Comments on: HIGH PRICES FOR BILLS TICKETS IN TORONTO http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:11:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: thejedi http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26691 thejedi Fri, 09 May 2008 11:37:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26691 Firstly, you are wrong when you say that Bills and Argo season ticket holders have first dibs. I am a season ticket holder and live in Toronto and haven't been invited to the table. It is the season holders that have Argo seats have first dibs only! Firstly, you are wrong when you say that Bills and Argo season ticket holders have first dibs. I am a season ticket holder and live in Toronto and haven’t been invited to the table. It is the season holders that have Argo seats have first dibs only!

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]]> By: joetoronto http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26598 joetoronto Fri, 09 May 2008 01:14:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26598 To the imbecile that basically said the "smarter fans pay 1/4 of the price the Toronto fans pay", you are the perfect example of a small minded person. Completely ignorant yet always ready to talk, you can't even understand something as simple as "supply and demand". Aye carumba. To the imbecile that basically said the “smarter fans pay 1/4 of the price the Toronto fans pay”, you are the perfect example of a small minded person.

Completely ignorant yet always ready to talk, you can’t even understand something as simple as “supply and demand”.

Aye carumba.

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]]> By: ericpburt http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26546 ericpburt Fri, 09 May 2008 00:18:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26546 ...And for the person who said our games are boring, did you see our games last year? The monday night game alone would show that we arent boring. We had at least 5 games on NFL Replay last year becuase they were not boring! …And for the person who said our games are boring, did you see our games last year? The monday night game alone would show that we arent boring. We had at least 5 games on NFL Replay last year becuase they were not boring!

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]]> By: ericpburt http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26545 ericpburt Fri, 09 May 2008 00:16:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26545 If i can say one thing, is that this whole situation could only happen in Buffalo. We (Buffaloninans) arent known for having good luck. Theres the whole "wide right" thing, the 4 total super bowl losses in a row, the "Music City Miracle", hockeys "No Goal" and various other things. The question "will the bills leave Buffalo" is one that we all worry about. It would be our luck if it happened, but we still support our team, and go about our lives, as tough as they may be with a smile. The Bills ARE Buffalo, so they may be doomed, but like us Buffalonians do, we will still keep up the hope in spite of the obvious signs, and then be very let down when it doesn't go our way. Then we'll grab a beer and sit down to enjoy our comfortable summers ;) If i can say one thing, is that this whole situation could only happen in Buffalo. We (Buffaloninans) arent known for having good luck. Theres the whole “wide right” thing, the 4 total super bowl losses in a row, the “Music City Miracle”, hockeys “No Goal” and various other things. The question “will the bills leave Buffalo” is one that we all worry about. It would be our luck if it happened, but we still support our team, and go about our lives, as tough as they may be with a smile. The Bills ARE Buffalo, so they may be doomed, but like us Buffalonians do, we will still keep up the hope in spite of the obvious signs, and then be very let down when it doesn’t go our way. Then we’ll grab a beer and sit down to enjoy our comfortable summers ;)

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]]> By: Sundayjack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26466 Sundayjack Thu, 08 May 2008 21:32:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26466 After all of his groaning after the last CBA negotiation, and then his whining to Chuck Schumer and whoever else would listen, I wonder if Ralph Wilson bristles at the idea that all this income does is cut down his share of NFL owner welfare. On the flip side, it's also probably just enough to keep Jonathan Kraft from visiting his office with a clipboard and a list of suggestions on how to increase his formerly-unshared income. Or, perhaps that's where this idea came from in the first place. So, perhaps we'll next be seeing Canadian Tire Stadium at Orchard Park selling poutine and crispy fatback at halftime. After all of his groaning after the last CBA negotiation, and then his whining to Chuck Schumer and whoever else would listen, I wonder if Ralph Wilson bristles at the idea that all this income does is cut down his share of NFL owner welfare.

On the flip side, it’s also probably just enough to keep Jonathan Kraft from visiting his office with a clipboard and a list of suggestions on how to increase his formerly-unshared income. Or, perhaps that’s where this idea came from in the first place. So, perhaps we’ll next be seeing Canadian Tire Stadium at Orchard Park selling poutine and crispy fatback at halftime.

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]]> By: MontrealBronco http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26460 MontrealBronco Thu, 08 May 2008 21:18:21 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26460 I am one of the 100,000 people that registered for these Tix......trust me, no way in hell am I paying that much!! I went to a Denver game for less than $50 a ticket. Anything Rogers gets his filthy paws on ROTS......GoodLuck Ralph....this time you picked the wrong partner I am one of the 100,000 people that registered for these Tix……trust me, no way in hell am I paying that much!! I went to a Denver game for less than $50 a ticket. Anything Rogers gets his filthy paws on ROTS……GoodLuck Ralph….this time you picked the wrong partner

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]]> By: dirtyharry http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26448 dirtyharry Thu, 08 May 2008 20:51:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26448 In the end, the best seats for these games will be the free seats. You know, the seats in front of the TV. In the end, the best seats for these games will be the free seats. You know, the seats in front of the TV.

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]]> By: Kotite http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26442 Kotite Thu, 08 May 2008 20:42:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26442 Jacksonville grew by 7000 people in the first quarter of 2008 (despite a poor market), was recently rated #3 in respect to emerging IT markets by Forbes magazine and will soon be recognized as the third largest port on the eastern seaboard behind NYC and Newport News. Yeah, they've had some struggles selling out the stadium (partly because many people who live there also have season tickets to the Gators, Seminoles or Georgia Bulldogs), but Buffalo has been a shrinking market for at least a decade! Jags owner, Wayne Weaver, has deflected talk of selling the team year in and year out despite articles written to the contrary by douchebags like Michael Silver. Ralph Wilson was smart to make this move just like he was smart to vote "NO" on the recent CBA. Moving games to Toronto could be just what he needs to keep the team in Buffalo. But insinuating they are in better shape than Jacksonville is just not true. The Jags are entering their 14th season in Jacksonville. First generation Jags fans are just now becoming old enough to pay for their own tickets. I'm on record as saying "F" the bid to bring a team to LA because they have proven they cannot sustain a team despite having at least 8 million more citizens than markets like Green Bay, Buffalo, Jacksonville and Cincinnati. Ralph Wilson made this move out of utter desperation, but it will infuse new money into the franchise. It's a temporary fix though unless he agrees to play half his schedule in Toronto or someone strikes gold or oil in the greater Buffalo area. Jacksonville grew by 7000 people in the first quarter of 2008 (despite a poor market), was recently rated #3 in respect to emerging IT markets by Forbes magazine and will soon be recognized as the third largest port on the eastern seaboard behind NYC and Newport News. Yeah, they’ve had some struggles selling out the stadium (partly because many people who live there also have season tickets to the Gators, Seminoles or Georgia Bulldogs), but Buffalo has been a shrinking market for at least a decade! Jags owner, Wayne Weaver, has deflected talk of selling the team year in and year out despite articles written to the contrary by douchebags like Michael Silver. Ralph Wilson was smart to make this move just like he was smart to vote “NO” on the recent CBA. Moving games to Toronto could be just what he needs to keep the team in Buffalo. But insinuating they are in better shape than Jacksonville is just not true. The Jags are entering their 14th season in Jacksonville. First generation Jags fans are just now becoming old enough to pay for their own tickets. I’m on record as saying “F” the bid to bring a team to LA because they have proven they cannot sustain a team despite having at least 8 million more citizens than markets like Green Bay, Buffalo, Jacksonville and Cincinnati. Ralph Wilson made this move out of utter desperation, but it will infuse new money into the franchise. It’s a temporary fix though unless he agrees to play half his schedule in Toronto or someone strikes gold or oil in the greater Buffalo area.

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]]> By: beastmode http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26401 beastmode Thu, 08 May 2008 19:08:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26401 the thing is, making money in Toronto makes the Bills more viable in Buffalo. If they didn't have grander markets to tap, then the future of the franchise would be a lot more bleak. There are also a lot of people with a lot of money that don't want to see the team leave Buffalo. Also there is great resistance to having an NFL franchise in Canada on the part of Canadians who fear that it will ruin the CFL, which is in its own right a very successful football league. the thing is, making money in Toronto makes the Bills more viable in Buffalo. If they didn’t have grander markets to tap, then the future of the franchise would be a lot more bleak. There are also a lot of people with a lot of money that don’t want to see the team leave Buffalo. Also there is great resistance to having an NFL franchise in Canada on the part of Canadians who fear that it will ruin the CFL, which is in its own right a very successful football league.

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]]> By: dolphin fan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26399 dolphin fan Thu, 08 May 2008 19:02:50 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26399 So in Buffalo you can sit through 4 games for the same price as a Canadian sitting through 1 game. Who ultimately is the smarter fan? So in Buffalo you can sit through 4 games for the same price as a Canadian sitting through 1 game. Who ultimately is the smarter fan?

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]]> By: FloriosPhillyFan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26396 FloriosPhillyFan Thu, 08 May 2008 18:57:34 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26396 Why don't they just move the team and get it over with? Buffalos got their Sabres, they'll be fine. Why don’t they just move the team and get it over with? Buffalos got their Sabres, they’ll be fine.

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]]> By: alansaysyo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26393 alansaysyo Thu, 08 May 2008 18:56:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26393 Have I missed the outcry of Bills fans over losing a home game a year? Or was there never one to begin with? Have I missed the outcry of Bills fans over losing a home game a year? Or was there never one to begin with?

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]]> By: batboy1784 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26378 batboy1784 Thu, 08 May 2008 18:30:26 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26378 Uh....The current U.S. dollar buys 1.01 Canadian dollars. Canada is not Great Britain, this is simply gouging based on higher expected demand from Canadians who want to see football. Uh….The current U.S. dollar buys 1.01 Canadian dollars. Canada is not Great Britain, this is simply gouging based on higher expected demand from Canadians who want to see football.

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]]> By: hrudey http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26377 hrudey Thu, 08 May 2008 18:29:39 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26377 gibson: Or how about a team that has sold fewer tickets than the Jags consistently over the past four years, like maybe Dallas or Indy? Surely, if the Jaguars can't sell out legitimately, but still sell more tickets than those moribund franchises, maybe *THEY* should be the ones to move. gibson: Or how about a team that has sold fewer tickets than the Jags consistently over the past four years, like maybe Dallas or Indy? Surely, if the Jaguars can’t sell out legitimately, but still sell more tickets than those moribund franchises, maybe *THEY* should be the ones to move.

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]]> By: Lost http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26374 Lost Thu, 08 May 2008 18:26:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26374 Apparently Canadian bankers still have lots of cash leftover even after losing a couple of million to Michael Vick. Apparently Canadian bankers still have lots of cash leftover even after losing a couple of million to Michael Vick.

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]]> By: mikef76 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26371 mikef76 Thu, 08 May 2008 18:22:51 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26371 Take a look at we crazy Torontonians pay to watch the Maple Leafs. And they have a long, storied history of being terrible...and they play 40+ home games. Once you can appreciate that, you won't be thinking that the amount we'll pay for a handful of Bills games is that outrageous from our perspectives. If they ever move here, I expect we'll need a new stadium and any decrease in price from $250 will be offset by seat licence costs. Take a look at we crazy Torontonians pay to watch the Maple Leafs. And they have a long, storied history of being terrible…and they play 40+ home games.

Once you can appreciate that, you won’t be thinking that the amount we’ll pay for a handful of Bills games is that outrageous from our perspectives.

If they ever move here, I expect we’ll need a new stadium and any decrease in price from $250 will be offset by seat licence costs.

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26367 empty13 Thu, 08 May 2008 18:20:20 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26367 i live outside daytwa and have been to canuckistan, altho not recently. they have taxes like ours, except a little higher. then they have the VAT (value added tax). that will get you the difference. right now the $ and loonie are near par. i live outside daytwa and have been to canuckistan, altho not recently.

they have taxes like ours, except a little higher. then they have the VAT (value added tax).

that will get you the difference. right now the $ and loonie are near par.

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]]> By: No_Man http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26359 No_Man Thu, 08 May 2008 18:08:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26359 The Canadian dollar has been running within $.02-.03 of the US dollar for the past 6 months, and within $.10 for the past year. The difference is negligible. The Canadian dollar has been running within $.02-.03 of the US dollar for the past 6 months, and within $.10 for the past year. The difference is negligible.

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]]> By: brock29609 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26358 brock29609 Thu, 08 May 2008 18:07:31 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26358 This due to the US$ sucking wind. It's about the exchange rate, not gouging. This due to the US$ sucking wind. It’s about the exchange rate, not gouging.

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]]> By: gibsonplyer http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26354 gibsonplyer Thu, 08 May 2008 18:00:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26354 If the Bills can get people to pay for it than great. That means its far less likely for them to leave that area. Buffalo itself as I understand it is fairly depressed economically but they can play a few games there for prices appropriate for that area and make a ton of money just by traveling not so far away and keeping that home field advantage is the perfect situation. Let the Bills stay in that area. If LA wants a team let them have the Jags. They're a really good team but still can't sell out there games legitimately. If the Bills can get people to pay for it than great. That means its far less likely for them to leave that area. Buffalo itself as I understand it is fairly depressed economically but they can play a few games there for prices appropriate for that area and make a ton of money just by traveling not so far away and keeping that home field advantage is the perfect situation. Let the Bills stay in that area. If LA wants a team let them have the Jags. They’re a really good team but still can’t sell out there games legitimately.

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]]> By: stjj331011 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26353 stjj331011 Thu, 08 May 2008 17:59:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26353 I would like to know who this will affect the players tax situation? They will now need to file both a US and Canadian tax return and with Canada's universal healthcare.... i would assume their taxes income tax rate will be higher. I would like to know who this will affect the players tax situation? They will now need to file both a US and Canadian tax return and with Canada’s universal healthcare…. i would assume their taxes income tax rate will be higher.

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]]> By: Eustus http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26352 Eustus Thu, 08 May 2008 17:58:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26352 This sucks. This is going to drive ticket prices up for everyone else. Trust Ted Rogers to cut out the middle man and go ahead and charger scalper-prices for regular seats. Why would I pay $200 for a seat to watch a game in a stadium where tailgating is illegal? Dumb. This sucks. This is going to drive ticket prices up for everyone else. Trust Ted Rogers to cut out the middle man and go ahead and charger scalper-prices for regular seats.

Why would I pay $200 for a seat to watch a game in a stadium where tailgating is illegal?

Dumb.

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]]> By: Rob0769 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26347 Rob0769 Thu, 08 May 2008 17:53:28 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26347 When the Bills become the Toronto Bills in 2013, I don't think they will get that much per ticket with 10 home games. But I do think the average ticket price will be far higher than the lowest ticket price in the league like the Bills are. BTW, I give 2010 as the over/under for a formal announcement of the Bills moving permanently to Toronto and the building of a new stadium. When the Bills become the Toronto Bills in 2013, I don’t think they will get that much per ticket with 10 home games. But I do think the average ticket price will be far higher than the lowest ticket price in the league like the Bills are.

BTW, I give 2010 as the over/under for a formal announcement of the Bills moving permanently to Toronto and the building of a new stadium.

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]]> By: Chris from MD http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26346 Chris from MD Thu, 08 May 2008 17:51:31 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26346 I think we'll see a canadian NFL team sooner rather than later.. I think we’ll see a canadian NFL team sooner rather than later..

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]]> By: northeagle http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26342 northeagle Thu, 08 May 2008 17:43:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26342 It's the price we pay for our health care and social welfare systems - heavily taxed... It’s the price we pay for our health care and social welfare systems - heavily taxed…

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]]> By: joker http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26341 joker Thu, 08 May 2008 17:43:26 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26341 Thats a lot of money to pay to watch a really, really, really boring football team. Of course Toronto is a big city. Are these prices in line with the bigger cities like NY and Chicago? If so, I don't see anything wrong with those prices at all. Thats a lot of money to pay to watch a really, really, really boring football team. Of course Toronto is a big city. Are these prices in line with the bigger cities like NY and Chicago? If so, I don’t see anything wrong with those prices at all.

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]]> By: wvugrad00 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26339 wvugrad00 Thu, 08 May 2008 17:41:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26339 It appears they named their currency after the people, because they have to be looney to pay that kind of coin It appears they named their currency after the people, because they have to be looney to pay that kind of coin

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]]> By: meekdog78 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26335 meekdog78 Thu, 08 May 2008 17:30:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26335 Wow, everything costs more in Canada. I work in auto sales and recently priced out an American spec Eclipse for a customer in the $24,000 range. That same car in Canada is over $30,000. And I thought the Canadian Dollar actually passed the American Dollar in value recently...I could be wrong. Wow, everything costs more in Canada. I work in auto sales and recently priced out an American spec Eclipse for a customer in the $24,000 range. That same car in Canada is over $30,000. And I thought the Canadian Dollar actually passed the American Dollar in value recently…I could be wrong.

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]]> By: aVanderlay http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26333 aVanderlay Thu, 08 May 2008 17:29:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26333 Anyone who willingly pays that much money to go to a Bills game is a Canucklehead. Anyone who willingly pays that much money to go to a Bills game is a Canucklehead.

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]]> By: DozenDeuce http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26330 DozenDeuce Thu, 08 May 2008 17:24:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26330 Holy price-gouge batman! Holy price-gouge batman!

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]]> By: Dooger http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26328 Dooger Thu, 08 May 2008 17:22:28 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/08/high-prices-for-bills-tickets-in-toronto/#comment-26328 Before anyone points out that these prices are in Canadian dollars, it should be noted that the Canadian dollar is almost at par with the American dollar these days. Before anyone points out that these prices are in Canadian dollars, it should be noted that the Canadian dollar is almost at par with the American dollar these days.

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