deal with the humiliation is the story behind all of this. The names and marching orders and the real story about whether Beeeeelicehek misinterpreted (eye-roll, a genius who misunderstood a clear rule), whether Brady stayed in NE for less money because he knew his advantage, etc. Pats=Cheaters You Patriots Spin-Doctors are fooling yourselves and nobody else.

This is surreal. These tapes are just part of the system used to cheat. These are used in conjunction with legal video. They were probably spliced with real film to show the actual footage of game play to create a full picture of what was going on. You have to remember there was probably a team of video analysis experts dispatched to make maximum use.

Say what you will Spin-Doctors but what is going to matter to evryone else and cause you to have to deal with the humiliation is the story behind all of this. The names and marching orders and the real story about whether Beeeeelicehek misinterpreted (eye-roll, a genius who misunderstood a clear rule), whether Brady stayed in NE for less money because he knew his advantage, etc.

Pats=Cheaters

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]]> By: mikebdot http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28501 mikebdot Tue, 13 May 2008 15:56:55 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28501 You're such a homer dude. Continue to play up Marvin Harrison with pithy comments. Continue to play down Walsh with pithy comments. Calling people out with pithy comments is soooo much fun! Yes, I DO get the irony. Mostly because it's true. You’re such a homer dude. Continue to play up Marvin Harrison with pithy comments. Continue to play down Walsh with pithy comments. Calling people out with pithy comments is soooo much fun! Yes, I DO get the irony. Mostly because it’s true.

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]]> By: monger http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28500 monger Tue, 13 May 2008 15:56:40 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28500 When do they get to the tape with Cheerleaders Gone Wild? When do they get to the tape with Cheerleaders Gone Wild?

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]]> By: ronry http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28498 ronry Tue, 13 May 2008 15:54:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28498 This story is old and tired. Even if there was something, what is the NFL really going to do. They're not going to undo the Super Bowls, and I highly doubt they would ever let anything see the light of day that might undermine the dignity of those games. This story is old and tired. Even if there was something, what is the NFL really going to do. They’re not going to undo the Super Bowls, and I highly doubt they would ever let anything see the light of day that might undermine the dignity of those games.

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]]> By: cantgetenough http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28496 cantgetenough Tue, 13 May 2008 15:54:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28496 I'm so underwhelmed. I’m so underwhelmed.

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]]> By: jjcruiser http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28495 jjcruiser Tue, 13 May 2008 15:53:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28495 Eisen "it's outrageous!" A military junta takes over a country and is so afraid of external influence over ten years later that they let hundreds of thousands of people starve to death for keeping relief effort out followinga devastating storm. THAT'S "outrageous," Eisen. Not a videocamera. Eisen “it’s outrageous!”

A military junta takes over a country and is so afraid of external influence over ten years later that they let hundreds of thousands of people starve to death for keeping relief effort out followinga devastating storm.

THAT’S “outrageous,” Eisen. Not a videocamera.

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]]> By: hamilton http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28487 hamilton Tue, 13 May 2008 15:48:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28487 Huh. apparently he taped the San Diego Chargers cheerleaders too. Zoomed in when they were bent over during a routine. Finally Walsh does something worth respecting. Huh. apparently he taped the San Diego Chargers cheerleaders too. Zoomed in when they were bent over during a routine.

Finally Walsh does something worth respecting.

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]]> By: zorgon http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28486 zorgon Tue, 13 May 2008 15:47:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28486 If it was something big they would be more of a delay so that they could get any punishment worked out. This is just going to be a big "nothing to see here" type speech. They will say that it is all stuff that they already knew. If it was something big they would be more of a delay so that they could get any punishment worked out. This is just going to be a big “nothing to see here” type speech. They will say that it is all stuff that they already knew.

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]]> By: juxtapoz15 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28485 juxtapoz15 Tue, 13 May 2008 15:46:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28485 So will they show parts of the tapes that show other teams taping the Pats? So will they show parts of the tapes that show other teams taping the Pats?

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]]> By: regal http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28483 regal Tue, 13 May 2008 15:46:10 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/13/walsh-tapes-are-being-aired/#comment-28483 Is anyone watching ESPN right now? What a joke that network is. First, Trey Wingo is asking Clayton what he thinks was said in the meeting. Uh, good question Trey. Even Clayton has a look of "what the hell kind of question is that?" They want this to be a story sooooo badly. This is extremely pathetic on all fronts. Is anyone watching ESPN right now? What a joke that network is. First, Trey Wingo is asking Clayton what he thinks was said in the meeting. Uh, good question Trey. Even Clayton has a look of “what the hell kind of question is that?”

They want this to be a story sooooo badly. This is extremely pathetic on all fronts.

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