Comments on: WALSH HAS NO WALK-THROUGH TAPE http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:46:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: CaptainFantastik http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26458 CaptainFantastik Thu, 08 May 2008 21:10:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26458 LOL at the Cheatriots apologists thinking they've somehow gotten the better of "the haters" on this. Classic. Guess what ladies......the entire world still knows the New England Patriots cheated for the entirety of their "dynasty". There is evidence on multiple tapes dating back to 2000. Thanks to Walsh and Arlen Spector, Goodell wasn't able to help your cheating scumbag franchise sweep it under the rug. You will never hear the end of it because people like me will never let you. There is AMPLE indisputable hard evidence the New England Cheatriots cheated for 6 years. There is ZERO evidence of any kind that anybody else has cheated. LOL!!!!! All you guys have are a few random comments by Jimmy Johnson (a real character guy huh?) in your corner. Cheatriots fans have absolutely nothing in their corner except a team full of cheaters and a tainted legacy to match. Have fun with that. 2000-2006 New England Cheatriots*** LOL at the Cheatriots apologists thinking they’ve somehow gotten the better of “the haters” on this. Classic. Guess what ladies……the entire world still knows the New England Patriots cheated for the entirety of their “dynasty”. There is evidence on multiple tapes dating back to 2000. Thanks to Walsh and Arlen Spector, Goodell wasn’t able to help your cheating scumbag franchise sweep it under the rug. You will never hear the end of it because people like me will never let you. There is AMPLE indisputable hard evidence the New England Cheatriots cheated for 6 years. There is ZERO evidence of any kind that anybody else has cheated. LOL!!!!! All you guys have are a few random comments by Jimmy Johnson (a real character guy huh?) in your corner. Cheatriots fans have absolutely nothing in their corner except a team full of cheaters and a tainted legacy to match. Have fun with that.

2000-2006 New England Cheatriots***

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]]> By: Fail Cat http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26437 Fail Cat Thu, 08 May 2008 20:33:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26437 Is there really... REALLY a surprise that a story written by a local joke of journalist printed in a tabloid newspaper that is the laughing stock of Boston that was never based on a shred of evidence, or was able to cite anything even close to a source turned out to be a load of crap? Were we REALLY expected to believe that somehow this major story slipped past the eyes of Mike Florio, ESPN, Peter Gammons, The Boston Globe, USA Today, any and every credible sports writing source all the way down to the beat reporter covering the Quincy High Presidents and somehow SOMEHOW this anonymous mystery source went to John Tomase. JOHN TOMASE, a fat slob with no football credentials, who'd obviously rather be writing copy for Entertainment Tonight. Am I really that stupid as to believe that JOHN TOMASE is that much further ahead of the game than the ENTIRE sports writing industry? The answer, gentlemen, is no. Is there really… REALLY a surprise that a story written by a local joke of journalist printed in a tabloid newspaper that is the laughing stock of Boston that was never based on a shred of evidence, or was able to cite anything even close to a source turned out to be a load of crap?

Were we REALLY expected to believe that somehow this major story slipped past the eyes of Mike Florio, ESPN, Peter Gammons, The Boston Globe, USA Today, any and every credible sports writing source all the way down to the beat reporter covering the Quincy High Presidents and somehow SOMEHOW this anonymous mystery source went to John Tomase. JOHN TOMASE, a fat slob with no football credentials, who’d obviously rather be writing copy for Entertainment Tonight. Am I really that stupid as to believe that JOHN TOMASE is that much further ahead of the game than the ENTIRE sports writing industry?

The answer, gentlemen, is no.

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]]> By: kayC http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26225 kayC Thu, 08 May 2008 15:30:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26225 "Wow - good comeback guys… I had forgotten the Patriots have the first undefeated season ever in the history of the NFL." Check ya' history, joe. “Wow - good comeback guys… I had forgotten the Patriots have the first undefeated season ever in the history of the NFL.”

Check ya’ history, joe.

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]]> By: Zombie Patriot http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26186 Zombie Patriot Thu, 08 May 2008 14:38:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26186 "The Bruins have no talent. They wont make the playoffs this year. Jeremy Jacobs - sell the damn team so I can root for the black and gold again. Hockey Talk - yay" Unless you are reffering to next season before the current one finishes... The Bruins did make the playoffs and they took the #1 seeded Canadians to the 07th game. It will be interesting to hear what comes out of Walsh's talk with the Commissioner. It seems to me that if he is known to embelish (the nice word for lie) then whatever he may have to say cannot be trusted. Still, I'm sure we'll more than likely hear more from people such as Specter who I believe has an axe to grind on behalf of a major donor to his campaigns (Comcast) and as a fan (The Eagles). I am quite certain that Specter will want to champion whatever Walsh has to say regardless of how outlandish it may be. I do not believe he is after the truth so much as job security. As someone who has worked in politics nothing helps re-election chances like getting behind an issue that the electorate is passionate about. As to those who are screaming cover-up... You have obviously already made up your mind and no matter what is said or done you will not be satisfied. Now if only some of you could be as passionate about an issue that really matters. Sure, as a fan I was disappointed in what occurred but I also have to put it into perspective... it is only a sport and life goes on. Sport will always have scandals of somesort and it will always have people wanting to put qualifiers (*'s) behind accomplishments. Put what you want where you want as for the most part it will eventually be forgotten as new champions are crowned and history marches on towards the next scandal. “The Bruins have no talent. They wont make the playoffs this year. Jeremy Jacobs - sell the damn team so I can root for the black and gold again. Hockey Talk - yay”

Unless you are reffering to next season before the current one finishes… The Bruins did make the playoffs and they took the #1 seeded Canadians to the 07th game.

It will be interesting to hear what comes out of Walsh’s talk with the Commissioner. It seems to me that if he is known to embelish (the nice word for lie) then whatever he may have to say cannot be trusted. Still, I’m sure we’ll more than likely hear more from people such as Specter who I believe has an axe to grind on behalf of a major donor to his campaigns (Comcast) and as a fan (The Eagles). I am quite certain that Specter will want to champion whatever Walsh has to say regardless of how outlandish it may be. I do not believe he is after the truth so much as job security. As someone who has worked in politics nothing helps re-election chances like getting behind an issue that the electorate is passionate about.

As to those who are screaming cover-up… You have obviously already made up your mind and no matter what is said or done you will not be satisfied. Now if only some of you could be as passionate about an issue that really matters. Sure, as a fan I was disappointed in what occurred but I also have to put it into perspective… it is only a sport and life goes on. Sport will always have scandals of somesort and it will always have people wanting to put qualifiers (*’s) behind accomplishments. Put what you want where you want as for the most part it will eventually be forgotten as new champions are crowned and history marches on towards the next scandal.

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]]> By: Tecumseh http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26158 Tecumseh Thu, 08 May 2008 14:02:06 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26158 I have breaking news. The source for original story was actually an associate of Tom Coughlin's. The story was a deliberate attempt to rattle the Patriots just before the Super Bowl, which actually caused Brady's ankle to swell up as a result of the mental stress. The Giants organization as a whole is responsible for this act, and I have proof in the form of an audio-taped conversation, which my lawyer will not let me release. But, seriously, the Giants cheated, and I have proof that I won't show anyone. See how much fun it can be to just level baseless accusations? Wonder if I can get the Herald to run my story... I have breaking news.

The source for original story was actually an associate of Tom Coughlin’s. The story was a deliberate attempt to rattle the Patriots just before the Super Bowl, which actually caused Brady’s ankle to swell up as a result of the mental stress.

The Giants organization as a whole is responsible for this act, and I have proof in the form of an audio-taped conversation, which my lawyer will not let me release. But, seriously, the Giants cheated, and I have proof that I won’t show anyone.

See how much fun it can be to just level baseless accusations? Wonder if I can get the Herald to run my story…

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]]> By: Dan1919 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26094 Dan1919 Thu, 08 May 2008 12:20:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26094 The Bruins have no talent. They wont make the playoffs this year. Jeremy Jacobs - sell the damn team so I can root for the black and gold again. Hockey Talk - yay The Bruins have no talent. They wont make the playoffs this year. Jeremy Jacobs - sell the damn team so I can root for the black and gold again. Hockey Talk - yay

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]]> By: Debacled http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26093 Debacled Thu, 08 May 2008 12:19:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26093 wow. Patriots-haters pretending that no other teams tape signals are really showing that they know nothing about this sport. They are either casual fans who don't have a clue, or they hate the Pats so much that they will ignore all the other teams who have done the exact same thing. it's great to be hated by so many. That's what it's like when you are a dynasty. Maybe some of you brain surgeons should try watching more games and less ESPN. wow. Patriots-haters pretending that no other teams tape signals are really showing that they know nothing about this sport.

They are either casual fans who don’t have a clue, or they hate the Pats so much that they will ignore all the other teams who have done the exact same thing.

it’s great to be hated by so many. That’s what it’s like when you are a dynasty.

Maybe some of you brain surgeons should try watching more games and less ESPN.

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]]> By: VeggieBurgher http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26084 VeggieBurgher Thu, 08 May 2008 12:04:58 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26084 "and even the Bruins are coming along" Wow, self-delusion does run high in New England. “and even the Bruins are coming along”

Wow, self-delusion does run high in New England.

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]]> By: Rob0769 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26083 Rob0769 Thu, 08 May 2008 12:02:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26083 I love how people say Patriots fans aren't rational while they were the only ones who didn't buy into the media's shoddy journalism of turning a speculation that Matt Walsh taped the Rams' walkthrough into a fact. Never once did Walsh say he had a Rams walkthrough tape or even hint that he did, but Patriots haters claimed as almost fact that he would turn over this mythical tape. In fact, some Patriots haters believed that Walsh would open himself up to potential felony prosecution by turning over audio tapes recorded illegally by Walsh. Now that this is pretty much over and the league has said as much, Patriots haters are talking about cover up and other X-Files type activities. Apparently, Goodell had Walsh send the tape of the walkthrough to Roswell, NM to hide with the aliens. And you think the Patriots aren't rational? I love how people say Patriots fans aren’t rational while they were the only ones who didn’t buy into the media’s shoddy journalism of turning a speculation that Matt Walsh taped the Rams’ walkthrough into a fact. Never once did Walsh say he had a Rams walkthrough tape or even hint that he did, but Patriots haters claimed as almost fact that he would turn over this mythical tape. In fact, some Patriots haters believed that Walsh would open himself up to potential felony prosecution by turning over audio tapes recorded illegally by Walsh.

Now that this is pretty much over and the league has said as much, Patriots haters are talking about cover up and other X-Files type activities. Apparently, Goodell had Walsh send the tape of the walkthrough to Roswell, NM to hide with the aliens.

And you think the Patriots aren’t rational?

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]]> By: VeggieBurgher http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26080 VeggieBurgher Thu, 08 May 2008 12:01:34 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26080 Wow, remarkable how many people on both sides jump to extremes. Here are the facts: (1) NE has admitted that it taped signals from the very beginning of BB's tenure. Many years of taping many teams and many coaches. This has the benefit both of potential in-game use and of developing a file on opposing coaches for future use. (2) The taping included offensive and defensive signals (apparently until offensive signals were done through the headset). (3) The taping included highly critical games, including the AFC Championship game. (4) No one tapes the other team just as a hobby. It is done precisely to gain a competitive advantage. Watching film is the lifeblood of the NFL and NE did this to get an unfair advantage. (5) The NFL has concluded that the Patriots violated the rules and gave them the harshest punishment ever handed out if I'm not mistaken. (6) Not a single one of you has ever talked to Walsh or has any clue what he's thinking. Stop acting like you know him and what he knows and why he's doing what he did. It's all speculation. (7) It's extremely common for people to want assurance that they won't be sued, and it's extremely common for lawyers to take a long time to iron this stuff out. (8) The fact that the Boston Herald was the only newspaper that found the Rams walkthrough story to be sufficient to print should call their journalistic integrity into question. Others in the media were aware of the basis for that story and concluded that it was insufficient to run the story. Wow, remarkable how many people on both sides jump to extremes. Here are the facts:

(1) NE has admitted that it taped signals from the very beginning of BB’s tenure. Many years of taping many teams and many coaches. This has the benefit both of potential in-game use and of developing a file on opposing coaches for future use.

(2) The taping included offensive and defensive signals (apparently until offensive signals were done through the headset).

(3) The taping included highly critical games, including the AFC Championship game.

(4) No one tapes the other team just as a hobby. It is done precisely to gain a competitive advantage. Watching film is the lifeblood of the NFL and NE did this to get an unfair advantage.

(5) The NFL has concluded that the Patriots violated the rules and gave them the harshest punishment ever handed out if I’m not mistaken.

(6) Not a single one of you has ever talked to Walsh or has any clue what he’s thinking. Stop acting like you know him and what he knows and why he’s doing what he did. It’s all speculation.

(7) It’s extremely common for people to want assurance that they won’t be sued, and it’s extremely common for lawyers to take a long time to iron this stuff out.

(8) The fact that the Boston Herald was the only newspaper that found the Rams walkthrough story to be sufficient to print should call their journalistic integrity into question. Others in the media were aware of the basis for that story and concluded that it was insufficient to run the story.

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]]> By: Pastabelly http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26079 Pastabelly Thu, 08 May 2008 12:01:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26079 I do believe that Walsh told Tomase he taped the Rams walkthrough. Walsh is a known fabricater. He had some tapes and blew his role out of proportion. Now Tomase and The Boston Herald will pay for this. You can bet that Mike Reiss and Tom Curran and others were fed the same BS by Walsh and only Tomase went for it. As for Walsh, the tapes were stolen property and that's why he was lawywered up. There are rumors out there that he stole many other things from the Patriots as he was being fired. I do believe that Walsh told Tomase he taped the Rams walkthrough. Walsh is a known fabricater. He had some tapes and blew his role out of proportion. Now Tomase and The Boston Herald will pay for this. You can bet that Mike Reiss and Tom Curran and others were fed the same BS by Walsh and only Tomase went for it. As for Walsh, the tapes were stolen property and that’s why he was lawywered up. There are rumors out there that he stole many other things from the Patriots as he was being fired.

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]]> By: markpmac http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26078 markpmac Thu, 08 May 2008 12:01:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26078 I hope people also realize that this backs up Belichick's statement that he never used tape in the same game. The fact that the tapes have signals spliced in with multiple angles of the play shows that it wasn't used in the same day. Oh, and buh-bye Tomase, you fat prick. I hope people also realize that this backs up Belichick’s statement that he never used tape in the same game. The fact that the tapes have signals spliced in with multiple angles of the play shows that it wasn’t used in the same day.

Oh, and buh-bye Tomase, you fat prick.

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]]> By: hamilton http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26071 hamilton Thu, 08 May 2008 11:49:19 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26071 So no surprises here, either in the story or these comments. One thing I am a little confused about - maybe Florio could you comment? If Walsh were indeed the source for the Herald article, then his lawyer would be out-and-out lying in his statement. I know he's not on the stand or in court or anything, but isn't there an ethical responsibility lawyers have as officers of the court in this sort of situation? What standard applies? Put me down as someone who also believes that until the clarifying memo of 2006 - which I absolutely admit was dead clear, "no videotaping of any kind" - Belichick's reasoning, while weak, appeared within the letter of the rules if not the spirit. Prior to issuance of that memo it does not seem explicit that you couldn't tape opponents and use the tape for later study (not in-game). Clearly it is (was) dodgy practice, but equally clearly it was common - as Jimmy Johnson's statements have already made clear. People need to understand that if the NFL is covering this up, it's not (just) to protect the Pats, but to protect the HUGE number of clubs that are doing similar shenanigans. So no surprises here, either in the story or these comments.

One thing I am a little confused about - maybe Florio could you comment? If Walsh were indeed the source for the Herald article, then his lawyer would be out-and-out lying in his statement. I know he’s not on the stand or in court or anything, but isn’t there an ethical responsibility lawyers have as officers of the court in this sort of situation? What standard applies?

Put me down as someone who also believes that until the clarifying memo of 2006 - which I absolutely admit was dead clear, “no videotaping of any kind” - Belichick’s reasoning, while weak, appeared within the letter of the rules if not the spirit. Prior to issuance of that memo it does not seem explicit that you couldn’t tape opponents and use the tape for later study (not in-game). Clearly it is (was) dodgy practice, but equally clearly it was common - as Jimmy Johnson’s statements have already made clear. People need to understand that if the NFL is covering this up, it’s not (just) to protect the Pats, but to protect the HUGE number of clubs that are doing similar shenanigans.

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]]> By: Dan1919 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26061 Dan1919 Thu, 08 May 2008 11:23:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26061 I used to be an ESPN insider. Gregg Easterbrook's idiot conspiracy articles made me quit and I refuse to ever buy another ESPN product. Dont forget him on your sh*t lists. This was a non story. The theory that Belichick should be suspended for a year or the Patriots be punished more was crazy. Jimmy Johnson admitted that he taped video signals. How come the Cowboys nor Johnson get any negative ink? Because its always been an accepted practice. I used to be an ESPN insider. Gregg Easterbrook’s idiot conspiracy articles made me quit and I refuse to ever buy another ESPN product. Dont forget him on your sh*t lists.

This was a non story. The theory that Belichick should be suspended for a year or the Patriots be punished more was crazy. Jimmy Johnson admitted that he taped video signals. How come the Cowboys nor Johnson get any negative ink? Because its always been an accepted practice.

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]]> By: LuvThatDirtyWatah http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26056 LuvThatDirtyWatah Thu, 08 May 2008 11:13:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26056 The anti-Pats sentiment comes from one place: NY Sports fans. Understandably so. The NE teams have taken their place as the best. Red Sox (yanks choke in '04 bigger than our SB loss), Pats (need we say more), Celtics and even the Bruins are coming along. NY fans are just jealous. Grow up NY and watch your Jets, Yanks, Mets, and Giants all tank this year. Loving it in NE. The anti-Pats sentiment comes from one place: NY Sports fans. Understandably so. The NE teams have taken their place as the best. Red Sox (yanks choke in ‘04 bigger than our SB loss), Pats (need we say more), Celtics and even the Bruins are coming along.

NY fans are just jealous. Grow up NY and watch your Jets, Yanks, Mets, and Giants all tank this year.

Loving it in NE.

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]]> By: LuvThatDirtyWatah http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26054 LuvThatDirtyWatah Thu, 08 May 2008 11:10:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26054 Great. Now can we all move on and watch my Pats dominate the league? Again. Great. Now can we all move on and watch my Pats dominate the league? Again.

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]]> By: Kotite http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26049 Kotite Thu, 08 May 2008 10:48:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26049 "Then why do I still feel dirty and ashamed?" ~Belichick's wallet “Then why do I still feel dirty and ashamed?” ~Belichick’s wallet

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]]> By: Samp7552 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26044 Samp7552 Thu, 08 May 2008 10:33:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26044 NR4, The biggest chokers of all-time would be the New York Yankees. I mean you remember 2004, you guys were up 3-0 (I assume you are a Yanks fan too) and then you lost 4 straight. Sure we went 18-1 and lost the SB to a LUCKY Eli Manning. Please give us more fuel for our fire. Who do you think Belichick learned it from? That's right the other Bill who gave him a job with those same Giants and whom he'd won SB's with. Did you forget the 17 games we won after the scandal, most in dominant fashion or the fact that we set NFL records post-"Spygate" with a great team. It's not like Tom Brady needed defensive signals to throw a fade to Randy Moss when he was double-covered. All you have to stand on is that we got caught fine, but to not acknowledge anything other than that is the sign of an ignorance. NR4,

The biggest chokers of all-time would be the New York Yankees. I mean you remember 2004, you guys were up 3-0 (I assume you are a Yanks fan too) and then you lost 4 straight. Sure we went 18-1 and lost the SB to a LUCKY Eli Manning. Please give us more fuel for our fire. Who do you think Belichick learned it from? That’s right the other Bill who gave him a job with those same Giants and whom he’d won SB’s with. Did you forget the 17 games we won after the scandal, most in dominant fashion or the fact that we set NFL records post-”Spygate” with a great team. It’s not like Tom Brady needed defensive signals to throw a fade to Randy Moss when he was double-covered. All you have to stand on is that we got caught fine, but to not acknowledge anything other than that is the sign of an ignorance.

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]]> By: subzero2401 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26039 subzero2401 Thu, 08 May 2008 10:12:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26039 To everyone except pats fans (who tend not to be rational), the legacy of Belichick and the pats is tainted. To everyone except pats fans (who tend not to be rational), the legacy of Belichick and the pats is tainted.

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]]> By: Superfan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26025 Superfan Thu, 08 May 2008 08:56:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26025 How long till Tomase is gone from the herald? It can not be long. How long till Tomase is gone from the herald? It can not be long.

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]]> By: Maverick http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26022 Maverick Thu, 08 May 2008 08:29:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26022 I think it speaks volumes on people who leave 3 sentence comments like 18-doh or I smell a conspiracy in regards to their ignorance level. I am new to this website, but many comments are comparable to MySpace's sports forums or equally as worse, ESPN's. I have been a huge fan or the Oakland Raiders since Bo Jackson's days of running over people in Tecmo Bowl and the media coverage of these 'tapings' is just downright silly. Goodell brought this upon himself with his 'harsh' punishments of players prior and the fact he had to act just as harsh when it came to coaching. This has dragged on far to long. I don't really care for the Patriots, especially after the HORRIBLE Tuck Rule garbage in the playoffs, but it really is not cheating when everyone else is doing the same thing. I am glad they were caught and not my team (obviously it doesn't help when you have allstars like Andrew Walters as your QB). I think extremists are ignorant, one way or the other. Instead of leaving 18-doh type comments, make a coherent statement or argument. It does add to the topic and really shows your age/maturity level. Matt Walsh is an idiot, if he had anything of value he would have come forward during the initial discovery. People that really thought he had something of value are naive. But people will always enjoy reasons to throw rocks at the team on top, regardless if they make any sense. I think it speaks volumes on people who leave 3 sentence comments like 18-doh or I smell a conspiracy in regards to their ignorance level. I am new to this website, but many comments are comparable to MySpace’s sports forums or equally as worse, ESPN’s. I have been a huge fan or the Oakland Raiders since Bo Jackson’s days of running over people in Tecmo Bowl and the media coverage of these ‘tapings’ is just downright silly. Goodell brought this upon himself with his ‘harsh’ punishments of players prior and the fact he had to act just as harsh when it came to coaching. This has dragged on far to long. I don’t really care for the Patriots, especially after the HORRIBLE Tuck Rule garbage in the playoffs, but it really is not cheating when everyone else is doing the same thing. I am glad they were caught and not my team (obviously it doesn’t help when you have allstars like Andrew Walters as your QB). I think extremists are ignorant, one way or the other. Instead of leaving 18-doh type comments, make a coherent statement or argument. It does add to the topic and really shows your age/maturity level. Matt Walsh is an idiot, if he had anything of value he would have come forward during the initial discovery. People that really thought he had something of value are naive. But people will always enjoy reasons to throw rocks at the team on top, regardless if they make any sense.

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]]> By: Favre2012 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26019 Favre2012 Thu, 08 May 2008 08:03:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26019 I still wish everyone who thinks this is cheating to explain to me how Jimmy Johnson was allowed to do it, and how everything in the history of the NFL that is now called "cheating" used to just be good stories of gamesmanship. Like Al Davis and his shenanigans, to name but one. For the last time, if the NFL cared about cheating, Favre and Strahan would have been punished for rigging the sack record. And they weren't. This is just jealousy of Belichick's greatness. I still wish everyone who thinks this is cheating to explain to me how Jimmy Johnson was allowed to do it, and how everything in the history of the NFL that is now called “cheating” used to just be good stories of gamesmanship. Like Al Davis and his shenanigans, to name but one.

For the last time, if the NFL cared about cheating, Favre and Strahan would have been punished for rigging the sack record. And they weren’t. This is just jealousy of Belichick’s greatness.

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]]> By: Henry Plainview http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26007 Henry Plainview Thu, 08 May 2008 06:27:06 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26007 stop making sense joesixpack stop making sense joesixpack

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]]> By: skaybaltimore http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26006 skaybaltimore Thu, 08 May 2008 06:26:38 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26006 Well, if Walsh isn't the source of the Boston Herald article, it certainly begs the question: "Who was?" It's also possible that Walsh has other new evidence that has nothing to do with the Rams/SB walk through, or whatever the Pats were already sanctioned for. However, my hunch is that this is going to end up being nothing more than a tempest in a teapot. Nothing really to see here, folks. Move along. LOL. Well, if Walsh isn’t the source of the Boston Herald article, it certainly begs the question: “Who was?”

It’s also possible that Walsh has other new evidence that has nothing to do with the Rams/SB walk through, or whatever the Pats were already sanctioned for. However, my hunch is that this is going to end up being nothing more than a tempest in a teapot. Nothing really to see here, folks. Move along. LOL.

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]]> By: Despacio http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26005 Despacio Thu, 08 May 2008 06:25:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26005 Poor Patriots fans. No matter how hard you front, the fact is Bill Bellicheat and the Patsy's have taint all over them. From South Park to Youtube comments, the Patriots as cheaters is an image and idea that has entered the public mindset. Matt Walsh was merely icing on the cake. The Patsy's have already been fined heavily for cheating, so no matter how hard you try Patsy fans, NFL fans will not forget that. Oh, and we also will not forget the biggest choke job in NFL history. 18-1, how sweet is that? Poor Patriots fans. No matter how hard you front, the fact is Bill Bellicheat and the Patsy’s have taint all over them. From South Park to Youtube comments, the Patriots as cheaters is an image and idea that has entered the public mindset.

Matt Walsh was merely icing on the cake. The Patsy’s have already been fined heavily for cheating, so no matter how hard you try Patsy fans, NFL fans will not forget that.

Oh, and we also will not forget the biggest choke job in NFL history. 18-1, how sweet is that?

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]]> By: Henry Plainview http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26001 Henry Plainview Thu, 08 May 2008 06:18:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-26001 STFU haters! STFU haters!

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]]> By: foyoluv http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25983 foyoluv Thu, 08 May 2008 05:33:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25983 The Times article quotes Walsh's lawyer saying that Walsh was never the source for that "walk-thru" story. The Herald also never claimed it was Walsh- everyone else just assumed it. Maybe Walsh was the source, and now is denying it (take your pick: liar or paid off), but isn't it just as likely that the Herald's anonymous source is someone else whose name they're protecting? Maybe because he or she still lives in Boston and fears reprisals from "fans" more rabid even than those who post here? The Times article quotes Walsh’s lawyer saying that Walsh was never the source for that “walk-thru” story. The Herald also never claimed it was Walsh- everyone else just assumed it. Maybe Walsh was the source, and now is denying it (take your pick: liar or paid off), but isn’t it just as likely that the Herald’s anonymous source is someone else whose name they’re protecting? Maybe because he or she still lives in Boston and fears reprisals from “fans” more rabid even than those who post here?

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]]> By: DanFoutsBeard http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25978 DanFoutsBeard Thu, 08 May 2008 05:26:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25978 Maybe there is really nothing new from Walsh. Maybe Goodell covered it up again. Who cares, the "dynasty" is still tainted Patriot F*ckers. And you know this, so don't act like this is some kind of moral victory. Maybe there is really nothing new from Walsh. Maybe Goodell covered it up again. Who cares, the “dynasty” is still tainted Patriot F*ckers. And you know this, so don’t act like this is some kind of moral victory.

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]]> By: cmay13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25968 cmay13 Thu, 08 May 2008 05:07:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25968 haha as south park said, when the pats tried for real, they lost. haha as south park said, when the pats tried for real, they lost.

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]]> By: paycents http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25963 paycents Thu, 08 May 2008 04:51:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25963 come on! he was just stalling immuntity for all these months to keep it in the news. while he was probably squeezing the pats for money in exchange for the tape. i mean a tape with a walk through could mean millions,keeping a coach from being suspended/banished, and the franchise image from being scared. anyone else think this or what? come on! he was just stalling immuntity for all these months to keep it in the news. while he was probably squeezing the pats for money in exchange for the tape. i mean a tape with a walk through could mean millions,keeping a coach from being suspended/banished, and the franchise image from being scared. anyone else think this or what?

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]]> By: spyboots http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25960 spyboots Thu, 08 May 2008 04:44:31 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25960 JoeSixPack - what some of you still don't get is this. It's like peeking at the other peoples' cards. The Pats didn't win on their own merits and by their own abilities, but by CHEATING! You "peeked." ****************** 18 games *** 3 SBs (cough) JoeSixPack - what some of you still don’t get is this. It’s like peeking at the other peoples’ cards. The Pats didn’t win on their own merits and by their own abilities, but by CHEATING! You “peeked.” ****************** 18 games *** 3 SBs (cough)

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]]> By: Dont Taze Me Bro http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25941 Dont Taze Me Bro Thu, 08 May 2008 04:18:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25941 Exonerated? That's a laugh. If DNA evidence proved Ted Bundy killed one fewer person than previously thought, would he be exonerated of being a murderer? Apparently he would be in Boston. Exonerated? That’s a laugh. If DNA evidence proved Ted Bundy killed one fewer person than previously thought, would he be exonerated of being a murderer? Apparently he would be in Boston.

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]]> By: JoeSixPack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25927 JoeSixPack Thu, 08 May 2008 04:05:10 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25927 Wow - good comeback guys... I had forgotten the Patriots have the first undefeated season ever in the history of the NFL. You forgot to mention that Brady has the all time QB TD record, as does Moss for a WR. We're all just going to have to live with that shame I guess. Are you guys serious or do you really think that's worse than being the 2007 Dolphins? And since when is losing the Super Bowl worse than say, the Yankees, being a few outs away from the World Series, becoming the first team to go from 3-0 in a series to lose 3-4? Bottom line - the reported degree of editing in the tapes confirm they were not a game day use tape, therefore they did not violate the rule. Not even Jets fans could assert that the Patriots could break a rule that didn't exist until 2006 (oh well, I guess they are.) Wow - good comeback guys… I had forgotten the Patriots have the first undefeated season ever in the history of the NFL. You forgot to mention that Brady has the all time QB TD record, as does Moss for a WR.

We’re all just going to have to live with that shame I guess.

Are you guys serious or do you really think that’s worse than being the 2007 Dolphins?

And since when is losing the Super Bowl worse than say, the Yankees, being a few outs away from the World Series, becoming the first team to go from 3-0 in a series to lose 3-4?

Bottom line - the reported degree of editing in the tapes confirm they were not a game day use tape, therefore they did not violate the rule. Not even Jets fans could assert that the Patriots could break a rule that didn’t exist until 2006 (oh well, I guess they are.)

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]]> By: LiveNBreath Football http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25925 LiveNBreath Football Thu, 08 May 2008 03:58:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25925 Yeah, that's right, the Pats cheated in the Super Bowl agains the Eagles by making McNabb throw up on the sidelines and be too weak to run a decent 2 minute offense. There is no conspiracy here. A disgruntled employee who has been exaggerating all his life ran his mouth once too often. Realizing he got in over his head, he dragged out the imdemnity (thanks for the correction) talks as long as he could. When he could no longer hide, he came up with what he could. Which was nothing. It's over, folks, move along. Nothing here to see. Yeah, that’s right, the Pats cheated in the Super Bowl agains the Eagles by making McNabb throw up on the sidelines and be too weak to run a decent 2 minute offense.

There is no conspiracy here. A disgruntled employee who has been exaggerating all his life ran his mouth once too often. Realizing he got in over his head, he dragged out the imdemnity (thanks for the correction) talks as long as he could. When he could no longer hide, he came up with what he could. Which was nothing. It’s over, folks, move along. Nothing here to see.

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]]> By: Rob0769 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25918 Rob0769 Thu, 08 May 2008 03:55:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25918 spyboots, I have never held my breath because I pretty much knew that there wasn't going to be anymore. Besides, Belichick probably didn't start to do this in 2000. He probably learned from Parcells who probably did it as far back as the Giants Super Bowl years. Which brings me to the point that if you believe the Pats were the only ones who were videotaping defensive signals, you are kidding yourself. Belichick didn't take the Patriots job and think to himself that it might be a good idea to videotape defensive signals. Jimmy Johnson said that he did with the Cowboys and Marty Schottenheimer did it with the Chiefs. I don't think everyone videotaped defensive signals, but I know the Pats weren't the only ones. As for the supposive cover up, with Arlen Specter threatening Senate hearings and meeting with Matt Walsh the same day as Goodell, it is silly to think that Goodell is going to risk Antitrust exemptions to do a cover up. spyboots,

I have never held my breath because I pretty much knew that there wasn’t going to be anymore.

Besides, Belichick probably didn’t start to do this in 2000. He probably learned from Parcells who probably did it as far back as the Giants Super Bowl years. Which brings me to the point that if you believe the Pats were the only ones who were videotaping defensive signals, you are kidding yourself. Belichick didn’t take the Patriots job and think to himself that it might be a good idea to videotape defensive signals. Jimmy Johnson said that he did with the Cowboys and Marty Schottenheimer did it with the Chiefs.

I don’t think everyone videotaped defensive signals, but I know the Pats weren’t the only ones.

As for the supposive cover up, with Arlen Specter threatening Senate hearings and meeting with Matt Walsh the same day as Goodell, it is silly to think that Goodell is going to risk Antitrust exemptions to do a cover up.

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]]> By: flpunter http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25917 flpunter Thu, 08 May 2008 03:54:54 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25917 Heck, when did the Patriots edit in the camera angles and split screens. half time? Real time. I am soo confused. Help spyboots. Gimme your take. Heck, when did the Patriots edit in the camera angles and split screens. half time? Real time. I am soo confused. Help spyboots. Gimme your take.

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]]> By: DarthJay http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25916 DarthJay Thu, 08 May 2008 03:54:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25916 I'm looking everywhere on the Herald's site for this story... but I can't seem to find it anywhere... not on the front page... not in the sports section... not even in the Patriots section. It's front page on Boston.com... what gives? They sure rushed to tell everyone about a Rams walk-through tape but they don't seem to be in any hurry to admit they were wr-wr-wrrrrong. I’m looking everywhere on the Herald’s site for this story… but I can’t seem to find it anywhere… not on the front page… not in the sports section… not even in the Patriots section. It’s front page on Boston.com… what gives? They sure rushed to tell everyone about a Rams walk-through tape but they don’t seem to be in any hurry to admit they were wr-wr-wrrrrong.

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]]> By: Kidekk http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25913 Kidekk Thu, 08 May 2008 03:52:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25913 I'm confused, how could there be a cover up if the guy wanted immunity? He would have nothing to hide, and Goddell was ready to punish the Pats even more. Why do people act as if the Patriots were the first team to ever cheat, and as if they are the only team that has ever done this? I'm not even a Pats fan, but it confuses me. I’m confused, how could there be a cover up if the guy wanted immunity? He would have nothing to hide, and Goddell was ready to punish the Pats even more. Why do people act as if the Patriots were the first team to ever cheat, and as if they are the only team that has ever done this? I’m not even a Pats fan, but it confuses me.

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]]> By: NR4 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25886 NR4 Thu, 08 May 2008 03:03:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25886 18-d'oh Cheatriots. Biggest chokers of all time. They obviously couldn't handle the pressure of being the fakes they are. In the interest of the greater good, the tapes vanished faster than you could say; "Tapegate". 18-d’oh Cheatriots.

Biggest chokers of all time. They obviously couldn’t handle the pressure of being the fakes they are. In the interest of the greater good, the tapes vanished faster than you could say; “Tapegate”.

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]]> By: JoeSixPack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25883 JoeSixPack Thu, 08 May 2008 02:57:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25883 So, correct me if I'm wrong, but how is Goodell supposed to punish the Patriots for violating a rule in 2002 that didn't exist until 2006 when he declared ALL sideline taping a rule violation... not solely tapes used during the game itself, as the rule originally said. So, correct me if I’m wrong, but how is Goodell supposed to punish the Patriots for violating a rule in 2002 that didn’t exist until 2006 when he declared ALL sideline taping a rule violation… not solely tapes used during the game itself, as the rule originally said.

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]]> By: spyboots http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25879 spyboots Thu, 08 May 2008 02:53:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25879 And Robo769, it is not a "theory," as it's already been PROVEN that the Pats have cheated (since 2000). Pat fans have been holding their breath that no more new evidence surfaces. (This includes my good friend, who I've known for years, and is a professional cook. In fact, we used to work together. Yes, he was sweating it, and he's actually a bit ashamed, though it's not his fault, and we all have our team allegiances.) But Theory? No, fact. We'll probably never get all the evidence. But the world KNOWS. And Robo769, it is not a “theory,” as it’s already been PROVEN that the Pats have cheated (since 2000). Pat fans have been holding their breath that no more new evidence surfaces. (This includes my good friend, who I’ve known for years, and is a professional cook. In fact, we used to work together. Yes, he was sweating it, and he’s actually a bit ashamed, though it’s not his fault, and we all have our team allegiances.) But Theory? No, fact. We’ll probably never get all the evidence. But the world KNOWS.

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]]> By: subzero2401 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25878 subzero2401 Thu, 08 May 2008 02:50:51 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25878 I've never been much of a conspiracy theorist, but something isn't right here. Something is definitely suspicious about this...but it would be so much more convenient for the league and its image if this finally just went away. I'm telling you people...there's more to this story. I’ve never been much of a conspiracy theorist, but something isn’t right here. Something is definitely suspicious about this…but it would be so much more convenient for the league and its image if this finally just went away.

I’m telling you people…there’s more to this story.

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]]> By: Da Oracle http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25877 Da Oracle Thu, 08 May 2008 02:48:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25877 The reason for the indemnity is now clear. Walsh taped the walk-through, but he has no proof, just his word against theirs. Goodell reportedly destroyed the evidence before deciding on the punishment, so it's clear that Goodell will do anything to protect the image of the NFL. If Goodell gives NE a "clean bill of health", I ain't buying one word. If Arlen Specter gives NE a "clean bill of health", I'll accept that. The reason for the indemnity is now clear. Walsh taped the walk-through, but he has no proof, just his word against theirs. Goodell reportedly destroyed the evidence before deciding on the punishment, so it’s clear that Goodell will do anything to protect the image of the NFL. If Goodell gives NE a “clean bill of health”, I ain’t buying one word. If Arlen Specter gives NE a “clean bill of health”, I’ll accept that.

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]]> By: Shackman http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25874 Shackman Thu, 08 May 2008 02:42:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25874 I too, think that the Pats will be exonerated after Walsh's meeting with the commish. What a little weasel this guy was. Maybe he didn't have the St. Louis walk through tape, but he never went out of his way to deny that he didn't either. It's no small wonder he was holding out for complete imdemnity, because he knew if he didn't produce the tape he was going to get his skanky ass sued off. Btw, I think I might have spotted a Deadspin.com regular or two in the comments here. Not that it makes any difference whatsoever. Keep me laughing guys. I too, think that the Pats will be exonerated after Walsh’s meeting with the commish. What a little weasel this guy was. Maybe he didn’t have the St. Louis walk through tape, but he never went out of his way to deny that he didn’t either. It’s no small wonder he was holding out for complete imdemnity, because he knew if he didn’t produce the tape he was going to get his skanky ass sued off.

Btw, I think I might have spotted a Deadspin.com regular or two in the comments here. Not that it makes any difference whatsoever. Keep me laughing guys.

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]]> By: Pats1 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25871 Pats1 Thu, 08 May 2008 02:41:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25871 Yes, the ANTI-PATRIOT HATE is quite apparent in those trying to move the goalposts now, just for they can hold onto the last vestiges of LIEgate. Yes, the ANTI-PATRIOT HATE is quite apparent in those trying to move the goalposts now, just for they can hold onto the last vestiges of LIEgate.

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]]> By: NR4 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25870 NR4 Thu, 08 May 2008 02:40:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25870 Pats: 18-d'oh. Go Giants. Patties fans egotistical bastards like their leader BB who thinks they're above the law. In fact BB and boys even had a private meeting at White House. ....As I said they are not above the law and ... one more reason to follow through on a cover up. "We here in NE are laughing at you LOSERS & your sorry teams!!!!" Pats, 18-d'oh, biggest chokers of all time! Baaawawwwaawawawaawawawawawaa. Pats: 18-d’oh.
Go Giants. Patties fans egotistical bastards like their leader BB who thinks they’re above the law. In fact BB and boys even had a private meeting at White House. ….As I said they are not above the law and …
one more reason to follow through on a cover up.
“We here in NE are laughing at you LOSERS & your sorry teams!!!!”

Pats, 18-d’oh, biggest chokers of all time!
Baaawawwwaawawawaawawawawawaa.

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]]> By: east96st http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25868 east96st Thu, 08 May 2008 02:38:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25868 Well, this started out boring, so it's kinda fitting that it ends up boring. Well, this started out boring, so it’s kinda fitting that it ends up boring.

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]]> By: spyboots http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25866 spyboots Thu, 08 May 2008 02:36:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25866 So the Pats fans think this means exoneration? That they didn't cheat? The Pats still cheated to get TO the SBs (and probably in them as well.) How many Eagles players said it seemed as if the Pats KNEW their plays. Pats fans are just blind. But I understand. I would be too if I were a Pats fan. Ya still cheated, and we'll probably never know the full depth. But WE know and you know, deep down, that your team cheated. So the Pats fans think this means exoneration? That they didn’t cheat? The Pats still cheated to get TO the SBs (and probably in them as well.) How many Eagles players said it seemed as if the Pats KNEW their plays. Pats fans are just blind. But I understand. I would be too if I were a Pats fan. Ya still cheated, and we’ll probably never know the full depth. But WE know and you know, deep down, that your team cheated.

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]]> By: JoeSixPack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25861 JoeSixPack Thu, 08 May 2008 02:33:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25861 What's more important than any tape, IMO, is who and why is someone paying Levy to represent Walsh to the tune of probably $500 an hour? If anyone in the "real" media does research they'll see that the Levy's former lawfirm has some direct ties to the lucrative Comcast lobby. And as we all know Comcast, the biggest benefactor of the only US Senator to literally attempt to "make this a federal case", has a pretty signficant beef with Goodell and the NFL. But of course very few are interested in more than the tip of the iceberg these days. What’s more important than any tape, IMO, is who and why is someone paying Levy to represent Walsh to the tune of probably $500 an hour?

If anyone in the “real” media does research they’ll see that the Levy’s former lawfirm has some direct ties to the lucrative Comcast lobby. And as we all know Comcast, the biggest benefactor of the only US Senator to literally attempt to “make this a federal case”, has a pretty signficant beef with Goodell and the NFL.

But of course very few are interested in more than the tip of the iceberg these days.

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]]> By: Rob0769 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25857 Rob0769 Thu, 08 May 2008 02:30:50 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/07/walsh-has-no-walk-through-tape/#comment-25857 Enough with the immunity already! It is indemnity! The way Walsh shot off his mouth to Mike Fish of ESPN was enough to make him want indemnity. Everyone is talking about the lawsuit against the Herald, but I think Kraft will sue ESPN too. Mike Fish in his article on Walsh admits he does not know what Walsh is saying is true. How can you print demafamtory information about the Patriots (in particular Ernie Adams) without verifying the source is saying is true and admit it in print. Ernie Adams and Kraft should have a pretty easy case against ESPN and Mike Fish. Enough with the immunity already! It is indemnity! The way Walsh shot off his mouth to Mike Fish of ESPN was enough to make him want indemnity. Everyone is talking about the lawsuit against the Herald, but I think Kraft will sue ESPN too.

Mike Fish in his article on Walsh admits he does not know what Walsh is saying is true. How can you print demafamtory information about the Patriots (in particular Ernie Adams) without verifying the source is saying is true and admit it in print. Ernie Adams and Kraft should have a pretty easy case against ESPN and Mike Fish.

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