Comments on: DOES SHOCKEY WANT TO STAY IN NEW YORK? http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:08:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: nybeez80 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-28254 nybeez80 Tue, 13 May 2008 03:38:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-28254 kellyb9, Drew Brees is a very good QB but he is also 3 years older than Eli Manning. The defense was a huge part of the superbowl win no doubt but Eli Manning had TWO 4th quarter comebacks against a team that many were calling the best of all time. The defense did allow the pats to march down the field and take the lead with less than 3 minutes to go. Eli carried the Giants down the field for the win. You can keep Brees' stats I would rather have Eli's clutch performances. kellyb9,
Drew Brees is a very good QB but he is also 3 years older than Eli Manning.
The defense was a huge part of the superbowl win no doubt but Eli Manning had TWO 4th quarter comebacks against a team that many were calling the best of all time. The defense did allow the pats to march down the field and take the lead with less than 3 minutes to go. Eli carried the Giants down the field for the win. You can keep Brees’ stats I would rather have Eli’s clutch performances.

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-28158 Vox Veritas Tue, 13 May 2008 00:45:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-28158 Shockey's pretty good... for the third best TE in the division. Pretty funny that he (14th overall pick) is distantly trailing a couple of third rounders (Witten and Cooley). Shockey’s pretty good… for the third best TE in the division. Pretty funny that he (14th overall pick) is distantly trailing a couple of third rounders (Witten and Cooley).

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]]> By: cantgetenough http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-28015 cantgetenough Mon, 12 May 2008 19:45:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-28015 Kellyb, That poster was responding to GeauxSaints12, who said that Shockey needs a good QB (Brees) to reach his full potential. That is ridiculous. I think Brees is a good QB, but obviously not good enough to take the 2007 Saints to the SB. Some will argue that the defense carried the Giants, which I agree with. But Eli and Co still put points on the board when it counted, on the biggest stage of all. All the stats, yards, and TD in the world don't count much if you can't win the big game. Kellyb,
That poster was responding to GeauxSaints12, who said that Shockey needs a good QB (Brees) to reach his full potential. That is ridiculous. I think Brees is a good QB, but obviously not good enough to take the 2007 Saints to the SB. Some will argue that the defense carried the Giants, which I agree with. But Eli and Co still put points on the board when it counted, on the biggest stage of all. All the stats, yards, and TD in the world don’t count much if you can’t win the big game.

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]]> By: FloriosPhillyFan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27984 FloriosPhillyFan Mon, 12 May 2008 19:11:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27984 "if Geno was from New York, Philadelphia would scream “cheesesteaks suck!” idiot “if Geno was from New York, Philadelphia would scream “cheesesteaks suck!”

idiot

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]]> By: kellyb9 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27945 kellyb9 Mon, 12 May 2008 18:23:20 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27945 @cantgetenough - The poster above remarked that Eli Manning was better then Drew Brees because of his Super Bowl prowess. I was simply correcting his assumption that a Super Bowl victory earns a player elite status. I also agree with your comment, I'd be very interested to see how Eli Manning does this year. They were a team that got hot at the right time. Can they do it again? @cantgetenough - The poster above remarked that Eli Manning was better then Drew Brees because of his Super Bowl prowess. I was simply correcting his assumption that a Super Bowl victory earns a player elite status. I also agree with your comment, I’d be very interested to see how Eli Manning does this year. They were a team that got hot at the right time. Can they do it again?

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]]> By: dlmcc0202 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27905 dlmcc0202 Mon, 12 May 2008 16:55:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27905 Giants should be rid of Shockey. Good player but a bad team mate. I grew tired of watching him harass Eli all the time when he didn't get the ball. Yes the Giants defense won the Superbowl, but their offense still had to score to win and they played as a good group throughout the playoffs. Shockey is a bit over rated, the Giants don't need him to win and they definitely don't need him causing problems in the huddle Giants should be rid of Shockey. Good player but a bad team mate. I grew tired of watching him harass Eli all the time when he didn’t get the ball. Yes the Giants defense won the Superbowl, but their offense still had to score to win and they played as a good group throughout the playoffs.

Shockey is a bit over rated, the Giants don’t need him to win and they definitely don’t need him causing problems in the huddle

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]]> By: cantgetenough http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27890 cantgetenough Mon, 12 May 2008 16:17:21 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27890 Kellyb, who is comparing Eli to Dan Marino? You arrived at that yourself. As a NYG fan, I am very curious to see how Eli does this season. It would be good for him to be able to maintain the maturity he showed in the playoffs this past year. Kellyb, who is comparing Eli to Dan Marino? You arrived at that yourself. As a NYG fan, I am very curious to see how Eli does this season. It would be good for him to be able to maintain the maturity he showed in the playoffs this past year.

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]]> By: kellyb9 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27866 kellyb9 Mon, 12 May 2008 15:07:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27866 "GeauxSaints12, how many Superbowls has Drew Brees won?" Give me a break! @nybeez80 - How many Super Bowls has Dan Marino won? A big zero. Are you implying that Eli Manning is a better QB then Dan Marino? I still think based on consistancy, most NFL fans would place Drew Brees slightly above Eli Manning at this time. Besides, look at the stats for that Super Bowl victory, and you'd realize that the defense won that game for the Giants. Give it another year before you start carving up Eli Manning's bust in Canton. “GeauxSaints12, how many Superbowls has Drew Brees won?”
Give me a break!
@nybeez80 - How many Super Bowls has Dan Marino won? A big zero. Are you implying that Eli Manning is a better QB then Dan Marino? I still think based on consistancy, most NFL fans would place Drew Brees slightly above Eli Manning at this time. Besides, look at the stats for that Super Bowl victory, and you’d realize that the defense won that game for the Giants. Give it another year before you start carving up Eli Manning’s bust in Canton.

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]]> By: PhillyPhan610 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27858 PhillyPhan610 Mon, 12 May 2008 14:09:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27858 I do not agree that it is fair to say the giants are better without him (although I think they are)...My point is better or not, they proved they can win without him... So, bringing it to the point that they are better should not arise, they won without him, part ways and move on... I do not agree that it is fair to say the giants are better without him (although I think they are)…My point is better or not, they proved they can win without him… So, bringing it to the point that they are better should not arise, they won without him, part ways and move on…

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]]> By: monger http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27839 monger Mon, 12 May 2008 13:27:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27839 Shockey, like Meshawn Johnson, was a decent player who the NY media hyped into a star far in excess of their performance. If either of these guys had been drafted by small market teams they'd have been mired in mediocrity like they deserve. Shockey, like Meshawn Johnson, was a decent player who the NY media hyped into a star far in excess of their performance. If either of these guys had been drafted by small market teams they’d have been mired in mediocrity like they deserve.

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]]> By: cantgetenough http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27818 cantgetenough Mon, 12 May 2008 12:39:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27818 Shockey needs to show up this season and show everyone that the NYG can win a SB with him! But if he's going to whine and complain Eli needs to put him in his place. Shockey needs to show up this season and show everyone that the NYG can win a SB with him! But if he’s going to whine and complain Eli needs to put him in his place.

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]]> By: I C light pounder http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27812 I C light pounder Mon, 12 May 2008 12:22:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27812 overrated are you kidding me?!?!? please the guy went to The U and was a beast. Thye need to quit useing him and blocking packages adn schemes and start "giving him the damn ball". Shockey i got you back son overrated are you kidding me?!?!? please the guy went to The U and was a beast. Thye need to quit useing him and blocking packages adn schemes and start “giving him the damn ball”. Shockey i got you back son

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]]> By: bradtor777 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27770 bradtor777 Mon, 12 May 2008 03:32:58 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27770 Shockey and Tiki Barber must get together for drinks occasionally, mourning how the Giants managed to win a championship without their contributions. Shockey and Tiki Barber must get together for drinks occasionally, mourning how the Giants managed to win a championship without their contributions.

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]]> By: nybeez80 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27765 nybeez80 Mon, 12 May 2008 03:01:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27765 "beside shockey needs a good quarterback to help him reach his potintial. like drew brees." Your football knowledge is as good as your grammar. GeauxSaints12, how many Superbowls has Drew Brees won? “beside shockey needs a good quarterback to help him reach his potintial. like drew brees.” Your football knowledge is as good as your grammar.
GeauxSaints12, how many Superbowls has Drew Brees won?

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]]> By: wingnut http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27758 wingnut Mon, 12 May 2008 02:27:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27758 Shockey's a KnuckleHead! just my opinion. Shockey’s a KnuckleHead!

just my opinion.

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]]> By: Mike http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27755 Mike Mon, 12 May 2008 02:16:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27755 As a "veteran" Giants fan, I believe I speak for many of us when I say we love and want Shockey. And the fact that someone could even say he is the "T.O." of tight end is ridiculous. He has not once publicly spoken poorly of his team, or made any mention of his current situation. I think he is handling himself as a professional and keeping all the talks behind closed doors. If he stays I will be a very happy fan, and if he leaves I wish him all the luck in the world. As a “veteran” Giants fan, I believe I speak for many of us when I say we love and want Shockey. And the fact that someone could even say he is the “T.O.” of tight end is ridiculous. He has not once publicly spoken poorly of his team, or made any mention of his current situation. I think he is handling himself as a professional and keeping all the talks behind closed doors. If he stays I will be a very happy fan, and if he leaves I wish him all the luck in the world.

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]]> By: GeauxSaints12 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27747 GeauxSaints12 Mon, 12 May 2008 01:39:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27747 he should of went to the saints. You all know who what tight end drew brees had in san diago. beside shockey needs a good quarterback to help him reach his potintial. like drew brees. he should of went to the saints. You all know who what tight end drew brees had in san diago. beside shockey needs a good quarterback to help him reach his potintial. like drew brees.

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]]> By: wingnut http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27740 wingnut Mon, 12 May 2008 01:04:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27740 Shockey,Tiki Barber cancers, thats why the Giants went to the Super Bowl without them. Shockey,Tiki Barber cancers, thats why the Giants went to the Super Bowl without them.

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]]> By: mrf47 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27731 mrf47 Mon, 12 May 2008 00:45:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27731 theron26, if Geno was from New York, Philadelphia would scream "cheesesteaks suck!" theron26, if Geno was from New York, Philadelphia would scream “cheesesteaks suck!”

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]]> By: theron26 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27728 theron26 Mon, 12 May 2008 00:36:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27728 Shockey has become the TO of Tight Ends... He is highly over-rated. I love it whenever he comes to Philly, the crowd screams... "Shockey Sucks" Shockey has become the TO of Tight Ends… He is highly over-rated. I love it whenever he comes to Philly, the crowd screams… “Shockey Sucks”

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]]> By: go screw http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27719 go screw Mon, 12 May 2008 00:09:55 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27719 Give Shockey a shocker Give Shockey a shocker

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]]> By: brian_21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27715 brian_21 Mon, 12 May 2008 00:02:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27715 I'd be bothered, too, if people say the team is better than me (if I had the skills that Jeremy Shockey has). The New York Giants are positively not better without Shockey. They went on a roar and deserve their ring, but c'mon. My belief is that Shockey absolutely wants a ticket out of town. But he'll probably play for them this year ... put up great numbers ... Giants don't win the Super Bowl ... He gets blamed. I’d be bothered, too, if people say the team is better than me (if I had the skills that Jeremy Shockey has). The New York Giants are positively not better without Shockey. They went on a roar and deserve their ring, but c’mon.

My belief is that Shockey absolutely wants a ticket out of town. But he’ll probably play for them this year … put up great numbers … Giants don’t win the Super Bowl … He gets blamed.

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]]> By: mrf47 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27705 mrf47 Sun, 11 May 2008 23:14:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27705 If Shockey has been humbled by the Giants' Super Bowl win, then he is worth keeping as he's a great weapon. If there is even the slightest bit of a hint that he's going to be a problem, he needs to go. If Shockey has been humbled by the Giants’ Super Bowl win, then he is worth keeping as he’s a great weapon. If there is even the slightest bit of a hint that he’s going to be a problem, he needs to go.

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]]> By: Super Florio http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27703 Super Florio Sun, 11 May 2008 23:12:40 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27703 He's No Cooley Clap Clap Clapclapclap! He’s No Cooley Clap Clap Clapclapclap!

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]]> By: Referee http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27687 Referee Sun, 11 May 2008 22:21:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27687 The shock treatment has worn thin... He is not the consummate team player as he showed while injured. I was embarrassed watching him pound down a few during the playoff run. The Shockey era in NYC has passed. Get whatever you can for him and move on. The shock treatment has worn thin… He is not the consummate team player as he showed while injured. I was embarrassed watching him pound down a few during the playoff run. The Shockey era in NYC has passed. Get whatever you can for him and move on.

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]]> By: Mattmanus http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27681 Mattmanus Sun, 11 May 2008 21:52:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27681 I would like to see him go at this point, but if he doesn't it will be interesting to see if now that Eli has tasted success if he will take control & tell Shockey it is his (Eli's) offense. Hmmmmm I would like to see him go at this point, but if he doesn’t it will be interesting to see if now that Eli has tasted success if he will take control & tell Shockey it is his (Eli’s) offense. Hmmmmm

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]]> By: enigk http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27679 enigk Sun, 11 May 2008 21:50:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27679 O-ver-rate-ed! *Clap clap clapclapclap* O-ver-rate-ed! *Clap clap clapclapclap* O-ver-rate-ed! *Clap clap clapclapclap* O-ver-rate-ed! *Clap clap clapclapclap*

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]]> By: renaissancemanrt http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27674 renaissancemanrt Sun, 11 May 2008 21:41:38 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27674 I hate all the "There have been rumors Shockey is unhappy his team won the SB without him"... That's crap. I've joked about it before I 'heard' the rumors, so it's just a bunch of people, either fans, or in the media, that have created this perception, and are trying to twist the whole thing around. I hate all the “There have been rumors Shockey is unhappy his team won the SB without him”… That’s crap. I’ve joked about it before I ‘heard’ the rumors, so it’s just a bunch of people, either fans, or in the media, that have created this perception, and are trying to twist the whole thing around.

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]]> By: AngelaF http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27663 AngelaF Sun, 11 May 2008 20:34:54 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27663 I think it's obvious after the Giants' late season showing and playoff run that the team is much better off without him. The fact that they haven't unloaded him yet surprises me. I think it’s obvious after the Giants’ late season showing and playoff run that the team is much better off without him. The fact that they haven’t unloaded him yet surprises me.

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]]> By: bradtor777 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27656 bradtor777 Sun, 11 May 2008 20:02:34 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/11/does-shockey-want-to-stay-in-new-york/#comment-27656 The fact is, the Giants were better without Shockey. Just look at how Eli Manning came into his own after Shockey was sidelined by injury. It was a night-and-day reversal of form, and it's nearly impossible not to think that Shockey, who tends to demand a lot of attention from coaches and colleagues alike, wasn't a factor. For more than one reason, the Giants should look at facilitating a trade for this disgruntled player. The fact is, the Giants were better without Shockey. Just look at how Eli Manning came into his own after Shockey was sidelined by injury. It was a night-and-day reversal of form, and it’s nearly impossible not to think that Shockey, who tends to demand a lot of attention from coaches and colleagues alike, wasn’t a factor.

For more than one reason, the Giants should look at facilitating a trade for this disgruntled player.

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