As rumors still circulate regarding the Cowboys’ potential interest in Lions receiver Roy Williams, there’s a chance that, if they land him via trade, they won’t need to add his middle initial to the back of his jersey.
The other Roy Williams, the one who plays safety for the Cowboys, could be on the outs in Dallas.
During a Thursday appearance on Sirius NFL Radio (via the Dallas Morning News), Cowboys defensive end Greg Ellis said that Williams doesn’t fit within the defensive scheme employed by coach Wade Phillips.
Ellis claims that Williams first raised his concerns during training camp last season. “He said, ‘Greg, this defense does not fit me. I don’t fit in well with this defense at all. So when he told me that, I was like, ‘Well, man, it’s still new. Get used to it and it’ll probably be fine for you.’ And obviously I think it came to be true. Just like he said, he doesn’t fit what’s going on here in Dallas right now.
“Now maybe this year, if they decide to keep him for this season, Wade and them will kind of adjust some things to fit him better.”
It’s highly unlikely that the Cowboys would simply cut him. After June 1, any trade of Williams could divide the cap acceleration over two seasons, reducing the current year’s cap hit but pushing plenty of dead money into 2009.
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May 9th, 2008 at 8:29 am
I highly doubt that the Cowboy’s would get rid of one of their perenial pro-bowlers and fan fav’s because he doesn’t fit Wade’s scheme. Wade will be gone in either this season or next anyway.
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May 9th, 2008 at 8:30 am
He never was a “good” cover guy, and now since tackling is no longer allowed in “tackle” football, he may be on a short leash. I still believe he could be a decent OLB if he put on 20 lbs.
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May 9th, 2008 at 8:31 am
I never thought Roy fit anywhere. He is not very good. Just a hard hitter.
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May 9th, 2008 at 8:33 am
Any one who has seen him try to cover knows Williams doesn’t with any defense
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May 9th, 2008 at 8:34 am
Roy Williams couldn’t cover my grandmother…though he could hit her. What an overrated player…the Jeremy Shockey of Safeties.
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May 9th, 2008 at 8:35 am
Yeah, any defense that requires a safety run at a pace faster than a jog and demands that safeties wrap up when tackling won’t fit Roy “overrated” Williams. That guy might be the most overrated player in the NFL.
Any safety that needs to COME OUT on third down because he can’t cover a TE should be selling insurance.
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May 9th, 2008 at 8:35 am
Guess he’s getting sensitive to the bloggers lambasting his performance.
Dallas won’t cut him, if anything they’d trade him, but I suspect that won’t come til next year. Dallas would be a tad short on Safeties if they simply let him go.
Sorry, but Dallas DID change things up for Williams. He played closer to the line and they tried to keep him from having single coverage responsibility (not that offenses ran plays specifically to get him into single coverage) and to let him use his ‘human missile’ tackling techniques, but he still was a non-factor pretty much.
Hopefully Campo can help him improve his coverage skills and I hear he has lost 10-15 lbs in an effort to gain some speed.
I think having a better 3rd corner will help him a lot as well.
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May 9th, 2008 at 8:38 am
O.K., why not include Roy Williams as part of a package offer for Roy Williams???
Hopefully Matt Millen won’t be too confused …..
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May 9th, 2008 at 8:45 am
Is Dallas really any worse without the most overrated player in the league? He can’t cover the deep ball and has to rely on the horse collar so often b/c of his poor angles to the ball carrier. The guys reputation is based on some nice highlight material hits he had early in his career.
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May 9th, 2008 at 8:46 am
I’d like to see that SOB turned into a receiver and horse collared a few times.
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May 9th, 2008 at 9:02 am
YYYYYYEEEEEESSSSS!!!!!! Please please please please let Biscuit go Wade!
JayPhilly said it best - he is the Jeremy Shockey of safeties. He needs to lose 20 pounds to become an average coverage guy or gain 20 and become an OLB. Of course, the Cowboys could improve their seconday if they lost 230 pounds of overrated safety.
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May 9th, 2008 at 9:10 am
I don’t think Dallas has the depth at safety to cut Williams this year, especially considering the possibility that Ken Hamlin very likely could be gone next year. You can’t be a DB in the NFL if you lack confidence, and it’s easy to see from recent interviews that Roy has none. This is a guy that used to be one of the most feared players in the league for his bone crunching hits, and now he lacks the ability to wrap someone up and bring them down. He just doesn’t seem to play with passion anymore, and I can’t imagine the guy having much trade value, in spite of the fact that he’s a perennial Pro Bowler. Other teams are quite aware of the fact that he’s a coverage liability. It’s starting to seem like a lot of these big hitting safeties that can’t cover are having shorter life spans in the league (see Adam Archuleta). I think for at least the next couple years, Dallas is just going to have to deal with him and his inflated contract.
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May 9th, 2008 at 9:13 am
You know what Greg Ellis just did to Roy Williams?
Well, this fine child, who I am sure will grow up to be a lovely lady, explains it best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAYWPV3F41Y&feature=related
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May 9th, 2008 at 9:29 am
Brian - thanks for the laugh!
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May 9th, 2008 at 9:48 am
I think ever since they outlawed his signature move (”Oh my god, Roy Williams is about to finish him off! The crowd knows it’s coming, the players know it’s coming, my God, ladies and gentlemen, the whole world knows it’s coming!! It’s…it’s…THE HORSE COLLAR!!!”) he just doesn’t find football as enjoyable, maybe. I mean, what’s more fun than having a guy run by you, then gripping the inside of his shoulder pads, yelling “GET OVER HERE!!!” while you hear the snapping of bones and the popping of joints?
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May 9th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Hilarious. He led the team in solo tackles last year, but he “can’t tackle”. Can’t cover, but he’s got more INTs (19) than Dawkins had at this point in his career (18) and the same number of returns for TDs as Dawkins has had his ENTIRE career (3), in spite of Dawkins being a free safety that is *supposed* to be faster and better in coverage.
Not that I think that Williams excels in coverage, in fact I think it’s the weakest part of his game, but he’s not nearly as bad as the media makes him out to be. Parcells said that Williams spends a lot of time covering the mistakes of others and many of the times when it LOOKS like he’s getting burned, he’s just running into somebody else’s zone late in the play. Cowlishaw has stated that the NFL research
firm that he trusts the most insists that Williams is actually pretty good in coverage. Lastly, nobody makes the Pro Bowl on fan vote alone. Williams has been there for 5 years in a row because his peers know how good he is.
Sorry guys, but I’ll side with the experts on this one.
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May 9th, 2008 at 9:50 am
Overrated!
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May 9th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Poor Roy. Wade’s new system does not have a horse collar technique in it. What to do??
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May 9th, 2008 at 10:01 am
Vox - Until I got the same answer out of my bro-in-law (huge Cowboys fan) I thought Roy was THE most overrated guy in the league…until you look at his game as 50% his own and 50% covering up someone elses mistakes he’ll get the same treatment from the fans as he got in this forum…We’ll trade Ced Benson for him here in Chicago!!! We need some safety help…!!!
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May 9th, 2008 at 10:03 am
Is’nt Roy married to one of the Diva’s from Destiny’s Child?
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May 9th, 2008 at 10:11 am
That “horse collar” crap, is just that….CRAP! This is TACKLE football, not flag football, not arean football where you can push someone into a wall. T-A-C-K-L-E F-O-O-T-B-A-L-L…for men.
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May 9th, 2008 at 10:11 am
Whatever…i’ll take him on the bears,he’s way better than archuleta ever was
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May 9th, 2008 at 10:33 am
Dallas has the safety depth for a trade, they’d just move Hamlin down to SS and have Pat Watkins play FS, where he’s shown some promise. As far as Williams being a liability in coverage, word has it that a lot of that is Parcells’ fault. Eroded Williams’ instinct, much like he did Julius Jones’. Think it’s any coincidence that 3 years into Parcells’ tenure neither player could play a lick when both looked very promising as rookies? That being said, I saw Williams get blown out of the whole a few too many times playing the run to have any real confidence in him.
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May 9th, 2008 at 10:34 am
That being said, in Madden 08 fantasy drafts, I would always draft him and Sean Taylor for their hitting.
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May 9th, 2008 at 10:58 am
There isn’t a chance in hell the Cowgirls get rid of him. He’s a good player. I heard the interview and it sounds like Roy is just keeping to himself…big deal. He’s working out at 5-7:30 am and leaving when others are getting in. Big deal….Elis made it out to be that Roy was isolating himself…I wasn’t buying it.
Elis just lost any friend in Roy he could or would have had after that interview. Insert foot into mouth
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