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Some Internet hack who usually confines his hackery to the NFL has weighed in on the recent developments in the Roger Clemens saga.
The article is right here. The gist of it is that Clemens’ lawyer, Rusty Hardin, bears the brunt of the blame.
Sure, Clemens made the mess. But Hardin is the one who either didn’t properly advise Clemens as to the consequences that would arise from filing lawsuits and impugning the work of former Senators or didn’t persuade Clemens as to the importance of being honest with himself and with Hardin regarding the bones that might fly out of the closet once Clemens tried to portray himself publicly as a victim.
And if, in the end, Clemens knew damn well what the risks were and opted to proceed down a path of potential self-destruction, Hardin should have simply told him to get another lawyer.
We’ll now open the floor to PFT Planet for their thoughts on the situation.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:54 am
Clemens = Moron.
Why didn’t he just come out like Andy P and say “I did it for X years” or “to recover from an injury” and move on. It worked for his buddy.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 11:58 am
I have no thoughts. I’m just tired of reading and hearing about Clemens.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 11:58 am
As you sow, so shall you reap.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:03 pm
The one guy no one talks about anymore and the one guy who played this whole thing the right way is Jason Giambi. He came out right away, admitted to it, took his shots and now almost everyone in NY loves him again. Why have none of these idiots realized this was the best way to handle this…once they caught you, if you admitted to it, you gave them no headline fodder and no week long sagas on court TV…Clemens has brough this upo himself and this is not going away for a long time…
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Florio you ignorant slut
Roger Clemens obviously lied to Hardin and Hardin believed him. The Texas Con Man deserves everything he gets in this.
I am a Clemens defender on steroids. I dont care that he used them. Most of baseball did. All clemens had to do was do what Andy Pettite did, and everything would have been forgiven and forgotten.
Rogers Clemens meet Pete Rose. A little honesty and both men wouldn’t be where they are. They would be in the Hall of Fame.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:07 pm
I know you want (have?) to promote your own stuff, but I dislike seeing anything to do with baseball when I visit this site. I’m sure there are many others who feel the same way.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Clemens really just seems like an @$$hole that thinks he’s bullettproof. He’s getting exactly what he deserves. I think its 90% likely his lawyer advised him against suing, but this guy’s been loved for so long, he bought into the idea that his crap doesn’t stink.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:07 pm
You answered your own question with that…he is a moron that thought he was as unhitable off the field as he was on it. I feel for his wife and kids with all this crap coming out about him.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Pete Rose > Clemens.
Just sayin’
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:23 pm
I blame Clemens completely. I read Hardin’s bio on his web site, he has represented a number of famous athletes. I cannot imagine he did not completely vet Clemens about his past, and did not warn him what he would have to go through. I would be shocked if he didn’t, which leads me to assume Clemens had to have lied to Hardin and told him there isn’t anything in his past.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:24 pm
This is just another example of people in today’s society refusing to take responsibility for their actions. People are always looking to blame people for poor decisions instead of addressing the situation, admitting they were wrong, and moving forward. Instead, they let their ego’s get in the way, and rather than admit they are wrong people seem to think that if they move sideways enough, or ram the issue head on with enough force, they can circumvent the issue, and it will disappear. If Rogers had simply manned up, admitted he isn’t infallible like the rest of us, he wouldn’t be in this mess.
Aside from his choice of profession, what did the Lawyer do wrong? His job is to manage damage control to the best of his ability. By trade, good lawyers don’t take client cases based on morality and ethics, they take them on on how likely they are to win, and or how much money they are going to get paid. Expecting the Lawyer in this case to be ethical in this situation, is like expecting a politician to be honest, and follow through on all their campaign promises.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:25 pm
A Google search for “Roger Clemens” turns up that he played some game called baseball. What is this game of baseball you talk about?
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Elite athletes, like other celebritys seem to make up their own rules. Clemens thought he could do whatever he wanted and now its caught up with him. S*cks to be him.
I agree with Dooger though, lets keep this site to football only. I read PFT because its everything that ESPN isn’t (or was waaaaay back in the day).
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:27 pm
“Clemens got horrible advice” I could not agree more. Roger
Clemens should have stayed as far away from Congress as he
could. One does not need much foresight to figure this out.
Rusty was more concerned with providing money to the “Hardin
Trust Fund”. I hired an attorney for a house that I wanted
to buy from a builder. The builder wanted to not hold the
down payment in escrow. My attorney told me that if I wanted
to move forward with the purchase without my down payment
being held in escrow he would rufuse to represent me. That
is the kind of advice Hardin should have given to Clemens.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Clemens is simply a case study in those who have gotten away with murder their whole life with total disregard for every other person on earth (even the ones they supposedly love and are supposed to be protecting). You almost have to be in awe of the borderline psychotic level of arrogance he has to think he wouldn’t get caught and if he does, it’ll just bounce off of him. He’s the quintessential modern-day douche bag and if there is a karma train, I hope it runs right over his fat, balding ass with no mercy. Clemens, Bonds and Rose can start up their own Hall-Of-Douches.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:29 pm
I like your analysis, Florio. My guess is that Hardin bought Clemens’ story. I assume Hardin is of at least ordinary intelligence and I can’t see how any reasonable person would push such a brash strategy with such a shaky case.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Roger’s problem is that he deals out his loyalty the way he used to deal out balls and strikes, with no regard for the consequences. He trusted a lying trainer that sold him out to save his own hide, messed around with a washed up country singer who will ride his coat tails for an extra 5 minutes of fame, and now he is sticking with a lawyer that doesn’t seem to care for anything other than his own personal bank account. Wake up, Roger!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:32 pm
I believe Hardin gave Clemens proper advice, but Clemens in turn thought he could get away with anything, as he always has and ignored the advice. Point is Clemens is at fault. Period.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 pm
What the…I thought I was logged into ProFootballTalk.com…what the hell does this have to do with the reason why you, me, and the rest of the NFL Loving Community are reading this?
On that note…oh how the mighty has fallen. He’s getting what he deserves in the end.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:40 pm
NO BASEBALL!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I love watching that arrogant liar go from royalty to the gutter. Not only is he a liar and a cheat on the field, but he’s a liar and a cheat off the field as well. Boinking a 15 year old girl? He should be brought up on statutory rape charges. Then just yesterday it was reported on SI.com that he was also cheating on his wife wife John Daly’s ex-wife. I love this. Roger Clemens can’t even show his face in public anymore. And in the end that was all he really was protecting, his public image. His playing career was pretty much at the end so he wasn’t fighting to stay on the field. He just wanted to forever be “the rocket” and get seated right away at restaurants and be a celebrity. Now he’s ruined forever. Gotta love it!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Thug Life!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:45 pm
I hope he goes to jail for a decade. A decade is less time than he cheated, embezzled money by getting rediculious contracts while cheating, and ripped off the fans who bought his items.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Glad to see your grade 9 yearbook picture is still being put to use.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:49 pm
I would be surprised if his lawyer would have taken his case if he knew what he now knows of Clemens
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